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 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Aug 16, 2021 10:40
 Subject: Re: Part 3702 in trans neon green
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 Topic: Catalog Identification
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In Catalog Identification, Brickych writes:
  I have this part



in trans neon green.

Lego logo on the studs.

Where did it come from? Not in the catalog.

Probably a prototype color.
If it's not a hassle, please consider photographing it and adding it to the
bricklink catalog for future verification reference that it does exist in that
color.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Jul 3, 2021 00:53
 Subject: Re: Castle In The Forest
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 Topic: Designer Program
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In LEGO, wildchicken13 writes:
  In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
  In LEGO, peregrinator writes:
  […]
There is a lot of room between the length of time it took for the BL AFOL sets
to sell out and the 40 minutes it took the Castle in the Forest to sell out yesterday.
Yes, the variables were different, but ... 40 minutes? I can't imagine that
was expected.

Indeed not.  They apparently only expected double the ADP backers / half the
Ideas clickers.

The 3,000 minimum is understandable.  And I guess they have lots of reasons for
setting a max (parts availability, with other sets to produce, relatively short
time to produce / manage supply, etc.).
Still, if the biggest toy seller in the world can’t predict anything, repeatedly….

If you add the no-more-exclusives fiasco (
AFOLs: Stop making exclusives!  We all want to buy everything!
TLG: Okay, we hear you!  No more regional exclusives, pinky swear! … BTW, here
are new sets exclusive to East Asia, and here’s another one for the SDCC, and,
and, and…. )
and other very limited limited editions, it’s like TLG only wants to sell (expensive)
collectibles, not toys, and only to scalpers.

Pure speculation here, but I think the artificial scarcity motivates people to
buy that might not otherwise. I can always put off buying a regular LEGO set
knowing that it will probably be available for a few years, but the same is not
true of a designer program set. Of course, LEGO could probably sell more than
5,000 of each if they made them regular sets, but it would probably take more
than a day.

Maybe I don't understand what's going on (and there's probably not
a sure way to do so)... But, if I were a company, I would think the best method
would be to make the max unlimited and then close the number AFTER the 30 days
(or whatever) time expired. I would want to maximize my profits. In fact, the
more sets that are produced at any factory at one time, the less the cost for
each set it. Because the biggest time/cost factor is setting up the production
run itself for the first time.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Jun 26, 2021 12:54
 Subject: Re: Parting out 71741 Ninjago City Gardens
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 Topic: Help
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In Help, Papabricks writes:
  Hello Bricklinkers,

After adding all my remarks and try to part out ninjago city gardens, it failed😞
I’ve noticed that you are meant to part this set in two halves.
Below is the additional note.

Additional Notes: Collapse ▲
Due to the massive number of lines (1000+) in the inventory of this set, the
BrickLink system will time out during the part out process. You must part out
the set in two different halves.


It would be much appreciated if someone is kind enough to let me know how you
do that please.
*do you just delete half of the lots?

Thank you.

Papabricks

Is it really that hard to fix this site error?
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Jun 15, 2021 02:42
 Subject: Re: Part Identification (Episode 2)
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 Topic: Catalog Identification
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In Catalog Identification, BricksterXD writes:
  Hello there!

I need some more help identifying some parts in my inventory. I'm aware that
they're from either Bionicle / Hero Factory / Knights Kingdom - other than
that, I'm unable to identify them.

Any and all help appreciated.


Thank you!

Are you aware that most of those parts have a part number already engraved into
them? Simply type the part number in the search bar and the entry for it in the
catelog on bricklink will come up.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Jun 14, 2021 15:08
 Subject: Re: Modifying feedback?
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 Topic: Feedback
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In Feedback, YYCFigsNBricks writes:
  Hi everyone,

We had a buyer leave us great and positive written feedback, but accidentally
chose "neutral" instead of "positive" feedback as the radio button. They are
a first time buyer. Any way to modify this to be a positive?

We contacted the seller and they confirmed it was an accident, but this affects
the store and would like it changed.

Thanks!

In the past, I sent a message to the help desk and they were able to do something
about it.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: May 28, 2021 01:05
 Subject: Re: Brick, Round Corner 2 x 2 Macaroni with Stud
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In Catalog, bigasbricks writes:
  Brick, Round Corner 2 x 2 Macaroni with Stud Notch and Reinforced Underside

Got this today in Trans Red can't find it anywhere under known colors for
this part.

If you have the time, please take a moment to submit a photo of the real part
to the database, so we have record that an authentic one is actually out in the
wild.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: May 26, 2021 18:18
 Subject: Item removal request error
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 Topic: Technical Issues
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When I click on the "Submit request" button on this screen (only grayed out because
I hit back after the error), I get an error message and cannot proceed.
 


