Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 16:27 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.
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Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.
Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.
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No, no, no. That’s the hill I chose to die for!
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 15:22 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, 1001bricks writes:
| | If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.
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Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.
Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.
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No, no, no. That’s the hill I chose to die for!
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Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 15:18 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| | If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.
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Yep but they aren't English, they're USAians.
Like they call cheese what's not cheese; so they can say this color is Blue,
it'd be fine.
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Author: | tec | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 15:07 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Eheh subtle and funny
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 15:02 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, wildchicken13 writes:
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Vermillion is a fancy English word for a bright reddish orange color similar
to the one shown above. Some shades are more reddish and some are more orangish,
but it's an apt description, at least in English, the Lingua Franca
of the internet. I understand that vermillon has a different meaning in Français.
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If you read the links I provided, you’ll see English ‘vermilion’ and French ‘vermillon’
have the same meaning, which is not a reddish orange but an orangish red.
That this meaning had been used to describe more colours (see again the reference
for “web vermilion,” with the use of the qualificative “web” to mark its deviation
from the main meaning), while still staying a ‘fancy’/rare word that no one uses
or really understands just adds reasons not to use it for this new LEGO colour.
Let’s sum this up:
— if you take the original meaning, it’s not the same colour,
— few know the word,
— its meaning has been expanded enough and transformed enough between languages
(one can read the wiktionary entries in other languages to see the different
colour swatches) to become at best vague, and at worst confusing.
Why would one want to use that word?
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But Reddish Orange and Vibrant Orange are both good names for this particular
color, at least in my own personal opinion.
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Exactly.
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Author: | tec | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 15:01 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Fanta orange
Nothing sounds more bricklinkish than naming colors in spite of Bigplasticorp
directives.
I still remember when someone tackled a new entry with a blunt "alien pee
green"... lol... and it was a yellow at that time... rofl.
Keep up the good humour pals.
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Author: | WOLKsite | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 14:53 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
I'd keep it simple and go for "Reddish Orange".
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Although, since the yellowish orange colors have been named "light orange"
on here, that implies darker colors should skew in the opposite direction of
red, and given that 402 is slightly darker and could fit in a gradient from orange
to dark orange, I also propose Medium Dark Orange (please no)
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Author: | WOLKsite | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 14:51 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
I'd keep it simple and go for "Reddish Orange".
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Author: | wildchicken13 | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 14:34 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
Trans-Black (2024)
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Author: | wildchicken13 | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 14:32 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| Maybe Blood Orange? Has anybody cut one of the new bricks yet?
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No, but I've cut myself on one of them.
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Author: | wildchicken13 | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 14:31 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| Please no. Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun.
Colours are already complicated enough.
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Please no. Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun.
Languages are already complicated enough.
Anyway, I think this more of a language/description issue than a color issue.
Vermillion is a fancy English word for a bright reddish orange color similar
to the one shown above. Some shades are more reddish and some are more orangish,
but it's an apt description, at least in English, the Lingua Franca
of the internet. I understand that vermillon has a different meaning in Français.
However, the catalog administrators seem to shy away naming colors using fancy
and/or obscure English words. Dark Red could be described as burgundy or maroon
and Bright Red could be described as crimson or scarlet. One possible exception
is Nougat, if only to avoid the racial connotations of flesh, tan, and off-white.
But Reddish Orange and Vibrant Orange are both good names for this particular
color, at least in my own personal opinion.
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 14:03 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| No mustard! It should be called orange orange to reference the fruit it’s based
off of
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Author: | 1001bricks | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 14:00 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, peregrinator writes:
| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
Carrot Orange would be the obvious choice.
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Clementine Orange?
Would be nice taste to mix Nougat and Clementine.
And Mustard of course.
No, disgusting, but then we should make a petition to add Mustard as a BrickLink
color!!!
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Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 12:12 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 54 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
Carrot Orange would be the obvious choice.
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 11:56 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, jennnifer writes:
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Ooh... how about Persimmon?
~Jen
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No problem with me… except a persimmon is lighter than an orange. (Fun fact:
a persimmon is called kaki in French… which is also the French word for
khaki (the khaki green colour) )
Maybe Blood Orange? Has anyboy cut one of the new bricks yet?
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 11:51 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
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You mean like “Lilac”? What about “Violet”? Everybody is going to give you a
different answer.
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More reasons not to add to past wrongdoings
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Author: | jennnifer | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 11:44 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| “Vermillion” gets my vote.
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Please no. Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun.
Colours are already complicated enough.
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Ooh... how about Persimmon?
~Jen
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Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 11:37 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| “Vermillion” gets my vote.
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Please no. Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun.
Colours are already complicated enough.
In French, and correctly (etymologically, not because I’m French ), vermillon
is rouge vif (bright red). It’s a red that tire vers l’orangé
(goes towards some oranged tint), not some kind of orange that goes towards red.
Colour patches in these entries:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermilion
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermillon
French Wiktionary shows the real pigment (HgS). Not the same colour as the LEGO
colour.
You can see the English entry has two patches: one closer to the French entry
and one more orange, called “web vermilion,” that could look like the new LEGO
colour.
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You mean like “Lilac”? What about “Violet”? Everybody is going to give you a
different answer.
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 11:29 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| “Vermillion” gets my vote.
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Please no. Stop taking words and giving them other definitions just for fun.
Colours are already complicated enough.
In French, and correctly (etymologically, not because I’m French ), vermillon
is rouge vif (bright red). It’s a red that tire vers l’orangé
(goes towards some oranged tint), not some kind of orange that goes towards red.
Colour patches in these entries:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermilion
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/vermillon
French Wiktionary shows the real pigment (HgS). Not the same colour as the LEGO
colour.
You can see the English entry has two patches: one closer to the French entry
and one more orange, called “web vermilion,” that could look like the new LEGO
colour.
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Author: | uticabrix | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 11:27 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| In Colors, uticabrix writes:
| LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.
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Make a petition on change.org?
(For LEGO to adopt BrickLink names, of course )
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Agreed!!
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Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 11:10 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 50 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| “Vermillion” gets my vote. |
Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 10:58 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, uticabrix writes:
| LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.
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Make a petition on change.org?
