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 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
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In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
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NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!

Free of what?

free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)

He's been released!
 
Minifig No: sw1322  Name: Nubs
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sw1322 (Inv) Nubs
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Young Jedi Adventures
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
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Recent discussion regarding similar clone horse in red.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1443810



In Colors, Stuart9 writes:
  Not in Lego horses, you might find other colours in clone versions.





In Colors, Emery2874 writes:
  Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
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Not in Lego horses, you might find other colours in clone versions.





In Colors, Emery2874 writes:
  Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
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Is it possible to find a horse in a different color besides the three that are
offered? I'm doing a MOC design but need a horse in purple, red and yellow.
Not sure if its even possible to do without painting them myself.
 
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
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Looks like they might have used a mixture of MABS and ploycarbonate clear parts.

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 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Jan 6, 2024 11:00
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Why are we still talking about this, there are many videos on YouTube discussing
the colour grey.(I recommend watching R.R. Slugger he knows just about all there
is to know about old Lego colours and sets)

Please time to move on and try to forget the poor decisions that Lego made.(like
retiring trans neon green)
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Colors, Pippysblocks writes:
  It's because Lego replaced light grey with light bluish grey a long time
back so now all the light greys are harder to get, unfortunately.

In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
  I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?

It isn't even because it was a long time back. The price of light gray spiked
FAST. People have gotten used to LBG, maybe because they had to, but a year
after the switch light gray was rare and expensive. I think the custom builders
didn't want to make the switch.
 Author: SimplyBricks View Messages Posted By SimplyBricks
 Posted: Jan 6, 2024 06:03
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In Colors, coevorden01 writes:
  In Colors, yorbrick writes:
  In Colors, journey2020 writes:
  In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
  I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?

Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.

Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?

those were the days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KEhWTnWvE
 Author: coevorden01 View Messages Posted By coevorden01
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In Colors, yorbrick writes:
  In Colors, journey2020 writes:
  In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
  I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?

Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.

Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?

those were the days
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Colors, journey2020 writes:
  In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
  I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?

Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.

Do you realise this thread was from five and a half years ago?
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Colors, Teup writes:
  In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
  Thank you guys!

I should have run a search on the Internet. I found this now: http://www.brickpile.com/articles/grey-bluish-gray-stone-grey-or-blay/

In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
  I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?

I had always believed 100% the change was made to save money. That was something
I respected. But now I read this for the first time https://news.lugnet.com/lego/?n=1791

I always assumed it was because of Star Wars, that the old grey and dark grey
colors weren't quite up to snuff to depict SW sets.
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In Colors, LeGoLem writes:
  I am looking for gray bricks and part, but anywhere I look people only sell dark
or light bluish gray instead of regular gray parts. Why is that? Where are the
good old light gray parts? Why did regular gray become so rare?

Hi, I have a big bag full of the old light gray pieces. If you want to send me
a list of the pieces you need, I will see if I have them. I also have a big
bag full of the old dark gray pieces as well.
 Author: DanialR View Messages Posted By DanialR
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
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  What happened to colours 403 to 421?

Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.

Hmm, arithmetic isn’t your thing, eh?

It's only 18 different names for Gray but with recent dye lot differences,
it will be 50 shades.
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  Sienna Brown and Umber Brown have been introduced alongside Reddish Orange. https://brickset.com/article/104810/three-new-colours-released-today

Are you all serious? Is it really true? How many Browns Lego needs?
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  Sienna Brown and Umber Brown have been introduced alongside Reddish Orange. https://brickset.com/article/104810/three-new-colours-released-today

Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown

(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)

I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/

Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping


402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown

I was referring to 339, which is also gone as of today.

Ah yeah, of course. I'm still unsure if those transparent-effect colors actually
take up palette spots or not...
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In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
  What happened to colours 403 to 421?

Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.

