Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | oukexergon  | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2024 10:21 | | Subject: | Re: Trans neon green goblet | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, robertomcevoya writes:
| | Thanks guys
But I can't find this in the BrickLink catalogue.
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Are you sure it's not a knock-off?
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| Author: | robertomcevoya | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2024 10:17 | | Subject: | Trans neon green goblet | | Viewed: | 134 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| Thanks guys
But I can't find this in the BrickLink catalogue.
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Feb 29, 2024 23:49 | | Subject: | Re: silver metalic, vs silver ink lego color name | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, danielclark writes:
| | Official Lego color name confusion. What colors do silver ink, and silver metallic,
correspond to in bricklink colors?
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LEGO 315 Silver Metallic = BL Flat Silver
LEGO 336 Silver Ink = BL Metallic Silver
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| Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Feb 29, 2024 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: silver metalic, vs silver ink lego color name | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, danielclark writes:
| | Official Lego color name confusion. What colors do silver ink, and silver metallic,
correspond to in bricklink colors?
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Silver Metallic (TLC color #315) = Flat Silver (BL color #95)
I'm not sure on the other one.
David
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| Author: | danielclark | | Posted: | Feb 29, 2024 23:26 | | Subject: | silver metalic, vs silver ink lego color name | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| Official Lego color name confusion. What colors do silver ink, and silver metallic,
correspond to in bricklink colors?
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| Author: | choybrick | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2024 12:54 | | Subject: | Re: Trans neon green or trans neon yellow? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, randyf writes:
| | In Colors, choybrick writes:
| | In Colors, leggodtshop writes:
| | How to tell which is which?
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Good morning. despite having read your posts, I still cannot differentiate between
these 3 colors, could you tell me who and what please?
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From left to right in your second image: Trans-Yellow, Trans-Bright Green, and
Trans-Neon Green.
Cheers,
Randy
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ok. thx for your help 
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2024 11:47 | | Subject: | Re: Trans neon green or trans neon yellow? | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, choybrick writes:
| | In Colors, leggodtshop writes:
| | How to tell which is which?
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Good morning. despite having read your posts, I still cannot differentiate between
these 3 colors, could you tell me who and what please?
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From left to right in your second image: Trans-Yellow, Trans-Bright Green, and
Trans-Neon Green.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | choybrick | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2024 11:10 | | Subject: | Re: Trans neon green or trans neon yellow? | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, leggodtshop writes:
| | How to tell which is which?
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Good morning. despite having read your posts, I still cannot differentiate between
these 3 colors, could you tell me who and what please?
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| Author: | yoavheskia | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 10:44 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Color | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
It seems to be very beautiful color.
I hope Lego will release also 3062 without print
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2024 04:20 | | Subject: | Re: Another New Color | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
I saw the pending image for this part on BrickLink yesterday. It's absolutely
beautiful. I love how it kind of looks like the old Trans-Neon Yellow (157 Transparent
Fluorescent Yellow).
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 19:29 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | In Colors, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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Once you compare them side by side, like the one shown in the link posted by
1001bricks, you can see that old trans brown is very accurate.
Jim
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I have looked at them side by side, and I agree there is a difference, as previously
noted. I do not agree, however, that brown is an accurate description.
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Freaking daltonics
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| Author: | mwright5 | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 19:19 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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Once you compare them side by side, like the one shown in the link posted by
1001bricks, you can see that old trans brown is very accurate.
Jim
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I have looked at them side by side, and I agree there is a difference, as previously
noted. I do not agree, however, that brown is an accurate description.
pbbbbbbtssss!!!! Raspberry to all of you.
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| Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 22:30 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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Once you compare them side by side, like the one shown in the link posted by
1001bricks, you can see that old trans brown is very accurate.
Jim
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 21:22 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Colors, randyf writes:
| | In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1402419
This has been in place for quite a while now, and the entire membership was notified
through email last year when the change took place. Have you been away for a
while?
