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 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, TBS writes:
  
Here is SOME more silly Lego-Colour-Names:

Sand Yellow/Dark Tan
Warm Gold/Pearl Gold
Bright Bluish Green/Dark Turquoise
Earth Blue/Dark Blue
Flame Yellowish Orange/Bright Light Orange
Bright Orange/Orange
Brick Yellow/Tan

When it comes to User-friendly, one should skip this idea already.

To understand user friendly you have to think like a newbie besides whilst you
may hate all those colour names at least they are official colour names

Dark Bluish Grey is certainly no better and yet its not even an official Lego
term?

I would'nt mind but I'm pretty much only talking about adjusting the
names of the greys not the entire colour pallete!

To your point, I do still consider myself a newbie. While I joined almost a
year ago, I'm still finding my way around here and getting familiar. That
being said, no matter if you set them to new, old, light, bright or bluish, there
is a learning curve for everyone. If you are getting into the hobby or shopping
for parts or just trying to off load your life's collection, any hobby will
have it's gotcha points. While these two colors may be the ones in question
now, the point of what to call them still would require significant work on both
maintenance and seller to adjust. Is there really that much of a need or more
of a convenience?
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
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In Suggestions, TBS writes:
  
Here is SOME more silly Lego-Colour-Names:

Sand Yellow/Dark Tan
Warm Gold/Pearl Gold
Bright Bluish Green/Dark Turquoise
Earth Blue/Dark Blue
Flame Yellowish Orange/Bright Light Orange
Bright Orange/Orange
Brick Yellow/Tan

When it comes to User-friendly, one should skip this idea already.

To understand user friendly you have to think like a newbie besides whilst you
may hate all those colour names at least they are official colour names

Dark Bluish Grey is certainly no better and yet its not even an official Lego
term?

I would'nt mind but I'm pretty much only talking about adjusting the
names of the greys not the entire colour pallete!
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
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In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  Please do not start changing the existing colour names.

I am not interested in whatever Lego officially calls colours. I just need to
know what Bricklink calls them, so that I can list parts for sale, and purchase
parts on Bricklink. I don't think I am unique in this matter.

As a person living with a form of colour blindness, let me tell you that all
the fancy names that colorists come up with do not help me at all. I just want
to know, "Is that thing basically blue? Or is it red?" Spare me the "August
Sunset", "Sea Foam" and "Dusty Rose" type of labels. What the heck is "azure"
anyway?

Are you sure your not living with regular blindness only if you read my original
post you'd realise that I'm talking about simplifying colour names not
fancying them up?


  The only reason to pursue congruence with Lego's system is to make things
simpler. I don't see much evidence that will be the result of tinkering around
with colour names we've all memorized over the past decade or so.

Please. Do Not do it. Just don't.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

I appreciate your response Russell.... As far as the number references go I’m
not familiar with them enough to comment myself but I guess having extra references
that accompany colour names can only be a good thing if it leads to a further
means of colour identification

That said I’m probably more likely to rely on the actual colour name descriptions
but who knows if I start to memorize the number references I may start to rely
on them on a more ongoing basis

Either way what is it about ‘old’ in the colour names that Bricklink doesn’t
like?

That aside the main focus of my attention was about giving the Bluish greys a
more appropriate name as nobody would initially expect these to be catalogued
under bluish grey? And since they are now Legos main staple grey colours and
will probably remain so for long into the foreseeable future it stands to reason
that we should attempt to given them a more appropriate and simple description
of Light/Dark grey Obviously doing this would cause issues with the older existing
greys in the catalog hence the reason I felt the need to try and address this
issue with the 'ol'd tag but to be honest I wouldn’t really care what
we called them be that Yellowed Grey, Dull grey, Storm cloud Grey, because they
are not so widely/commonly used anymore in comparison to the newer established
greys
Also if we managed to change all the flesh colours to nougat it’s not as if it
couldn’t be done if you wanted it to happen?
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Can we use both Lego and bricklink color names simultaneously, or the user can
choose an option which to use?

In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

LEGO colour designations and numbers were designed for manufacturing (I assume),
not collection or reselling. Bricklink designations and coding were designed
(I assume) for the collector or reseller. These are two different systems which
may not (and maybe should not) be compatable. I don't think we have to force
a square peg into a round hole.

To the OP, I also don't think light bluish gray is the biggest stumbling
block for new users. Yes, it may be a small learning curve, but certainly not
the first area I would work on to make the site more user friendly. And... it
doesn't bother me as a seller anymore.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Suggestions, psusaxman2000 writes:
  […]
Just to piggy back off of this, if you switch the ids in the back end, would
that require everyone that uses the API to upload parts to modify all that tools,
calls and what have you? I'm pretty sure that all that hash mapping in the
back end uses the id numbers currently to specify the color so this would be
a hard impact on users adding parts.

