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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 8, 2023 15:22
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yorbrick (1185)

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In Problem, pcthurman writes:
  I came across a seller that has listed a set as New Sealed. They then added the
info, "100% complete, all minifigs included, instructions and box included.
Stickers not applied."

So, is this a used set that is complete? Why add all this extra info if the set
is in fact sealed as everything would be in the sealed box.

Has anyone else come across this before?

Cass T

With a description like that I imagine it is used but listed as sealed in error.
If priced as used, someone snaps it up believing it is sealed as listed that
way. Then the trouble starts when they receive an opened set.
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: May 8, 2023 12:52
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Ziegelmeister (223)

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In Problem, pcthurman writes:
  They got back to me this morning. Their reply was "Sorry, that sets has sold."

Maybe they realized an error and will fix it?

I wouldn't doubt it. It's amazing how quickly something sells (or it's
price goes up) when you reach out to someone about a specific set.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: May 8, 2023 12:08
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zorbanj (818)

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If the box seals are broken but everything is there it should be listed as New
Complete. The only info needed for a New Sealed listing is the box condition.

In Problem, pcthurman writes:
  I came across a seller that has listed a set as New Sealed. They then added the
info, "100% complete, all minifigs included, instructions and box included.
Stickers not applied."

So, is this a used set that is complete? Why add all this extra info if the set
is in fact sealed as everything would be in the sealed box.

Has anyone else come across this before?

Cass T
 Author: pcthurman View Messages Posted By pcthurman
 Posted: May 8, 2023 08:10
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pcthurman (1212)

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In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, pcthurman writes:
  I came across a seller that has listed a set as New Sealed. They then added the
info, "100% complete, all minifigs included, instructions and box included.
Stickers not applied."

So, is this a used set that is complete? Why add all this extra info if the set
is in fact sealed as everything would be in the sealed box.

Has anyone else come across this before?

Cass T

Maybe the bags are still sealed.

They got back to me this morning. Their reply was "Sorry, that sets has sold."

Maybe they realized an error and will fix it?

Cass T
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: May 8, 2023 07:45
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Brickwilbo (1534)

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In Problem, pcthurman writes:
  I came across a seller that has listed a set as New Sealed. They then added the
info, "100% complete, all minifigs included, instructions and box included.
Stickers not applied."

So, is this a used set that is complete? Why add all this extra info if the set
is in fact sealed as everything would be in the sealed box.

Has anyone else come across this before?

Cass T

Maybe the bags are still sealed.
 Author: pcthurman View Messages Posted By pcthurman
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pcthurman (1212)

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I came across a seller that has listed a set as New Sealed. They then added the
info, "100% complete, all minifigs included, instructions and box included.
Stickers not applied."

So, is this a used set that is complete? Why add all this extra info if the set
is in fact sealed as everything would be in the sealed box.

Has anyone else come across this before?

Cass T
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: May 6, 2023 11:40
 Subject: Re: Mercedes F1 Racecar piecelist
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In Problem, LeeGo73 writes:
  In Problem, MacMax writes:
  Hello. I think you know the lego set with the Mercedes F1 car and the Mercedes
Saftey car. I want to build the F1 racecar in different colours for my little
F1 collection. The problem is in the build description the piecelist of the two
cars is mixed. I don't know how i should start to find out which pieces i
need. Could anyone please help me

1) Download the 76909 building instructions from lego.com
2) Part out the set on Bricklink in the 'Want' section to a new want
list
3) Remove the parts needed for the 'AMG project one' car from the want
list using the building structions booklet 2
4) When finished you should end up with a want list with all parts needed for
the F1 W12

Use Studio. Import the set (i.e. the parts of the set) and built the racecar
digitally, following the 76909 instructions you downloaded from LEGO.com.

Then you can experiment with different colors while simultaneously seeing availability
and trying out alternative parts wherever necessary.

