Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | chairman888 | Posted: | May 20, 2020 00:07 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 346-1 | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3035 Light Gray Plate 4 x 8 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 4 Part Light Gray {3035 Plate 4 x 8 to 3035old Plate 4 x 8 with Waffle Bottom} {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
I have my 346-1 but no original box or instructions. The 4 light gray plates are all waffle bottom. I didn’t own any of the other kits listed as having light gray waffle so I suspect that this kit (or least my copy) came with waffle bottom plates. I am not certain enough to suggest changing this piece entirely from 3035 to 3035old, only to suggest an alternate.
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 20:39 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4669-1 | Viewed: | 17 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 3962b Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle (Extra)
* Change {1 to 2} Part Dark Bluish Gray 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle
Comments from Submitter:
Both walkie-talkies are used in the set.
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 20:34 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4669-1 | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 3962b Dark Bluish Gray Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle (Extra)
* Change {1 to 2} Part Dark Bluish Gray 3962b Minifigure, Utensil Radio with Extended Handle
Comments from Submitter:
Both walkie-talkies are used in the set.
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 20:29 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4669-1 | Viewed: | 12 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Tribols writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3678a Blue Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 Smooth without Bottom Tube
Comments from Submitter:
The white 6140 is on a white 3004 block and the blue part it is on is not in the inventory!
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Yes, the part is in the inventory. It is
This request will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | Brixalotl | Posted: | May 19, 2020 20:29 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75081-1 | Viewed: | 21 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 44567a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side with Bottom Groove (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 4 Part Black 44567b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side without Bottom Groove {match ID 0 to 2}
Comments from Submitter:
found variant during part out, thanks
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Author: | Brixalotl | Posted: | May 19, 2020 19:43 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75918-1 | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Black {44567 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side (Undetermined Type) to 44567a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger on Side with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
confirmed during part out, thanks
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 19:05 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 75234-1 | Viewed: | 19 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, jamescanney writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {1 to 2} Part Black 2780 Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise with Center Slots (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
i did the set twice and was left with 2 extra pins. With 55 used in the set, this would make more sense to have 2 extra included
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I watched three speed builds from sealed set contents, and they all showed two
extra pins. Request accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | Tribols | Posted: | May 19, 2020 18:57 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4669-1 | Viewed: | 18 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3678a Blue Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 Smooth without Bottom Tube
Comments from Submitter:
The white 6140 is on a white 3004 block and the blue part it is on is not in the inventory!
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Author: | Adjour | Posted: | May 19, 2020 18:43 | Subject: | Re: Technic Stickered Assembly Items | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 1271moggy writes:
| I have been checking my son's Technic collection for completeness etc, and
have come across some Technic stickered assembly items, which are not in the
catalogue under the counterparts section.
Is there a reason for this, or is it simply no-one has been brave enough to
do it?
I don't mind having a go and try and get them entered, but I am not very
good with coming up with good accurate descriptions for the stickers. If it
was a plain number, I'd be fine, but when it comes to a SW figure, I don't
wish to describe it as one thing and upset the SW fans who know it should be
something else.
Also is there a limit to the number of characters you can put into a description?
As some Technic entry's are quite long before anything else is added.
See the photos for the items which I am referring to.
Any help/advise I would be most grateful for.
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I noticed when I was working on a similar project that yes, the counterparts
were missing to some of the older, smaller, technic sets.
I think just no one has bothered to work on it.
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 18:20 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {11 to 7} Part Red 3010 Brick 1 x 4
* Change {4 to 2} Part Red 3701 Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes
Comments from Submitter:
Checked with my own item of this type. But at these two position I have another qunantity as in the bricklink inventory. So I have checked the building instruction regadring these two item and so i have confirmed that the bricklink inventory have this two failures..
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As has already been pointed out by another member, these parts were used to create
an alternate assembly of the connections of the arms to the body. These requests
will not be accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:42 | Subject: | Re: Inventory for fabac3 | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
Oops. My bad. Obviously I can't keep up with everything happening on the
catalog side of things like you can!