(For LEGO to adopt BrickLink names, of course )
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Author: | uticabrix | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 10:49 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| LEGO/Bricklink needs to get their color names using the same names on each platform.
In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 10:27 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, jennnifer writes:
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But then, I am a cool color person.
~Jen
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(Beware the sharks )
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Author: | jennnifer | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 09:29 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, axaday writes:
| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
Neon Orange, I am sure.
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I would call it Baby Food Orange. It's blech.
But then, I am a cool color person.
~Jen
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 07:12 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
Neon Orange, I am sure.
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Author: | Stuart9 | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 06:29 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Like the idea about that one :
Less bright very bright orange.
In Colors, infinibrix writes:
| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
Ideally we should be calling them exactly what Lego call them especially when
it comes to the more obscure colours where these newly introduced colours are
becoming ever more similar to existing shades. In these situations we need absolute
clarity and using different names to what Lego use will never help with that
clarity
Though I suspect it will be called something like:-
Bright Orange if not already taken or
Very Bright Orange
Very, Very Bright Orange
Very, Light Bright Orange
Very, Very, Light Bright Orange
I give up! Some day we will probably find ourselves with a Very, Very Bright
Orange that will end up less bright than the Very Bright Orange!
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Author: | infinibrix | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 06:05 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 65 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
Ideally we should be calling them exactly what Lego call them especially when
it comes to the more obscure colours where these newly introduced colours are
becoming ever more similar to existing shades. In these situations we need absolute
clarity and using different names to what Lego use will never help with that
clarity
Though I suspect it will be called something like:-
Bright Orange if not already taken or
Very Bright Orange
Very, Very Bright Orange
Very, Light Bright Orange
Very, Very, Light Bright Orange
I give up! Some day we will probably find ourselves with a Very, Very Bright
Orange that will end up less bright than the Very Bright Orange!
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Author: | iprice | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 04:57 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, UTLF writes:
| A bit pointless when compared to the other colours imo, still waiting for more
pieces in Olive Green
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I agree tbh.
Some of the more recent colours are questionable and we could definitely do with
more olive green parts.
Some would say that we need mustard though....
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 00:16 | Subject: | Re: New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 60 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Pizza orange or solid orange or maybe orange (the fruit) orange |
Author: | rylie_aitch | Posted: | Dec 30, 2023 00:12 | Subject: | New Color for 2024 :) | Viewed: | 333 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| No image because the BrickLink image compression muted it to a Dark Orange
It's slightly neon in person!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/53430541480
What will BrickLink call it? I've heard it called both "Reddish Orange"
and "Vibrant Orange" from Lego...
Rylie
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Dec 7, 2023 13:33 | Subject: | Re: Outdated Help Center note? | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WOLKsite writes:
| In reference to this "Colors - Additional Notes" help page: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1096&q=color
Isn't the note on medium violet outdated, as of the addition of Lilac?
The note on rust is also outdated. We know well by now that the "rust"
parts of 1979 - 1992, and those of 2004-2005, are intentional colors, being [TLG
13 - Red Orange] and [TLG 216 - Rust] respectively, and that the 1997- 2000 "Rust"
is just bad red [TLG 21 - Bright Red]. There's really no ambiguity to be
had there.
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Both of those sections were indeed outdated and so have been removed. Thanks
for noticing.
Cheers,
Randy
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Author: | WOLKsite | Posted: | Dec 7, 2023 03:02 | Subject: | Outdated Help Center note? | Viewed: | 71 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| In reference to this "Colors - Additional Notes" help page: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1096&q=color
Isn't the note on medium violet outdated, as of the addition of Lilac?
The note on rust is also outdated. We know well by now that the "rust"
parts of 1979 - 1992, and those of 2004-2005, are intentional colors, being [TLG
13 - Red Orange] and [TLG 216 - Rust] respectively, and that the 1997- 2000 "Rust"
is just bad red [TLG 21 - Bright Red]. There's really no ambiguity to be
had there.
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Author: | razorflan | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 10:34 | Subject: | Re: 64847 cattle horn short DARK TAN | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, iprice writes:
| In Colors, razorflan writes:
| 64847 cattle horn short in dark tan. Does anyone have any idea where the dark
tan part appears as it is not in any figures or sets on BL, I have two and there
are two other sellers with one listed in dark tan.
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Possibly from a newly released Lego set that hasn't been inventoried yet?
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Not a new set as I have had them 3 or 4 years+
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Author: | iprice | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 01:04 | Subject: | Re: 64847 cattle horn short DARK TAN | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, razorflan writes:
| 64847 cattle horn short in dark tan. Does anyone have any idea where the dark
tan part appears as it is not in any figures or sets on BL, I have two and there
are two other sellers with one listed in dark tan.
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Possibly from a newly released Lego set that hasn't been inventoried yet?
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Author: | razorflan | Posted: | Nov 29, 2023 18:04 | Subject: | 64847 cattle horn short DARK TAN | Viewed: | 94 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| 64847 cattle horn short in dark tan. Does anyone have any idea where the dark
tan part appears as it is not in any figures or sets on BL, I have two and there
are two other sellers with one listed in dark tan.
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Author: | WOLKsite | Posted: | Nov 21, 2023 13:21 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Colors, axaday writes:
| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.
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How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?
David
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It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.
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Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.
David
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This information can be found on other websites. Some CS reps will direct you
to BrickLink, while others will dig through the database for info.
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Some are available on Bricks & Pieces if you know how to dig through that, others
were viewable through older versions of Customer Service, though are now inaccessible
through the public view. LDD also has some in it, with questionable accuracy.
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Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Nov 21, 2023 13:06 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Colors, axaday writes:
| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.
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How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?
David
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It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.
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Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.
David
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This information can be found on other websites. Some CS reps will direct you
to BrickLink, while others will dig through the database for info.
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Author: | crazylegoman | Posted: | Nov 21, 2023 12:30 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, axaday writes:
| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.
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How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?
David
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It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.
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Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.
David
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Nov 21, 2023 09:10 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.
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How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?
David
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It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.
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Author: | crazylegoman | Posted: | Nov 21, 2023 09:08 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.
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If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?
David
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The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.