Hmm, arithmetic isn’t your thing, eh?
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In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  Sienna Brown and Umber Brown have been introduced alongside Reddish Orange. https://brickset.com/article/104810/three-new-colours-released-today

Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown

(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)

I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/

Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping


402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown

I was referring to 339, which is also gone as of today.
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  […]
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown

What happened to colours 403 to 421?

Reserved for 50 Shades of Gray.
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  […]
402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown

What happened to colours 403 to 421?

What I wouldn't give to know
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In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
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402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown

What happened to colours 403 to 421?
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  Sienna Brown and Umber Brown have been introduced alongside Reddish Orange. https://brickset.com/article/104810/three-new-colours-released-today

Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown

(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)

I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/

Both? Do you think Trans-Bright Green is gone? I guess we'll see... I do
think that these "Restricted" or temporary colors don't necessarily
follow the one-in-one-out rule like Vibrant Yellow or Reddish Orange might. But
all it takes is a BrickHeadz set or a LegoLand model to get them in useful bricks
and plates, so here's hoping


402 Reddish Orange
422 Sienna Brown
423 Umber Brown
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It’s as simple as this, if you can’t tell the difference in the renders, than
it’s a colour not needed.
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In Colors, Saitolegos writes:
  Really I don’t see why we need more colours. Just too many already! More confusion
is on the way in 2024.
However it would be awesome if they could revive an old retired colour.

Agreed. Many recent colors are awfully similar to older colors. Hell, some of
them are virtually indistinguishable from one another. I believe this new Sienna
Brown looks like Dark Nougat.
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Really I don’t see why we need more colours. Just too many already! More confusion
is on the way in 2024.
However it would be awesome if they could revive a old retired colour.
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
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Umber Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/

Hard to say with only renders but it indeed seems so

And Sienna Brown looks very much like Medium Brown.  We need real comparisons.
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In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  Sienna Brown and Umber Brown have been introduced alongside Reddish Orange. https://brickset.com/article/104810/three-new-colours-released-today

Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown

(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)

I wonder if both Transparent Neon Greens were dropped in favor of these. Umber
Brown looks too much like Dark Brown. :/
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  Sienna Brown and Umber Brown have been introduced alongside Reddish Orange. https://brickset.com/article/104810/three-new-colours-released-today

Skins only, like Medium Tan and Medium Brown

(Well, with luck, a couple plates for BrickHeadz…)
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Sienna Brown and Umber Brown have been introduced alongside Reddish Orange. https://brickset.com/article/104810/three-new-colours-released-today
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  My ColorMunki Design colorimeter gave me #E04912 — better than a photo, taking
ambient lighting and post-processing out of the equation

Then it might be Syracuse Red Orange (#E0430F) or Flame (#E25822)

------------ Red ----- Green ---- Blue
#E04912: 87.84% - 28.63% - 07.06%
#E0430F: 87.84% - 26.27% - 05.88%
#E25822: 88.60% - 34.50% - 13.30%

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  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  “Reddish Orange” it is. No Bricklinkification this time.

If the picture accurately represents the color then it has a HEX value of #FF5100

International Orange (#FF4F00) is the closest recognized color.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_orange)


If you want to use the Official Register of Color Names, it fits closest to:

- Maximum Orange (#FF5B00)
- Taobao Orange (#FF4200)

(https://color-register.org/list/orange-color-names)

Dan

OOPS, forgot to put a space after the URLs so Bricklink would not add the ''
to the URLs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_orange

https://color-register.org/list/orange-color-names
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  “Reddish Orange” it is. No Bricklinkification this time.

If the picture accurately represents the color then it has a HEX value of #FF5100

International Orange (#FF4F00) is the closest recognized color.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_orange)


If you want to use the Official Register of Color Names, it fits closest to:

- Maximum Orange (#FF5B00)
- Taobao Orange (#FF4200)

(https://color-register.org/list/orange-color-names)

Dan


My ColorMunki Design colorimeter gave me #E04912 — better than a photo, taking
ambient lighting and post-processing out of the equation
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  “Reddish Orange” it is. No Bricklinkification this time.