The final result can be uploaded as a wanted list on Bricklink.
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: May 6, 2023 10:00
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Ziegelmeister (223)

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In Problem, MacMax writes:
  Hello. I think you know the lego set with the Mercedes F1 car and the Mercedes
Saftey car. I want to build the F1 racecar in different colours for my little
F1 collection. The problem is in the build description the piecelist of the two
cars is mixed. I don't know how i should start to find out which pieces i
need. Could anyone please help me


There might be an easier way I'm not aware of, but when I do something like
this I start with parting out the set in BrickStore and then go through the instructions
for the pace car and delete pieces as i go. https://www.lego.com/cdn/product-assets/product.bi.core.pdf/6409872.pdf
 Author: LeeGo73 View Messages Posted By LeeGo73
 Posted: May 6, 2023 09:51
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LeeGo73 (1262)

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In Problem, MacMax writes:
  Hello. I think you know the lego set with the Mercedes F1 car and the Mercedes
Saftey car. I want to build the F1 racecar in different colours for my little
F1 collection. The problem is in the build description the piecelist of the two
cars is mixed. I don't know how i should start to find out which pieces i
need. Could anyone please help me

1) Download the 76909 building instructions from lego.com
2) Part out the set on Bricklink in the 'Want' section to a new want
list
3) Remove the parts needed for the 'AMG project one' car from the want
list using the building structions booklet 2
4) When finished you should end up with a want list with all parts needed for
the F1 W12
 Author: MacMax View Messages Posted By MacMax
 Posted: May 6, 2023 09:26
 Subject: Mercedes F1 Racecar piecelist
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MacMax (0)

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Hello. I think you know the lego set with the Mercedes F1 car and the Mercedes
Saftey car. I want to build the F1 racecar in different colours for my little
F1 collection. The problem is in the build description the piecelist of the two
cars is mixed. I don't know how i should start to find out which pieces i
need. Could anyone please help me
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 1, 2023 19:36
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brickecconomy has some
 Author: Sadler_Bricks View Messages Posted By Sadler_Bricks
 Posted: Apr 30, 2023 12:01
 Subject: Re: Is this pirate copy of 30614?
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Sadler_Bricks (1730)

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Very nice find some of the older parts are a tad harder to find that logo

Sadler_Bricks
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Apr 29, 2023 12:00
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In Problem, Nubs_Select writes:
  If it was sent to a place that requires sales tax to be collected then payment
has to be onsite or else you’d be keeping the collected tax which is illegal
if it is going to a place with sales tax then refund the buyer via how they
paid and ask them to pay onsite.
It’s the only way

Also I think those who started selling after 2017 or so can only offer onsite
payment methods in any case, unless they get permission from admin to offer bank
transfers
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Nubs_Select (3776)

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If it was sent to a place that requires sales tax to be collected then payment
has to be onsite or else you’d be keeping the collected tax which is illegal
if it is going to a place with sales tax then refund the buyer via how they
paid and ask them to pay onsite.
It’s the only way
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Not able to change status to paid after off site payment.
 Author: jerf123 View Messages Posted By jerf123
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I keep getting the PayPal API error when I try to pay. Has anyone figured out
exactly why this happens? I am trying to make an international purchase and
the store owner is unsure as to why it is happening also. Can anyone help us
to figure out how to resolve this so that we can make the transaction? Thanks!
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: Apr 25, 2023 13:52
 Subject: Re: Is this pirate copy of 30614?
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In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge

On the bottom left and bottom right posts that partly resemble a 1x1 round brick,
I can see some sort of text in their hollow studs.

Can you get a better close-up of the text in these posts on the corners?

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Apr 25, 2023 12:47
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Interesting.

I have two with 30 below 1 stud, 614 below another, 1.01 below a third and copyright
c below the fourth.

1 has 1.02 below one stud, copyright c below another and two studs are blank.

1 has 2.02 below one stud, copyright c below another and two studs are blank.






In Problem, Akir writes:
  In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge

I checked mine, this one does have the Lego logo in the corner studs (not in
the center one). The undersides of those studs say "30", "614",
"C)", and "2.01".
Funny, I've never noticed a part nr. being split up like that.
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 Posted: Apr 25, 2023 12:36
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In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge

I checked mine, this one does have the Lego logo in the corner studs (not in
the center one). The undersides of those studs say "30", "614",
"C)", and "2.01".
Funny, I've never noticed a part nr. being split up like that.
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I have four to hand, all have Lego logo in all four corner studs but not the
top one.