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What? Which change? When?
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Nice picture of a black bear
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No, Brown!
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 21:17 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Colors, randyf writes:
| | In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1402419
This has been in place for quite a while now, and the entire membership was notified
through email last year when the change took place. Have you been away for a
while?
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What? Which change? When?
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Nice picture of a black bear
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 18:27 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, randyf writes:
| | In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1402419
This has been in place for quite a while now, and the entire membership was notified
through email last year when the change took place. Have you been away for a
while?
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What? Which change? When?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 18:06 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1402419
This has been in place for quite a while now, and the entire membership was notified
through email last year when the change took place. Have you been away for a
while?
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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It is absolutely brown. Shine a light behind a part and look at the piece. Nothing
about it is black.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 15:08 | | Subject: | Re: Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, mwright5 writes:
| | Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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Just like there is nothing brown about old mud "grey" 
LEGO's official name for the old color is Transparent Brown. I think Rylie's
comparison highlights how brown the old color really is in comparison:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/52887756159/#comment72157720267793815
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| Author: | mwright5 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 15:02 | | Subject: | Trans-brown (old trans-black) | | Viewed: | 145 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| Seriously? Light trans-black would have been a more appropriate identifier as
there is a noticeable difference, however there is nothing brown about this color
that we are now calling trans-brown.
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| Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 04:03 | | Subject: | Re: LB-gray color variation or sun ?? Help | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Kraampje43 writes:
| | Hi!
I am having a small issue with a customer who claims te have recieved parts with
sun damage
He sent me pictures of what i believe are his own arches (or maybe other arches
out of the same order: i do not know) and the different "sun damaged"
parts picked out of the different lots/items
Since all parts have the same color on the inside and outside i suspect color
variations/inconsistencies from a parted out set (7094)
Trying to resolve the issue with the customer but i am wondering how yall are
handling this, also with the sand green, dark red, pearl gold and other color
inconsistencies, since it also seems to happen in modern new sets
Do you still opload the part?
Do you place a note on seperated lot?
Or ditch the parts in a bulk bin?
Thanks in advance!!!
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An extremely noticeable distinction with sun damaged parts is that the sun damaged
part of the bricks are always the same color. If the buyer believes they are
sun damaged, they should be able to see the sides of the bricks that do not have
sun damage on them and send you photos of what the undamaged sides look like
next to the damaged sides, and the transition where the sun damaged side is visible
next to the undamaged sides. I have some old bricks that have sun damage on them
and they have it on sun damaged sides only and from the direction of the sunlight
that damaged them. The other sides of the brick are undamaged and retains the
brick's molded color.
Most common LEGO bricks that are not modified bricks have at least 6 sides. Some
sides should be free of sun damage if they are truly sun damaged.
They should send you photos of the undamaged side unless the color is consistent
over all sides. If it is consistent over all sides it is probably not sun damage,
but a differently colored brick.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| Author: | Kraampje43 | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: LB-gray color variation or sun ?? Help | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| dont worry, that is just the light in the picture. it is not (old) light gray.
but not ´normal´ light bluish gray either
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 12:01 | | Subject: | Re: LB-gray color variation or sun ?? Help | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, peregrinator writes:
| | In Colors, Akir writes:
| | The arches on the right look like light grey to me, not LBG (in the other pictures
the difference is not that visible), is it possible you had some old parts mixed
in?
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Yep, same here. They look like light gray in good shape, not sun-damaged LBG
(although sun-damaged LBG can look like LG).
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Adding: and all those parts do come in light gray.
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: LB-gray color variation or sun ?? Help | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Akir writes:
| | The arches on the right look like light grey to me, not LBG (in the other pictures
the difference is not that visible), is it possible you had some old parts mixed
in?
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Yep, same here. They look like light gray in good shape, not sun-damaged LBG
(although sun-damaged LBG can look like LG).
