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Hello Everyone,

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Most everything will be 21% off or more.

Come check out my store!!!

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 10:19

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT - philosophical?

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In Selling, StarBrick writes:

It is not just America and the UK, of course.

No it isn't indeed:

- China
- Brasil
- Mexico
- Australia

The list doesn't end fast unfortunately.

Indeed, there are the 27 EU nations to add to it.

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 10:15

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Re: manual invoice

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In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

Hello all, hopefully someone can help me out.
Hopefully this is in the right place.
I am new and setting up my bricklink store, I would like to manually invoice
anyone who buys from me, just until I can work out all the postage costs that
I would have.

It's possible to have manual invoice without instant payment.
You can change the settings later.
Select Manual Invoice for each of your shipping methods.

Another question is how do I go about allowing cash payments on pick up for local
buyers as I have been selling individual pieces on facebook market place (people
send me their list of parts and I check if I have them and get back to them with
a cost) or is this not allowed?

It's not allowed to finish sales outside of Bricklink.

It's allowed to sell on other venues too.

It's not allowed if buyers and sellers meet on Bricklink and finish the deal
outside of Bricklink. Bricklink would be missing it's fees.

"There is no rule that says you can't sell what you have listed on BrickLink
some other way. Just don't be trying to convert BrickLink orders into non-BrickLink
orders. That would be fee circumvention."

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1213165

The reason I am asking about being able to accept cash payments is because through
my selling pieces on facebook market place and other avenues I have discovered
that the majority of people making large orders know of and use bricklink, and
so it would be nice (in my mind atlest) for me to be able to give them the option
to order through bricklink and then pay cash on pick up. I am happy to pay the
bricklink fees for those purchases.

I completely understand the sentiment. Personally, I like to push sales towards
BrickLink whenever possible. I have an affinity for the site, as a partner of
sorts. So I show loyalty as I would with any partner of mine. But that's
a personality thing, not a strict business decision. In other words, it's
not necessary "just don't convert BrickLink orders" as the Admin stated

another reason is if someone wants to pick up and pays but then doesn't actually
pick up I'm stuck holding their pieces or having to issue a refund, not sure
what is best there.

Give them a timeframe for pick-up, beyond which you'll ship the "unclaimed"
order to their registered BL address. Keep in mind though, with in-person pick
up for online transactions, you the seller, have no proof of delivery.

Allowing for in-person shopping is not my thing. But if that's what you're
interested in, you might tell them to bring additional cash in order to get that
ball roll'n. Build that local cash customer base, mentioned

Good luck and have fun!

-popsicle

Author:

Reki_Lobsheek

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 10:03

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Please check my previous posts on this: Customs do not check each and every parcel
that enters a member state. It's not even feasible to check 1% of all parcels
entering the EU.
Certain parcel get a red flag due certain parameters or even random checks but
99.999999% of all parcels are electronically handled by the postal services /
courriers.

As to your remark regarding the "obligation" to do this electronically, I'd
like to refer you to this page:
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/news/new-form-customs-declaration-low-value-consignments-2019-07-11_en

It's an older page from the EC stating the companies should start developing
the necessary software to be able to declare H7 customs declarations.

So there is an obligation to declare low value shipments electronically:
From 1 January 2021 the existing VAT exemption for goods up to 22 € will disappear.
In order to allow VAT to be levied, all imports into the EU will have to be declared
at the border using an electronic customs declaration.

Full legislation:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv

J.L_.2019.181.01.0002.01.ENG&toc=OJ:L:2019:181:TOC

You as a lay person are obviously under no obligation to fill in any kind of
customs declaration. That obligation lies solely with the entitiy shipping your
parcel and the company importing and delivering your package. You as a sender
are obligated to provide the necessary details to them to fill in any such form.
The CN22/CN23 form is nothing more than a summary of the declaration's details
on the outside of the parcel.
All those details (and often more) have been filled in already at that point
into a digital system as there doesn't exist a company on this planet that
would do this manually.

As to mentioning the IOSS nr: there isn't on obligation to use an IOSS nr,
period. Any European citizen is free to import (legal) goods without paying taxes
at checkout. There are still hundreds of thousands of webshops outthere who don't
use the IOSS functionality.
But IF you want to be able to benefit from such a system you need to provide
the necessary details to Customs at declaration level (meaning your shipper needs
to do this).
H7 is a highly simplified declaration system created to handle a huge amount
of parcels on a daily basis. Over 800 million such parcels pass Belgium each
year, can you imagine the nrs for countries like France or Germany?
It has been designed to work fast with little to no "wiggle room" for travesties
like IOSS not being properly handled.
As Calsbricks rightfully stated, it is still a heavy flawed system with various
results in each member state as far as I'm aware and which will create hiccups
until 2024-205 I'm afraid at this rate.

Just to be clear: it's not something I'm personally happy about. I have
had to pay double VAT twice now on American orders, so I do share the frustration
of many.

Erikk

In Selling, Llewyn writes:

Electronic interfaces refers to online marketplaces, it doesn't refer to
couriers.

I've seen nothing to indicate that the IOSS has to be communicated electronically,
except perhaps in individual member states' implementations of the directive.

You helpfully refer to the CN22/CN23, which is a paper document for customs inspection
which is required to be attached. You theoretically look at every single one
of those so yes, I would expect the IOSS inspection to happen (or realistically
not happen due to the volume issues you describe) in exactly the same way.

There is, as far as I'm aware, no requirement in EU legislation for the IOSS
number to be communicated electronically with the parcel.

Author:

StarBrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:59

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT - philosophical?

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It is not just America and the UK, of course.

No it isn't indeed:

- China
- Brasil
- Mexico
- Australia

And it's not intended to offend US of UK, so sorry if that was felt.

The list doesn't end fast unfortunately.
It's a phase we need to go through to become aware that this isn't the
way to go. Takes a decade or two I guess....

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:56

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT - philosophical?

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In Selling, StarBrick writes:

Protectionism is back in policy and business (as if it ever really left....).
Haven't you all noticed?

"Make America Great again"
"America First"
"Brexit"

It is not just America and the UK, of course.

