BrickLink Discussion Forum

In Payment Methods, Adjour writes:

In Payment Methods, macebobo writes:

Has anyone gotten one of these before and how did you handle it. Stripe recommends
I refund to avoid the charge back fee, but I believe it is a valid charge, however,
this is a first for me and I would like to find out how others handled this situation.

Thanks,
John

Do the refund, let the customer know, so they can call their card company, and
then try again?

If its legit, they shouldn't mind doing this.

Crystal

I agree with Crystal. It has not happened to me (with PayPal at least) but that
is how I would handle it. I would rather lose the order then lose the money on
top of the Lego in the order if it is scam.

Jim

Author:

Adjour

Posted:

Feb 16, 2024 20:43

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Re: Stripe "Payment received an early fraud warni

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In Payment Methods, macebobo writes:

Do the refund, let the customer know, so they can call their card company, and
then try again?

If its legit, they shouldn't mind doing this.

Crystal

Author:

Yo_Yo_Flamingo

Posted:

Feb 16, 2024 18:33

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Re: Stripe "Payment received an early fraud warni

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

In Payment Methods, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:

In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

In Payment Methods, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:

In Payment Methods, macebobo writes:

Step 1:
Don't use Stripe

Step 2:
Use stripe

Step 3:
get a $20 chargeback fee even when they rule in your favor on a fraudulent chargeback.

Step 4:
realize that is a very rare case and that knowing Paypal they might do the same
but with stripe you can have a payment option that different customers can better
use increasing sales

Except paypal doesn't do the same. I understand the cost/risk ratio can make
it worth it, but Stripe just does not bring enough to the table to put up with
their BS

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Feb 16, 2024 17:18

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Re: Stripe "Payment received an early fraud warni

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In Payment Methods, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:

In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

In Payment Methods, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:

In Payment Methods, macebobo writes:

Step 1:
Don't use Stripe

Step 2:
Use stripe

Step 3:
get a $20 chargeback fee even when they rule in your favor on a fraudulent chargeback.

Step 4:
realize that is a very rare case and that knowing Paypal they might do the same
but with stripe you can have a payment option that different customers can better
use increasing sales

Author:

Yo_Yo_Flamingo

Posted:

Feb 16, 2024 17:02

Subject:

Re: Stripe "Payment received an early fraud warni

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

In Payment Methods, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:

In Payment Methods, macebobo writes:

Step 1:
Don't use Stripe

Step 2:
Use stripe

Step 3:
get a $20 chargeback fee even when they rule in your favor on a fraudulent chargeback.

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Feb 16, 2024 16:42

Subject:

Re: Stripe "Payment received an early fraud warni

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In Payment Methods, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:

In Payment Methods, macebobo writes:

Step 1:
Don't use Stripe

Step 2:
Use stripe

Author:

Yo_Yo_Flamingo

Posted:

Feb 16, 2024 16:25

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Re: Stripe "Payment received an early fraud warni

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In Payment Methods, macebobo writes:

Step 1:
Don't use Stripe

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Feb 16, 2024 15:34

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Re: Stripe "Payment received an early fraud warni

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Interesting. I’ve never gotten one before but I’d contact the customer. Stripe
dosnt give those out randomly so id take it very seriously

Author:

macebobo

Posted:

Feb 16, 2024 15:31

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Stripe "Payment received an early fraud warni

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Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Feb 10, 2024 21:59

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Re: Paypal Question

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for me, it took awhile to fully verify it (they kept asking for a certain document
which i kept sending but they kept rejecting until 1 day they accepted it after
like 15 attempts) so id just keep doing it but if it goes on for more then say
3 months then call them to figure it out

Author:

southga.bricks

Posted:

Feb 10, 2024 21:47

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Paypal Question

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I am new to Bricklink as a seller. My store has been open for about a month.
I have had to verify my Paypal account twice with them. I can understand the
first time but the second time seemed to be a little extra. Does anyone know
if this is an ongoing thing with Paypal? I asked them if I was expected to verify
the account every 3 weeks and gat a generic response that did not answer my question.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 30, 2024 11:25

Subject:

Re: IBAN betaling toe voegen

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In Payment Methods, Gertjam820 writes:

Bedank voor je antwoord dat heb ik wel.heb dat al geprobeerd alleen ik krijg
geen antwoord op mijn vraag maar ga nogmaals proberen

Help desk isn’t very quick to answer at the moment (2-4 weeks instead of 2-3
days).