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| Author: | Akir | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 11:55 | | Subject: | Re: LB-gray color variation or sun ?? Help | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| The arches on the right look like light grey to me, not LBG (in the other pictures
the difference is not that visible), is it possible you had some old parts mixed
in?
In Colors, Kraampje43 writes:
| | Hi!
I am having a small issue with a customer who claims te have recieved parts with
sun damage
He sent me pictures of what i believe are his own arches (or maybe other arches
out of the same order: i do not know) and the different "sun damaged"
parts picked out of the different lots/items
Since all parts have the same color on the inside and outside i suspect color
variations/inconsistencies from a parted out set (7094)
Trying to resolve the issue with the customer but i am wondering how yall are
handling this, also with the sand green, dark red, pearl gold and other color
inconsistencies, since it also seems to happen in modern new sets
Do you still opload the part?
Do you place a note on seperated lot?
Or ditch the parts in a bulk bin?
Thanks in advance!!!
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| Author: | Kraampje43 | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 11:44 | | Subject: | LB-gray color variation or sun ?? Help | | Viewed: | 98 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi!
I am having a small issue with a customer who claims te have recieved parts with
sun damage
He sent me pictures of what i believe are his own arches (or maybe other arches
out of the same order: i do not know) and the different "sun damaged"
parts picked out of the different lots/items
Since all parts have the same color on the inside and outside i suspect color
variations/inconsistencies from a parted out set (7094)
Trying to resolve the issue with the customer but i am wondering how yall are
handling this, also with the sand green, dark red, pearl gold and other color
inconsistencies, since it also seems to happen in modern new sets
Do you still opload the part?
Do you place a note on seperated lot?
Or ditch the parts in a bulk bin?
Thanks in advance!!!
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| Author: | NoGravitasHere | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2024 14:07 | | Subject: | Re: Bionicle Silver Demystification Project | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Nothing exclusively from the Inika, no. Hell, I'm not even sure if some of
the Piraka parts I have are 296 anymore, or are just bad 131 v2. My job for this
weekend is trying to separate the two.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2024 05:27 | | Subject: | Re: Bionicle Silver Demystification Project | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| I wonder if the Toa Inika were ever released in 296. The marbled parts
only appear with 131. The element IDs/PCCs of 4493393 & 4493394 appear both in
the database and the instruction manual, and are after the last known 296 ID,
4493182.
Have you find any Inika parts in the color?
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| Author: | NoGravitasHere | | Posted: | Feb 5, 2024 08:43 | | Subject: | Bionicle Silver Demystification Project | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| New thread, new title etc etc
I've more or less reworked the data I had with the new, accurate silver
classifications, which is lovely! I'm liaising with hereforbricks614 to try
and tick off as many Bionicle-specific 296 parts as we can. 2006 is still our
dodgy year, with 131 v1, 131 v2, and 296 all being used. I'm a little concerned
that 2005 might be a potential source of 296 too, but have written off 2007 (blame
some very, very dodgy 131 v2 Jaller swords for that). Te only real challenge
left is to detangle the aforementioned dodgy 131 v2s, and true 296 pieces I've
managed to confirm a bunch of the potential parts already, but more rechecks
are required before I bring that data to BrickLink proper for potential catalogue
inclusion. I'll keep picking at it as I find time between work and other
dumb Bionicle-centric side projects.
Unfortunately, 296 isn't our only bugbear. I've had 2 confirmed sightings
of this weird dude: a 131 v1 Mahri shoulder piece. This image was provided by
a mate, I don't have this piece myself. This piece was introduced in 2007,
and in theory shouldn't exist. In both reported cases, a single one of these
was pulled from a bulk lot, with no accurate indication of what set contained
it. Even more strange: there are no sets that only use 1...
If anyone has any insight as to where this weirdo snuck in, I'd love to hear
it. I'd also love to hear from anyone who has owned the 2005 Bionicle system
playsets from NIB, particularly if said sets contained a Pearl Gold Kraahkan/Pearl
Gold Visorak body. There's a slim chance they might have used 296 as their
silver, going on other contemporary uses, and I'd love to be able to write
them all off conclusively.