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How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?
David
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Author: | WilliamRaine | Posted: | Nov 20, 2023 16:52 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, brickerking writes:
| In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?
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Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?
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Here it is next to several other PDG parts, as well as a few Dark Bluish Gray
and Pearl Light Gray parts
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If I had to guess, i'd say it came from build a minifigure (BAM) in LEGO
stores. They sometimes produce unique colours not in sets and not picked up by
BL.
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That sounds plausible, I forgot all about BAM.
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Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Nov 20, 2023 00:43 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, brickerking writes:
| In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?
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Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?
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Here it is next to several other PDG parts, as well as a few Dark Bluish Gray
and Pearl Light Gray parts
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If I had to guess, i'd say it came from build a minifigure (BAM) in LEGO
stores. They sometimes produce unique colours not in sets and not picked up by
BL.
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+1
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Author: | pcthurman | Posted: | Nov 20, 2023 00:25 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 27 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, mike1burns writes:
| Hard to tell, but it sure looks like that pirate falling off the stern is holding
a pearl dark grey sword. Set 7075
In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
| In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
| are you able to read the item number on it?
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Oh I see you updated the number. The only thing I'm seeing are pirate sets
from 2004
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Yes, my question is where this specific color (Pearl Dark Gray) came from as
it's not in the catalog at all. Perhaps it was an alternate possible color
in some sets and no one ever made note it?
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The 2 swords in set are and Light Bluish Gray.
At least those were the colors ours came with.
Cass T
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Author: | 0to60 | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 23:39 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Hard to tell, but it sure looks like that pirate falling off the stern is holding
a pearl dark grey sword. Set 7075
In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
| In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
| are you able to read the item number on it?
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Oh I see you updated the number. The only thing I'm seeing are pirate sets
from 2004
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Yes, my question is where this specific color (Pearl Dark Gray) came from as
it's not in the catalog at all. Perhaps it was an alternate possible color
in some sets and no one ever made note it?
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Author: | brickerking | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 23:31 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?
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Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?
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Here it is next to several other PDG parts, as well as a few Dark Bluish Gray
and Pearl Light Gray parts
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If I had to guess, i'd say it came from build a minifigure (BAM) in LEGO
stores. They sometimes produce unique colours not in sets and not picked up by
BL.
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Author: | WilliamRaine | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 21:32 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?
|
Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?
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Here it is next to several other PDG parts, as well as a few Dark Bluish Gray
and Pearl Light Gray parts
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Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 18:28 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, WilliamRaine writes:
| I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?
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Sure looks like modern Pearl Dark Gray, but I can’t find a unique production
number for this part in that color. How does it look next to other PDG parts?
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Author: | cosmicray | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 11:46 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.
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If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?
David
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The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.
My problem with BL not recognizing this color is the considerable overlap with
other similar colors.
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Long ago I suggested we need an official color board, something issued/sold by
TLG. Something that contains one 2x2 tile for each color, with the TLG color
number printed on it in one corner. Something we can turn to as an absolute reference
palette.
One baseplate (a 48x48 could handle 576 reference tiles), and a few bags of tiles
to be applied to the baseplate.
Nita Rae
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Author: | WoutR | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 11:01 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, cosmicray writes:
| (...) Was this an intentional color or was this something that just happened.
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This was an intentional colour. LEGO's official colour number and name are
225 Warm Yellowish Orange.
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Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 11:00 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 54 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.
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If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?
David
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The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.
My problem with BL not recognizing this color is the considerable overlap with
other similar colors. Many of the same parts exist in all three colors. Correction:
24* parts
3005 - 4243861
3004 - 4243862
3622 - 4243863
3009 - 4243865
3010 - 4243866
3008 - 4243867
2357 - 4243868
3003 - 4243869
3002 - 4243871
3001 - 4243872
44237 - 4243873
3007 - 4243874
3024 - 4243875
3023 - 4243876
3623 - 4243877
3710 - 4243878
3022 - 4243879
3021 - 4243880
3020 - 4243881
3794 - 4243882
3070 - 4243883
3069 - 4243885
6541 - 4243886
3700 - 4244445
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Author: | cosmicray | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 10:19 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.
|
If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?
David
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What we call an element number is in fact a factory floor production number,
identifying a unique mold and color (pellet or pigment). If the parts were actually
made, even for the model shop, they should have had a 7-digit number for production
identification. Where an intended color, collides with dye/pigment variations,
is the big question here. Was this an intentional color or was this something
that just happened.
2004 was the moment in time when quite a bit of excess odd and ends were being
flushed to the bonus boxes. Bonus boxes were inventoried based on our best understanding
of what the colors were, but something really beyond normal availability might
have slipped thru with a slightly incorrect color. The bonus boxes also received
some parts, in a few colors, where the color consistency wandered all over the
map (to put it mildly).
Nita Rae
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Nov 18, 2023 18:49 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 61 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| here4bricks614 knows everything (what are next week's lottery numbers here4bricks614?) |
Author: | crazylegoman | Posted: | Nov 18, 2023 18:23 | Subject: | Re: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange | Viewed: | 74 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
| Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.
|
If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?
David
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Author: | WilliamRaine | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 18:21 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 63 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
| In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
| are you able to read the item number on it?
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Oh I see you updated the number. The only thing I'm seeing are pirate sets
from 2004
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Yes, my question is where this specific color (Pearl Dark Gray) came from as
it's not in the catalog at all. Perhaps it was an alternate possible color
in some sets and no one ever made note it?
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Author: | kittybrickz | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 18:14 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Catalog Identification, kittybrickz writes:
| are you able to read the item number on it?
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Oh I see you updated the number. The only thing I'm seeing are pirate sets
from 2004
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Author: | kittybrickz | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 18:12 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| are you able to read the item number on it? |
Author: | WilliamRaine | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 18:12 | Subject: | Re: Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 56 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Catalog Identification, WilliamRaine writes:
| I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?
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This is the part number by the way
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Author: | WilliamRaine | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 18:11 | Subject: | Where does this sword come from? | Viewed: | 161 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| I received this sword and it is clearly Pearl Dark Gray in color, have been looking
for one in Dark Bluish Gray. I can't find any sets on the website that include
this sword in Pearl Dark Gray, so where did it come from?