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:31 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
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I bought my 10030 a year after I decided to because I had to wait until I got
a bonus at work. It arrived in LBG. I had never seen LBG before and I hated
it.
I have gotten used to LBG by now. I do like LG better. But on the Star Destroyer,
LBG just isn't right.
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:29 | Subject: | Re: Inventory for fabac3 | Viewed: | 24 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| I would like to create an inventory for part just like part
has. But what part number should I use for the base?
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If there is no number on it, then it gets a 'bb' number. The next available
'bb' number is bb1131.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | Hygrotus | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:28 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Minifig sh590 | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Bright Green to Dark Purple} 973pb3661c01 Torso Vest, Orange Bow Tie and Pocket Chain Pattern / Bright Green Arms / Light Bluish Gray Hands
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:25 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
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This is definitely not true. There are a number of sets during the color transition
era where the old grays and new grays were mixed together in the same set. Please
do some research before making such broad generalizations.
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Here is one of the most high profile cases of this:
See the additional note on the set:
"The early production runs of this set featured Light Gray elements but subsequent
production runs have contained varying mixtures of Light Gray and Light Bluish
Gray elements."
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Author: | normann1974 | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:19 | Subject: | Inventory for fabac3 | Viewed: | 63 times | Topic: | Catalog | Status: | Open | |
| I would like to create an inventory for part just like part
has. But what part number should I use for the base?
/Jan
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:18 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 56 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
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Jon only parts out brand new sets that have never been opened. If he found light
gray parts, he found light gray parts.
| If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004.
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They sure did. See https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&colorInSet=9&sortBy=Y&sortAsc=D&catType=S
| A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
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It was at some point, and it happened to make it into this set according to Jon.
| Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
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This is definitely not true. There are a number of sets during the color transition
era where the old grays and new grays were mixed together in the same set. Please
do some research before making such broad generalizations.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:15 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260780
In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
Alexei
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | May 19, 2020 16:10 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
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Sealed sets, very nice Light Gray, not yellowy Light Bluish Gray.
| If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006.
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And sets routinely come with older variant pieces that were no longer in production
when the set was produced.
| The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
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What I am telling you is that they did. I have seen them and I sold them in
January.
| Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
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I have seen it several times in Dacta Technic/Mindstorm sets.
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Author: | xoshimin | Posted: | May 19, 2020 15:56 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| | Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?
Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?
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I will try to take some good photos tomorrow afternoon and upload them for free
download. I allow you to use these photos on the Bricklink website.
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Author: | xoshimin | Posted: | May 19, 2020 15:52 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
|
Thanks for your reply.
I think this is a mistake.
Or the parts were replaced with parts with the color Light Gray (in the used
set). Or the parts are yellowed with time (if the set was sealed).
If we look in the Bricklink database for details with the color Light Gray (3023,
3894, 3702, 3703, 56145), then we will see that LEGO did not use this color after
2004. A set of 9797 began production in 2006. The 56145 wheel was not produced
at all in the Light Gray color.
Second, I haven't seen sets where LEGO used "old" and "new" gray parts. Sets
always use parts of the "old" color - Light Gray and Dark Gray, or only parts
of the "new" color - Light Bluish Gray and Dark Bluish Gray.
Alexei
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Author: | paulvdb | Posted: | May 19, 2020 14:56 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Gear 853600 | Viewed: | 23 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3626cpb0675 Sand Green Minifigure, Head Female with Black Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils, Dark Green Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud (Alternate) (match ID 1)
Comments from Submitter:
Minifigure in this set has been found with c head. Corrected version of this request: https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=268141
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Author: | Hermano1979 | Posted: | May 19, 2020 14:45 | Subject: | Re: 6373 Motorcycle Shop inventory question | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, SezaR writes:
Thanx!
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Author: | Hermano1979 | Posted: | May 19, 2020 14:29 | Subject: | 6373 Motorcycle Shop inventory question | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| Hi,
I rebuild this old set according to BL inventory list and original instructions.