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:51

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, yorbrick writes:

If people are expecting their postal services or courrier to manually check their
parcel for an IOSS nr on the CN22/CN23 slip they are not being realistic IMO.

Although they can of course assess by hand the (double) tax on all those parcels,
from written (not electronic) documentation that was included on the parcel.

At the very least there should be an appeals process. Something like: "I was
charged VAT twice despite the required IOSS number being on the CN22/CN23 slip
on my package." "OK, please submit a scan of the slip."

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:48

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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As I've said before: there's no entity that could work through the amount
of parcels arriving daily by hand. You'd need a workforce of at least 10000
people checking parcels 24/7. Or people should expcect delivery times of up to
2 years

If people are expecting their postal services or courrier to manually check their
parcel for an IOSS nr on the CN22/CN23 slip they are not being realistic IMO.

Although they can of course assess by hand the (double) tax on all those parcels,
from written (not electronic) documentation that was included on the parcel.

Author:

Reki_Lobsheek

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:42

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Could not agree more with you, unfortunately

Erikk

In Selling, calsbricks writes:

Design is one side of this issue - the other and perhaps more important is the
implementation. Trying to coordinate the rest of the world to a EU specific
system has not gone well. Some areas seem okay and others are a long way short.
And that is with or without an electronic version.

Overall a score of very low for the overall project.

Author:

StarBrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:39

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT - philosophical?

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Protectionism is back in policy and business (as if it ever really left....).
Haven't you all noticed?

"Make America Great again"
"America First"
"Brexit"

These and all the offspring of them have turned us all to even more me-me-me-first
then we already were but were afraid to acknowledge...
That's the modern plague that leaves Covid in the shadow and teaches us about
ourselves.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:37

Subject:

Re: Importer des nouvelles pièce

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General

In General, Nikal writes:

Bonjour
Suis un nouveau utilisateur de brick links studio.
Comment peut on augmenter le nombre de pièces du catalogue.
Merci bonne journée

Le forum dédié à Studio et PartDesigner est https://forum.bricklink.com/ (place
le curseur au dessus de l’icône rouge Studio qui se trouve sur toutes les pages,
puis clique “Studio Forum”).

En ce qui concerne les pièces, lis la FAQ à ce sujet: https://forum.bricklink.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6368

Author:

Nikal

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:34

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Importer des nouvelles pièce

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General

Bonjour
Suis un nouveau utilisateur de brick links studio.
Comment peut on augmenter le nombre de pièces du catalogue.
Merci bonne journée

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:34

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Llewyn writes:

In Selling, SylvainLS writes:

It’s not in the VAT changes regulations, it’s an older regulation that everything
going through customs should be electronic.

Other than the CN22, presumably.

AFAICT from what I read about that other regulation, the paper CN22 is just a
copy / failsafe, everything that’s on it is to be transmitted electronically.
(That’s the screenshot Erkiles showed. Someone entered that info on a computer
somewhere.)

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:33

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, calsbricks writes:

In Selling, Erkiles writes:

"The IOSS allows suppliers and electronic interfaces selling imported
goods to buyers in the EU to collect, declare and pay the VAT to the tax authorities".

Source: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/ioss_en

The whole idea of IOSS has been designed for e-commerce, emphasis on the
"e" for electronic, aka automated systems.

As I've said before: there's no entity that could work through the amount
of parcels arriving daily by hand. You'd need a workforce of at least 10000
people checking parcels 24/7. Or people should expcect delivery times of up to
2 years

If people are expecting their postal services or courrier to manually check their
parcel for an IOSS nr on the CN22/CN23 slip they are not being realistic IMO.

Erikk

Hi Erikk

Design is one side of this issue - the other and perhaps more important is the
implementation. Trying to coordinate the rest of the world to a EU specific
system has not gone well. Some areas seem okay and others are a long way short.
And that is with or without an electronic version.

Overall a score of very low for the overall project.

Author:

runner.caller

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:07

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, patpendlego writes:
It's illegal, but who is going to pay for the laywer to prove that?!?
As long as no one does, it can and will continue.

Could be worth it if you could get punitive damages too for pain and suffering.

This guy sued his former company for unpaid wages and got a lot more than the
missing $20k

"A federal jury on Wednesday awarded Pursglove $20,775 in back wages, $3 million
for his claim that the company failed to pay him 3.4 million shares of stock
as promised and $3 million in punitive damages."

I'm not saying anyone would make millions, but they could go after the greedy
government agency for the VAT as well as their legal expenses and time.

Author:

Llewyn

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:05

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, SylvainLS writes:

It’s not in the VAT changes regulations, it’s an older regulation that everything
going through customs should be electronic.

Other than the CN22, presumably.

Author:

Llewyn

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 09:04

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Erkiles writes:

If people are expecting their postal services or courrier to manually check their
parcel for an IOSS nr on the CN22/CN23 slip they are not being realistic IMO.

Author:

Reki_Lobsheek

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 08:45

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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If people are expecting their postal services or courrier to manually check their
parcel for an IOSS nr on the CN22/CN23 slip they are not being realistic IMO.

Erikk

Author:

WildBricks

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 08:26

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Local Tax money is travelling all over the world through accounts of people that
have nothing to do with it. And we have only to hope it all goes well.

In the meantime, the 10 richest men in the world has seen their wealth grown
by 100% in just 1 Corona year. There is something really really wrong with the
monetary system.

+1. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Author:

jty684

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 07:56

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70% off used! 10% off New! Store wide sale

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10% all new parts and sets!

70% off all used parts!

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Over 56,000 new pieces ready to go!

Orders will ship this afternoon.

https://store.bricklink.com/jty684&utm_content=globalnav#/shop

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 07:46

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It is the seller's obligation to make sure the IOSS nr is properly communicated
with their shipper. It's nowhere the buyer's responsibility.
If the shipper is at fault it is still the seller's responsibility to refund
the buyer as is the same for goods lost / destroyed in transit.

And if postage companies are not passing these on to customs even though they
are included by the seller, I can understand why (some) sellers no longer want
to do business with EU customers. Until marketplaces, shippers and customs sort
out the situation, I can understand small businesses not wanting to take the
loss on many items sent into the EU.

