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 Author: par016 View Messages Posted By par016
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 11:20
 Subject: Re: Category Changes, Part Two
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par016 (7662)

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

From the last thread on this. Some discrepancies and categories that don't
make much sense:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1228547

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1228637

-Pete
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 11:15
 Subject: Re: Category Changes, Part Two
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StormChaser (569)

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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Why is
[27928]
moved to plate, modified
and
[2401]
moved to plate, wedge?

Please see the definitions of those categories on this recently-updated page:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1568

  I think the wedge base should be the defining characteristic.

As always, if you or any other member want to offer suggestions for redefining
categories that are an improvement you're welcome to do so.

  There are other parts in the wedge, plate category that have modifications apart
from the wedge.

Right, and the list is not complete yet. It won't be complete until March
1st (and subject to review/approval during March).
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 11:09
 Subject: Re: Category Changes, Part Two
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StormChaser (569)

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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.

It is not possible to make everyone happy.

As I said here:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1246481

"Ideally, we would hold off on these changes until the inventory system was
corrected and we could move all figures to counterparts. But people have been
asking for these figures to be considered figures for years and years, so I don't
see that it would really hurt anything to do it now."


I get your objections and I agree with them, to some degree. The addition of
the additional Thomas the Tank figures was not part of msSquirrel's original
request.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 07:25
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yorbrick (1185)

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Similarly, nearly all the brickheadz are brick built characters

 
Set No: 41585  Name: Batman
* 
41585-1 (Inv) Batman
91 Parts, 2017
Sets: BrickHeadz: Super Heroes: The LEGO Batman Movie

so the relevant assemblies should be moved to minifigures.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 07:22
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yorbrick (1185)

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

Move to minifigure:

 
Part No: spa0009  Name: Sparkks - Set 70316
* 
spa0009 (Inv) Sparkks - Set 70316
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0010  Name: Groot - Set 76020
* 
spa0010 (Inv) Groot - Set 76020
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0011  Name: Ares - Set 76075
* 
spa0011 (Inv) Ares - Set 76075
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0012  Name: Giant-Man - Set 76051
* 
spa0012 (Inv) Giant-Man - Set 76051
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0013  Name: The Sentinel - Set 76022
* 
spa0013 (Inv) The Sentinel - Set 76022
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0015  Name: Sarlacc - Set 6210 - Brick Built
* 
spa0015 (Inv) Sarlacc - Set 6210 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0016  Name: Sarlacc - Set 9496 - Brick Built
* 
spa0016 (Inv) Sarlacc - Set 9496 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0017  Name: Sarlacc - Set 75174 - Brick Built
* 
spa0017 (Inv) Sarlacc - Set 75174 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0018  Name: DLC-13 Mining Droid - Set 9494
* 
spa0018 (Inv) DLC-13 Mining Droid - Set 9494
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0019  Name: Ent / Treebeard - Set 10237
* 
spa0019 (Inv) Ent / Treebeard - Set 10237
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0020  Name: Fenris Wolf - Set 76084 - Brick Built
* 
spa0020 (Inv) Fenris Wolf - Set 76084 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0021  Name: Abilisk - Set 76081 - Brick Built
* 
spa0021 (Inv) Abilisk - Set 76081 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0032  Name: Snow Monster, Frozen (Marshmallow) - Brick Built
* 
spa0032 (Inv) Snow Monster, Frozen (Marshmallow) - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0033  Name: Giant Stone Warrior - Set 70669
* 
spa0033 (Inv) Giant Stone Warrior - Set 70669
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0034  Name: Steppenwolf - Set 76087
* 
spa0034 (Inv) Steppenwolf - Set 76087
Parts: Special Assembly
 
Part No: spa0044  Name: Grawp - Set 75967 - Brick Built
* 
spa0044 (Inv) Grawp - Set 75967 - Brick Built
Parts: Special Assembly
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 06:51
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infinibrix (5003)

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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

 
Set No: 4530  Name: The Hulk
* 
4530-1 (Inv) The Hulk
39 Parts, 2012
Sets: Super Heroes: Buildable Figures: Avengers

The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.

Reading between the lines here I figure (no pun intended) that you don't
think the current system used by Bricklink to define what makes a minifigure
a minifigure makes a whole lot of sense? Well I don't disagree....

Personally I've always felt that a minifigure should only be defined as minifigure
if the build includes that all important standard Torso design:-

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1192759

It may not be the perfect solution but at least we would then have some kind
of guidelines to follow which will prevent any old buildable character (however
large) from being categoried alongside what most would consider an actual minifigure?
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 06:14
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Stellar (3505)

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

Why is

 
Part No: 27928  Name: Wedge, Plate 2 x 2 Pentagonal with Center Stud and 1 x 1/2 Raised Tab on Top
* 
27928 Wedge, Plate 2 x 2 Pentagonal with Center Stud and 1 x 1/2 Raised Tab on Top
Parts: Wedge, Plate

moved to plate, modified

and

 
Part No: 2401  Name: Wedge, Plate 10 x 10 with 4 x 4 Cutout and Cut Corner
* 
2401 Wedge, Plate 10 x 10 with 4 x 4 Cutout and Cut Corner
Parts: Wedge, Plate

moved to plate, wedge?

I think the wedge base should be the defining characteristic.

There are other parts in the wedge, plate category that have modifications apart
from the wedge.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 05:57
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

 
Set No: 4530  Name: The Hulk
* 
4530-1 (Inv) The Hulk
39 Parts, 2012
Sets: Super Heroes: Buildable Figures: Avengers

The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 12, 2021 05:51
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.

Now these are minifigures:
 
Minifig No: tms06  Name: Duplo Thomas
* 
tms06 (Inv) Duplo Thomas
Minifigures: DUPLO: DUPLO, Train: Thomas & Friends

Shouldn't these parts and similar

[p=52053]

be moved into a new category: Parts Duplo Minifigure Modified head


Or get rid of the minifigures category completely by renaming it, then have a
minifigures category inside that so that the word minifigures corresponds to
what LEGO and most LEGO fans call minifigures, figures assembled from minifigure
parts.
 Author: jedvii View Messages Posted By jedvii
 Posted: Feb 11, 2021 20:29
 Subject: Re: 6H or 6L
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I'm surprised you aren't calling it a Bar 4L with Stud holder on end.


In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
  Does that mean that others like this
 
Part No: 3957  Name: Antenna 4H - Round Top
* 
3957 Antenna 4H - Round Top
Parts: Antenna
to 4H?

Yes, I believe so.

It should at least by 1 x 1 x 4 - then the height would be implicit. I don't
think we have this option with the antenna in the OP since that doesn't have
a stud holder - it doesn't have a length and width, only a height.

I would be fine with doing it that way, also.

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