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Author: | WoutR | Posted: | Nov 15, 2023 02:32 | Subject: | Re: Silver chrome 3001 variants | Viewed: | 45 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| In Colors, robertomcevoya writes:
| Hi
I recently sold a silver chrome 3001 which the buyer is not happy with saying
its an anniversary edition. Does anyone know of any specific variants?
I naively thought a silver chrome 3001 was a silver chrome 3001.
Cheers
Rob
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They were all released in 1998–1999, so there shouldn't be much of a difference
if any among different chrome silver bricks apart from condition:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=3001&colorID=22&in=A
The Chrome Gold one can look a lot more silverish than the chrome gold keychains,
I wonder if there's some confusion with that... otherwise I've no idea
what the buyer could mean.
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These are my chrome silver "anniversary" bricks. Mould number 06 inside.
I don't understand which other chrome silver 3001 your buyer could have wanted.
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Nov 14, 2023 22:25 | Subject: | Re: Bionicle Krana Mask Bo in pearl gold? 42042bo | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| looks like reddish gold
from these 2 sets
the few listings are probably just misidentified colours
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Author: | madeleine_ | Posted: | Nov 14, 2023 22:21 | Subject: | Bionicle Krana Mask Bo in pearl gold? 42042bo | Viewed: | 60 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| there's only a few listings of this color that appeared 2 years before any
other appearance anywhere else. super weird i think. anyone have any information
on this?
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Author: | rylie_aitch | Posted: | Nov 14, 2023 18:10 | Subject: | Re: Silver chrome 3001 variants | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, rylie_aitch writes:
| In Colors, robertomcevoya writes:
| Hi
I recently sold a silver chrome 3001 which the buyer is not happy with saying
its an anniversary edition. Does anyone know of any specific variants?
I naively thought a silver chrome 3001 was a silver chrome 3001.
Cheers
Rob
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They were all released in 1998–1999, so there shouldn't be much of a difference
if any among different chrome silver bricks apart from condition:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=3001&colorID=22&in=A
The Chrome Gold one can look a lot more silverish than the chrome gold keychains,
I wonder if there's some confusion with that... otherwise I've no idea
what the buyer could mean.
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Actually, there is a modern Chrome Silver 3001, easy to tell apart by looking
underneath and checking the mould numbers. This modern version was recently sourced
directly from one of Lego's suppliers, is the story I heard. But there have
also been many people custom chroming their own bricks over the years so who
knows.
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Author: | rylie_aitch | Posted: | Nov 14, 2023 18:06 | Subject: | Re: Silver chrome 3001 variants | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, robertomcevoya writes:
| Hi
I recently sold a silver chrome 3001 which the buyer is not happy with saying
its an anniversary edition. Does anyone know of any specific variants?
I naively thought a silver chrome 3001 was a silver chrome 3001.
Cheers
Rob
|
They were all released in 1998–1999, so there shouldn't be much of a difference
if any among different chrome silver bricks apart from condition:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=3001&colorID=22&in=A
The Chrome Gold one can look a lot more silverish than the chrome gold keychains,
I wonder if there's some confusion with that... otherwise I've no idea
what the buyer could mean.
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Author: | ToastBubbles | Posted: | Nov 14, 2023 17:47 | Subject: | Re: Silver chrome 3001 variants | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, robertomcevoya writes:
| Hi
I recently sold a silver chrome 3001 which the buyer is not happy with saying
its an anniversary edition. Does anyone know of any specific variants?
I naively thought a silver chrome 3001 was a silver chrome 3001.
Cheers
Rob
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Maybe the buyer confused it with the Metallic Silver version? That's my best
guess 🤷♂️ You listed it as "Chrome Silver" correct?
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Author: | robertomcevoya | Posted: | Nov 14, 2023 17:16 | Subject: | Silver chrome 3001 variants | Viewed: | 93 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi
I recently sold a silver chrome 3001 which the buyer is not happy with saying
its an anniversary edition. Does anyone know of any specific variants?
I naively thought a silver chrome 3001 was a silver chrome 3001.
Cheers
Rob
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Author: | maxlego | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 16:52 | Subject: | Re: Different Shade Light Bluish Grey in same set | Viewed: | 33 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Unfortunately, Legos quality control took a big step back about 15-18 years ago
and hasn't improved much over time. Many colors have different shades now.
Pearl gold is a big one where I have noticed about 4 different shades of that
one color alone. Some mixed together like you noticed in sets and some reasonably
stable. Nowadays you tend to get damaged pieces, missing pieces or extra pieces
not belonging to the actual set. Extremely rare if had these issues with older
sets. Colors were mostly stable. Some exceptions are out there though.
Getting a few customers now and then asking if I have the older type white in
some parts instead of the newer white. Huge difference between whites made 15+
years ago compared to now.
Brett.
In Colors, loggedin writes:
| Hi,
I'm going through some old Lego Star Wars Lego sets.
At the moment I'm looking at 10188 Death Star.
I didn't even open all the boxes on this set and all parts or original.
See the 2 x images below:
The image on the left is slightly less 'blueish' then the one on the
right.
Flipped over (the less blueish one is now on the right), the underside is a lot
more glossy where as the (IMO) true light blueish grey is a more matt finish
on the underside.
There are about 8 of each in this set and all of the left have one shade, all
of the other have the slightly different shade.
I think I'm seeing this in other Star Wars sets from around the same too
where the greys are ever so slightly different.
Why is this? Have I somehow mixed pieces up - which would be difficult seeing
as I don't have those lager grey pieces anywhere else?
Appreciate some advice!
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Author: | loggedin | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 14:51 | Subject: | Re: Different Shade Light Bluish Grey in same set | Viewed: | 34 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, outofthe60s writes:
| In Colors, loggedin writes:
| Hi,
I'm going through some old Lego Star Wars Lego sets.
At the moment I'm looking at 10188 Death Star.
I didn't even open all the boxes on this set and all parts or original.
See the 2 x images below:
The image on the left is slightly less 'blueish' then the one on the
right.