 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: May 6, 2021 13:32
 Subject: Re: Please Add Alternate Item Numbers
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 Topic: Catalog Requests
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Can we just get rid of the "cliktis027apb02" altogether?


I would love to, but you need to convince the site, not me.

Who is the specific person that I need to contact to convince?
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: May 5, 2021 14:38
 Subject: Re: Please Add Alternate Item Numbers
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 Topic: Catalog Requests
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In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  Please add the following alternate item numbers:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

45450pb01 to
[p=clikits027apb01]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

45450pb02 to
[p=clikits027apb02]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

45450 is the Design ID of the base part clikits027a.

Thanks,
Randy

Can we just get rid of the "cliktis027apb02" altogether?
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Apr 16, 2021 11:34
 Subject: Re: Monochrome Minifigures
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Catalog, Brick.Door writes:
  
  
'm pretty sure the main objective behind the catalog is
that it is a representation of the parts that are officially sold by Lego. While
they do sell parts to make monochrome minifigures, they are not sold as such,
hence why they are not listed in the standard catalog and require custom listings.
If they were to do this, it could open a can of worms for other requests.

Disagree - the main objective of the catalog is to facilitate selling and buying
LEGO in this marketplace. If there is significant demand it should be added to
the catalog to make it easier to buy and sell (and to track the price history).
I trust the catalog admins to make a judgement call whether something is worthy
or not, but can understand that they wouldn't want that responsibility and
the flood of requests/complaints.

I agree. This should be done with certain types of parts after proper discernment.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Apr 16, 2021 11:34
 Subject: Re: Monochrome Minifigures
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
  One actually exists.
 
Minifig No: gen091  Name: LEGO VIP Letter I (Monochrome)
* 
gen091 (Inv) LEGO VIP Letter I (Monochrome)
Minifigures: LEGO Brand

This exists because it was sold this way. Same for the others that are mentioned
below that have appeared in sets as figs built that way. I get the idea of having
all different monochrome color figs available, but then where do you limit the
creation of them. Does it mean, you could only have figs if all the parts are
available to create it. If someone "cleans" a part to remove the print and create
a new monochrome, they technically have the part, but it's not original by
any means. The current catalog doesn't limit anyone from buying or creating
them, but I could see the gap if someone is looking to purchase one. It's
a balance that I'm glad I don't have to manage.

They can also "clean" a part and list it as the plain torso, that is nothing
new. I'd hope anyone doing that would list them as used or at least indicate
the parts had been wiped.

They can also create a monochrome torso assembly by pulling off (yellow) hands
from another one such as this

 
Part No: 973c07  Name: Torso Plain / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
* 
973c07 (Inv) Torso Plain / Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly

and adding the correct colour hands. So the torso assembly might not be original
but still exists if created. More of a worry are monochrome legs/hips, as people
can pull off the legs and damage the pins, but again that is not a new problem.

As long as they are sold as used it doesn't matter. And if after wipe it's
100% indistinguishable from a non-wiped used torso... well... it really doesn't
matter.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Feb 16, 2021 16:32
 Subject: Re: Adjusting Colour Names such as Bluish Grey?
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Can we use both Lego and bricklink color names simultaneously, or the user can
choose an option which to use?

In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Jan 21, 2021 16:21
 Subject: Re: Have all printed Legs been deleted?
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, novabrick writes:
  
 
Part No: 971pb05  Name: Leg, Right with SW White Leggings Pattern
* 
971pb05 Leg, Right with SW White Leggings Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
Marked for Deletion
Today I saw that the printed Leg in our inventory got marked for deletion. I
saw that even more are marked likewise. Is there a reason behind it I missed?

Christian

novabrick-team

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1171361
and
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159628

If printed ones are removed, why are plain ones not being removed?

 
Part No: 970  Name: Hips
* 
970 Hips
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 971  Name: Leg, Right
* 
971 Leg, Right
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 972  Name: Leg, Left
* 
972 Leg, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

Surely these suffer the same problems as printed ones when taken apart.

Yep, that is a good one if not a really good one!

I agree with you.
I see a lot of chewed on legs, plain and decorated, it should be nice if you
can replace them for a lower price than a complete assembly.

In fact, there is no reason at all why arms and hands can be sold apart while
decorated legs cannot be sold separately.
And if someone makes up a reason it would be valid for the legs too.