See image.




In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  In Problem, WoutR writes:
  In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge

Is there a LEGO logo inside the hollow studs?
I don't have one of these parts, but I would expect a logo there.

Not any sign og Lego ..

This is not fun at all, the pirate copies are getting seriously good 🥵
 
 Author: Amilia View Messages Posted By Amilia
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Amilia (89)

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In Problem, WoutR writes:
  In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge

Is there a LEGO logo inside the hollow studs?
I don't have one of these parts, but I would expect a logo there.

Not any sign og Lego ..

This is not fun at all, the pirate copies are getting seriously good 🥵
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge

Given the age (it hasn't been produced for 20 years), it is less likely to
be a fake part as most of the fake sets copy relatively modern sets. I don't
thin I have ever seen fakes of those older sets this was in but have seen plenty
of fakes of the more modern HP sets.
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In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge

Is there a LEGO logo inside the hollow studs?
I don't have one of these parts, but I would expect a logo there.
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In Problem, bolsjek_msn_com writes:
  I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge

looks lego. was in set 4702
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I can't find anything that confirms that this is genuine Lego.
Can anyone confirm or direct me where to look for positive or negative confirms

Regards
Bjørge
 


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  Hi
have had this happen to me too, it is a learning curve, i now photograph everything
(and have stated this in my terms), send him the arms that are faulty is the
cheapest option as if he has bought yours to swap with his faulty ones he is
going to send you the grotty ones and keep your good ones,sometimes you just
have to accept there are people like this and if you get a negative have to accept
it..it will not affect your sales as most people don't go by just the bad
feedbacks but look at the overall service offered
hope this helps you

Yeah, if it really is cracks in arms and not seam lines then some photos would
help although if the seller did not spot them when sending out, chances are photos
will not help or they have been switched by the buyer. Luckily arms on older
figures tended to be plain so easy to replace unless it is a rare colour. Whereas
a crack on a torso is more problematic.

If the seller is sure the buyer is trying it on, stoplist is the way to go to
avoid the buyer in future. And as you say replacing the arms is the cheapest
option (although they might then claim the torsos cracked when replacing the
arms), or get the buyer to return them for a refund and replace them yourself.
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
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Ziegelmeister (223)

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In Problem, yorbrick writes:
  
  "Cracking" however is thought to be caused by prolonged pressure from
the leg studs... But i've got 35 year old figs that have never been unmated
that don't have any cracks so who the heck knows.

How would leg studs be responsible for cracked arms?

Because I didn't see that part.
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In Problem, fignbrick writes:
  Hi Everyone,

I shipped out a big order to a guy with 51 figures in it. I examine each figure
with a magnifying glass to ensure they are in the condition I stated. I never
ship out or sell cracked figures unless I describe it as such. This buyer is
claiming that nearly 10 figures have cracked arms. Sent me pictures which there
is NO WAY I sent out figures with cracked arms. He wants a lot of money back,
and before I replied to his demands he filed a "non shipping seller alert???"
I shipped it out in a box with tons of bubble wrap and purchased insurance (though
I certain the post office did not damage it).

What do I do? He cannot be telling me the truth. He has 14 positive feedbacks
for buying and 41 for selling...so he is mainly a seller.

Additionally...he emailed me like 10 times asking me the same question over and
over and over again about when I shipped, did I ship? What did I ship etc.

I am so worried that my rating will be affected. I take great pride in selling
on here.

Thanks in advance for the advice,
Jenn


Hi
have had this happen to me too, it is a learning curve, i now photograph everything
(and have stated this in my terms), send him the arms that are faulty is the
cheapest option as if he has bought yours to swap with his faulty ones he is
going to send you the grotty ones and keep your good ones,sometimes you just
have to accept there are people like this and if you get a negative have to accept
it..it will not affect your sales as most people don't go by just the bad
feedbacks but look at the overall service offered
hope this helps you
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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  "Cracking" however is thought to be caused by prolonged pressure from
the leg studs... But i've got 35 year old figs that have never been unmated
that don't have any cracks so who the heck knows.