If the picture accurately represents the color then it has a HEX value of #FF5100

International Orange (#FF4F00) is the closest recognized color.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_orange)


If you want to use the Official Register of Color Names, it fits closest to:

- Maximum Orange (#FF5B00)
- Taobao Orange (#FF4200)

(https://color-register.org/list/orange-color-names)

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In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
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  *sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me

I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years. […]

Not really.

Languages evolve by transforming their own words and borrowing (they don’t always
steal: they do sometimes give them back ) words from other languages to add
meanings, often to better describe what their locutors wanted and needed to describe,
or to replace words (the borrowed word replaces an older word… but that older
word also sometimes resurfaces with a slightly different meaning).

English evolved from a Germanic language, borrowed very little from Celtic languages,
borrowed a lot from Latin, a bit from Greek, then a lot from Norman French, then
a lot from all over the place.  All that while it still created new words (compounding
them, deriving them…).

You can find the same Proto-Indo-European word (or rather root) three or four
times in English.  For instance:
— from the Germanic: knowledge (akin to keen, uncouth, can…),
— from Greek: gnosis (and derivatives, prognosis, diagnosis…),
— from Latin: cognition (akin to ignorant, notice, noble…),
(— from French: connoisseur and maybe others closer to ‘knwoledge’ that I’m not
seeing right now).

Three different words, three similar but different meanings, same Proto-Indo-European
root: ǵneh₃.

But that’s not what I was bemoaning.
Here, I was talking of taking a lot of words, like vermilion, carmine, crimsom,
burgundy, scarlet, gules, etc., and saying:  Well, they all mean red.  Any red. 
You can use them indiscriminately from dark red to light red, from orange to
purple.  (And let’s randomly pick one for this new LEGO colour.)
No, those words each describe some kind of red, not any reddish
colour.

No language evolves by hoarding a dozen (or more) words and making them all synonyms
with a vague meaning.

And when you need to describe something precisely, like a colour in a catalogue,
you don’t pick one word at random.  You compare all the possible words and look
at their usages… usages which are compiled in dictionaries
Or you create a phrase with more common and more comprehensible words
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  In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]

Not what I’m usually accused of

*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me

I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.

Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.

  Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.

Fair point

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  In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
  In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
  […]
I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]

Not what I’m usually accused of

*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me

I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.

Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.

  Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.

Fair point
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  Fanta orange

Nothing sounds more bricklinkish than naming colors in spite of Bigplasticorp
directives.

I still remember when someone tackled a new entry with a blunt "alien pee
green"... lol... and it was a yellow at that time... rofl.

Keep up the good humour pals.

Not Fanta, kick it old school....TANG
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  Why did they stop in 1969?

The British Invasion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Invasion

In all seriousness, I don't know the answer to that question since that was
a bit before my time. It could very well have been because of the popularity
of British musical artists in America during the 1960s and the desire to be perceived
as speaking "English" instead of "American".

It could also have been a simple acknowledgement of the fact that, nearly two
centuries after the Declaration of Independence was signed, British and American
English were still, for the most part, mutually intelligible.

Or, like most of my forum posts, the whole thing could have been a joke.
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In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
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  In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]

Not what I’m usually accused of

*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me

I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets it as --
not by their etymology.

Well put. Except for your "use" of the term, etymology. The discipline
studies not only the origin of words, but their uses and various meanings throughout
history, development over time. What was originally meant and what is now conveyed.
In other words, it is with etymology real meaning is found even within today's
popular culture, presumably.

  Dictionaries are documentation of how language is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]

Not what I’m usually accused of

*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me

I mean, this is basically how languages have evolved for thousands of years.
The only difference now is the instantaneous communication and access to knowledge
that is the internet. The meanings of words change and shift, often with the
"original" meaning being entirely lost to time. They are defined by how
you use them -- what you intend to refer to, and what your audience interprets
it as -- not by their etymology. Dictionaries are documentation of how language
is used, not outlines of how language should be used.
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  Not what I’m usually accused of

*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me

That's just what Americans do: steal things from other countries and blend
them all together until they become indistinguishable from one another.