Well, I hope that they don't delete the non-printed versions, because when
I get large lots of used pieces, I end up with lots of misc. legs.
But I definitely would rather have all printed legs added to the catelog.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Dec 13, 2020 02:38
 Subject: Re: USPS struggles & NSS
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, rob.ulm writes:
  In Suggestions, Ctbyrne writes:
  I'm sure I'm not alone in getting hit with plenty of NSS claims because
USPS is taking too long to deliver packages. Once the mail carrier takes the
package, there's nothing I can do about how long they take to deliver it
to the buyer. I know that buyers need their protection too, but too many stores
are going to be shut down because of the impatience of buyers. Maybe during these
trying times for USPS, the ability to file NSS be pushed back a certain amount
of time? As far as I know now, you can file it immediately after placing the
order. Maybe something like 2 weeks after the order is placed before you can
file an NSS. I would think that most if not all sellers would have long since
shipped the package out within 2 weeks. The lag time on my store is about 4 days,
but never have I taken 2 weeks to ship out a package.

Chris
Bricks on the Dollar

Speaking as a *patient* buyer, I'm interested in hearing from sellers if
there's actually anything you're able to do in terms of dealing with
USPS/trying to track down packages. I'm waiting on an order for three weeks
now with tracking indicating that it's been hung up at the last "stop" for
two weeks.

I have no intention of claiming NSS - the seller obviously shipped it and this
is 100% on the post office - I'm just wondering if it's even worth bothering
the seller or if there's no value in even doing that. I'm legitimately
interested in the seller perspective on this.

In September/October I had a package straight up lost (package was never scanned
and never arrived, seller refunded) and another than took six weeks to arrive.
I took a break for a little bit but came back because I had an expiring coupon
to use. I would never blame a seller for stuff out of their control but the unfortunate
consequence is I've just stopped buying from anyone (not just Bricklink,
other small businesses as well). Also, I had toyed with the idea of starting
to sell some of my spare parts, but that's on the shelf until the post office
can sort itself out.


After 7 days of the order entering the system, the seller is able to file a "Missing
Mail" request search online with the post office. I personally do this after
the item has not had any tracking updates for 7 days. I'm not sure if this
actually helps or not, but usually within a day or two of filing the item is
back moving again.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Sep 15, 2020 18:51
 Subject: Re: Tap category?
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
  Could Stormchaser verify what's going on here?

I believe Randy answered the questions you had.

The Tap category may be removed at some point in the future, but for now it will
remain. All changes shown right now on this page will absolutely occur on October
1st:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

Judging by some of the items getting moved into Scala and Belville categories...
Are we going to be moving more items into those categories then? I was definitely
hoping those theme-type categories would be eliminated and the parts divided
out amongst actual part type categories.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Aug 21, 2020 13:16
 Subject: Re: Make neutral feedback actually NEUTRAL
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, randyf writes:
  In Suggestions, CanadaFirst writes:
  We all know that currently the way feedback works is kinda borked. The feedback
percentage counts Positive vs other feedbacks and so it causes a neutral feedback
to lower that score. Neutral feedback should simply not be a part of the equation.
It should be positive vs megative and completely disregard neutral feedback so
that neutral feedback is actually neutral and not 'negative light'.

New users do not understand that leaving a neutral feedback hurts the shop's
feedback percentage and to be honest, it's completely understandable because
neutral should be neutral, it should not have any incidence on a shop's feedback
percentage.

Using this suggestion...

First store:

1000 positive feedback + 100 neutral feedback + 0 negative feedback = 100% score

Second store:

200 positive feedback + 0 neutral feedback + 1 negative feedback = 99.5% score

Which one is the better store?

In my opinion, the answer to this and lots of similar ones is "Stop obsessing
so much about your percentage and score". I don't think most customers even
pay attention to it. And the ones that do aren't going to see a 97% and
run away. If it seems low to them, they'll want to see what the complaints
were and if it was just someone saying they had a ho-hum experience in your store
it isn't going to matter.

If something needs to be done about the percentage calculation, perhaps just
getting rid of the percentage calculation is the answer.

The percentage is a warning against high feedback stores that have lots of neutrals
or negs. Although only if people use it to prompt them to look at the feedback.

What if we just changed the Feedback "score" to tell the whole truth concisely?
axaday(4777 2 0) with the numbers in color.
Much better. That way it would be very easy to spot without having to click on
every user's/store's number.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Aug 20, 2020 12:49
 Subject: Re: Tweezers in gold color?
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In Modulex, minibricks writes:
  I have a large Modulex collection and have several of the silver colored item
that you are calling "tweezer" -- it is indeed a Modulex item and it is used
to remove tiles/bricks from a baseplate. I have not seen the brass colored one
though!

Karyn

In Modulex, patpendlego writes:
  Hi,

found these in a large lot of Modulex, the left one metallic and same as the
images here on bricklink, the right one is gold color and different... is it
Modulex?