Yes, I’m about sure the BL numbers/codes are just the IDs in the database (it
would be surprising if the colours had a separate ID linking to both the “name”
and the “code,” so the “code” is the ID).
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In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  […]
As a person living with a form of colour blindness, let me tell you that all
the fancy names that colorists come up with do not help me at all. I just want
to know, "Is that thing basically blue? Or is it red?" Spare me the "August
Sunset", "Sea Foam" and "Dusty Rose" type of labels.

One doesn’t need to be colour blind to realize these names are marketting names.
Or rather, maybe your colour blindness made you believe colour names (even “simpler”
ones) had any real objective meaning while they don’t
It’s all arbitrary, historical, and mangled by translations and language evolution.


   What the heck is "azure" anyway?

”From Middle English asure, from Old French azur, derived from Arabic لَازَوَرْد‎
(lāzaward, “lapis lazuli”), dropping the l as if it were equivalent to the French
article l'. The Arabic is from Persian لاجورد‎ (lâjvard, “lapis lazuli”),
from the region of Lajward in Turkestan.”
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/azure

So it’s was the name of the region were a stone first (or most) originated.

But no one cares about that anymore, like no one cares “green” is akin to “grow”
(plants grow and plants are green).
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In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  Please do not start changing the existing colour names.

I am not interested in whatever Lego officially calls colours. I just need to
know what Bricklink calls them, so that I can list parts for sale, and purchase
parts on Bricklink. I don't think I am unique in this matter.

As a person living with a form of colour blindness, let me tell you that all
the fancy names that colorists come up with do not help me at all. I just want
to know, "Is that thing basically blue? Or is it red?" Spare me the "August
Sunset", "Sea Foam" and "Dusty Rose" type of labels.

How do you feel about your next brick color, Dark Turquoise or Bright Bluish
Green?

  What the heck is "azure" anyway?

Dark Azure? Well, it's kinda like Tiny-Medium Blue, which I'm sure you're
well familiar with
 
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  […]
  And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

Would that move the giant modulex gap out of my color chart?

Well, in a sense it would because LEGO didn’t always give different numbers for
Modulex colours when they were the same as already existing colours (a colour
is a colour, Modulex or not)… but they also used the same numbers for different
colours (e.g. 3 is “normal” Light Yellow AND Modulex Black).

http://www.ryanhowerter.net/colors.php


  Does Lego use every number sequentially?

It seems LEGO used numbers sequentially as they were needed but there are unexplained
holes (no 51-79, no 92-99, etc.) and what I think are “never used colours” or
“not used yet colours” (e.g. 361 & 365, missing opal colours?).


Also that doesn’t address the many-to-one, one-to-many, many-to-many relations
between BL and LEGO colours.

And, finally, it would ruin a tonload of files that use BL’s numbering.  Wanted
Lists and Inventories that use the BL numbers but also all the compatibility
databases out there.

So I’d say: not a good idea.

Just to piggy back off of this, if you switch the ids in the back end, would
that require everyone that uses the API to upload parts to modify all that tools,
calls and what have you? I'm pretty sure that all that hash mapping in the
back end uses the id numbers currently to specify the color so this would be
a hard impact on users adding parts.
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Please do not start changing the existing colour names.

I am not interested in whatever Lego officially calls colours. I just need to
know what Bricklink calls them, so that I can list parts for sale, and purchase
parts on Bricklink. I don't think I am unique in this matter.

As a person living with a form of colour blindness, let me tell you that all
the fancy names that colorists come up with do not help me at all. I just want
to know, "Is that thing basically blue? Or is it red?" Spare me the "August
Sunset", "Sea Foam" and "Dusty Rose" type of labels. What the heck is "azure"
anyway?

The only reason to pursue congruence with Lego's system is to make things
simpler. I don't see much evidence that will be the result of tinkering around
with colour names we've all memorized over the past decade or so.

Please. Do Not do it. Just don't.
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  […]
  And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

Would that move the giant modulex gap out of my color chart?

Well, in a sense it would because LEGO didn’t always give different numbers for
Modulex colours when they were the same as already existing colours (a colour
is a colour, Modulex or not)… but they also used the same numbers for different
colours (e.g. 3 is “normal” Light Yellow AND Modulex Black).

http://www.ryanhowerter.net/colors.php


  Does Lego use every number sequentially?

It seems LEGO used numbers sequentially as they were needed but there are unexplained
holes (no 51-79, no 92-99, etc.) and what I think are “never used colours” or
“not used yet colours” (e.g. 361 & 365, missing opal colours?).


Also that doesn’t address the many-to-one, one-to-many, many-to-many relations
between BL and LEGO colours.

And, finally, it would ruin a tonload of files that use BL’s numbering.  Wanted
Lists and Inventories that use the BL numbers but also all the compatibility
databases out there.