Author:

Gertjam820

Posted:

Jan 30, 2024 11:20

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Re: IBAN betaling toe voegen

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Bedank voor je antwoord dat heb ik wel.heb dat al geprobeerd alleen ik krijg
geen antwoord op mijn vraag maar ga nogmaals proberen

In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

In Payment Methods, Gertjam820 writes:

Wie kan mij vertellen hoe ik IBAN betaling toe kan voegen aan winkel
Krijg veel vragen maar ik weet niet hoe ik dat kan doen.

Hi,

As said in the help page, https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=18 , you
need to have 10 positive selling feedbacks and 3 months of selling experience,
and then you need to contact Help Desk (https://www.bricklink.com/helpDesk.asp
) to have the option available in your store.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 30, 2024 11:16

Subject:

Re: IBAN betaling toe voegen

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In Payment Methods, Gertjam820 writes:

Wie kan mij vertellen hoe ik IBAN betaling toe kan voegen aan winkel
Krijg veel vragen maar ik weet niet hoe ik dat kan doen.

Author:

Gertjam820

Posted:

Jan 30, 2024 11:10

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IBAN betaling toe voegen

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Wie kan mij vertellen hoe ik IBAN betaling toe kan voegen aan winkel
Krijg veel vragen maar ik weet niet hoe ik dat kan doen.

Author:

Nino_Bricks

Posted:

Jan 28, 2024 22:59

Subject:

Re: IBAN Payments ... Where to put the choice?

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Thank you Ghyde, I will check that

Author:

ghyde

Posted:

Jan 28, 2024 17:35

Subject:

Re: IBAN Payments ... Where to put the choice?

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In Payment Methods, Nino_Bricks writes:

Hello to all members,

I wonder where I can put my IBAN details and mainly the choice between paypal
and IBAN is not well indicated.
If someone know something to how I manage that in my settings

Thank you in advance.
Gerald

If BrickLink has to collect EU VAT or taxes from the order, then it must be paid
via PayPal Onsite or Stripe. This is because BrickLink is now a marketplace and
it is a legal requirement that BrickLink collects the required VAT or taxes and
remits them to the appropriate authority.

You should evaluate your situation as to whether taxes must be paid. You would
need to know in which cases BrickLink would have to collect VAT or taxes and
ensure that all such cases are handled through PayPal Onsite or Stripe.

Cheers ...

ghyde

Author:

Nino_Bricks

Posted:

Jan 28, 2024 15:34

Subject:

IBAN Payments ... Where to put the choice?

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Hello to all members,

I wonder where I can put my IBAN details and mainly the choice between paypal
and IBAN is not well indicated.
If someone know something to how I manage that in my settings

Thank you in advance.
Gerald

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 26, 2024 07:52

Subject:

Re: AFTERPAY

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In Payment Methods, LEGOMANADAM writes:

Is there a way to search sellers on Bricklink who accept after pay as a payment
method.

Hi,

No.
You can search by payment method (here: https://www.bricklink.com/storeFilter.asp
, bottom right), but:
1. Afterpay isn’t one of the “officially” recognized payment methods on BL (=
not on the list).
2. This list is useless. It’s a remnant of the olden times. Only pre-2017 stores
could use these payment methods, and the list is full of doublets and confusing
entries.

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 26, 2024 05:22

Subject:

Re: Issues with checkout

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The seller needs to check their settings for payments. Try paying them direct
maybe.

Don't do this if any sales tax or VAT is due.

Author:

LEGOMANADAM

Posted:

Jan 26, 2024 05:03

Subject:

Re: Issues with checkout

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In Payment Methods, Creeper_Me writes:

What does 'This store didn’t select any payment methods accepted for domestic
buyers.' mean? It's preventing me from checking out and I don't know
what to do.

It's the only store that sells the brick I need btw.

The seller needs to check their settings for payments. Try paying them direct
maybe.

Author:

LEGOMANADAM

Posted:

Jan 26, 2024 05:00

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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In Payment Methods, LEGOMANADAM writes: There is a way that a person can pay
by PayPal and the receiver has not received it. Check the email address you are
using for bricklink and compare it to you PayPal account email address. If the
email in your Bricklink is not in your PayPal account, you will not receive the
money until you add the email address from bricklink to your PayPal account.

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Hi everyone,

I'm really in need of help. I've tried reaching out to admin for the
past week but haven't heard anything. I am new to BrickLink and I am very
excited to be part of the community. I opened a store in November/ December and
set everything up according to the guided instructions.

I sold a few sets to 2 different clients with the same result: the system worked
fine in advising me of interest, the invoicing, the progress report and payment.
Except: that I don't actually know where the money went. I can't see
it in the account I connected my store to, nor PayPal, nor Stripe.