Author:

SezaR

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:46

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I put in my terms that there is no way I can make sure the IOSS nr is properly
communicated with the shipper. Out beloved CanadaPost does not accept IOSS nr
and the other courier I use got IOSS nr. but still, a customer in Poland was
charged VAT for second time.

I put in my terms that buyer accept that there is nothing I can do, unless shipping
with UPS which is very expensive, and the extra shipping cost will be more than
if VAT gets charged twice.

But as some user may want to consider me at fault and request me to refund him,
I resolve the problem easily: min buy for European is 150 EURO (so that Bricklink
does not collect VAT)

Author:

brac.brick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:45

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Re: USPS

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In Shipping, bricklinklp writes:

Refunded another order. USPS 1st class, not show a scan for 2 weeks

Another package in the same batch showed 1st scan in a week. VA to VA but the
first scan in FL

Our longest detour is a demotic package made a stop overseas, at lest it had
scans along the way and make back safely.

Now we have one package fall into USPS crack:

https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?tLabels=CY292718997DE

I totally understand it isn't seller's fault and don't want them
to take a hit, just so frustrated with USPS.

I had 1 package which was stuck somewhere between Massachusetts and California.
At day 10 I opened a missing mail claim on USPS - you have to sign up for a free
account . Lo and behold the package was delivered the next day. Sometimes I think
you just need to give USPS a swift kick and let them know there is a problem.
I also put in my store terms that it can take 7-10 days to reach a buyer, especially
in the winter with weather delays. I never refund for late packages unless the
USPS cannot find it - I just tell the buyer that I will refund them if the missing
mail search doesn't work.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:44

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Llewyn writes:

In Selling, Erkiles writes:

Again: if the IOSS nr is not visible in the automated system for the company
delivering the parcel in the EU member state (postal services or courrier) then
VAT will be charged automatically as per EU legislational obligation.

Citation needed.

I've read the relevant directives and regulations around this VAT change
and haven't noticed anything requiring electronic communication of the IOSS
number. Perhaps you can point out where I should be looking.

It’s not in the VAT changes regulations, it’s an older regulation that everything
going through customs should be electronic.

Author:

Bricks_Parts

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:43

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Collectible Minifigures SALE % Sale Out

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Hi,

we are sale out Collectible Minifigures. Used Parts 30%, New Parts up to 60%
kind regards

https://store.bricklink.com/Bricks_Parts&utm_content=globalnav#/shop

Author:

Stellar

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:41

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, patpendlego writes:

In Selling, SylvainLS writes:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

[…]
Well, obviously I can't give any details but also obviously I have emails
to prove this. Emails from shipping company / customs that shipment was on hold
until taxes were paid. Despite the fact that local state taxes were already paid
to BrickLink through PayPal.

Can you tell us what was the amount (of the product)?

Nope, no details, sorry.

If above 800$ there is a threshold

Author:

cosmicray

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:30

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Re: Does on-site PayPal allow “F&F”?

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In Payment Methods, dmoser22 writes:

I receive plenty of regular PayPal payments and I am fine with paying the fees.
However, I have a buyer who is offering to use the “Friends and Family” option
(or whatever PayPal calls it these days) in return for a shipping discount. If
I agree, will he actually be able to select that option using the on-site PayPal
link? Is there a limit on payments of this type? (It’s just on the high side
of $1000.)

TIA,
Dave

Friends and Family has no protections for the receiver of the payment. I'll
let you decide.

Nita Rae

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:25

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Well, obviously I can't give any details but also obviously I have emails
to prove this. Emails from shipping company / customs that shipment was on hold
until taxes were paid. Despite the fact that local state taxes were already paid
to BrickLink through PayPal.

Then the courier and/or customs is lying or mistaken. You can see in Chapter
95 that toys are not subject to customs duty when imported from most countries,
and U.S. Customs does not collect sales taxes:

https://hts.usitc.gov/current

I would find it hard to believe that a courier would be able to collect sales
taxes when even Customs does not.

Author:

Shintaku

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:24

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In Selling, Erkiles writes:

No, they shouldn't. They did their work correctly. If they don't see
an IOSS nr allocated to the parcel they are obligated to charge VAT. Period.

Again: if the IOSS nr is not visible in the automated system for the company
delivering the parcel in the EU member state (postal services or courrier) then
VAT will be charged automatically as per EU legislational obligation.

I work for Customs myself and I can tell you that about half of the parcel arriving
via Bpost do not have an IOSS nr allocated to the declaration. I'm sure many
of those buyers DID pay VAT at invoice.

It is the seller's obligation to make sure the IOSS nr is properly communicated
with their shipper. It's nowhere the buyer's responsibility.
If the shipper is at fault it is still the seller's responsibility to refund
the buyer as is the same for goods lost / destroyed in transit.

Erikk

This!
Yes, Erikk is totally right. It's the seller's obbligation to make sure
that the IOSS is properly communicated.

Author:

Llewyn

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 06:06

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Erkiles writes:

Author:

Brickwilbo

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 05:49

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Re: manual invoice

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In Payment Methods, Dino1 writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, Dino1 writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

It's possible to have manual invoice without instant payment.
You can change the settings later.
Select Manual Invoice for each of your shipping methods.

It's not allowed to finish sales outside of Bricklink.

It's allowed to sell on other venues too.

It's not allowed if buyers and sellers meet on Bricklink and finish the deal
outside of Bricklink. Bricklink would be missing it's fees.

Then you have to wait until Bricklink allows you to accept additional payment
methods.

If Australia has IBAN as payment method in you can request Admin to add it.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=18
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/help/contact.page

He wants cash payment.

Yes, but cash is not an option. The only other payment option is IBAN.

Author:

Reki_Lobsheek

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 05:36

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Just to show everyone what Customs see in their system when declarations enter
the automated system: the nr you see on the left of the origin country code is
the IOSS nr.
For those where that field is empty VAT will automatically be calculated and
charged by the company handling the delivery of the parcel.

In both cases the parcel will then be presented to Customs (via an automated
system) to verify if the declared value is acceptable or whether further checks
considering health / economic regulations are deemed necessary.