How would leg studs be responsible for cracked arms?
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Ziegelmeister (223)

Location:  USA, Ohio
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In Problem, Tloftus writes:
  Tell him to ship the minifigures back to you (at his cost) and give him the cost
of the minifigs back, if he doesn't wanna do that, it could mean he has the
same figures and took pictures of those claiming they was damaged and wants free
money. you did say he was a seller correct? and i wonder how many others he
has done this too as well.

+1 on this theory.

OP, how do you pack your minifigs and how did you pack this order with so many?
Usually when I have more than 4 I put them all in their own bags, and each one
has a sheet of cardboard between the two so that they lay against each other
at an angle, and then I tape all of them inside sheets of cardboard to prevent
any damage.

"Cracking" however is thought to be caused by prolonged pressure from
the leg studs... But i've got 35 year old figs that have never been unmated
that don't have any cracks so who the heck knows.

Were these modern or classic minifigs?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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yorbrick (1185)

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It is possible the buyer is mistaking mold seams for cracks. When do you check
them, at the time of listing or sending?

If they are plain arms then have them shipped back, then replace the arms if
the value of the figures make it worthwhile.
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Location:  USA, Oregon
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First off a "Non-Shipping Seller Alert" will be removed by BL. If he
has them, and says they are cracked, you obviously shipped them. As long as
you attempt to solve the problem, it will be removed. Even if they give negative
feedback, your attempt to solve the problem will show BL that it is not accurate.

I doubt that the figs were damaged in the mail. I am human and have missed a
crack myself. I had two orders where a crack was discovered, so I had two sets
of eyes looking at all my minifigs for a while. We did not find any for over
a year, so I went back to checking when I put them in inventory and when I sell
them.

For me, I would offer to send him a shipping label to send the damaged ones back.
Instruct them to take it to the counter at the PO and have the teller scan it.
Once the post office has scanned it he will not be liable for the package if
it is missing. By sending him the label you have accurate tracking info. Once
I had them I would refund the money. This will be zero cost for him and zero
profit if he plans on re-selling them. The label will likely cost you much less
than flat-out refunding him. Most likely they will just say forget it.

Above all else. Keep your side of the communication on the order (contact buyer
link on order page). Never take the conversation into emails or texts. Keep
it professional and kind. Have responses like "It has been a week since
I sent you the label to return the Minifigures. In order to refund you I will
need them back. If I don't hear anything from you by (date), I will assume
you are happy with them and will be keeping them." Provide deadlines and
reminders of deadlines. If they don't cooperate, BL will easily be able
to review your claim by seeing all the communication in one spot. I have even
copied emails sent by customers and put them in the order thread. You might
also want to watch their store to see if your figures pop up for sale. Then
you can add things to the conversation such as "I see you posted (figure)
for sale on your site, is that the same figure you are requesting a refund on?
Remember, if you send that back to me I am more than willing to refund the figure."
Once the date YOU set passes and they have not sent it back yet, contact BL to
fix any alerts and prevent them from providing feedback.

I wish you all the luck. Just remember to be kind but don't give in.
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ghyde (203)

Location:  Australia, Queensland
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In Problem, fignbrick writes:
  Hi Everyone,

I shipped out a big order to a guy with 51 figures in it. I examine each figure
with a magnifying glass to ensure they are in the condition I stated. I never
ship out or sell cracked figures unless I describe it as such. This buyer is
claiming that nearly 10 figures have cracked arms. Sent me pictures which there
is NO WAY I sent out figures with cracked arms. He wants a lot of money back,
and before I replied to his demands he filed a "non shipping seller alert???"
I shipped it out in a box with tons of bubble wrap and purchased insurance (though
I certain the post office did not damage it).

What do I do? He cannot be telling me the truth. He has 14 positive feedbacks
for buying and 41 for selling...so he is mainly a seller.