Flipped over (the less blueish one is now on the right), the underside is a lot
more glossy where as the (IMO) true light blueish grey is a more matt finish
on the underside.
There are about 8 of each in this set and all of the left have one shade, all
of the other have the slightly different shade.
I think I'm seeing this in other Star Wars sets from around the same too
where the greys are ever so slightly different.
Why is this? Have I somehow mixed pieces up - which would be difficult seeing
as I don't have those lager grey pieces anywhere else?
Appreciate some advice!
|
I added this disclaimer to my terms and conditions page.
"Some parts, especially Dark Red, Pearl Gold and Light Bluish Gray (amongst
others), have been manufactured in various shades. Please be aware that these
shades are not differentiated in my listings and that you may get parts with
different shades."
Feel free to use this or something similar. Any suggestions for better wording
are appreciated.
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Thanks @everyone, nice to know it is an actual 'thing' and not me questioning
my memory!
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Author: | outofthe60s | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 13:46 | Subject: | Re: Different Shade Light Bluish Grey in same set | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, loggedin writes:
| Hi,
I'm going through some old Lego Star Wars Lego sets.
At the moment I'm looking at 10188 Death Star.
I didn't even open all the boxes on this set and all parts or original.
See the 2 x images below:
The image on the left is slightly less 'blueish' then the one on the
right.
Flipped over (the less blueish one is now on the right), the underside is a lot
more glossy where as the (IMO) true light blueish grey is a more matt finish
on the underside.
There are about 8 of each in this set and all of the left have one shade, all
of the other have the slightly different shade.
I think I'm seeing this in other Star Wars sets from around the same too
where the greys are ever so slightly different.
Why is this? Have I somehow mixed pieces up - which would be difficult seeing
as I don't have those lager grey pieces anywhere else?
Appreciate some advice!
|
I added this disclaimer to my terms and conditions page.
"Some parts, especially Dark Red, Pearl Gold and Light Bluish Gray (amongst
others), have been manufactured in various shades. Please be aware that these
shades are not differentiated in my listings and that you may get parts with
different shades."
Feel free to use this or something similar. Any suggestions for better wording
are appreciated.
|
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Author: | here4bricks614 | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 13:32 | Subject: | Re: Different Shade Light Bluish Grey in same set | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, loggedin writes:
| Hi,
I'm going through some old Lego Star Wars Lego sets.
At the moment I'm looking at 10188 Death Star.
I didn't even open all the boxes on this set and all parts or original.
See the 2 x images below:
The image on the left is slightly less 'blueish' then the one on the
right.
Flipped over (the less blueish one is now on the right), the underside is a lot
more glossy where as the (IMO) true light blueish grey is a more matt finish
on the underside.
There are about 8 of each in this set and all of the left have one shade, all
of the other have the slightly different shade.
I think I'm seeing this in other Star Wars sets from around the same too
where the greys are ever so slightly different.
Why is this? Have I somehow mixed pieces up - which would be difficult seeing
as I don't have those lager grey pieces anywhere else?
Appreciate some advice!
|
Is one more translucent?
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Author: | cosmicray | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 13:29 | Subject: | Re: Different Shade Light Bluish Grey in same set | Viewed: | 29 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, loggedin writes:
| Hi,
I'm going through some old Lego Star Wars Lego sets.
At the moment I'm looking at 10188 Death Star.
I didn't even open all the boxes on this set and all parts or original.
See the 2 x images below:
The image on the left is slightly less 'blueish' then the one on the
right.
Flipped over (the less blueish one is now on the right), the underside is a lot
more glossy where as the (IMO) true light blueish grey is a more matt finish
on the underside.
There are about 8 of each in this set and all of the left have one shade, all
of the other have the slightly different shade.
I think I'm seeing this in other Star Wars sets from around the same too
where the greys are ever so slightly different.
Why is this? Have I somehow mixed pieces up - which would be difficult seeing
as I don't have those lager grey pieces anywhere else?
Appreciate some advice!
|
That set was released in 2008, so 15 years ago. I have witnessed parts, from
sealed sets, that were subtly changing hues. If all of one part is one shade,
and all of the other part is different, it may be down to the age of the parts,
how they were stored at the factory, and any number of factors over that time
span.
Nita Rae
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Author: | outofthe60s | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 13:25 | Subject: | Re: Different Shade Light Bluish Grey in same set | Viewed: | 26 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, loggedin writes:
| Hi,
I'm going through some old Lego Star Wars Lego sets.
At the moment I'm looking at 10188 Death Star.
I didn't even open all the boxes on this set and all parts or original.
See the 2 x images below:
The image on the left is slightly less 'blueish' then the one on the
right.
Flipped over (the less blueish one is now on the right), the underside is a lot
more glossy where as the (IMO) true light blueish grey is a more matt finish
on the underside.
There are about 8 of each in this set and all of the left have one shade, all
of the other have the slightly different shade.
I think I'm seeing this in other Star Wars sets from around the same too
where the greys are ever so slightly different.
Why is this? Have I somehow mixed pieces up - which would be difficult seeing
as I don't have those lager grey pieces anywhere else?
Appreciate some advice!
|
I have run across the same issue. Especially with Star Wars sets but have seen
it in others too. I'm not really sure why this is but you're not going
crazy.
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Author: | jennnifer | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 13:25 | Subject: | Re: Different Shade Light Bluish Grey in same set | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, loggedin writes:
| Hi,
I'm going through some old Lego Star Wars Lego sets.
At the moment I'm looking at 10188 Death Star.
I didn't even open all the boxes on this set and all parts or original.
See the 2 x images below:
The image on the left is slightly less 'blueish' then the one on the
right.
Flipped over (the less blueish one is now on the right), the underside is a lot
more glossy where as the (IMO) true light blueish grey is a more matt finish
on the underside.
There are about 8 of each in this set and all of the left have one shade, all
of the other have the slightly different shade.
I think I'm seeing this in other Star Wars sets from around the same too
where the greys are ever so slightly different.
Why is this? Have I somehow mixed pieces up - which would be difficult seeing
as I don't have those lager grey pieces anywhere else?