So the IOSS check is happening by the automated system of the company handling
your package and not by Customs as many here seem to think. So asking Customs
to refund your VAT is pointless.

IMO, the only party that can and should refund your VAT is the seller* as they
are responsible for the shipment.
Let's say you order a 400USD set from an American seller. Without your knowledge
that seller puts 10USD as declared value and "gift" as description (with an invoice
in the parcel).
The buyer in this case will end up with a hefty surcharge of VAT and import duties
and in some cases might even receive a fine for tax evasion.
Who do you think should refund these extra costs then?

Erikk

*by this I mean it would be the seller refunding the buyer but ultimately
Bricklink should obviously refund said seller afterwards

Author:

Reki_Lobsheek

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 05:23

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It should really be the other way around. If the buyer can prove they already
paid it then the collection agency should refund the VAT they are double charging.

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 05:15

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Erkiles writes:

Yes, charging VAT is to help protect businesses inside a trading block from cheap
goods imported from outside without those taxes being paid, and stopping citizens
from avoiding paying VAT on imports. I don't think anyone can really argue
against the collection of VAT.

Double charging VAT is different though.

Author:

Dino

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 05:12

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In Selling, Shintaku writes:

This is happening every single time.

I buy on an extra EU store, then I have to pay VAT.
I didn't until some months ago, so now it's very annoying, but ok.
Then, I expect that VAT is paid and I have nothing more to pay.

And every single time I receive a package, the postman says there's more
to pay.
EVERY SINGLE TIME.

If the seller didn't attach the VAT invoice, that's the seller to blame.
But it happened also with VAT invoice attached.

I am tired of paying double every time. Bricklink did a mistake forcing us to
pay the VAT in advance, I'll stop buying from extra EU if this doesn't
find a solution soon.

I believe the double taxation is due to the lack of an IOSS registration number.
It is not enough to have it on the invoice and on or in the package, it is absolutely
necessary to have it also on the registration form (CN22/CN23)!

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 05:11

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It should really be the other way around. If the buyer can prove they already
paid it then the collection agency should refund the VAT they are double charging.

Author:

Ellum

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Jan 21, 2022 04:58

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Oh boy you are lucky. In Denmark the handling fee is 22 EUR. I would be furious
if it happened to me.

Author:

Reki_Lobsheek

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 04:31

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I think it's more about discouraging people from buying outside of the EU,
which makes sense IMHO.
Non-European goods (genuine and counterfeit or under-valued) are flooding our
markets and are making life for European businesses very hard.

I know from personal experience that these cases of double charged VAT can be
a serious PITA, but it's almost always the seller's / shipper's fault.
If the company sending the goods does not enter the BL IOSS nr (which the seller
has to properly provide to them) into the automated system it's hardly the
European country's postal service's fault for charging VAT when there's
no proof (in the automated system) that VAT has already been paid.

There's millions and millions of e-commerce packages arriving in each member
state on a daily basis. Do you truly believe they'd be able to verify the
paper documents for each and every parcel? Dream on

What I propose is that when a buyer can deliver proof that he / she had to pay
VAT again on delivery the seller is olbigated to refund this VAT which BL can
refund to the seller.
In the end it's the platform (aka BL) that has the obligation to fulfill
the VAT duties.

If you don't have trust in the platform you're using to earn your living
then perhaps you should consider changing platforms or creating your own.

Erikk

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

The EU wants to get a piece of the pie of small sales. Simple as that. In total
this small trades are a huge amount of money. The rest of the world however has
to deal with these new EU rules, do you really think they like doing that?

Vice versa is the same. I really don't like at all that I have to invoice
local US State Tax, that it gets transfered to my PayPal account and that PayPal
is taking it off again, transferring it to BrickLink and we all just have to
hope and pray BrickLink is indeed transferring it to the US State Tax authorities
again.

Local Tax money is travelling all over the world through accounts of people that
have nothing to do with it. And we have only to hope it all goes well.

In the meantime, the 10 richest men in the world has seen their wealth grown
by 100% in just 1 Corona year. There is something really really wrong with the
monetary system.

Author:

Dino

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:31

Subject:

Re: manual invoice

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Topic:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, Dino1 writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

It's possible to have manual invoice without instant payment.
You can change the settings later.
Select Manual Invoice for each of your shipping methods.

It's not allowed to finish sales outside of Bricklink.

It's allowed to sell on other venues too.

It's not allowed if buyers and sellers meet on Bricklink and finish the deal
outside of Bricklink. Bricklink would be missing it's fees.

Then you have to wait until Bricklink allows you to accept additional payment
methods.

If Australia has IBAN as payment method in you can request Admin to add it.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=18
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/help/contact.page

He wants cash payment.

Author:

Brickwilbo

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:23

Subject:

Re: manual invoice

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Topic:

In Payment Methods, Dino1 writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

It's possible to have manual invoice without instant payment.
You can change the settings later.
Select Manual Invoice for each of your shipping methods.

It's not allowed to finish sales outside of Bricklink.

It's allowed to sell on other venues too.

It's not allowed if buyers and sellers meet on Bricklink and finish the deal
outside of Bricklink. Bricklink would be missing it's fees.

Then you have to wait until Bricklink allows you to accept additional payment
methods.

If Australia has IBAN as payment method in you can request Admin to add it.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=18
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/help/contact.page

Author:

Brickwilbo

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:18

Subject:

Re: Seller is not replying to reported problems

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In Problem Order, unreal_30 writes:

I've ordered a MISB set, which came with stickers on the LEGO box and the
box itself was slightly damaged. However, the biggest issue is that the box got
heavily damaged during transport due to very bad packaging. I have discovered
issue over a week after the package was received as I didn't have time to
unpack it before. I've paid with IBAN transfer. The seller has not replied
to the reported issues at all. I've tried filing NSS alert, but as seller
pointed out, he has shipped the package. Yet, he has never replied to the reported
problems, just send the link for tracking. I would like a partial refund, due
to reduced value of the set. What else besides the negative comment can I do?

MISB = Mint In Sealed Box means the contents are in mint condition with a sealed
box. It doesn't mean the box is in mint condition.