Additionally...he emailed me like 10 times asking me the same question over and
over and over again about when I shipped, did I ship? What did I ship etc.

I am so worried that my rating will be affected. I take great pride in selling
on here.

Thanks in advance for the advice,
Jenn

Did he send you any pictures of the box you shipped it in? It sounds like it
was damaged somehow, if he is telling the truth he should have provided pictures
of the box.

If you try to claim that he's lying and has deliberately broken the minifigs
that would be a long and costly battle for no real return, and you face the possibility
of having to have a retaliatory feedback from him removed.

Did you take photos of the minifigs in their packaging before you shipped them?

Something is definitely not right. If the buyer is not at fault, it means something
happened during transit.

If he won't or can't supply box photos I would recommend you refund and
stoplist him to prevent further issues.

Cheers ...

ghyde
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Tloftus (34)

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Tell him to ship the minifigures back to you (at his cost) and give him the cost
of the minifigs back, if he doesn't wanna do that, it could mean he has the
same figures and took pictures of those claiming they was damaged and wants free
money. you did say he was a seller correct? and i wonder how many others he
has done this too as well.
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sasquatch_eater (81)

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If he's saying the figures are cracked and you didn't ship them then
something is wrong.
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Location:  USA, California
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Hi Everyone,

I shipped out a big order to a guy with 51 figures in it. I examine each figure
with a magnifying glass to ensure they are in the condition I stated. I never
ship out or sell cracked figures unless I describe it as such. This buyer is
claiming that nearly 10 figures have cracked arms. Sent me pictures which there
is NO WAY I sent out figures with cracked arms. He wants a lot of money back,
and before I replied to his demands he filed a "non shipping seller alert???"
I shipped it out in a box with tons of bubble wrap and purchased insurance (though
I certain the post office did not damage it).

What do I do? He cannot be telling me the truth. He has 14 positive feedbacks
for buying and 41 for selling...so he is mainly a seller.

Additionally...he emailed me like 10 times asking me the same question over and
over and over again about when I shipped, did I ship? What did I ship etc.

I am so worried that my rating will be affected. I take great pride in selling
on here.

Thanks in advance for the advice,
Jenn
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wildchicken13 (876)

Location:  USA, Illinois
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Indeed, I agree. It's like being asked to "read and agree to the terms
and conditions" when you download a piece of software. No one does, because
the terms are often very long and written in legal language few can read. But
by clicking "I have read and agree to the terms and conditions" you are
still bound by them even if you never actually read them.

The main difference here is that big software companies have lawyers who can
enforce their products' terms, while BrickLink sellers generally do not.
So it's BrickLink (which runs the site) and PayPal (which provides the payment
infrastructure) whose terms of service really matter.

And as you point out, store terms are often written in (sometimes bad) English,
which further weakens their validity in jurisdictions where the terms must be
in the language of the customer. At least PayPal has translated theirs into other
languages.
 
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1001bricks (52383)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In Problem, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Problem, 1001bricks writes:
  Problem is:
* buyers don't read Store Terms,
* often Terms are too long to read,
* many people don't read English,
* nothing forces a buyer to read or agree Terms (like a check box to click
"I have understood".

You should refund gracefully, especially if it's not worth starting a war
for this.

On Step 1 of the checkout process, BrickLink does display the seller's terms
and conditions and the buyer must click "Agree and Continue" in order
to proceed to the next step.

What means "Agree and Continue" in Swahili?

What does this "bla bla" in Terms mean in Sweden?

Here anyway in EU, and for a private customer, you can't legally be bound
by something not written in your language (of course!)

But all in all, it's not the point.

I've scientific stats for you: 99.99% of buyers don't read ANYTHING,
including the shiping method "Please give us your Relay Point / Phone number
/ We can't deliver to PO pox", including/excluding anything, nothing,
or everything.

I was afraid of double negation.
In short, no, they read zilch, nada.

PS: and I do the same when I buy - I mean, I read but VERY quickly.
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wildchicken13 (876)

Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Problem, 1001bricks writes:
  Problem is:
* buyers don't read Store Terms,
* often Terms are too long to read,
* many people don't read English,
* nothing forces a buyer to read or agree Terms (like a check box to click
"I have understood".