So I’d say: not a good idea.
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:

  Would that move the giant modulex gap out of my color chart? Does Lego use every
number sequentially?

Yes and, more importantly, no. There are colors that have more than one number
within Lego's system. There are many colors that were given a number but
never actually used in anything other than prototypes. There are numbers which
probably have a color, but we just haven't found a reference to it yet. And
there are many, many numbers which just refer to "Multicombination" (marbled/dual-molded)
parts.

While I do like to use Lego's color numbers, they don't always work 1:1
with BrickLink colors. Some of them (like new and old Dark Pink) have two different
Lego IDs, but are impossible to tell apart IRL. Others (like all the different
coppers) have been consolidated to make things simpler for buyers/sellers, since
the parts they come in don't really have much overlap.

As for Modulex... Lego's IDs for them often overlap with normal Lego colors.
5 Brick Yellow and 5 Mx Buff are both the same tan color. Same with 11 (Mx) Pastel
Blue (maersk blue). Others have no color match, but may have conflicting IDs.
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  In Suggestions, TBS writes:
Standard Green is actually 'Dark Green' but either way this topic is
not actually about revertng over to Lego colours

Ok, maybe i messed this one up,

It was the red which was the opposite, not the green. Just seen this on a blog.

Lego: Bright Red/ BL: Red .

Here is SOME more silly Lego-Colour-Names:

Sand Yellow/Dark Tan
Warm Gold/Pearl Gold
Bright Bluish Green/Dark Turquoise
Earth Blue/Dark Blue
Flame Yellowish Orange/Bright Light Orange
Bright Orange/Orange
Brick Yellow/Tan

When it comes to User-friendly, one should skip this idea already.
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In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea.

I think it's a good idea and logical first step towards harmonization.

To me, this seems and absolute bad idea. Because the LEGO naems are even more
confusing than the BL-Light,Bright,Standard,Dark Varitations.
I´d rather see LEGO adopting the BL-Names, than the other way around.
But doubt they ever will.

And switching to colour codes/numbers only. Oh i don´t know. htis makes it even
worse, especially by dealing for/with noobies.

If i remind correctly, these numbers aren´t even grouped?, correct?
Meaning, you can´t say Blues are 301 to 320 from light to dark...
They are 4 ,16, 51, 86, 325, 478 or so, because of their time/year being brought
in existence.

Could somebody check this ? Admin?
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

Would that move the giant modulex gap out of my color chart? Does Lego use every
number sequentially?
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  In Suggestions, TBS writes:
  
Don´t change, Bluish, can even be seen in the difference.

Yes it may look bluish in comparison to the older greys but if you present those
so called 'bluish greys' to anyone not familiar with Lego colours and
they will likey just describe them as Light Grey and Dark Grey, No?

Yes, they will have to learn. They gotta learn how BL works as well. No Problem
here?
The Point is, while you wan´t to make it super-easy, my approach is to make it
sillyproof.

When you change LBG to Light grey, and Old light grey we end up where we started,
having gained nothing. There are buyers who don´t see the difference in Here:
Light Grey and Light BLUISH Grey. They order and later complain, because they
didn´t pay Attention in the first place.

This is why i would go the "Light Bluish Grey" and "Old light Grey" route, to
make it even more discernable. If they don´t see the difference in the names
then, they most likely don´t care about the colour as well.



  I think this is about trying to make the site as user friendly as possible for ALL newcomers
rather than just keeping things the way they are just because the regulars already
understand these differences?

See above, bullet-proof is more importnant than userfriendly to me. Because you´re
not the one getting send the parts back, refund, repeat all the work with the
order again, for no profit or turnover. Just avoidable work.

  Standard Green is actually 'Dark Green' but either way this topic is
not actually about revertng over to Lego colours

Ok, maybe i messed this one up, however, saying earthblue instead of dark blue
makes no sense to me.
  
  
No, leave it as is... How is very shorter then pale? There is even Light and
Bright and what not. Very is a good one, and just applies to 2 or 3 Colours.
You don't think 'Pale Grey' is shorter than 'Very Light Bluish
Grey'?

ah, i see. i thought you would name it "pale light bluish grey". which is not
shorter than very.
I would pass here. The are 3 very colours, barely sought after.. useless work.
Also you´ll have to come up with "pale OLD light grey" (22 Parts) and "pale (-bluish,
-NEW) light grey" (50 parts) or so. Since its exactly the 2 light grey´s. That
even more confusing.
For very light orange, you have exactly ONE part, a cat:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6251px2#T=C&C=96

Renaming those seems useless to me.
I´d rather keep that pale idea in reserve, when some new colours come up again,
which fit neither Light or Bright.
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea.

I think it's a good idea and logical first step towards harmonization.