Re: American English, American cheese, Americans…
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NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!

Free of what?

free of not being in a set made by lego (or maybe i needed a double negative
or something my brain aint working rn)
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NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!

Free of what?
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Who is Sancho?

(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )

What's Nubs got to do with it?

NUBS!!! ONLY 2 DAYS TILL HE IS FREE!
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  Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.

Fun fact: From 1923 to 1969, the official language of Illinois was American:
https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?clippingId=74230858

Why did they stop in 1969?
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I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, […]

Not what I’m usually accused of

*sigh* Stealing all those words from all those other languages and muddying their
meanings so much they all become synonyms doesn’t seem very efficient to me
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Who is Sancho?

(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )

What's Nubs got to do with it?
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  Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.

Fun fact: From 1923 to 1969, the official language of Illinois was American:
https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?clippingId=74230858
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  If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

I think the English language (at least American English) is far less refined
than you give it credit for, at least when it comes to distinguishing between
similar colors.

In my eyes, there's little difference between reddish orange and orangish
red, except perhaps for the fact that reddish orange is a bit more orange than
it is red and orangish red is a bit more red than it is orange, but that's
subjective and depends on the eye of the viewer. Both can be described as vermilion.

Wikipedia, and, by extension, Wiktionary, are generally written from a British
English perspective, so perhaps the word vermilion is used differently in British
English than in American English, but that would also be a good reason to use
it in the British sense here on BrickLink.

To me, Vermilion is the name of two separate but adjacent counties, one in the
U.S. state of Illinois, and another just across the border in Indiana:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_County,_Illinois
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermillion_County,_Indiana

It's also the name of two separate rivers in the same area:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_River_(Illinois_River_tributary)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_River_(Wabash_River_tributary)

Apparently, the early settlers got confused and thought the two rivers were one,
giving them the same name.

Maybe Vermilion is just an inherently confusing word? I don't even know whether
to spell it with one L or two.

  That this meaning had been used to describe more colours (see again the reference
for “web vermilion,” with the use of the qualificative “web” to mark its deviation
from the main meaning),

Then perhaps we should call the new color Web Vermilion? The sample on Wiktionary
looks pretty similar to the color of the parts in the picture Rylie posted.

Having only seen the new color in digital images but never in person, I'm
not in the best position to name it. I'll leave this one to the catalog people.

  while still staying a ‘fancy’/rare word that no one uses
or really understands just adds reasons not to use it for this new LEGO colour.

Amen.

  Let’s sum this up:
— if you take the original meaning, it’s not the same colour,
— few know the word,
— its meaning has been expanded enough and transformed enough between languages
(one can read the wiktionary entries in other languages to see the different
colour swatches) to become at best vague, and at worst confusing.

Why would one want to use that word?

To create even more confusion?
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Who is Sancho?

(I’ve already an idea of who the donkey is )
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  If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.

Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.



No, no, no.  That’s the hill I chose to die for!
 
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  If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.

Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.



No, no, no.  That’s the hill I chose to die for!
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  If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.

Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.

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Eheh subtle and funny

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In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
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Vermillion is a fancy English word for a bright reddish orange color similar
to the one shown above. Some shades are more reddish and some are more orangish,
but it's an apt description, at least in English, the Lingua Franca
of the internet. I understand that vermillon has a different meaning in Français.

If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.

That this meaning had been used to describe more colours (see again the reference
for “web vermilion,” with the use of the qualificative “web” to mark its deviation
from the main meaning), while still staying a ‘fancy’/rare word that no one uses
or really understands just adds reasons not to use it for this new LEGO colour.

Let’s sum this up:
— if you take the original meaning, it’s not the same colour,
— few know the word,
— its meaning has been expanded enough and transformed enough between languages
(one can read the wiktionary entries in other languages to see the different
colour swatches) to become at best vague, and at worst confusing.