My clients confirmed that payment was made through the platform and that their
records show payment as 'PayPal'. I contacted PayPal and Stripe (just
in case) and neither has a record of my store being actively connected to their
services.

I would love to check the settings and parameters for payment in BrickLink but
it doesn't seem that this is possible. I don't want to disconnect the
method of payment in case I lose the ability to claim the money sent.

Help! I can't sell anymore until this if fixed. Thank you in advance to the
community

Author:

LEGOMANADAM

Posted:

Jan 26, 2024 04:56

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Author:

LEGOMANADAM

Posted:

Jan 26, 2024 04:35

Subject:

AFTERPAY

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Is there a way to search sellers on Bricklink who accept after pay as a payment
method.

Author:

tec

Posted:

Jan 24, 2024 14:55

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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He actually said they do not match, isn't this the problem?

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 21:08

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Stressful memories I bet! How do I know which account I need to create then?

indeed but good times in hindsight. as for how to know you'd have to somehow
see which email you somehow connected (if this specific problem is indeed the
case)

Author:

Bluenose2021

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 20:08

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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Thank you Crystal, it is somewhat reassuring to read that others have experienced
this. I'm hoping that this is the case. I'm hoping that someone from
BrickLink might help me with confirming the configuration and then, take it from
there. I'll probably have to be patient but won't be keen on selling
until this is clarified.

In Payment Methods, Adjour writes:

If your paypal account is new, they hold your money for something like 21 days
or so IIRC.

Also recently I had two of my paypal payments from Canada to the USA held, for
no good reason I could ever figure out except they both came from Canada. I waited
it out to see what would happen and it was over a month.

That said, you'd see it in your balance, but just be unable to use or withdraw
it.

This is a common question from new PP users. Chances are funds are simply being
held, not missing.

Crystal

Author:

Bluenose2021

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 20:06

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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I do wonder, I've sent 2 messages to the help desk in the past week, hope
that I'll get some guidance soon, Christophe

In Payment Methods, jennnifer writes:

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Hi Jennifer, thank you for this. No the numbers are different and neither stripe
nor PayPal could recognize the merchant number.

Is there no possibility that you accidentally set up your Paypal account with
a different email or a typo?

I would contact BrickLink Help Desk and see if they can help.

~Jen

In Payment Methods, jennnifer writes:

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Check your Merchant ID number on your BrickLink store settings page.

Check your Merchant ID number on your Paypal account profile page.

Are they the same?

~Jen

Author:

Bluenose2021

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 20:05

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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Stressful memories I bet! How do I know which account I need to create then?

In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

In Payment Methods, peregrinator writes:

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Hi Jennifer, thank you for this. No the numbers are different and neither stripe
nor PayPal could recognize the merchant number.

OK, what may have happened is that the money left the buyers' accounts but
hasn't actually gotten anywhere (yet?) and may ultimately be returned to
their accounts. I know this happens when a buyer sends payment to an e-mail address
that doesn't exist in PP.

Bringing back memories. When I first started selling on eBay years ago I had
I set up wrong and have several payments go to a PayPal account that didn’t exist.
So I created said PayPal account and the money was in it. So that might be where
the money is

Author:

Bluenose2021

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 20:03

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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Thanks for this, no icon so no details...

In Payment Methods, bricks2you writes:

Be sure there isn’t a little icon in the paid box. If so click it for an explanation

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Author:

Adjour

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 17:20

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 17:02

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Hi Jennifer, thank you for this. No the numbers are different and neither stripe
nor PayPal could recognize the merchant number.

Is there no possibility that you accidentally set up your Paypal account with
a different email or a typo?

I would contact BrickLink Help Desk and see if they can help.

~Jen

In Payment Methods, jennnifer writes:

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Check your Merchant ID number on your BrickLink store settings page.

Check your Merchant ID number on your Paypal account profile page.

Are they the same?

~Jen

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 13:19

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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In Payment Methods, peregrinator writes:

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Hi Jennifer, thank you for this. No the numbers are different and neither stripe
nor PayPal could recognize the merchant number.

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 13:17

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Hi Jennifer, thank you for this. No the numbers are different and neither stripe
nor PayPal could recognize the merchant number.

Author:

Bluenose2021

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 12:55

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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Hi Jennifer, thank you for this. No the numbers are different and neither stripe
nor PayPal could recognize the merchant number.

In Payment Methods, jennnifer writes:

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Check your Merchant ID number on your BrickLink store settings page.

Check your Merchant ID number on your Paypal account profile page.

Are they the same?