But in the end I have 3 bits left...
2x 3024 Yellow Plate 1 x 1
1x 3794a Yellow Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)
Looked at the instructions a couple of times now and I just can't figure
out where to put them.
Any ideas?
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | May 19, 2020 11:37 | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| […]
Fair point. But the same sets packaged in different factories or even at different
times in the same factory, or perhaps even at the same time in the same factory,
may contain different variants.
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That other sets came out differently from the same (or not) factory at the same
time (or not) doesn’t change the fact that one set is as it was when it came
out of the factory.
All the sesterces are different, it doesn’t change the fact some of them can
be certified as being real antique coins from a certified time-period.
| I stand by my opinion that period-specificity is at least somewhat delusional.
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If you’re “bricklinking” the set.
And it also depends on your value of “good enough”: Do you trace all the parts,
asserting they came from boxes the siblings of the set you’re bricklinking?
Or are you content with “we know these variants were made around that time”?
| | So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.
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True. But what does that even mean?
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Well, you are the one who used the term
| […]
Because of the aforementioned variability in packaging for a given set, what
real meaning do the words "historically accurate" or "period-specific" even have?
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There’s the same thing with cars: there are the “only original parts,” the “we
replaced some parts with others from the same manufacturer and period,” and the
“we used some 3D-printed parts” and so on. And some parts (chassis, engine…)
are more important than others (belts) and even on some important parts, some
modifications are allowed without removing value (remove rusted parts of the
body, weld some new bits).
There’s the same thing with all collectible items.
And the “meaning” of “historically accurate” or “period-specific” is not binary
(is / isn’t), it’s, like about every word, a gradation of what people agree it
is.
It can be discussed precisely, generally between a seller and a buyer, to translate
it in monetary value, but it’ll still be generally fuzzy.
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:45 | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | Viewed: | 93 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| One’s owning the set since it was bought sealed and never having mixed its parts
allows one to say one’s copy is historically accurate.
Or any certified track of the set and its parts from the time it was bought sealed
allows the latest owner to say their copy is historically accurate.
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Fair point. But the same sets packaged in different factories or even at different
times in the same factory, or perhaps even at the same time in the same factory,
may contain different variants.
I stand by my opinion that period-specificity is at least somewhat delusional.
| So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.
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True. But what does that even mean?
I do not have a large personal collection of LEGO parts. I looked through my
parts collection recently to create the attached image of the variants in molded
printing (which BL doesn't even distinguish) for just one part. And I missed
including one in the photo, by the way.
Each part in the photo shows a distinct and separate variant of molded printing,
with the second from the top having none at all. And my rough estimate at this
point is that at least two thirds of all parts have actual mold variants, while
most parts in production for more than a couple years probably have one or many
molded printing variants.
Because of the aforementioned variability in packaging for a given set, what
real meaning do the words "historically accurate" or "period-specific" even have?
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Author: | bje | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:40 | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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I think I've figured out that, in addition to the other problems with variants,
BrickLink perpetuates the somewhat delusional thinking of pride in owning a period-specific
set.
Only if every single variant was thoroughly documented and also documented to
have appeared in that set could you say that your copy of a set is historically
accurate. And considering that many (if not most or all) parts have variants,
chasing those phantoms might become rather nonsensical at some point.
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Don't know about the delusion so much, but I would be pretty ticked off if
somebody sold me a so-called used complete at $1 000 and it included
a bunch of modern cheap variants. Or worse still some early space sets with
the wrong clips, and LBG and DBG parts. It is all relative - someone like me
prefer to deal ith the correct thing at the correct time and I am prepared to
invest the time and effort in it. From experience with return buyers, I know
I am not alone. And yes, I've had buyers ask me to check pips, pins, hole
sizes, clips and mold numbers and send images prior to shipping and also to make
sure the variants and colour differences are correct. Of course I've also
had buyers who just do not care.