Why would one want to use that word?


  […]
But Reddish Orange and Vibrant Orange are both good names for this particular
color, at least in my own personal opinion.

Exactly.
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Fanta orange

Nothing sounds more bricklinkish than naming colors in spite of Bigplasticorp
directives.

I still remember when someone tackled a new entry with a blunt "alien pee
green"... lol... and it was a yellow at that time... rofl.

Keep up the good humour pals.
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  In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

I'd keep it simple and go for "Reddish Orange".

Although, since the yellowish orange colors have been named "light orange"
on here, that implies darker colors should skew in the opposite direction of
red, and given that 402 is slightly darker and could fit in a gradient from orange
to dark orange, I also propose Medium Dark Orange (please no)
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  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

I'd keep it simple and go for "Reddish Orange".
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  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

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What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

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  Maybe Blood Orange?  Has anybody cut one of the new bricks yet?

No, but I've cut myself on one of them.
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  Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Colours are already complicated enough.

Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Languages are already complicated enough.

Anyway, I think this more of a language/description issue than a color issue.
Vermillion is a fancy English word for a bright reddish orange color similar
to the one shown above. Some shades are more reddish and some are more orangish,
but it's an apt description, at least in English, the Lingua Franca
of the internet. I understand that vermillon has a different meaning in Français.

However, the catalog administrators seem to shy away naming colors using fancy
and/or obscure English words. Dark Red could be described as burgundy or maroon
and Bright Red could be described as crimson or scarlet. One possible exception
is Nougat, if only to avoid the racial connotations of flesh, tan, and off-white.

But Reddish Orange and Vibrant Orange are both good names for this particular
color, at least in my own personal opinion.
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No mustard! It should be called orange orange to reference the fruit it’s based
off of
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In Colors, peregrinator writes:
  In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Carrot Orange would be the obvious choice.

Clementine Orange?

Would be nice taste to mix Nougat and Clementine.
And Mustard of course.

No, disgusting, but then we should make a petition to add Mustard as a BrickLink
color!!!
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  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

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What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Carrot Orange would be the obvious choice.
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Ooh... how about Persimmon?



~Jen

No problem with me… except a persimmon is lighter than an orange.  (Fun fact:
a persimmon is called kaki in French… which is also the French word for
khaki (the khaki green colour) )

Maybe Blood Orange?  Has anyboy cut one of the new bricks yet?
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You mean like “Lilac”? What about “Violet”? Everybody is going to give you a
different answer.

More reasons not to add to past wrongdoings
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  “Vermillion” gets my vote.

Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Colours are already complicated enough.



Ooh... how about Persimmon?



~Jen
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  “Vermillion” gets my vote.

Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Colours are already complicated enough.


In French, and correctly (etymologically, not because I’m French ), vermillon
is rouge vif (bright red).  It’s a red that tire vers l’orangé
(goes towards some oranged tint), not some kind of orange that goes towards red.

Colour patches in these entries:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermilion
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermillon

French Wiktionary shows the real pigment (HgS).  Not the same colour as the LEGO
colour.

You can see the English entry has two patches: one closer to the French entry
and one more orange, called “web vermilion,” that could look like the new LEGO
colour.

You mean like “Lilac”? What about “Violet”? Everybody is going to give you a
different answer.
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  “Vermillion” gets my vote.

Please no.  Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun. 
Colours are already complicated enough.


In French, and correctly (etymologically, not because I’m French ), vermillon
is rouge vif (bright red).  It’s a red that tire vers l’orangé
(goes towards some oranged tint), not some kind of orange that goes towards red.

Colour patches in these entries:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermilion
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermillon

French Wiktionary shows the real pigment (HgS).  Not the same colour as the LEGO
colour.

You can see the English entry has two patches: one closer to the French entry
and one more orange, called “web vermilion,” that could look like the new LEGO
colour.
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  LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.

Make a petition on change.org?