You can respond in the comment field of the NSS and explain the issue/damage.
Or
contact Admin if the NSS is removed: https://www.bricklink.com/helpDesk.asp?helpDeskID=112

Author:

Ziegelmeister

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:16

Subject:

Re: Force "complete" a shipment?

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Topic:

In Shipping, peregrinator writes:

In Shipping, Yellow.Brick writes:

You can only remove a shipment method if that method currently isn't in an
active status; ie; not marked as completed.

I've got at least a dozen where it's been 2+ months and they haven't
even marked the package as received.

Is there any way around this?

You can disable those shipping methods - just not delete them.

Once the orders are purged (6 months), you can delete.

"It's a marathon, not a sprint" apparently.

Author:

Dino

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:16

Subject:

Re: manual invoice

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Topic:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

It's possible to have manual invoice without instant payment.
You can change the settings later.
Select Manual Invoice for each of your shipping methods.

It's not allowed to finish sales outside of Bricklink.

It's allowed to sell on other venues too.

It's not allowed if buyers and sellers meet on Bricklink and finish the deal
outside of Bricklink. Bricklink would be missing it's fees.

Then you have to wait until Bricklink allows you to accept additional payment
methods.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:13

Subject:

Re: Does on-site PayPal allow “F&F”?

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Topic:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, dmoser22 writes:

$1000 is a lot of money if something goes wrong.
Declining a Paypal Friends & Family payment would be the best option.
You can give the buyer a discount without waving his Paypal protection rights.

Besides, it’s against PayPal’s terms and PayPal could close your account for
that, so you’re taking more risks than you think.

Author:

EmblaRonja

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:04

Subject:

Re: Seller is not replying to reported problems

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Topic:

Well we all like to have sellers and buyers that communicate.

But also:

Both seller and buyer has obligations in a transaction. Your seller has to pack
the item and ship it in a way that keeps its standard. This apparently has failed.

Now your obligation - if you are not happy with the ordered item - is to return
it to the seller and claim a refund.

Anything else - like mutual agreement of a partial refund - is just to hope for.
Not an obligation for the seller to do.

/Niclas

Author:

Brickwilbo

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:03

Subject:

Re: Does on-site PayPal allow “F&F”?

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Topic:

In Payment Methods, dmoser22 writes:

$1000 is a lot of money if something goes wrong.
Declining a Paypal Friends & Family payment would be the best option.
You can give the buyer a discount without waving his Paypal protection rights.

Author:

leggodtshop

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 03:00

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, SylvainLS writes:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Can you tell us what was the amount (of the product)?

Nope, no details, sorry.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 02:59

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Can you tell us what was the amount (of the product)?

Author:

leggodtshop

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 02:52

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, psusaxman2000 writes:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

In Selling, peregrinator writes:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Vice versa is the same. I really don't like at all that I have to invoice
local US State Tax, that it gets transfered to my PayPal account and that PayPal
is taking it off again, transferring it to BrickLink and we all just have to
hope and pray BrickLink is indeed transferring it to the US State Tax authorities
again.

It's not the same because U.S. customs won't try to collect state sales
tax when packages from outside the U.S. are delivered into the U.S. You won't
have a U.S. buyer come to you saying, "hey! They wouldn't give me my package
unless I paid sales tax/customs duties! I want a refund!"

Not true. They do.

If someone is telling you this, then they are lying to you. US customs will
only hold something if they fell it is illegal or otherwise a problem. They
have nothing to do with sales taxes as they are each managed at the state level.

Author:

unreal_30

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 02:51

Subject:

Seller is not replying to reported problems

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Topic:

Author:

Colin76

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 02:16

Subject:

UK overstock sale 20-40% off all parts & Figs

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Topic:

UK Sale Now On.....20 - 40% off all parts and Minfigures

Lots of Star Wars figures just added, Polybags and Vintage parts

More stock being added this weekend

No Minimum order value and instant checkout available

https://www.bricklink.com/store/home.page?p=Colin76&utm_content=globalnav

Thanks for looking!
Rock the Blocks.

Author:

Brickspert_AU

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 01:21

Subject:

Re: manual invoice

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Topic:

In Payment Methods, popsicle writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickwilbo writes:

In Payment Methods, Brickspert_AU writes:

It's possible to have manual invoice without instant payment.
You can change the settings later.
Select Manual Invoice for each of your shipping methods.

It's not allowed to finish sales outside of Bricklink.

It's allowed to sell on other venues too.

It's not allowed if buyers and sellers meet on Bricklink and finish the deal
outside of Bricklink. Bricklink would be missing it's fees.

Author:

mezoberenybrick

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 00:45

Subject:

-20% SALE OF PARTS!!!

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Topic:

-20% SALE OF PARTS!!

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 00:43

Subject:

Re: Individual Leg

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Topic:

In Buying, randyf writes:

In Buying, popsicle writes:

In Buying, psusaxman2000 writes:

In Buying, Market_of_Brix writes:

Hi,
I have a whole bunch of figures that are just missing a leg & unlike the torso
where you can buy the arms separately the legs don't have a reference. Could
someone please give the link if there is one to the bumble bee girls leg as I
only need one.

Cheers

If I remember correctly, there was something in the past where they stated that
individual legs would not be listed anymore. I believe it had something to do
with the fact that legs are never sold by themselves. I know arms aren't
either, but maybe it has to do with the fact that it is extremely difficult to
detach a leg with out damaging it. I don't believe there is or will be listings
for a single leg.

Correct... partially.

The new (reckless, imho) rule was applied to printed legs and hips, not plain
or unprinted.

reck·less
adjective
(of a person or their actions) without thinking or caring about the consequences
of an action

Many voices and issues were considered and a number of discussions were had when
this decision was made. Not to mention that it had already been discussed among
others years before the current admins came along. You may not agree with the
decision, but it was far from reckless.

I remember. Reckless, is exactly how I see it, Randy. As I added, imho.

But if that adjective offends somehow, let's go with mindless, shortsighted
or just plain dumb? Can't blame the Admins though, current or past. As you
said, there was discussion of sorts

In any case, it's among the worst catalog actions taken that I can remember
in my 15 years here. And there's been a few...