  When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.
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In Suggestions, TBS writes:
  
Don´t change, Bluish, can even be seen in the difference.

Yes it may look bluish in comparison to the older greys but if you present those
so called 'bluish greys' to anyone not familiar with Lego colours and
they will likey just describe them as Light Grey and Dark Grey, No? I think this
is about trying to make the site as user friendly as possible for ALL newcomers
rather than just keeping things the way they are just because the regulars already
understand these differences?

  LEGO´s Colour names are the ones who are Bullshit.
How does Whatever "Stone" Shades look alike? Which stones they refer to? It is
as stupid as their "Earth Blue or Earth Green". Absolutely unintuitive. The same
that the BL-colour Green is named bright green from LEGO. How is standard Green,
Bright-Green?

Standard Green is actually 'Dark Green' but either way this topic is
not actually about revertng over to Lego colours (already tried that) this is
about using descriptions that better represent the core main colours i.e Dark
Grey makes more sense to me than Dark Bluish Grey?

  
No, leave it as is... How is very shorter then pale? There is even Light and
Bright and what not. Very is a good one, and just applies to 2 or 3 Colours.

You don't think 'Pale Grey' is shorter than 'Very Light Bluish
Grey'?
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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  I would also consider using the ‘Old/Classic’ tag for some other discontinued
colours too like Brown i.e ‘Old Brown’

I agree on this one. Renaming that into "OLD+Colour Name" makes sense, and discerns
the differnce between the colours even more.
You have buyers which are to new to be aware of this, and then they say. "That´s
not the correct parts... "

  remaining as that is at least what Lego themselves call it but ‘bluish’ is a
made up bricklink term that has little relevance to the actual colour nor does
Lego use the term?

Don´t change, Bluish, can even be seen in the difference.
LEGO´s Colour names are the ones who are Bullshit.
How does Whatever "Stone" Shades look alike? Which stones they refer to? It is
as stupid as their "Earth Blue or Earth Green". Absolutely unintuitive. The same
that the BL-colour Green is named bright green from LEGO. How is standard Green,
Bright-Green?

  Also wherever we use the term ‘Very Light’ can I suggest using the term ‘Pale’.
i.e ‘Pale Grey’ instead of ‘Very Light Bluish Grey’ as shorter names are much
easier for people to read off the site and to label/Inventory their stocks even
if that does mean some initial disruption?

No, leave it as is... How is very shorter then pale? There is even Light and
Bright and what not. Very is a good one, and just applies to 2 or 3 Colours.

  Lastly shouldn’t we at least try and mirror Lego’s reference to Grey and use
‘Grey’ instead of ‘Gray’ in the descriptions?

As Non-Native English-speaker, is have no opinion on this.

  Thoughts?

Delivered.
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Can we lower the NPB time from 7 days to 2 days? Giving buyers almost 2 weeks
before a NPB ticket is completed is to long. If they don't respond to Bricklink
invoices, messages or emails directly in the first 5 days they shouldn't
get another 7 days.
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In Suggestions, psusaxman2000 writes:

  So if we were to rename the existing LG and LBG (in the future), how do you work
the compliment colors for these that were create for a short time of Very Light
Gray and Very Light Bluish Gray? If we are to stay constant, do we then rename
these as well to Very "Classic or Old" Gray?

'Very Light Grey' becomes 'Old Very Light Grey'

'Very Light Bluish Grey' becomes 'Very Light Grey'

But as per my original post I also made the suggestion to replace 'Very Light'
with 'Pale'
so they would be 'Old Pale Grey' and 'Pale Grey'

Colour shades would go from Light to Dark as:-

Pale
Light
Medium (or just the simple colour)
Dark
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  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

We can start by calling light gray and dark grey as old light grey and old dark
grey.

Then over 6 months drop the bluish from the new greys and we are done.

Easy,
Maxx
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In Suggestions, misbi writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
  It will be known to many that I’ve always favoured the idea of using official
Lego colour names not because I like them better or think they describe the
colours better (Many are very odd choices!) but simply because it creates less
uncertainty about what I’m selling and what the customer thinks they are buying
however I’ve made that argument already and now’s probably the time to accept
that Bricklink colour names are unlikely to match that of the Lego group!

At the very least, it would be helpful if BL and TLG names didn't directly
contradict each other. Specifically: Dark Green

Let's start with that one!

Yes that one is a particular bad example though in fairness to BL I think Lego
got that one terribly wrong. To me it is the equivalent of what Lego call 'Bright
Red' and 'Bright Blue' and in truth Lego should have also called
this 'Bright Green' plus if it was'nt for the fact that these became
the main staple core colours maybe bricklink would have kept them with the Bright
tag after all they are much brighter than most of the other shades of blues green
and reds that we have since appeared!

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