I personally would not go as far as to mention closed and open pins and combinations
thereof, but I find for the serious buyer it pays to find serious sellers, catalogue
failings notwithstanding
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Author: | paulvdb | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:32 | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
The note for this one can of course also be added to the unprinted 3009. And
probably a number of other decorated versions of this brick and other 1 x X bricks
and plates.
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:22 | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | Viewed: | 56 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| […]
Only if every single variant was thoroughly documented and also documented to
have appeared in that set could you say that your copy of a set is historically
accurate.
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Er, not exactly.
One’s owning the set since it was bought sealed and never having mixed its parts
allows one to say one’s copy is historically accurate.
Or any certified track of the set and its parts from the time it was bought sealed
allows the latest owner to say their copy is historically accurate.
So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.
| And considering that many (if not most or all) parts have variants,
chasing those phantoms might become rather nonsensical at some point.
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And the one who discovers a variant can’t even have the ego-boost of the variant
being named after them.
No “3961 stormchaserus” for you
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | May 19, 2020 10:06 | Subject: | Re: More Variants Discovered | Viewed: | 57 times | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| I just added comparison photos and additional notes for the following part variants
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I've just added pictures and notes for ten more. A few are mildly interesting
and will be worth your time to see:
* | | 30387 Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Locking with 1 Finger Vertical End and 2 Fingers Vertical End Parts: Hinge |
I think I've figured out that, in addition to the other problems with variants,
BrickLink perpetuates the somewhat delusional thinking of pride in owning a period-specific
set.
Only if every single variant was thoroughly documented and also documented to
have appeared in that set could you say that your copy of a set is historically
accurate. And considering that many (if not most or all) parts have variants,
chasing those phantoms might become rather nonsensical at some point.
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Author: | 1271moggy | Posted: | May 19, 2020 09:53 | Subject: | Technic Stickered Assembly Items | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Inventories | Status: | Open | |
| I have been checking my son's Technic collection for completeness etc, and
have come across some Technic stickered assembly items, which are not in the
catalogue under the counterparts section.
Is there a reason for this, or is it simply no-one has been brave enough to
do it?
I don't mind having a go and try and get them entered, but I am not very
good with coming up with good accurate descriptions for the stickers. If it
was a plain number, I'd be fine, but when it comes to a SW figure, I don't
wish to describe it as one thing and upset the SW fans who know it should be
something else.
Also is there a limit to the number of characters you can put into a description?
As some Technic entry's are quite long before anything else is added.
See the photos for the items which I am referring to.
Any help/advise I would be most grateful for.
Thanking you all.
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Author: | starbeanie | Posted: | May 19, 2020 09:36 | Subject: | Re: Parts with stickers on when parting out | Viewed: | 27 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| Use Brickstock.
In Inventories, flheide writes:
| In Inventories, Quaysretire writes:
| I just parted out a used set, but I didn’t get the option to do the counterparts
with stickers, is that normal? So hence I feel like I have to go back through
and remove the items from the inventory and then readd them 1 by 1 with the new
part number with the sticker on. Painful
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Did you find a way to fix this?
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Author: | CCBricks | Posted: | May 19, 2020 09:05 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Gear 853600 | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| In Inventories Requests, CCBricks writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3626bpb0675 Sand Green Minifigure, Head Female with Black Eyebrows, Eyelashes, White Pupils, Dark Green Lips Pattern - Blocked Open Stud (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Upon verifying this set, it appears that there is an alternate head type with is "recessed/closed" and not "blocked/open". Unless this variance should create no concern, a note should be made that this item contains a head variant. A note should also be made to col084, as the minifigure in 853600 could be confused with the original. Or, a new catalog entry should be made for the variant head.
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The new head should be added to the catalog first and can then be added as an
alternate to this magnet set.
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I've uploaded a face shot of this part. I have the "recessed" stud image,
but it replaces the face shot, so here is the stud image.