Thoughts?
James @ PSPS
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| Author: | Alianak | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2024 20:42 | | Subject: | Re: Need Help Identifying | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Thank you all for the assistance. It is greatly appreciated. All tubs are now
labelled and I can sort at the end of their art sessions.
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| Author: | kittybrickz | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2024 19:47 | | Subject: | Re: Need Help Identifying | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| I'm seeing black next to white and Dark brown below turquoise
I could be wrong, best wishes
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2024 19:11 | | Subject: | Re: Need Help Identifying | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| starting top left
dark pink - magenta
lavender - reddish brown
bright green (or green) - lime
medium azure - bright pink
dark turquoise - blue
dark brown - red
dark blue - black (I think but it might also be dark blue)
tan - light nougat
flat silver - dark bluish-gray
bright light orange - yellow
light bluish gray - sand blue
white - dark brown
bright pink - dark red
coral - tan
medium azure - medium blue
dark tan - medium nougat
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| Author: | Alianak | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2024 19:04 | | Subject: | Need Help Identifying | | Viewed: | 110 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| I recently bought a few different colours for the kids to play with, but in their
haste they opened all the bags and sorted them into containers before I could
label them. Most of the colours seem straight forward but there are some I have
difficulty distinguishing between. Is there an app that I can check each colour
individually, or would someone be able to identify each of the colours for me?
Can provide better photos if needed.
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2024 03:12 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, yorbrick writes:
| | In isolation, calling that colour orange makes sense. But put some other parts
in existing shades of orange and similar colours that don't use the word
orange, then it is obvious why you need more than just orange to describe it.
It is like opening a paintbox containing 60 tubes of different colours of paint.
Calling ten of them red, 10 blue, 10 green and so on may help group them into
rough families but doesn't distinguish within the family.
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That's the problem, though: I'm seeing this color in isolation. I'm
not a catalog administrator and I don't have any parts in this new color.
I tend to deal only with the basic LEGO colors, and to my eye, especially after
being run through BrickLink JPG compression, this new color looks exactly like
standard LEGO Orange. So I would just call it orange until I see it in person,
which will be never unless it becomes popular.
Sometimes, I wonder if the LEGO Group and BrickLink are going in the right direction.
I reckon that LEGO was a much different company in 1932 than it is today, and
that BrickLink was a much different website in 2000 than it is today. Both have
expanded greatly, but at the cost of more loyal customers and dedicated users.
Newer customers and users are more like me: they are not so picky about minor
colors and variations. But I spend much less on LEGO than a BrickLink Inventory
Administrator. These companies are sacrificing longtime fans to gain mass appeal.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2024 01:46 | | Subject: | Re: Colors ID's in Bricklink | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Turez writes:
| | […]
The other gaps I cannot explain, but I guess they were merged as well and the
log entries were deleted.
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Or maybe they never were logged because they were merged directly in the database
(olden times, when the site was more artisanal).
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2024 18:42 | | Subject: | Re: Colors ID's in Bricklink | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, yoavheskia writes:
| | I noticed that the numbers 30, 45, 53, 75, 79, 92, 112 are not in use and also
numbers 170-209.
Any reason for skipping those?
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112 was merged in 2005:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&viewAction=A
167-209 were Brickarms colors which were added in early 2018 and removed some
time after The LEGO Group acquired BrickLink, so the numbers can now be used
for normal colors.
The other gaps I cannot explain, but I guess they were merged as well and the
log entries were deleted.
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| Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2024 18:36 | | Subject: | Re: Colors ID's in Bricklink | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, yoavheskia writes:
| | I noticed that the numbers 30, 45, 53, 75, 79, 92, 112 are not in use and also
numbers 170-209.
Any reason for skipping those?