Appreciate some advice!
|
Lots of this going around:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1342522
~Jen
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Author: | loggedin | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 13:13 | Subject: | Different Shade Light Bluish Grey in same set | Viewed: | 118 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi,
I'm going through some old Lego Star Wars Lego sets.
At the moment I'm looking at 10188 Death Star.
I didn't even open all the boxes on this set and all parts or original.
See the 2 x images below:
The image on the left is slightly less 'blueish' then the one on the
right.
Flipped over (the less blueish one is now on the right), the underside is a lot
more glossy where as the (IMO) true light blueish grey is a more matt finish
on the underside.
There are about 8 of each in this set and all of the left have one shade, all
of the other have the slightly different shade.
I think I'm seeing this in other Star Wars sets from around the same too
where the greys are ever so slightly different.
Why is this? Have I somehow mixed pieces up - which would be difficult seeing
as I don't have those lager grey pieces anywhere else?
Appreciate some advice!
|
|
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Author: | macebobo | Posted: | Nov 2, 2023 18:12 | Subject: | Re: Colours for sale VS Known colours | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, axaday writes:
| There isn’t a list anywhere of every color that might exist. “Known” means it was in a set, officially mass produced and released. Others get made as tests or prototypes or employees using the machines on their own project or whatever, but we cannot make a comprehensive list of everything ever done. So people can sell what they have even if it isn’t “known”.
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+1 and Q elements is part of the whatever .
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Author: | WOLKsite | Posted: | Nov 2, 2023 16:54 | Subject: | Re: Colours for sale VS Known colours | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, axaday writes:
| There isn’t a list anywhere of every color that might exist. “Known” means it
was in a set, officially mass produced and released. Others get made as tests
or prototypes or employees using the machines on their own project or whatever,
but we cannot make a comprehensive list of everything ever done. So people can
sell what they have even if it isn’t “known”.
|
To further elaborate, the seller's listing might also not be accurate. If
it isn't a known color, and there isn't a note on the listing, then probably
verify with the seller.
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Author: | axaday | Posted: | Nov 2, 2023 16:36 | Subject: | Re: Colours for sale VS Known colours | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Shaggy_Rogers writes:
| Hi!
I collect all kinds of bricks and parts, and the goal of my collection is to
have 1 of every colour of every type of brick/part/element. So for example, 1
of every colour of part 3021. But the problem I keep coming across is that when
I go on a catalog page for a part, often there are many more colour variants
for sale than there are colours that are known. For example, going back to part
3021, I know for a fact that there is a pearl light grey colour variant because
I own one, and yet it is not listed as a known colour. Other people are also
selling part 3021 in pearl light grey so I don't know why it isn't a
known colour.
Can someone please explain to me why there is very frequently a difference between
the colours for sale and the known colours? I appreciate that occasionally a
seller might misidentify a colour (e.g. sell it as Medium Nougat when it is actually
Nougat), and that even less occasionally there might be some fakes entering circulation
on the market, but surely this doesn't account for the many catalog items
lacking known colours when they are for sale? It is making it very difficult
as a collector to know if I should purchase colours that are for sale but are
not "known" in case they are not genuine or are mislabelled.
All opinions appreciated.
Many thanks,
Lucas
|
There isn’t a list anywhere of every color that might exist. “Known” means it
was in a set, officially mass produced and released. Others get made as tests
or prototypes or employees using the machines on their own project or whatever,
but we cannot make a comprehensive list of everything ever done. So people can
sell what they have even if it isn’t “known”.
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Nov 2, 2023 14:47 | Subject: | Re: Colours for sale VS Known colours | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Shaggy_Rogers writes:
| Hi!
I collect all kinds of bricks and parts, and the goal of my collection is to
have 1 of every colour of every type of brick/part/element. So for example, 1
of every colour of part 3021. But the problem I keep coming across is that when
I go on a catalog page for a part, often there are many more colour variants
for sale than there are colours that are known. For example, going back to part
3021, I know for a fact that there is a pearl light grey colour variant because
I own one, and yet it is not listed as a known colour. Other people are also
selling part 3021 in pearl light grey so I don't know why it isn't a
known colour.
Can someone please explain to me why there is very frequently a difference between
the colours for sale and the known colours? I appreciate that occasionally a
seller might misidentify a colour (e.g. sell it as Medium Nougat when it is actually
Nougat), and that even less occasionally there might be some fakes entering circulation
on the market, but surely this doesn't account for the many catalog items
lacking known colours when they are for sale? It is making it very difficult
as a collector to know if I should purchase colours that are for sale but are
not "known" in case they are not genuine or are mislabelled.
All opinions appreciated.
Many thanks,
Lucas
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Known means that it appears in a Bricklink inventory for a set.
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Author: | Shaggy_Rogers | Posted: | Nov 2, 2023 14:42 | Subject: | Colours for sale VS Known colours | Viewed: | 92 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi!
I collect all kinds of bricks and parts, and the goal of my collection is to
have 1 of every colour of every type of brick/part/element. So for example, 1
of every colour of part 3021. But the problem I keep coming across is that when
I go on a catalog page for a part, often there are many more colour variants
for sale than there are colours that are known. For example, going back to part
3021, I know for a fact that there is a pearl light grey colour variant because
I own one, and yet it is not listed as a known colour. Other people are also
selling part 3021 in pearl light grey so I don't know why it isn't a
known colour.
Can someone please explain to me why there is very frequently a difference between
the colours for sale and the known colours? I appreciate that occasionally a
seller might misidentify a colour (e.g. sell it as Medium Nougat when it is actually
Nougat), and that even less occasionally there might be some fakes entering circulation
on the market, but surely this doesn't account for the many catalog items
lacking known colours when they are for sale? It is making it very difficult
as a collector to know if I should purchase colours that are for sale but are
not "known" in case they are not genuine or are mislabelled.
All opinions appreciated.
Many thanks,
Lucas
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Author: | Shiny_Stuff | Posted: | Oct 25, 2023 10:46 | Subject: | Re: Well, it's been 20 years... | Viewed: | 62 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, zorbanj writes:
| Any fans of the original dark gray vs dark bluish gray?
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ME.
I Still HATE Dark Bley.
When I build truly original stuff, I always use Old Dark Gray. The lack of new
elements means my stuff looks like it came from the 1990's, but I am okay
with that.