(For LEGO to adopt BrickLink names, of course )


Agreed!!
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“Vermillion” gets my vote.
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  LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.

Make a petition on change.org?

(For LEGO to adopt BrickLink names, of course )
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LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.

In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
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It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie
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But then, I am a cool color person.

~Jen

(Beware the sharks )
 
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In Colors, axaday writes:
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  No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

Neon Orange, I am sure.

I would call it Baby Food Orange. It's blech.

But then, I am a cool color person.

~Jen
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It's slightly neon in person!

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What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

Neon Orange, I am sure.
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Like the idea about that one :

Less bright very bright orange.



In Colors, infinibrix writes:
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It's slightly neon in person!

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What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

Ideally we should be calling them exactly what Lego call them especially when
it comes to the more obscure colours where these newly introduced colours are
becoming ever more similar to existing shades. In these situations we need absolute
clarity and using different names to what Lego use will never help with that
clarity

Though I suspect it will be called something like:-

Bright Orange if not already taken or

Very Bright Orange
Very, Very Bright Orange
Very, Light Bright Orange
Very, Very, Light Bright Orange

I give up! Some day we will probably find ourselves with a Very, Very Bright
Orange that will end up less bright than the Very Bright Orange!
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It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie

Ideally we should be calling them exactly what Lego call them especially when
it comes to the more obscure colours where these newly introduced colours are
becoming ever more similar to existing shades. In these situations we need absolute
clarity and using different names to what Lego use will never help with that
clarity

Though I suspect it will be called something like:-

Bright Orange if not already taken or

Very Bright Orange
Very, Very Bright Orange
Very, Light Bright Orange
Very, Very, Light Bright Orange

I give up! Some day we will probably find ourselves with a Very, Very Bright
Orange that will end up less bright than the Very Bright Orange!
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  A bit pointless when compared to the other colours imo, still waiting for more
pieces in Olive Green

I agree tbh.

Some of the more recent colours are questionable and we could definitely do with
more olive green parts.

Some would say that we need mustard though....
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Pizza orange or solid orange or maybe orange (the fruit) orange
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No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480

What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...

Rylie
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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 Subject: Re: Outdated Help Center note?
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In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
  In reference to this "Colors - Additional Notes" help page: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1096&q=color

Isn't the note on medium violet outdated, as of the addition of Lilac?

The note on rust is also outdated. We know well by now that the "rust"
parts of 1979 - 1992, and those of 2004-2005, are intentional colors, being [TLG
13 - Red Orange] and [TLG 216 - Rust] respectively, and that the 1997- 2000 "Rust"
is just bad red [TLG 21 - Bright Red]. There's really no ambiguity to be
had there.


Both of those sections were indeed outdated and so have been removed. Thanks
for noticing.

Cheers,
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In reference to this "Colors - Additional Notes" help page: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1096&q=color

Isn't the note on medium violet outdated, as of the addition of Lilac?

The note on rust is also outdated. We know well by now that the "rust"
parts of 1979 - 1992, and those of 2004-2005, are intentional colors, being [TLG
13 - Red Orange] and [TLG 216 - Rust] respectively, and that the 1997- 2000 "Rust"
is just bad red [TLG 21 - Bright Red]. There's really no ambiguity to be
had there.
 Author: razorflan View Messages Posted By razorflan
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 Subject: Re: 64847 cattle horn short DARK TAN
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In Colors, iprice writes:
  In Colors, razorflan writes:
  64847 cattle horn short in dark tan. Does anyone have any idea where the dark
tan part appears as it is not in any figures or sets on BL, I have two and there
are two other sellers with one listed in dark tan.

Possibly from a newly released Lego set that hasn't been inventoried yet?

Not a new set as I have had them 3 or 4 years+
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In Colors, razorflan writes:
  64847 cattle horn short in dark tan. Does anyone have any idea where the dark
tan part appears as it is not in any figures or sets on BL, I have two and there
are two other sellers with one listed in dark tan.