~Jen

Author:

bricks2you

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 10:37

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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Be sure there isn’t a little icon in the paid box. If so click it for an explanation

In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 10:33

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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In Payment Methods, Bluenose2021 writes:

Check your Merchant ID number on your BrickLink store settings page.

Check your Merchant ID number on your Paypal account profile page.

Are they the same?

~Jen

Author:

1001bricks

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 10:14

Subject:

Re: Customers paid, money never received!

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My clients confirmed that payment was made through the platform and that their
records show payment as 'PayPal'. I contacted PayPal and Stripe (just
in case) and neither has a record of my store being actively connected to their
services.

There's no bug I know of regarding "paid" but not...

1) Check your PayPal account, if it's not there it's not paid.

2) Ask buyer the PayPal transaction ID, and / or screen copy or email transferred
for the said payment. Search ID in PayPal.

If not, then they didn't pay, or didn't pay you.
But I don't think there's a bug there.

Author:

Bluenose2021

Posted:

Jan 23, 2024 10:04

Subject:

Customers paid, money never received!

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Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Jan 22, 2024 00:27

Subject:

Re: How to get Bricklink Order Number to show

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In Payment Methods, _Brick_Slayer_ writes:

I am wondering if there is a way to get the Bricklink order number to show up
on the paypal transaction.

It’s in the merchant order id

Right now it just says "Bricklink Order" If
it was possible to add the order number then I can get it to print on the shipping
label automatically.

(Not sure it helps for that sorry)

Author:

_Brick_Slayer_

Posted:

Jan 21, 2024 15:00

Subject:

How to get Bricklink Order Number to show

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I am wondering if there is a way to get the Bricklink order number to show up
on the paypal transaction. Right now it just says "Bricklink Order" If
it was possible to add the order number then I can get it to print on the shipping
label automatically.

Author:

brickstopia

Posted:

Jan 13, 2024 10:21

Subject:

Re: How long does it take to credit payment

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Thank you!

In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

In Payment Methods, brickstopia writes:

How long does it take to credit payment into seller's stripe account?
Pardon my ignorance, I am newbie.
Thank you!

If YOU paid with it it marks the orders as paid within a few minutes (usually
less) but if you SOMEONE paid you it takes like 3 or so days before they send
it along to your bank but in general it’s less then a week before it shows up
on your bank (new accounts might take longer when first starting)

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Jan 12, 2024 23:31

Subject:

Re: How long does it take to credit payment

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In Payment Methods, brickstopia writes:

How long does it take to credit payment into seller's stripe account?
Pardon my ignorance, I am newbie.
Thank you!

Author:

brickstopia

Posted:

Jan 12, 2024 23:27

Subject:

How long does it take to credit payment

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How long does it take to credit payment into seller's stripe account?
Pardon my ignorance, I am newbie.
Thank you!

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Jan 8, 2024 16:20

Subject:

Re: Issues with checkout

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look at the payment policy on their terms. it sounds like they may not have one
set up for domestic buyers. if this is the case you can message them and ask
them to add it

Author:

Creeper_Me

Posted:

Jan 8, 2024 16:19

Subject:

Issues with checkout

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Author:

brickmovnmama

Posted:

Jan 5, 2024 22:18

Subject:

Re: PayPal

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In Payment Methods, yorbrick writes:

Have you responded to the complaint via PayPal?

I was never informed by PayPal that there was an open complaint. I was just
"shut down" by PayPal, can't use it for deposits, withdrawals, nothing,
had to close store.
My store policy is if there are issues with the order, I refund the money immediately,
don't even expect them to go thru PayPal. PayPal doesn't say much, just
shut me down.

That sounds like a much more serious issue than one complaint. Have you had multiple
claims made against you in the past, or one upheld after you cleared out the
account?

To my knowledge, I have not had any claims made against me in the past. My store
policy is to instantly refund the amount for any Lego pieces that the customer
is not satisfied with. I have not expected the customer to go thru PayPal. I
have never been informed by PayPal of any open claims.

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 5, 2024 16:49

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Re: PayPal

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Have you responded to the complaint via PayPal?

That sounds like a much more serious issue than one complaint. Have you had multiple
claims made against you in the past, or one upheld after you cleared out the
account?

Author:

brickmovnmama

Posted:

Jan 5, 2024 11:40

Subject:

Re: PayPal

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In Payment Methods, zorbanj writes:

No one here can help you, you'll have to reach out to PayPal directly. I
would call them asap.

Thanks for advice. Did call them, told me it will take "3-5 business days
to review".

In Payment Methods, brickmovnmama writes:

Author:

zorbanj

Posted:

Jan 5, 2024 11:36

Subject:

Re: PayPal

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No one here can help you, you'll have to reach out to PayPal directly. I
would call them asap.