I, of course, am forced to use Dark Bley when building and modifying sets, and
I still hate it.
New Light Bley is an improvement over old Light Gray, which now looks old and
grubby, especially if the pieces have discolored. The lack of new elements in
Old Light Gray makes it extremely difficult to use for building anything with
SNOT techniques or with extensive textures, as is the current trend in building
styles for everything.
As for Reddish Brown versus Old Brown -- this change has never bothered me.
Mostly because we didn't have very many elements in Old Brown. We only
had Old Brown from 1996 to 2004 -- before that Old Brown was only used for
stuff like Minifig Weapons and a few other specialty elements like Bar ladders
and treasure chests and other containers. So, there wasn't much of Old Brown
to miss about it. I happen to own HUGE amounts of Old Brown in my personal collection,
but I think that is somewhat unusual.
Plus, Old Brown mixes very well with Reddish Brown and they can be used interchangeably
without looking bad or ugly. As well, both work equally well with Dark Brown,
Tan, and Dark Tan, as well as all other colors. Old Brown is so dark that it
doesn't photograph well, like Black.
Overall, I wish the color change had never happened.
It would have been better if it had happened years earlier, like say 1983, the
year before the first gray castle sets were released. Then, we would have never
seen Old Brown and Old Dark Gray; only Old Light Gray would have needed to be
changed.
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Author: | zorbanj | Posted: | Oct 25, 2023 09:18 | Subject: | Re: Well, it's been 20 years... | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| Any fans of the original dark gray vs dark bluish gray?
In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Off Topic, Darth_Smithy writes:
| ...and I still don't really like bley or reddish-brown.
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SAME! I buy the True Grays and True Brown whenever I can.
David
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Oct 25, 2023 03:43 | Subject: | Re: Well, it's been 20 years... | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Off Topic, Darth_Smithy writes:
| ...and I still don't really like bley or reddish-brown.
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SAME! I buy the True Grays and True Brown whenever I can.
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I prefer the modern colours. Maybe it is due to different lighting, or because
I don't use large expanses of single greys. For castles, I go for the weathered
look by using multiple earthy colours rather than just light grey (or any other
single colour) like castles of old.
But people wanting the old colours still is good, as they can sell for a premium.
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Oct 24, 2023 21:06 | Subject: | Re: Well, it's been 20 years... | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Darth_Smithy writes:
| In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Off Topic, Darth_Smithy writes:
| ...and I still don't really like bley or reddish-brown.
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SAME! I buy the True Grays and True Brown whenever I can.
David
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interesting. I much prefer the newer colours
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Only a dijon fan would make such a claim!
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Author: | Darth_Smithy | Posted: | Oct 24, 2023 21:04 | Subject: | Re: Well, it's been 20 years... | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Nubs_Select writes:
| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Off Topic, Darth_Smithy writes:
| ...and I still don't really like bley or reddish-brown.
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SAME! I buy the True Grays and True Brown whenever I can.
David
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interesting. I much prefer the newer colours
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Only a dijon fan would make such a claim!
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Oct 24, 2023 21:02 | Subject: | Re: Well, it's been 20 years... | Viewed: | 46 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
| In Off Topic, Darth_Smithy writes:
| ...and I still don't really like bley or reddish-brown.
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SAME! I buy the True Grays and True Brown whenever I can.
David
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interesting. I much prefer the newer colours
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Author: | crazylegoman | Posted: | Oct 24, 2023 20:57 | Subject: | Re: Well, it's been 20 years... | Viewed: | 63 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Off Topic, Darth_Smithy writes:
| ...and I still don't really like bley or reddish-brown.
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SAME! I buy the True Grays and True Brown whenever I can.
David
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Author: | randyf | Posted: | Oct 19, 2023 17:36 | Subject: | Re: Part number 18822 | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Megamech writes:
| Part no 18822 is available in medium lavender as a part of Build a minifigure
stands in 2023. I couldnt figure out how to add it to the database. Thanks.
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The only parts that are added to the special "inventories" of BaM parts
such as
are parts that have never appeared anywhere else.
Since
has appeared elsewhere, it will not be included in the BaM inventory.
Cheers,
Randy
P.S. Now if the part you found has number 86224 molded in it, I have further
questions.
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Author: | Megamech | Posted: | Oct 18, 2023 18:20 | Subject: | Part number 18822 | Viewed: | 62 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| Part no 18822 is available in medium lavender as a part of Build a minifigure
stands in 2023. I couldnt figure out how to add it to the database. Thanks.
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Oct 17, 2023 14:47 | Subject: | Re: Do the colour shades of the bricks get change | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Gligo writes:
| Hello! I was wondering if the same colour shades for bricks get changed over
the years. For example, would a black or dark bluish grey brick today be the
exact same shade the same brick had 20 years ago or more? I know there are different
types of shades for colours like blue or grey, but a brick listed as being dark
bluish grey today and one listed as being dark bluish grey in the 90s or 2000s
are the exact same brick, right?
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Nope.
In 2003-2004, LEGO changed almost all their colours. That’s known as “The Great
Colour Shift” (name trademarked by SylvainLS).
People only see/remember the 3 colours that were discontinued, Light Gray, Dark
Gray, and Brown and the new colour created to replace them, LBG, DBG, and Reddish
Brown, but actually many other colours changed or were replaced.
See http://www.ryanhowerter.net/colors.php for accurate dates.
So, “20 years ago” was 2003, when all the colours changed and DBG (your example)
just started to exist
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Author: | iprice | Posted: | Oct 17, 2023 14:21 | Subject: | Re: Do the colour shades of the bricks get change | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Gligo writes:
| Hello! I was wondering if the same colour shades for bricks get changed over
the years. For example, would a black or dark bluish grey brick today be the
exact same shade the same brick had 20 years ago or more? I know there are different
types of shades for colours like blue or grey, but a brick listed as being dark
bluish grey today and one listed as being dark bluish grey in the 90s or 2000s
are the exact same brick, right?
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TBH the colour of bricks in a single set can differ significantly (white, dark
red and dark blue can be really bad from presonal experience), but in general
the colour is generally consistant. Don't expect a perfect match with any
two Lego piecess and you'll be OK... So, yeah. And no!