Author:

dmoser22

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 00:38

Subject:

Does on-site PayPal allow “F&F”?

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Author:

randyf

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 00:21

Subject:

Re: Individual Leg

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Topic:

In Buying, popsicle writes:

In Buying, psusaxman2000 writes:

In Buying, Market_of_Brix writes:

Correct... partially.

The new (reckless, imho) rule was applied to printed legs and hips, not plain
or unprinted.

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 00:17

Subject:

Re: Tax - US State tax

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Topic:

In Selling, Celticvii writes:

I am selling from Australia and have sold to a US buyer in Virginia.

Virginia sales tax has been added to the order and the money has been paid into
my Paypal account.

How am I meant to pay for this tax?

The taxes assessed the buyer in the transaction were pulled out of your PayPal
account as "Partner Fee". You never had access to the funds and don't need
to worry about paying.

-popsicle

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 00:09

Subject:

Re: Individual Leg

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Topic:

In Buying, Market_of_Brix writes:

Plain or unprinted hips and legs are still available within the catalog, under
category Minifigure, Body Part

970 Hips
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part {Black}

971 Leg, Right
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part {Black}

972 Leg, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part {Black}

Your Bumblebee Girl has printed legs, which can no longer be parted out here,
no legs. Though that minifig's leg assembly is fairly cheap considering the
fig's value.

-popsicle

Author:

Celticvii

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 00:05

Subject:

Tax - US State tax

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Topic:

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jan 21, 2022 00:04

Subject:

Re: Individual Leg

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Topic:

In Buying, psusaxman2000 writes:

In Buying, Market_of_Brix writes:

Correct... partially.

The new (reckless, imho) rule was applied to printed legs and hips, not plain
or unprinted.

Hips and legs without print are still available within the catalog, under category
Minifigure, Body Part

970 Hips
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part {Black}

971 Leg, Right
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part {Black}

972 Leg, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part {Black}

-popsicle

Author:

aboyer

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 23:44

Subject:

Re: USPS

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Topic:

In Shipping, bricklinklp writes:

Refunded another order. USPS 1st class, not show a scan for 2 weeks

I have a Priority Mail package en route since January 4. It’s worth $100 and
coming from Kansas City, but it’s been bouncing around New York City for a week.
New York is not between Kansas City and North Carolina.

It’s a package of stamps I ordered from USPS.

Author:

pitz8008

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 23:15

Subject:

Re: USPS

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Topic:

In Shipping, bricklinklp writes:

Refunded another order. USPS 1st class, not show a scan for 2 weeks

Have you been filing missing package search requests through the usps website
for all these packages? Usually gets the ball rolling. You can file a missing
package search a week after the package has been mailed. I highly recommend it.

Author:

CPgolfaddict

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 22:13

Subject:

Re: USPS

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Topic:

A week only?

I'm waiting on one in this same International Shipping
Center since December 24th. Apparently you can't file a normal "help request"
when receiving an international package. So I skipped straight to step 3 here:
https://www.usps.com/help/missing-mail.htm

I just put it in yesterday. So I haven't heard back yet.

For lost domestic US packages the help request or missing mail request does help.
I've never had one completely disappear after I've filed the request.
Fingers crossed...

In Shipping, bricklinklp writes:

In Shipping, popsicle writes:

In Shipping, bricklinklp writes:

Refunded another order. USPS 1st class, not show a scan for 2 weeks

It's been a hoot with deliveries of all sorts lately, Andy. But yeah, especially
with the Postal system.

Yes, including customs. Have one in there for a week.

We contacted our local post office and post office at front royal since day 1,
nobody knows what happened to the package. Not at our post office, not there
either. It vanished.

Author:

MOC_BLOKS

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 21:48

Subject:

***Lego Sale*** Save 20% on parts!!!

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Topic:

While LEGOS are getting hard to find.

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Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 21:15

Subject:

Re: (Cancelled)

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Topic:

In Shipping, bricklinklp writes:

You are right again, Cory.

You know what they say, even a busted watch is right twice a day

Glad I could shed some more light it, Andy.

Seller emailed the shipping label, they switched street
number and zip code. So this one is not on USPS. Hope they will find it.

On the other end, we had an APO order, no scan at all, but buyer marked order
completed. It's a Priority Mail Box, how it made to the destination without
a single scan is beyond me.

Especially being Priority service.

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 21:01

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, psusaxman2000 writes:

And I think there are only customs duties on toys if they are imported to the
U.S. from Cuba or North Korea, etc.

Author:

brac.brick

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 20:35

Subject:

Re: Non-Shipping Seller Alert

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Topic:

In Problem Order, MatthewLenhart writes:

Need some help here. I placed an order on Dec 24th and paid. The order was never
shipped and I attempted to contact the seller but they never got back to me.
I issued a NSS on Jan 13th and yet still nothing has happened. How long do these
things take? Need some advice!

Have you also filed a case with Paypal to get your money back ? This is separate
from any NSS in BL.

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 20:26

Subject:

Re: Individual Leg

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Topic:

In Buying, Market_of_Brix writes:

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 20:22

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

In Selling, peregrinator writes:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Not true. They do.

Author:

bahpstore

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 20:21

Subject:

(Cancelled)

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Topic:

You are right again, Cory. Seller emailed the shipping label, they switched street
number and zip code. So this one is not on USPS. Hope they will find it.

On the other end, we had an APO order, no scan at all, but buyer marked order
completed. It's a Priority Mail Box, how it made to the destination without
a single scan is beyond me.

Author:

Market_of_Brix

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 19:28

Subject:

Individual Leg

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Topic:

Author:

SezaR

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 19:09

Subject:

Re: Non-Shipping Seller Alert

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Topic:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=110#:~:text=If%20the%20seller%20has%20not,follow%20through%20with%20the%20transaction.

In Problem Order, MatthewLenhart writes:

Author:

faro

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 18:37

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, peregrinator writes:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Not true. They do.

If that's the case, then I have to think they're not telling the truth
- whereas I have no reason to doubt that EU buyers are being truthful when they
say they're getting hit with VAT a second time.