In Payment Methods, brickmovnmama writes:

Author:

brickmovnmama

Posted:

Jan 5, 2024 11:06

Subject:

Re: PayPal

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In Payment Methods, yorbrick writes:

In Payment Methods, brickmovnmama writes:

Is anyone having trouble with PayPal? Have locked me down as say buyers have
complained. Have refunded buyers missing/defective parts with shipping. Can
buyers still complain to PayPal?

Of course buyers can complain to PayPal if they paid that way. If there is an
open complaint then PayPal can withhold funds from you meaning that you cannot
withdraw them until the complaint is resolved.

Have you responded to the complaint via PayPal?

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 5, 2024 09:58

Subject:

Re: PayPal

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In Payment Methods, brickmovnmama writes:

Is anyone having trouble with PayPal? Have locked me down as say buyers have
complained. Have refunded buyers missing/defective parts with shipping. Can
buyers still complain to PayPal?

Author:

brickmovnmama

Posted:

Jan 5, 2024 09:10

Subject:

PayPal

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Is anyone having trouble with PayPal? Have locked me down as say buyers have
complained. Have refunded buyers missing/defective parts with shipping. Can
buyers still complain to PayPal?
BrickmovnMama

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Dec 25, 2023 12:07

Subject:

Re: Cant pay with Goods and Services

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The order has now been canceled by the seller after I filled an OCR. They never
responded to any messages but at least it’s canceled

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Dec 25, 2023 00:07

Subject:

Re: Cant pay with Goods and Services

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Unfortunately I don’t have a credit card yet 😅 the plan is to get one once I’m
debt free so I havnt gotten one yet. But yah I’m for sure not going to go thru
unless I can pay normally.

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Dec 24, 2023 00:29

Subject:

Re: Cant pay with Goods and Services

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Use family/friend option for this transfer" which I usually ignore but for
some reason whenever I go to pay (since its not onsite) it only lets me pay via
friends and family which I won't do as I have 0 protection...

That is not necessarily correct depending on how you initiate the payment. If
you pay by credit card through paypal, then you still have protection through
your credit card company. The seller has no seller protection whatsoever, as
it was not a business transaction and so no goods were exchanged for money. In
that case, you have protection and the seller (as your friend) has none.

There is a scam on PayPal based on it where an unknown person makes a F&F payment
to a random person, then contacts them to ask for it back but says PayPal is
blocking their account due to the mistake, so instead could they refund through
bank transfer. As soon as they get the refund, they claim credit card fraud and
the F&F payment gets reversed as there was no business transaction, just a payment
between known friends. An alternative version is using a stolen card, where again
the seller loses once the card holder realises. The person sending the bank transfer
thinks they are safe as it was a F&F transaction that cannot be reversed (when
reality is it can).

This is from their terms ...

Ineligible Items and Transactions

The following items or transactions are not eligible for PayPal Seller Protection:
:
:
Personal payments including a payment sent using PayPal's friend and family
functionality.
:

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Dec 23, 2023 20:01

Subject:

Re: Cant pay with Goods and Services

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In Payment Methods, wildchicken13 writes:

In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

I believe humor has an amazing ability to alleviate emotional suffering and by
extension, even physical pain. But does nothing to assuage the suffering of others
unless they share in the humor being expressed. In other words, this humor is
at the expense of those that suffer.

Indeed, my impression of Ukrainians is that they are a strong, serious nation.
But, then again, much of what is true of Ukraine is also true of Russia

Well stated.

Author:

wildchicken13

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Dec 23, 2023 19:58

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In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

Indeed, my impression of Ukrainians is that they are a strong, serious nation.
But, then again, much of what is true of Ukraine is also true of Russia

Author:

popsicle

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Dec 23, 2023 19:43

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In Payment Methods, wildchicken13 writes:

In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

It's good you all can find some humor in this. I somehow can't quite
get there, knowing of the unimaginable suffering the people of Ukraine are living
through as we speak.

Almost envy the ability you guys have to do so.

Viktor Frankl said humor helps people survive suffering

Author:

wildchicken13

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Dec 23, 2023 19:25

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In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

Viktor Frankl said humor helps people survive suffering

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Dec 23, 2023 19:01

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In Payment Methods, 1001bricks writes:

its mostly dutch quite far back (although my mom is adopted so that side
is a mystery

)

Very kind from you to have adopted your mom!

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popsicle

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Dec 23, 2023 18:34

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

In Payment Methods, wildchicken13 writes:

In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

But what about “Never do business with familly”?