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Always wondered what the story is there... Reddish Orange was 256 before being
bumped down to 167.
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I read (somewhere) that the database can handle only integer figures upto 255,
so Reddish Orange had to use a lower (unused) value. As for the other missing
values...?
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2024 16:15 | | Subject: | Re: Colors ID's in Bricklink | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, yoavheskia writes:
| | I noticed that the numbers 30, 45, 53, 75, 79, 92, 112 are not in use and also
numbers 170-209.
Any reason for skipping those?
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Always wondered what the story is there... Reddish Orange was 256 before being
bumped down to 167.
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| Author: | yoavheskia | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2024 14:22 | | Subject: | Colors ID's in Bricklink | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| I noticed that the numbers 30, 45, 53, 75, 79, 92, 112 are not in use and also
numbers 170-209.
Any reason for skipping those?
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2024 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, jennnifer writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
I've just opened 42601 to get a look at the new LEGO color Sienna Brown.
It's basically Medium Nougat + Dark Orange. I am getting some images ready...
But in the meantime, I was looking at some other new colors for comparison and
couldn't help but notice how difficult it is for all us submitters to get
the color right in images. Here's Medium Brown for example:
Wowsa.
~Jen
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Crazy!
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| Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2024 09:24 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
I've just opened 42601 to get a look at the new LEGO color Sienna Brown.
It's basically Medium Nougat + Dark Orange. I am getting some images ready...
But in the meantime, I was looking at some other new colors for comparison and
couldn't help but notice how difficult it is for all us submitters to get
the color right in images. Here's Medium Brown for example:
Wowsa.
~Jen
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2024 05:15 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| | | When asked to describe the color of the parts in the picture below, the first
word that comes to my mind is orange, but I've neither the parts nor a dictionary.
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In isolation, calling that colour orange makes sense. But put some other parts
in existing shades of orange and similar colours that don't use the word
orange, then it is obvious why you need more than just orange to describe it.
It is like opening a paintbox containing 60 tubes of different colours of paint.
Calling ten of them red, 10 blue, 10 green and so on may help group them into
rough families but doesn't distinguish within the family.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2024 04:57 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | […]
When asked to describe the color of the parts in the picture below, the first
word that comes to my mind is orange, but I've neither the parts nor a dictionary.
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Context is important.
When presented with the picture of a car, and asked to describe it, I say “it’s
(the picture of) a car.”
When presented with the picture of a car, and asked to describe it, in the
context of a catalogue of vehicles where there’s already coupés, berlines, limousine…,
I try to find something better to describe it. And as I don’t know much about
cars, I’d ask an expert or look into a book. I wouldn’t use the first specialized
term that comes to my mind and that, in my non-expert knowledge, is loosely associated
with what I see.
Then, if there’s one (or several) specialized term that matches but I find it’s
too obscure for the purpose of being a search term, I don’t use it and choose
another way to describe the car.
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2024 03:56 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | No language evolves by hoarding a dozen (or more) words and making them all synonyms
with a vague meaning.
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English does that.
| | And when you need to describe something precisely, like a colour in a catalogue,
you don’t pick one word at random. You compare all the possible words and look
at their usages… usages which are compiled in dictionaries
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That sounds like something a French person would do.
| | Or you create a phrase with more common and more comprehensible words
|
That sounds like something an English person would do.
Remember our discussion about Munster and the use of accent marks in English?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1431534
Your first language colors your view of the world, even if you learn to speak
a second language.
When asked to describe the color of the parts in the picture below, the first
word that comes to my mind is orange, but I've neither the parts nor a dictionary.
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:45 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | […]
NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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Free of what?
|
free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)
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He's been released!
|
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA FREE
|
https://youtu.be/ui8kUKuLBaU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkzT5tV36lc&ab_channel=CertixfysProductions
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:43 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | […]
NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
|
Free of what?
|
free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)
|
He's been released!
|
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA FREE
|
https://youtu.be/ui8kUKuLBaU
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:39 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | […]
NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
|
Free of what?
|
free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)
|
He's been released!
|
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA FREE
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:34 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | […]
NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
|
Free of what?
|
free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)
|
He's been released!