Speaking from personal experience (and I often buy in the US, Canada and so on)
there are 3 things that can happen at the moment (for orders under 150 Euros):

1) Customs declaration is complete and VAT is electronically recognized correctly.
Then the German Post "Deutsche Post" brings you the package to door and you can
take it without problems.

2) Customs declaration is complete but VAT is not electronically recognized.
The the German Post "Deutsche Post" puts a notification in your mail and with
it you can fetch the package from the local postal office the next day. They
do not take money at the door at the moment, due to Corona. So what happens,
e.g. you paid 5 Euros VAT via Bricklink, you have to pay the 5 Euros again and
a standard 6 Euros processing fee making it 16 instead of 5 Euros finally. This
mostly happens to me.

3) Customs declaration is incomplete. Then you get a notification that you have
to directly go to customs office to clarify the situation. If this happens it
is more time consuming and you have to drive a little but you can proove you
paid the VAT afterwards when you print out the invoice and give them a copy.

Of course what you could generally do (I think but did not try) is to get all
the double paid VAT by bringing paperwork to the customs office. But normally
with a small order the 6 Euro processing fee is more expensive than the VAT and
these costs you cannot get back from the customs office.

You cannot really influence if it ends in option 1), 2) or 3). It depends.
I talked to some friendly guys at the customs office between the holidays and
told them about the situation. They understood the problems but also could only
tell me to ask the sellers to electronically recognize the VAT, otherwise they
do not realize that VAT was paid.

My personal procedure is that I live with the double VAT at the moment because
I need parts I sometimes cannot get in the EU and I know that it is complicating,
also for sellers. The other point is that I have made very good experiences with
trustful sellers around the world and I am happy to order in their stores again.

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 17:59

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Not true. They do.

If that's the case, then I have to think they're not telling the truth
- whereas I have no reason to doubt that EU buyers are being truthful when they
say they're getting hit with VAT a second time.

Author:

cejorion

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 17:58

Subject:

15% off for the rest of January

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Topic:

15% off all parts & instruction booklets. Excludes sets and minifigs
FREE shipping on $25+ orders

Thanks and have an awesome day!

Author:

leggodtshop

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 17:50

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, peregrinator writes:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Not true. They do.

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 17:37

Subject:

Re: Non-Shipping Seller Alert

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Topic:

In Problem Order, MatthewLenhart writes:

Have a read: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=110

Author:

MatthewLenhart

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 17:32

Subject:

Non-Shipping Seller Alert

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Topic:

Author:

Brickster917

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 17:04

Subject:

40% OFF ALL MINIFIGS + 10 OFF ALL PARTS

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Topic:

All minifigs are 40% off and all parts are 10% off. Only ships to USA.

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 16:37

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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Topic:

In Selling, patpendlego writes:

Author:

Brickwilbo

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 16:30

Subject:

Re: Fake Lego parts in order- Seller doesn't care

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Topic:

In Problem Order, Sproatmeyer writes:

What should I do? Will doing anything give me a bad review from retaliation?

The responses excplained the parts aren't fakes.
I'll cancel this thread.

Author:

Brickitty

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 16:22

Subject:

Re: Wanted List /Stop List

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Topic:

In Buying, jennnifer writes:

So, I just found out the hard way that stores that have me on their stop list
still show up in the list of stores when I use the Buy All feature. I happened
to select one of the 2 stores that stop list me apparently. I had already filled
my cart and checked it against the other orders I was placing. There's no
indicator that I can't buy from them until I went to check out so now I have
to start the whole process over.

Why does the Wanted List place items in the cart of stores that stop list me?
I can't place items in the cart directly from their shop without receiving
the warning message.

Is there a setting somewhere that I have missed?

I wandered over to the Classic wanted list and don't see this particular
store in the results so I wonder if this is just an issue with the 'New'
wanted list.

Am I missing anything?

Jen

I ran into this problem once, and resolved it by adding the store that had stoplisted
me onto my Least Favorite Stores list.

However, there's another similar issue with the Buy feature that puzzles
me. I often create Wanted Lists from Rebrickable MOCs with the Add to Bricklink
Wanted List feature on Rebrickable, and then I run a Buy query to approximate
the cost. Unless I spend time to delete lots I have listed for sale from the
Wanted List (which I don't want to do, as I don't like pulling parts
from my store to build MOCs), the Buy algorithm often chooses MY OWN STORE. However,
the solution I mentioned above doesn't work, as I can't add my store
to my Least Favorite Stores list. And evidently it's possible to ship to
myself even though I can't buy from myself? The result is that I can't
find a way to prevent the Buy feature from choosing my own store as an option.

So it seems the "Stores That Don't Ship to Me" option really only checks
for location-based parameters in shipping settings, rather than a more broad-based
search of any store that can't ship to the user, whether because of stoplists
or it being the user's own store.

Author:

Tracyd

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 15:50

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Re: Wanted List /Stop List

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In Buying, peregrinator writes:

In Buying, jennnifer writes:

Why does the Wanted List place items in the cart of stores that stop list me?
I can't place items in the cart directly from their shop without receiving
the warning message.

Is there a setting somewhere that I have missed?

I wandered over to the Classic wanted list and don't see this particular
store in the results so I wonder if this is just an issue with the 'New'
wanted list.

Am I missing anything?

I guess you could least favorite the store (but that's a workaround, not
a solution)

But you only find it out after you fill the cart and try to checkout. Before
should be the default.

Author:

peregrinator

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Jan 20, 2022 15:48

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Re: Wanted List /Stop List

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In Buying, jennnifer writes:

I guess you could least favorite the store (but that's a workaround, not
a solution)

Author:

leggodtshop

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 15:44

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Shintaku writes:

Author:

faro

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 15:13

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, SezaR writes:

In Selling, Shintaku writes:

In Germany that is exactly what is needed hmmmmmm

I think it is even possible that even if IOSS was electronically submitted, then
some data don't get properly transferred to the authorities (customs) in
European countries.

This is not Bricklink's mistake. They HAD TO implement this and charges VAT
due to new regulations imposed by law for online marketplaces.