But it's not business if you pay with PayPal Friends & Family…

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1001bricks

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Dec 23, 2023 18:31

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its mostly dutch quite far back (although my mom is adopted so that side
is a mystery

)

Very kind from you to have adopted your mom!

Author:

wildchicken13

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Dec 23, 2023 18:30

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

my mom is adopted

Ти точно українець!!!!!!!! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

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1001bricks

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Dec 23, 2023 18:26

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Now, maybe you can look into your genealogic tree and see if the seller is not
actually familly?

Or an ex-loved people, only Nubs knows?

Author:

Nubs_Select

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Dec 23, 2023 18:26

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In Payment Methods, wildchicken13 writes:

In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

But what about “Never do business with familly”?

But it's not business if you pay with PayPal Friends & Family…

Author:

Nubs_Select

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Dec 23, 2023 18:26

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In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

no worries I havnt reported yet

but looking at that its description is "As
of March 17, 2022, we've expanded our services for Ukrainian customers in
Ukraine. * To support Ukrainians at this critical time, we're providing more
ways to send and receive money quickly and securely between friends, family,
and loved ones." and the seller is not "friends, family, or loved ones"
and this is a business transaction so I still cant pay with it

Yeah, I was reading their press release too: they don’t talk about business transactions.

But that explains how the seller managed to have only FF: they didn’t, it’s PayPal
who did

Now, maybe you can look into your genealogic tree and see if the seller is not
actually family?

its mostly dutch quite far back (although my mom is adopted so that side
is a mystery

)

Author:

wildchicken13

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Dec 23, 2023 18:22

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In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

But what about “Never do business with familly”?

But it's not business if you pay with PayPal Friends & Family…

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Dec 23, 2023 18:21

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In Payment Methods, wildchicken13 writes:

In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

the seller is not "friends, family, or loved ones"

But, in these critical times, aren't all Ukrainians our friends and family?

But what about “Never do business with familly”?

Author:

wildchicken13

Posted:

Dec 23, 2023 18:21

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In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

Now, maybe you can look into your genealogical tree and see if the seller is not actually family?

Technically speaking isn't everyone family? Now I can avoid PayPal fees

Author:

wildchicken13

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Dec 23, 2023 18:18

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

the seller is not "friends, family, or loved ones"

But, in these critical times, aren't all Ukrainians our friends and family?

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Dec 23, 2023 18:16

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

no worries I havnt reported yet

Yeah, I was reading their press release too: they don’t talk about business transactions.

But that explains how the seller managed to have only FF: they didn’t, it’s PayPal
who did

Now, maybe you can look into your genealogic tree and see if the seller is not
actually familly?

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wildchicken13

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Dec 23, 2023 18:10

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In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

It is...

PayPal rather than excluding Ukraine from services due to contractural reason
during these times

has implemented what is called "Expansion of Services"
to Ukrainian users to what we know as "Family and Friends" PayPal service.

In other words, slow down on that reporting. Look into it first.

-popsicle

So it's okay to pay via PayPal Friends & Family if the seller is in Ukraine?

Author:

Nubs_Select

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Dec 23, 2023 18:10

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no worries I havnt reported yet

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popsicle

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Dec 23, 2023 18:01

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

I am trying to place an order on bricklink and in the invoice it says "For
PayPal payment:
Use family/friend option for this transfer" which I usually ignore but for
some reason whenever I go to pay (since its not onsite) it only lets me pay via
friends and family which I won't do as I have 0 protection (and it's
against Paypal TOS) so my question is what should I do.

for reference the store is from the Ukraine so I'm not sure if that has something to do with it

It is...

PayPal rather than excluding Ukraine from services due to contractural reason
during these times

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SylvainLS

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Dec 23, 2023 17:45

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

[…]
how would i go about reporting them to bricklink (dont feel like getting into
a Paypal mess right now)

Report member: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp

Yes, its descriptions says “non-transactional” but that’s where you go when you
suspect fraud.

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Nubs_Select

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Dec 23, 2023 17:40

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In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

Good call

so my question is what should I do. for reference the store
is from the Ukraine so I'm not sure if that has something to do with it

Smells fishy.

And there’s no sanctions against Ukraine. Besides, if there were, I think everything
would be blocked.

I would report the store to BL and/or PP.

how would i go about reporting them to bricklink (dont feel like getting into
a Paypal mess right now)

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SylvainLS

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Dec 23, 2023 17:33

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In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

Good call

so my question is what should I do. for reference the store
is from the Ukraine so I'm not sure if that has something to do with it

Smells fishy.