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| Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 06:10 | | Subject: | Re: 4493c01pb04 Horse | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| Recent discussion regarding similar clone horse in red.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1443810
In Colors, Stuart9 writes:
| | Not in Lego horses, you might find other colours in clone versions.
In Colors, Emery2874 writes:
| | Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
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| Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 06:04 | | Subject: | Re: 4493c01pb04 Horse | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Not in Lego horses, you might find other colours in clone versions.
In Colors, Emery2874 writes:
| | Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
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| Author: | Emery2874 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 00:32 | | Subject: | 4493c01pb04 Horse | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
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| Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
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| Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 17:44 | | Subject: | Re: Just want to vent about color consistency | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Looks like they might have used a mixture of MABS and ploycarbonate clear parts.
David
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 11:00 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Why are we still talking about this, there are many videos on YouTube discussing
the colour grey.(I recommend watching R.R. Slugger he knows just about all there
is to know about old Lego colours and sets)
Please time to move on and try to forget the poor decisions that Lego made.(like
retiring trans neon green)
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, Pippysblocks writes:
| | It's because Lego replaced light grey with light bluish grey a long time
back so now all the light greys are harder to get, unfortunately.
In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
|
|
It isn't even because it was a long time back. The price of light gray spiked
FAST. People have gotten used to LBG, maybe because they had to, but a year
after the switch light gray was rare and expensive. I think the custom builders
didn't want to make the switch.
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| Author: | SimplyBricks | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 06:03 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, coevorden01 writes:
| | In Colors, yorbrick writes:
| | In Colors, journey2020 writes:
| | In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
|
Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
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Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?
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those were the days
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KEhWTnWvE
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| Author: | coevorden01 | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 05:04 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, yorbrick writes:
| | In Colors, journey2020 writes:
| | In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
|
Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
|
Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?
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those were the days
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 04:57 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, journey2020 writes:
| | In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
|
Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
|
Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?
|
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2024 21:06 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Teup writes:
| | In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | Thank you guys!
I should have run a search on the Internet. I found this now: http://www.brickpile.com/articles/grey-bluish-gray-stone-grey-or-blay/
In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
|
|
I had always believed 100% the change was made to save money. That was something
I respected. But now I read this for the first time https://news.lugnet.com/lego/?n=1791
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I always assumed it was because of Star Wars, that the old grey and dark grey
colors weren't quite up to snuff to depict SW sets.
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| Author: | journey2020 | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2024 15:35 | | Subject: | Re: What's the deal about bluish gray? | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
| | I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?
|
Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
|
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| Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2024 22:45 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
| | What happened to colours 403 to 421?
|
Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.
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Hmm, arithmetic isn’t your thing, eh? 
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It's only 18 different names for Gray but with recent dye lot differences,
it will be 50 shades.
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| Author: | yoavheskia | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2024 04:04 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Are you all serious? Is it really true? How many Browns Lego needs?
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| Author: | rylie_aitch | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 20:01 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown 
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
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I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
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Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
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I was referring to 339, which is also gone as of today.
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Ah yeah, of course. I'm still unsure if those transparent-effect colors actually
take up palette spots or not...
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 17:20 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
| | What happened to colours 403 to 421?
|
Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.
|
Hmm, arithmetic isn’t your thing, eh?
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 17:14 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
|
I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
|
Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
|
I was referring to 339, which is also gone as of today.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| | […]
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
|
What happened to colours 403 to 421?
|
Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.
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| Author: | rylie_aitch | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 16:50 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| | […]
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
|
What happened to colours 403 to 421?
|
What I wouldn't give to know
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 16:48 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| | […]
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
|
What happened to colours 403 to 421?
|
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| Author: | rylie_aitch | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 16:36 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
|
I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
|
Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
|
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 13:13 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| It’s as simple as this, if you can’t tell the difference in the renders, than
it’s a colour not needed.