You should refund gracefully, especially if it's not worth starting a war
for this.

On Step 1 of the checkout process, BrickLink does display the seller's terms
and conditions and the buyer must click "Agree and Continue" in order
to proceed to the next step.

However, store terms don't have much real power. PayPal generally protects
buyers' right to a return an item for a full refund.
 
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What some (myself included) do for filler standard bricks is list them in the
not applicable colour so it’s dosnt mess up the price guide and from the looks
of it that’s almost the “standard” thing to do so it dosnt mess up the price
guide at all and then there isn’t an image so the buyer dosnt visually confirm
it’s the right item which might make them wonder what it is then double check
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yorbrick (1185)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Problem, axaday writes:
  In Problem, yorbrick writes:
  I don't really understand why sellers list poor quality 'filler'
bricks here under catalogue entries. Not only is it possible for buyers to purchase
without seeing comments and terms, it also messes up the price guide but most
importantly can lead to buyer disappointment. Bundle as a custom lot that won't
appear in an easy buy or bundle with a description and photo on ebay, or a local
deal on facebook or similar to avoid high postage costs in comparison to the
value of the poor quality parts.

Or just give them to your daughters.

My daughter wouldn't use filler, she has plenty of clean parts bought here,
mainly in pinks, lavenders and purples that seem to be worth even less than filler!
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Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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In Problem, yorbrick writes:
  I don't really understand why sellers list poor quality 'filler'
bricks here under catalogue entries. Not only is it possible for buyers to purchase
without seeing comments and terms, it also messes up the price guide but most
importantly can lead to buyer disappointment. Bundle as a custom lot that won't
appear in an easy buy or bundle with a description and photo on ebay, or a local
deal on facebook or similar to avoid high postage costs in comparison to the
value of the poor quality parts.

Or just give them to your daughters.
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  Don't forget that it is possible for buyers to fill a cart here without ever
being shown the item description via Easy Buy. For this reason, I only ever seller
filler bricks as a custom lot. You can accept that our system simply does not
enforce buyers to follow our personal terms, or enforce your own terms by
leaving (and likely taking) a negative feedback.

Good idea.

I don't really understand why sellers list poor quality 'filler'
bricks here under catalogue entries. Not only is it possible for buyers to purchase
without seeing comments and terms, it also messes up the price guide but most
importantly can lead to buyer disappointment. Bundle as a custom lot that won't
appear in an easy buy or bundle with a description and photo on ebay, or a local
deal on facebook or similar to avoid high postage costs in comparison to the
value of the poor quality parts.
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Problem, MillionBricks writes:
  Hi!

I have precisely this kind of problem with a client, who bought a large number
of bricks filler well identified in my description at a ridiculous price. Now
he wants to be reimbursed because he considers the bricks not usable. he insists
on re-shipping me the briks and for a refund. Already opened a case at Paypal.
This is my store policy:
Fillers: Category # 3 = When you see *Medium to heavy play wear may have; scuffs/scratches/chips/nicks,
slight damage, or discoloration.* They must be considered fillers and are list
and price as so.(undetermined type). IN THIS CATEGORY, WE WILL ONLY REFUND MISSING
ITEMS. WE WILL NOT SEND ANY REPLACEMENT.

I wonder if I should refund and move on or go to the end of the Paypal case.

Will probably have a negative feedback anyways

Thanks

Sorry that you are faced with this frustrating situation!

I don't have experience on how Paypal would rule regarding item conditions,
but accepting a return with a refund is a fairly standard for online sales especially
if the buyer is paying return postage.

Don't forget that it is possible for buyers to fill a cart here without ever
being shown the item description via Easy Buy. For this reason, I only ever seller
filler bricks as a custom lot. You can accept that our system simply does not
enforce buyers to follow our personal terms, or enforce your own terms by
leaving (and likely taking) a negative feedback.

~Jen
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Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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  This is my store policy:

Problem is:
* buyers don't read Store Terms,
* often Terms are too long to read,
* many people don't read English,
* nothing forces a buyer to read or agree Terms (like a check box to click
"I have understood".