And there’s no sanctions against Ukraine. Besides, if there were, I think everything
would be blocked.

I would report the store to BL and/or PP.

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Nubs_Select

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Dec 23, 2023 17:24

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peregrinator

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Dec 15, 2023 18:54

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Re: PayPal "Goods & Services"

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In Payment Methods, dannyboy2929 writes:

How does PayPal Goods & Services differ from simply paying via PayPal? It appears
PP holds the money until the product is delivered? Correct? Isn't the buyer
automatically protected when they purchase through BL without needing PP G&S?

PayPal doesn't hold the money. "Goods & Services" is just paying
by PayPal as opposed to sending money "Friends & Family"

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dannyboy2929

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Dec 15, 2023 18:42

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PayPal "Goods & Services"

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pashah

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Nov 20, 2023 08:52

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In Payment Methods, Aksoy43 writes:

I want to buy the missing parts of my children's sets from your website.
However, sellers require PayPal payment. Since there is no PayPal Türkiye support,
sellers are canceling my orders. I request your help and wish you good work.

There is no automatic VAT collection by BrickLink for shipments to Turkiye so
any seller willing to accept an offsite payment (bank transfer, IBAN) should
be able to take your order. Our store, for example, does not specify bank transfer
or IBAN as payment options for international buyers but we can make arrangements
with buyers as long as they are not located in the USA/EU/Australia (countries/areas
for which BrickLink collects sales tax).

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Brick_Qc

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Nov 20, 2023 08:14

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In Payment Methods, Aksoy43 writes:

You'll have to find stores that accept Iban and pay that way.

Author:

Aksoy43

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Nov 20, 2023 07:08

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Türkiye PayPal payment is closed

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kittybrickz

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Nov 8, 2023 22:22

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Thank you so much for taking the time to respond! I really appreciate it!

Have an epic day!

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Emporiosa

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Nov 8, 2023 20:51

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In Payment Methods, kittybrickz writes:

Hello!

I have a customer that paid with etransfer, and have shipped the item but I'm
not able to progress the order status, I think there is a setting that changed
when BL was down, or I'm missing something? Or is it up to the customer to
progress the paid status?

Also, I had an international buyer pay by paypal when BL was down, and there
seems to be no option to progress the status either.

Thank you for your expertise in this matter!

You need to put in a ticket with the support desk to have Interac E-transfer
added to your account (there's a certain about of time that you need on the
platform for them to process it). You should still be able to update it in BL
though. Try setting it first to Paid, and then to Shipped.

For the international order, if there was a tax part, you'll need to refund
them and have them pay again via the onsite payment button. After that you'll
be able to set it to shipped.

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kittybrickz

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Nov 8, 2023 19:42

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Nomohawkie

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Nov 1, 2023 16:36

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Re: How to set default to send invoice?

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In Payment Methods, jennnifer writes:

In Payment Methods, Nomohawkie writes:

Hi all,

I've opened a store to sell old lego sets of mine, and I can't seem to
find the option to send an invoice prior to payment, instead of instant checkout.
A store I've bought from does it that way (it seems easiest to calculate
shipping costs on the fly), and I'm still learning the cost management for
shipping process. Any insight would be very helpful. Thanks in advance, - Nick

My Store, Settings, Shipping:

Select each of your shipping methods and change the Invoicing from Automated
to Manual.

~Jen

Ok I found it, thanks so much Jen, I appreciate it!

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jennnifer

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Nov 1, 2023 16:05

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In Payment Methods, Nomohawkie writes:

My Store, Settings, Shipping:

Select each of your shipping methods and change the Invoicing from Automated
to Manual.

~Jen

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Nomohawkie

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Nov 1, 2023 14:32

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How to set default to send invoice?

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BRICKSnPARTS

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Oct 18, 2023 16:26

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Alternative payment methods other than PayPal

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Hi peeps. I’ve been using PayPal for a long time as well as Stripe. What other
payment methods are reliable and safe to use?
Thanks

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SylvainLS

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Oct 2, 2023 13:43

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In Payment Methods, Dannakyri writes:

Anyone else having an issue where you input your address at checkout and pay
with paypal and paypal sends the seller a completely different address? I have
had this happen on 4 different orders. Paypal fixed it the first time and the
next order a whole different random address was sent to the seller. this is causing
issues for sellers who have a policy that is to only ship to the paypal address.
I have had 2 packages end up at a bank in CT. It only seems to be happening when
I order things through bricklink.