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 12:51 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Saitolegos writes:
| | Really I don’t see why we need more colours. Just too many already! More confusion
is on the way in 2024.
However it would be awesome if they could revive an old retired colour.
|
Agreed. Many recent colors are awfully similar to older colors. Hell, some of
them are virtually indistinguishable from one another. I believe this new Sienna
Brown looks like Dark Nougat.
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| Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 12:38 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Really I don’t see why we need more colours. Just too many already! More confusion
is on the way in 2024.
However it would be awesome if they could revive a old retired colour.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | […]
Umber Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
|
Hard to say with only renders but it indeed seems so
And Sienna Brown looks very much like Medium Brown. We need real comparisons.
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
|
I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2024 11:38 | | Subject: | Re: Two more colors | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
|
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown
(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
|
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| Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 18:31 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| | | My ColorMunki Design colorimeter gave me #E04912 — better than a photo, taking
ambient lighting and post-processing out of the equation
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Then it might be Syracuse Red Orange (#E0430F) or Flame (#E25822)
------------ Red ----- Green ---- Blue
#E04912: 87.84% - 28.63% - 07.06%
#E0430F: 87.84% - 26.27% - 05.88%
#E25822: 88.60% - 34.50% - 13.30%
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| Author: | rylie_aitch | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, DanialR writes:
My ColorMunki Design colorimeter gave me #E04912 — better than a photo, taking
ambient lighting and post-processing out of the equation
|
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| Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 17:35 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| | “Reddish Orange” it is. No Bricklinkification this time.
|
If the picture accurately represents the color then it has a HEX value of #FF5100
International Orange (#FF4F00) is the closest recognized color.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_orange)
If you want to use the Official Register of Color Names, it fits closest to:
- Maximum Orange (#FF5B00)
- Taobao Orange (#FF4200)
(https://color-register.org/list/orange-color-names)
Dan
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| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| | “Reddish Orange” it is. No Bricklinkification this time. |
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 31, 2023 06:01 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | […]
| | *sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
|
I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years. […]
|
Not really.
Languages evolve by transforming their own words and borrowing (they don’t always
steal: they do sometimes give them back ) words from other languages to add
meanings, often to better describe what their locutors wanted and needed to describe,
or to replace words (the borrowed word replaces an older word… but that older
word also sometimes resurfaces with a slightly different meaning).
English evolved from a Germanic language, borrowed very little from Celtic languages,
borrowed a lot from Latin, a bit from Greek, then a lot from Norman French, then
a lot from all over the place. All that while it still created new words (compounding
them, deriving them…).
You can find the same Proto-Indo-European word (or rather root) three or four
times in English. For instance:
— from the Germanic: knowledge (akin to keen, uncouth, can…),
— from Greek: gnosis (and derivatives, prognosis, diagnosis…),
— from Latin: cognition (akin to ignorant, notice, noble…),
(— from French: connoisseur and maybe others closer to ‘knwoledge’ that I’m not
seeing right now).
Three different words, three similar but different meanings, same Proto-Indo-European
root: ǵneh₃.
But that’s not what I was bemoaning.
Here, I was talking of taking a lot of words, like vermilion, carmine, crimsom,
burgundy, scarlet, gules, etc., and saying: Well, they all mean red. Any red.
You can use them indiscriminately from dark red to light red, from orange to
purple. (And let’s randomly pick one for this new LEGO colour.)
No, those words each describe some kind of red, not any reddish
colour.
No language evolves by hoarding a dozen (or more) words and making them all synonyms
with a vague meaning.
And when you need to describe something precisely, like a colour in a catalogue,
you don’t pick one word at random. You compare all the possible words and look
at their usages… usages which are compiled in dictionaries
Or you create a phrase with more common and more comprehensible words
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| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 23:34 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, popsicle writes:
| | In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | […]
I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
|
Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
|
I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.