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Author: | Turez | Posted: | May 19, 2020 07:43 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6265-1 | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 2335 White Flag 2 x 2 Square (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part White 2335p04 Flag 2 x 2 Square with Imperial Soldier Black Symbol over White Cross on Blue Background Pattern {match ID 2 to 0}
Comments from Submitter:
The white flags were added as alternates because of the following change request:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=266509&nID=1191314
The submitter of that request now confirmed that the set with sticker sheet came with a printed small flag:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1197982
So I suggest to remove the plain white flag here since there is no evidence yet that it was ever inclueded in this set.
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Author: | Turez | Posted: | May 19, 2020 07:30 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | Viewed: | 19 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| my own item of this type.
|
By the way, does that mean you have an original copy of this set (i.e. you got
the set new and never mixed it with other parts)? If yes, could you check if
the parts
are the "c" type?
[p=32064c,3]
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Author: | Turez | Posted: | May 19, 2020 07:06 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {11 to 7} Part Red 3010 Brick 1 x 4
* Change {4 to 2} Part Red 3701 Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes
Comments from Submitter:
Checked with my own item of this type. But at these two position I have another qunantity as in the bricklink inventory. So I have checked the building instruction regadring these two item and so i have confirmed that the bricklink inventory have this two failures..
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4 1x4 bricks and 2 1x4 technic bricks are needed for a different arm attachment.
See instructions page 80:
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Author: | dromeracer | Posted: | May 19, 2020 06:12 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1 | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change {11 to 7} Part Red 3010 Brick 1 x 4
* Change {4 to 2} Part Red 3701 Technic, Brick 1 x 4 with Holes
Comments from Submitter:
Checked with my own item of this type. But at these two position I have another qunantity as in the bricklink inventory. So I have checked the building instruction regadring these two item and so i have confirmed that the bricklink inventory have this two failures..
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Author: | tatane79 | Posted: | May 19, 2020 04:35 | Subject: | Re: Some interface improvement proposals | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | |
2. In the orders, I would like to keep the ID# of each part. Currently,
only the name of the part is kept.
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+1
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Hi,
I've actually found a functionality already available in BrickLink interface
to add the part ID# to the orders:
On the "Order Placed" screen, "Settings" "My Orders Settings" / "Order Detail
Settings" / "Show Item Number" tickbox.
Cheers,
Jonathan.
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Author: | flheide | Posted: | May 19, 2020 04:08 | Subject: | Re: Parts with stickers on when parting out | Viewed: | 27 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, Quaysretire writes:
| I just parted out a used set, but I didn’t get the option to do the counterparts
with stickers, is that normal? So hence I feel like I have to go back through
and remove the items from the inventory and then readd them 1 by 1 with the new
part number with the sticker on. Painful
|
Did you find a way to fix this?
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Author: | jurcek | Posted: | May 19, 2020 01:40 | Subject: | Re: No Dimensions in Catalog | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| In Suggestions, SchmickBricks writes:
| Can we please have a function to search for items in our inventory with no catalog
dimensions? We already have one to search for weight, but not dimensions for
some strange reason.
I'm getting tired of bulky items sneaking through Instant checkout at letter
rates because they're missing catalog dimensions, and I have no way of finding
which items need me to manually enter their dimensions.
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The solution is already there for you. Be sure you have dimensions / weight turned
on for your store and then select the "Instant Checkout Unavailable" box in the
Show More Options section in your store inventory.
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Russell, how is it with dimensions of minifigures? I had often an order for 1
minifigure and the option Letter was offered at the instant checkout, because
there are no dimensions for them, and you can imagine, that you cannot send them
as letter, because they are to big for it. Any chance there will be a sollution
for this also, or do we have to put in the dimensions by ourselves?
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Author: | paulvdb | Posted: | May 18, 2020 23:26 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6391-1 | Viewed: | 22 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Red {4345 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 to 4345a Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs}
Comments from Submitter:
Checked in set in my personal collection that was bought new sealed and never mixed with parts from other sets.
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Hey Paul,
You bought this ultra rare set sealed?
How many years ago?
I assume you have the USA version of it.
Can you check these parts? It will help me for other inventories I am working
on:
1)
or
2)
or
3)
or
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Check the inventory change log for this set for my changes in December 2012.