Hi,

There’s been a couple of people who got the wrong address but it was one of theirs,
an old one, not a totally random one from a different state

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Dannakyri

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Oct 2, 2023 13:10

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Play_It_Again

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Sep 30, 2023 22:24

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That is exactly my percentage for the year. 113 out of 794 orders for 14.23%
If I didn't have it enabled I'm sure there is some percentage of those
113 orders that would refuse to use PayPal and I'd miss the sale.

In Payment Methods, Nubs_Select writes:

it certainly dosnt hurt

about 14% (if i did the math right) of my orders are
paid with stripe

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BrickDeals

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Sep 30, 2023 21:08

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In Payment Methods, Clicknbrick2023 writes:

Hello everyone

Is adding Credit/Debit (Powered by Stripe) worth adding as a payment option?

I used Stripe for a year, but switched it off for a few reasons.

1.) Paypal is much better at getting buyers to enter correctly formatted shipping
addresses. So I don't have to try and guess the correct shipping address
or email the buyer.

2.) Makes filing taxes more complicated.

3.) Stripe doesn't integrate with my shipping software.

Stripe is certainly worth it if you are a full-time Bricklink seller.

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1001bricks

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Sep 30, 2023 09:13

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— et le vendeur risque d’être banni de PayPal.

A noter à ce sujet, ce n'est pas à prendre à la légère.
PayPal ayant toutes les informations sur l'utilisateur, un banissement peut
être *à vie* (et donc dans tous les pays où il décide d'habiter) s'ils
le décident.

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BBryan83390

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Sep 30, 2023 05:05

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A oui, merci
D'accord je trouvai juste l'utilisation de paypal entre proche plus rapide
que par virement bancaire qui peu parfois mettre 3-4 jours

In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

In Payment Methods, BBryan83390 writes:

OK thanks its what i expected, so BL cant collected there 3% tax with of site
payment ?(hand delivery, Paypal friends family and Iban ?

Non, les 3% de BL ne sont pas une taxe (tax) mais une commission (fee). Et les
commissions sont facturées chaque mois et indépendantes du paiement de chaque
transaction.

Quand je parle de taxes, je parle de :
— la TVA d’importation au Royaume Uni (acheteur GB, vendeur non-GB),
— la GST d’importation en Australie (acheteur AU, vendeur non-AU),
— les sales taxes aux USA (acheteur US, vendeur n’importe où),
— la TVA d’importation en UE (acheteur UE, vendeur non-UE),
que BrickLink est maintenant (2020-) obligé de collecter à l’achat.
(La taxe est collectée auprès de l’acheteur, mais apparaît quand même dans la
transaction.)

Puisque tu as fait une collecte en main propre, la vente a dû se passer en France,
donc probablement pas avec un acheteur GB, US ou AU, donc sans qu’il y ait une
taxe à collecter par BrickLink.

Et, dernière remarque, ne jamais utiliser PayPal « friends and family », c’est
interdit par les termes de PayPal pour les achats (même entre « amis ») et :
— l’acheteur perd sa protection,
— le vendeur perd sa protection (le peu qu’il a),
— et le vendeur risque d’être banni de PayPal.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Sep 30, 2023 03:22

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In Payment Methods, BBryan83390 writes:

OK thanks its what i expected, so BL cant collected there 3% tax with of site
payment ?(hand delivery, Paypal friends family and Iban ?

Author:

BBryan83390

Posted:

Sep 30, 2023 02:49

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OK thanks its what i expected, so BL cant collected there 3% tax with of site
payment ?(hand delivery, Paypal friends family and Iban ?

In Payment Methods, SylvainLS writes:

In Payment Methods, BBryan83390 writes:

Hi,

[…]
So i can't pass the order directly to completed :/ you have solution for
it ?

“It’s complicated.”
I guess that, as it was picked up, there was no taxes for BL to collect, so at
least it was legal

But on the other hand, as a new seller, BL limits you to Onsite payment methods
(and even later, you’ll only be able to add bank transfer (“IBAN”)), and you
bypassed that.

Anyway, I think only the Help Desk¹ can help you with the order status.

And next question the offsite payment way appears automatically when i have 10
positive feedback and 3month selling ?? Or should i contact support ?

You’ll have to ask¹ for it.

———
¹ You can contact the Help Desk here: https://www.bricklink.com/v3/help/contact.page
or here: https://helpdesk.bricklink.com/Main/ (you need to re-register with the
same address than on the main site).
The second site allows to follow your tickets (even if opened the other way).
(Note that the tickets are shown as “closed” as soon as they get an answer.
That doesn’t mean they are closed / dismissed / rejected / …. It’s just how
the UI works.)

Author:

SylvainLS

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Sep 29, 2023 16:44

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