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Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.
| | Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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Fair point
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Ha ett gott nytt år
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 22:54 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, popsicle writes:
| | In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
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Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.
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Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.
| | Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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Fair point
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| Author: | psusaxman2000 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 22:45 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, tec writes:
| | Fanta orange
Nothing sounds more bricklinkish than naming colors in spite of Bigplasticorp
directives.
I still remember when someone tackled a new entry with a blunt "alien pee
green"... lol... and it was a yellow at that time... rofl.
Keep up the good humour pals.
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Not Fanta, kick it old school....TANG
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 19:18 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | Why did they stop in 1969?
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The British Invasion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Invasion
In all seriousness, I don't know the answer to that question since that was
a bit before my time. It could very well have been because of the popularity
of British musical artists in America during the 1960s and the desire to be perceived
as speaking "English" instead of "American".
It could also have been a simple acknowledgement of the fact that, nearly two
centuries after the Declaration of Independence was signed, British and American
English were still, for the most part, mutually intelligible.
Or, like most of my forum posts, the whole thing could have been a joke.
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| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 18:51 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | […]
I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
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Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
|
I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.
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Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.
| | Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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| Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 18:17 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | […]
I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
|
Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
|
I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets
it as -- not by their etymology. Dictionaries are documentation of how language
is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:56 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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That's just what Americans do: steal things from other countries and blend
them all together until they become indistinguishable from one another.
Re: American English, American cheese, Americans…
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:42 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | […]
NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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Free of what?
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free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:40 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| | […]
NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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Free of what?
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:28 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
Who is Sancho?
(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )
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What's Nubs got to do with it?
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NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:03 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
Why did they stop in 1969?
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 17:02 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
| | […]
I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]
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Not what I’m usually accused of
*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:59 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
Who is Sancho?
(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )
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What's Nubs got to do with it?
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.
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Fun fact: From 1923 to 1969, the official language of Illinois was American:
https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?clippingId=74230858
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:34 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| | If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, at least when it comes to distinguishing between
similar colors.
In my eyes, there's little difference between reddish orange and orangish
red, except perhaps for the fact that reddish orange is a bit more orange than
it is red and orangish red is a bit more red than it is orange, but that's
subjective and depends on the eye of the viewer. Both can be described as vermilion.
Wikipedia, and, by extension, Wiktionary, are generally written from a British
English perspective, so perhaps the word vermilion is used differently in British
English than in American English, but that would also be a good reason to use
it in the British sense here on BrickLink.
To me, Vermilion is the name of two separate but adjacent counties, one in the
U.S. state of Illinois, and another just across the border in Indiana:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_County,_Illinois
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermillion_County,_Indiana
It's also the name of two separate rivers in the same area:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_River_(Illinois_River_tributary)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_River_(Wabash_River_tributary)
Apparently, the early settlers got confused and thought the two rivers were one,
giving them the same name.
Maybe Vermilion is just an inherently confusing word? I don't even know whether
to spell it with one L or two.
| | That this meaning had been used to describe more colours (see again the reference
for “web vermilion,” with the use of the qualificative “web” to mark its deviation
from the main meaning),
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Then perhaps we should call the new color Web Vermilion? The sample on Wiktionary
looks pretty similar to the color of the parts in the picture Rylie posted.
Having only seen the new color in digital images but never in person, I'm
not in the best position to name it. I'll leave this one to the catalog people.
| | while still staying a ‘fancy’/rare word that no one uses
or really understands just adds reasons not to use it for this new LEGO colour.
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Amen.
| | Let’s sum this up:
— if you take the original meaning, it’s not the same colour,
— few know the word,
— its meaning has been expanded enough and transformed enough between languages
(one can read the wiktionary entries in other languages to see the different
colour swatches) to become at best vague, and at worst confusing.
Why would one want to use that word?
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To create even more confusion?
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
Who is Sancho?
(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )
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