Possibly from a newly released Lego set that hasn't been inventoried yet?
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64847 cattle horn short in dark tan. Does anyone have any idea where the dark
tan part appears as it is not in any figures or sets on BL, I have two and there
are two other sellers with one listed in dark tan.
 
 Author: WOLKsite View Messages Posted By WOLKsite
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David

It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.

Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.

David

This information can be found on other websites. Some CS reps will direct you
to BrickLink, while others will dig through the database for info.

Some are available on Bricks & Pieces if you know how to dig through that, others
were viewable through older versions of Customer Service, though are now inaccessible
through the public view. LDD also has some in it, with questionable accuracy.
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In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David

It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.

Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.

David

This information can be found on other websites. Some CS reps will direct you
to BrickLink, while others will dig through the database for info.
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David

It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.

Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.

David
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In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David

It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.

If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?

David

The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David
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In Colors, brickerking writes:
  In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?

Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?

Here it is next to several other PDG parts, as well as a few Dark Bluish Gray
and Pearl Light Gray parts

If I had to guess, i'd say it came from build a minifigure (BAM) in LEGO
stores. They sometimes produce unique colours not in sets and not picked up by
BL.

That sounds plausible, I forgot all about BAM.
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In Colors, brickerking writes:
  In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?

Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?

Here it is next to several other PDG parts, as well as a few Dark Bluish Gray
and Pearl Light Gray parts

If I had to guess, i'd say it came from build a minifigure (BAM) in LEGO
stores. They sometimes produce unique colours not in sets and not picked up by
BL.

+1
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In Colors, mike1burns writes:
  Hard to tell, but it sure looks like that pirate falling off the stern is holding
a pearl dark grey sword. Set 7075

In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
  In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
  are you able to read the item number on it?

Oh I see you updated the number. The only thing I'm seeing are pirate sets
from 2004

Yes, my question is where this specific color (Pearl Dark Gray) came from as
it's not in the catalog at all. Perhaps it was an alternate possible color
in some sets and no one ever made note it?

The 2 swords in set
 
Set No: 7075  Name: Captain Redbeard's Pirate Ship
* 
7075-1 (Inv) Captain Redbeard's Pirate Ship
132 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1 Gear, 2004
Sets: 4 Juniors: Pirates
are
 
Part No: 43887  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Scimitar
* 
43887 Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Scimitar
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon {Dark Bluish Gray}
and Light Bluish Gray.

At least those were the colors ours came with.

Cass T
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Hard to tell, but it sure looks like that pirate falling off the stern is holding
a pearl dark grey sword. Set 7075

In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
  In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
  are you able to read the item number on it?

Oh I see you updated the number. The only thing I'm seeing are pirate sets
from 2004

Yes, my question is where this specific color (Pearl Dark Gray) came from as
it's not in the catalog at all. Perhaps it was an alternate possible color
in some sets and no one ever made note it?
 
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In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?

Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?

Here it is next to several other PDG parts, as well as a few Dark Bluish Gray
and Pearl Light Gray parts

If I had to guess, i'd say it came from build a minifigure (BAM) in LEGO
stores. They sometimes produce unique colours not in sets and not picked up by
BL.
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?

Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?

Here it is next to several other PDG parts, as well as a few Dark Bluish Gray
and Pearl Light Gray parts
 
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In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
  I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?

Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.

If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?

David

The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

My problem with BL not recognizing this color is the considerable overlap with
other similar colors.


Long ago I suggested we need an official color board, something issued/sold by
TLG. Something that contains one 2x2 tile for each color, with the TLG color
number printed on it in one corner. Something we can turn to as an absolute reference
palette.

One baseplate (a 48x48 could handle 576 reference tiles), and a few bags of tiles
to be applied to the baseplate.


Nita Rae
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In Colors, cosmicray writes:
  (...) Was this an intentional color or was this something that just happened.

This was an intentional colour. LEGO's official colour number and name are
225 Warm Yellowish Orange.

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