Author:

faro

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 15:10

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Shintaku writes:

Some in Germany...
Packing invoice at the outside of a package does not work.
VAT has to get electronically recognized with the customs label.
Otherwise you pay double and also the postal charge for collecting VAT.
In about 80% or more my international orders are double VAT-paid by me

I think the problem is that you individually know what to do as a seller for
each different country. This is impossible.

Author:

SezaR

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 15:09

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Shintaku writes:

I stopped accepting orders of value below 150 Euro from europe for this reason.

Most couriers, specially CanadaPost do not allow to add IOSS number electronically.
This causes Custom officers not to get the data that VAT was already paid.

I think it is even possible that even if IOSS was electronically submitted, then
some data don't get properly transferred to the authorities (customs) in
European countries.

This is not Bricklink's mistake. They HAD TO implement this and charges VAT
due to new regulations imposed by law for online marketplaces.

Author:

leggodtshop

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:56

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Shintaku writes:

It's illegal, but who is going to pay for the laywer to prove that?!?
As long as no one does, it can and will continue.

If the seller didn't attach the VAT invoice, that's the seller to blame.
But it happened also with VAT invoice attached.

I am tired of paying double every time. Bricklink did a mistake forcing us to
pay the VAT in advance, I'll stop buying from extra EU if this doesn't
find a solution soon.

Author:

leggodtshop

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:54

Subject:

Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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In Selling, Shintaku writes:

In Selling, yorbrick writes:

In Selling, bobnikolov writes:

In Selling, yorbrick writes:

If the seller didn't attach the VAT invoice, that's the seller to blame.
But it happened also with VAT invoice attached.

It sounds like your local government agency doesn't know what it is doing
then, if they are charging VAT on every order that you import even if VAT is
already collected and displayed correctly.

It happens here too. Even the VAT invoice is attached. So i stopped buying outside
of EU till this is cleared

So long as BL is supplying sellers with the correct documentation there is not
really any more they can do. The cannot teach incompetent government systems
or officials.

So basically, people from the EU will stop buying outside EU. This will damage
a lot the non-EU sellers.

Do you really think the EU cares? Money going outside EU is a loss for businesses
inside EU, so they prefer(!) that you buy inside EU.

However, what is the case that the seller did NOT attach the VAT invoice?
Because in this last case the seller did not attach anything and he claims that
bricklink did never send him a VAT invoice.
Is this possible?

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:50

Subject:

Re: Wanted List /Stop List

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In Buying, Tracyd writes:

In Buying, jennnifer writes:

In Buying, zorbanj writes:

I'm not aware of such a setting.

Look on the bright side, now one of the stoplisters has been unmasked.

Maybe message them and ask why you were stoplisted. It could be a mistake.

Possibly... But I tend to be a loud-mouth here on the Forum and perhaps that
how I ended up there. I wouldn't want to contact them if they really don't
like me for something I said.

Jen

Same here Jen, I have been stop listed by stores well after transactions with
positive feedback on both sides because they don't like what I have to say.
It is annoying thou to fill up a cart only to find out at checkout they don't
want your $$. Their loss I just find someone else to take it. Maybe the stop
listed by stores needs to be tweaked so those stores no longer show up for those
of us they refuse to service.

Tracyd

Strangely, I don’t have this problem…
… not because I’m not stoplisted but because the sellers who stoplist me all
have zero chances of my buying from them (wrong items, wrong location, or awful
terms)

Author:

zorbanj

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:40

Subject:

Re: Wanted List /Stop List

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A checkbox option would be great, like the ones that already exist for disliked
stores, stores that do not ship to you, etc.

In Buying, Tracyd writes:

Author:

zorbanj

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:38

Subject:

Re: Wanted List /Stop List

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I've done it myself at least twice and someone did it to me. Copied and pasted
the wrong username out of the thread and into the stoplist. Plus, you want to
buy from their shop, which means $ $ $ $

In Buying, jennnifer writes:

In Buying, zorbanj writes:

I'm not aware of such a setting.

Look on the bright side, now one of the stoplisters has been unmasked.

Maybe message them and ask why you were stoplisted. It could be a mistake.

Possibly... But I tend to be a loud-mouth here on the Forum and perhaps that
how I ended up there. I wouldn't want to contact them if they really don't
like me for something I said.

Jen

Author:

Tracyd

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:38

Subject:

Re: Wanted List /Stop List

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In Buying, jennnifer writes:

In Buying, zorbanj writes:

I'm not aware of such a setting.

Look on the bright side, now one of the stoplisters has been unmasked.

Maybe message them and ask why you were stoplisted. It could be a mistake.

Possibly... But I tend to be a loud-mouth here on the Forum and perhaps that
how I ended up there. I wouldn't want to contact them if they really don't
like me for something I said.

Jen

Author:

jennnifer

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:31

Subject:

Re: Wanted List /Stop List

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In Buying, zorbanj writes:

I'm not aware of such a setting.

Look on the bright side, now one of the stoplisters has been unmasked.

Maybe message them and ask why you were stoplisted. It could be a mistake.

Possibly... But I tend to be a loud-mouth here on the Forum and perhaps that
how I ended up there. I wouldn't want to contact them if they really don't
like me for something I said.

Jen

Author:

Bricks_Parts

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:30

Subject:

MEGA SALE OUT up to 60% New figs parts

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Hi,

we make sale out now. up to 60%...no PayPal fees no other fees

https://store.bricklink.com/Bricks_Parts&utm_content=globalnav#/shop?o={%22sort%22:9,%22desc%22:1,%22showHomeItems%22:0,%22showNewest%22:1}

thanks

Author:

psusaxman2000

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:30

Subject:

Re: No Tracking from Seller

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In Buying, yorbrick writes:

In Buying, osamot writes:

To check where is the pack...

How do you know it was delivered on that date - either you must have received
it or the seller must have told you it was delivered. So surely you have the
package or you have had an answer from the seller.

I'm re-reading this as they paid for tracking (which I believe is extra through
the EU) and it was never provided. Now they have the package and maybe are looking
to see if they can get a refund since they never received the tracking information.

Author:

Play_It_Again

Posted:

Jan 20, 2022 14:30

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Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving

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