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Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Oct 17, 2023 13:36 | Subject: | Re: Do the colour shades of the bricks get change | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Gligo writes:
| Hello! I was wondering if the same colour shades for bricks get changed over
the years. For example, would a black or dark bluish grey brick today be the
exact same shade the same brick had 20 years ago or more? I know there are different
types of shades for colours like blue or grey, but a brick listed as being dark
bluish grey today and one listed as being dark bluish grey in the 90s or 2000s
are the exact same brick, right?
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Lego often dosnt have exactly consistent colours for example pearl gold is only
1 colour but could be split into 3 with how different it can be and recently
red and black parts look different
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Author: | Gligo | Posted: | Oct 17, 2023 13:28 | Subject: | Do the colour shades of the bricks get change | Viewed: | 80 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| Hello! I was wondering if the same colour shades for bricks get changed over
the years. For example, would a black or dark bluish grey brick today be the
exact same shade the same brick had 20 years ago or more? I know there are different
types of shades for colours like blue or grey, but a brick listed as being dark
bluish grey today and one listed as being dark bluish grey in the 90s or 2000s
are the exact same brick, right?
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Author: | Jacob_Pf | Posted: | Oct 11, 2023 20:00 | Subject: | Re: Color issue with 2546p02, Bird, Parrot with S | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, SylvainLS writes:
| In Colors, Jacob_Pf writes:
| does not exist. It is not part of a set and has no images. Its existence is just
a result of people disagreeing whether the green or the red part of the parrot
is the base color. Therefore, the red version should be removed from the catalog.
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Sorry, my fault for not being clearer / more complete on the Studio forum last
night.
The problem stems from a difference between LDraw and BrickLink:
— for BL, the part has a Red marbling on a Green part,
— for LDraw, the bottom is Green (fixed) and the rest is in the variable colour.
Studio uses the LDraw part but with the BL catalogue. So, following the catogue,
the only available colour for Studio is Green… but if you paint the part Green,
it comes all Green. The part needs to be painted Red to look as the real part…
but then it’s marked as being in the wrong colour and you don’t get the price
in Studio.
There’s two possible solutions for that:
1. Have Studio use a modified 3D model (with the colours swapped) to match the
catalogue,
2. Have the catalogue change its view to match LDraw’s: the part is Red with
a Green marbling not Green with a Red marbling.
(1) may be the easiest. There’s others parts for which it’s been done (dual-moulded
arms for instance).
For (2), well, note that the part is named 2546p02 for both BL and LDraw. It’s
not 2546pb02 for BL. So, if there’s a policy to keep older common IDs
common (as examplified by the keeping of, and reverting to, x… IDs), changing
the BL part doesn’t seem impossible.
That’s why I told Jacob_Pf that I’d suggest (1) but that Jacob_Pf could still
ask for (2) here.
Jacob_Pf also brought out the problem about the (wrong) Red listings but I (wrongly)
didn’t answer that part (as Studio correctly marks Red as non-existing/“not known”).
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Ah, no worries, you explained it well enough, and I think I understood it. I
suggested removing the red variant not to fix the underlying issue, but rather
as a complementary improvement on top of using a modified 3D model. Have the
modified 3D model which now uses red pattern on a green part plus remove the
red variant. However, my suggestion is invalid anyways since I hadn't understood
where the red version came from properly at that point.
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Author: | rtzx9r | Posted: | Oct 11, 2023 18:02 | Subject: | Re: Is torso part no. 30375 - new color soon? | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, faro writes:
| Hi Bricklinkers,
has anyone heart of the torso part no. 30375 coming in a new color in future
sets?
I am hoping to increase my droid figure army
Greets and thanks for information
Farid
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Author: | faro | Posted: | Oct 11, 2023 17:00 | Subject: | Is torso part no. 30375 - new color soon? | Viewed: | 74 times | Topic: | Colors | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi Bricklinkers,
has anyone heart of the torso part no. 30375 coming in a new color in future
sets?
I am hoping to increase my droid figure army
Greets and thanks for information
Farid
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Oct 11, 2023 13:46 | Subject: | Re: Color issue with 2546p02, Bird, Parrot with S | Viewed: | 27 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| | I just Googled "red green parrot" and now I'm wondering which bird
the LEGO designers photographed when making this marbled bird. It would be interesting
to see what they thought this bird was, according to it's taxonomy.
Parrots with a green base and red top don't really exist in the form that
the bird shows for this catalog entry. Therefore this bird either has an identity
crisis or is fictional.
Anyone know of any LEGO designers that might have given out insights on which
bird they used for this particular marbled variety of parrot?
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Given it comes in sets with yellow people, I doubt they cared too much about
taxonomy and realistic colours.
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Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Oct 11, 2023 13:23 | Subject: | Re: Color issue with 2546p02, Bird, Parrot with S | Viewed: | 25 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, Jacob_Pf writes:
I just Googled "red green parrot" and now I'm wondering which bird
the LEGO designers photographed when making this marbled bird. It would be interesting
to see what they thought this bird was, according to it's taxonomy.
Parrots with a green base and red top don't really exist in the form that
the bird shows for this catalog entry. Therefore this bird either has an identity
crisis or is fictional.
Anyone know of any LEGO designers that might have given out insights on which
bird they used for this particular marbled variety of parrot?
This might have been discussed before in another thread about this catalog entry,
if this is a repeated question please disregard or link to discussions.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Oct 11, 2023 12:34 | Subject: | Re: Color issue with 2546p02, Bird, Parrot with S | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, yorbrick writes:
| | I wonder what was the rationale at this time (and if it still holds): bottom
is Green so it’s the main/variable colour and Red is the “pattern”?
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I that is the case I'd love to see the arguments if they made a marbled bat.
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Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Oct 11, 2023 12:30 | Subject: | Re: Color issue with 2546p02, Bird, Parrot with S | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Colors | |
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| | I wonder what was the rationale at this time (and if it still holds): bottom
is Green so it’s the main/variable colour and Red is the “pattern”?
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I that is the case I'd love to see the arguments if they made a marbled bat.
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