I added the variants that I found in my set as alternates at that time. Not sure
when exactly I bought it but based on that request it was at least before December
2012.
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Author: | SezaR | Posted: | May 18, 2020 23:22 | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6391-1 | Viewed: | 21 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Red {4345 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 to 4345a Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs}
Comments from Submitter:
Checked in set in my personal collection that was bought new sealed and never mixed with parts from other sets.
|
Hey Paul,
You bought this ultra rare set sealed?
How many years ago?
I assume you have the USA version of it.
Can you check these parts? It will help me for other inventories I am working
on:
1)
or
2)
or
3)
or
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | May 18, 2020 16:56 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
| Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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I have parted this set out many times. I did find light gray pieces once.
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Author: | StormChaser | Posted: | May 18, 2020 16:48 | Subject: | Re: Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
| In Catalog Requests, xoshimin writes:
Your pictures would be extremely useful, but BrickLink has mangled them into
tiny and therefore unusable sizes. Do you have these uploaded somewhere that
we can access them in large sizes? If not, then can you do that?
Also, do we have your permission to use these photos as catalog images if we
need to?
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Author: | xoshimin | Posted: | May 18, 2020 16:42 | Subject: | Three versions of the 9797 set | Viewed: | 239 times | Topic: | Catalog Requests | For: | Inventories Administrator | Status: | Open | |
| Hi,
I apologize in advance for my English, it is translated by Google.
I bought and sorted 9797 sets a lot, so I have information about 9797 sets.
Lego released 3 versions of the set in 2006, 2009, and 2012. You can distinguish
the set versions by the LEGO copyright information on the boxes and paper sheets.
The first version of the set (2006) had the following differences:
1 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538b Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Ridged with x Hole x Orientation)
4716 Black Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Black Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
4019 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (First Version - 4 Round Holes)
32269 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
x1678 Dark Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, AC plug
The second version of the set (2009) had the following differences:
2 version of NXT - Complete Brick
6538c Black Technic, Axle Connector 2L (Smooth with x Hole + Orientation)
4716 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear Worm Screw, Long
6558 Blue Technic, Pin 3L with Friction Ridges Lengthwise
3647 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
94925 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 16 Tooth (Second Version - Reinforced)
32269 Tan Technic, Gear 20 Tooth Double Bevel
3648 Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Gear 24 Tooth (2nd Version - 1 Axle Hole)
87662c01 Very Light Bluish Gray Electric, Rechargeable Battery 7.4V - NXT, DC
plug
Add 55615 Light Bluish Gray Technic, Pin Connector Perpendicular 3 x 3 Bent with
4 Pins
Third version of the set (2012) had the following differences:
Removed x1676 Black Electric, Converter Cable, Mindstorms NXT 35cm
Removed 6035c01 White Electric, Light Brick 1 x 2 with Single Side Light (6034
/ 6035)
There are errors in inventory 9797, this set did not have details of color "Light
Gray".
I didn't track the differences in the parts of the minifigures.
Best regards
Alexei
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Author: | paulvdb | Posted: | May 18, 2020 14:03 | Subject: | Re: Part 4345a vs 4345 | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
| Part starts to consistently appear in sets from 1990, while
seem to appear in sets up to 1992. Is it not strange then, that the latter is
not found in these sets:
from 1985
from 1984
from 1985
All pictures that I have checked of set 6882 have solid studs, but none appear
to come from sealed sets.
/Jan
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I checked my set 6391 and it has 4345a. So that leaves only one of these sets
where we don't have the solid stud variant confirmed.
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Author: | paulvdb | Posted: | May 18, 2020 14:00 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6391-1 | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Red {4345 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 to 4345a Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs}
Comments from Submitter:
Checked in set in my personal collection that was bought new sealed and never mixed with parts from other sets.
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Author: | electricbaer | Posted: | May 18, 2020 13:20 | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4002-1 | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part bfloat1c01pb01 Black Boat Hull Unitary 24 x 6 x 3 with Red and White Racing Stripes Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 4002 (Counterpart)
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