  I wonder if I should refund and move on or go to the end of the Paypal case.

You should refund gracefully, especially if it's not worth starting a war
for this.
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Location:  Canada, Quebec
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Hi!

I have precisely this kind of problem with a client, who bought a large number
of bricks filler well identified in my description at a ridiculous price. Now
he wants to be reimbursed because he considers the bricks not usable. he insists
on re-shipping me the briks and for a refund. Already opened a case at Paypal.
This is my store policy:
Fillers: Category # 3 = When you see *Medium to heavy play wear may have; scuffs/scratches/chips/nicks,
slight damage, or discoloration.* They must be considered fillers and are list
and price as so.(undetermined type). IN THIS CATEGORY, WE WILL ONLY REFUND MISSING
ITEMS. WE WILL NOT SEND ANY REPLACEMENT.

I wonder if I should refund and move on or go to the end of the Paypal case.

Will probably have a negative feedback anyways

Thanks
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I had the same issue. However, once I changed the "Image Color" to Non
applicable, it loaded just fine.
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Brilliant, Thankyou. I will get one of those on order to try. I like the twin
claw option as that should fit better with my build design where im trying to
get 3 of these lights spaced across 10 stud width.

Mandy


In Problem, wyvern writes:
  I know you want a clip on the end, but depending on the build you're working
with, you can use this part:
 
Part No: 22484  Name: Bar   1L with Tow Ball
* 
22484 Bar 1L with Tow Ball
Parts: Bar
and then maybe you can replace the bar or whatever it's supposed to clip
to with one of these parts:
 
Part No: 14418  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Small Tow Ball Socket on End
* 
14418 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Small Tow Ball Socket on End
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 14704  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Small Tow Ball Socket on Side
* 
14704 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Small Tow Ball Socket on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 60470b  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 2 Open O Clips (Horizontal Grip)
* 
60470b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 2 Open O Clips (Horizontal Grip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
Yes it actually does fit that last one! I've seen that combo before, but
I don't remember where. Whether it was in an official set or not, Stud.io
treats that connection like any other joint, so I would say it's perfectly
"legal"
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Location:  USA, Ohio
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I know you want a clip on the end, but depending on the build you're working
with, you can use this part:
 
Part No: 22484  Name: Bar   1L with Tow Ball
* 
22484 Bar 1L with Tow Ball
Parts: Bar
and then maybe you can replace the bar or whatever it's supposed to clip
to with one of these parts:
 
Part No: 14418  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Small Tow Ball Socket on End
* 
14418 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Small Tow Ball Socket on End
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 14704  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Small Tow Ball Socket on Side
* 
14704 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Small Tow Ball Socket on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 60470b  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 2 Open O Clips (Horizontal Grip)
* 
60470b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 2 Open O Clips (Horizontal Grip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
Yes it actually does fit that last one! I've seen that combo before, but
I don't remember where. Whether it was in an official set or not, Stud.io
treats that connection like any other joint, so I would say it's perfectly
"legal"
 


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Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
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In Problem, mandynicholls78 writes:
  I would like to turn the clear plate around so it fits edge to edge, but as the
centres are both able to receive a stud they don't fit. Is there a stud to
stud joint? i cant use a bar as the bar with claw isnt long enough to go through
the grey to then hold the inverted clear. I need some form of claw on the back
hence the stud on the rear as its being mounted to a bar.

Thanks
Mandy

maybe these:
 
Part No: 78258  Name: Bar 2L with Stop Ring
* 
78258 Bar 2L with Stop Ring
Parts: Bar {Black}
 
Part No: 11090  Name: Bar Holder with Clip
* 
11090 Bar Holder with Clip
Parts: Bar {Black}


or
 
Part No: 87994  Name: Bar   3L (Bar Arrow)
* 
87994 Bar 3L (Bar Arrow)
Parts: Bar {Black}
 
Part No: 11090  Name: Bar Holder with Clip
* 
11090 Bar Holder with Clip
Parts: Bar {Black}

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