Arnoud

Is it in the catalog?
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Aug 19, 2020 22:55
 Subject: Re: Moving Things - Responses
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I agree with keeping the bracket category, this is definitely a unique category
and needs to be retained.

In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Bracket - category poorly defined (suggested solution is to rewrite definition)

Response: Like Antenna, here I would support eliminating the category
altogether. There are only 24 parts within and all of them would probably fit
better in other categories.

Bit of a late response, but I would like to add here that "only 24 parts" isn't
the whole story - Bracket is not exactly like other small categories. In actual
inventory volume, this category accounts for approximately as many parts as "Brick,
Arch" or "Brick, Round", and the buying frequency is also comparable. So I just
wanted to add here that while the number of entries is low, it is not entirely
the same as other small categories.

That fact (together with the fact that elimination would probably result in even
more Plate,Modifieds) leads me to prefer keeping it. Possibly moving brackets
without angled studs somewhere else, like Vehicle Base or Cockpit.

Just wanted to add this but I leave the decision up to you guys.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Aug 19, 2020 22:45
 Subject: Re: Catalog Project - Moving Things
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  This flame had me confused for a while yesterday, as I couldn't find it with
the other flaming parts in energy effect ...

[P=16768pb001]

I always store this with my minifigure weapons...
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Aug 19, 2020 22:41
 Subject: Re: Catalog Project - Moving Things
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Is there any other good category for this? I wouldn't personally have thought
this would be a utensil...

 
Part No: 67075  Name: Friends Swing 2 x 6 x 5 1/3
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67075 Friends Swing 2 x 6 x 5 1/3
Parts: Friends
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 Posted: Aug 19, 2020 21:59
 Subject: Re: Catalog Project - Moving Things
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Combine categories like "large figure", "bionicle", "hero factory" into one,
and then divide them up into different sub-categories, like "torso", "mask",
etc.


In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Okay, I won't promise anything will happen.

But this is the plan:

1. I'm opening discussion right now, in this thread, on changes in
item type and and category for any items wrongly categorized. I expect discussion
will probably focus on parts and last around two weeks.

2. I'll post all changes deemed worth making on this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

3. The catalog team will discuss internally during the month of September.
This will give everyone time to prepare for item movements. I'll post public
updates/reminders occasionally during August and September.

4. The actual changes will be made on October 1st, 2020. A record of
the changes will be retained for reference purposes for two years on the page
linked to above.

I know some of you are excited about this. It's the first time BrickLink
has been widely open to correcting some longstanding categorization issues.
I'm excited, too. I will fully read and carefully consider every post made
in this thread. To help me out, please:

1. Snip replies (remove extraneous content before replying).
2. Stay on point (don't post digressions).
3. Keep everything in this one thread.
4. Don't expect miracles. Some ideas may have to be added to the
roadmap as separate projects.
5. Try to limit complaints. Or, if you believe everything is already
properly categorized and don't like change, complain loudly and often. Site
management will be watching.

Thanks to everyone for the input you're about to provide. I don't know
how this will go, but I expect it to be interesting.
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: Jul 23, 2020 13:10
 Subject: Re: POLL: New Variant for 6641
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  There is a new variant for
 
Part No: 6641  Name: Technic Changeover Catch
* 
6641 Technic Changeover Catch
Parts: Technic
that was just released that has a completely new type of axle hole.

It has Design ID 51149: https://brickset.com/parts/design-51149

The catalog team is considering whether to add this as a new part to the catalog
or just add an alternate item number to 6641.

POLL:

What would you like to see done?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

Cheers,
Randy

Can we work on getting some designated A/B entries for some of the parts that
haven't had any for years (or have one variant designated but not the other)
of which there are actually functional differences?
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: May 16, 2020 05:41
 Subject: Re: Part marked for deletion
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, bengreen28 writes:
  Hi, I have a 1x2 plate that has a sticker on it, I have gone to list it and have
found that it is marked for deletion because the sticker was applied to the wrong
part.
I have got this model at home and also have the instructions for it. the sticker
has been applied to the correct part as it shows it clearly on the instructions.
Who do we contact in order to get the deletion cancelled?
Part number is 3023pb01, you can see clearly in the picture that the sticker
is applied to the 1x2 plate and not the mudguard.

Here is the thread from when it was removed from the inventory:

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=253659

The sticker now forms this assembly:

 
Part No: BA081pb01  Name: Stickered Assembly 4 x 2 x 1 with 'Shell' Small Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 6634 - 2 Plate 1 x 2, 1  Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Studded
* 
BA081pb01 Stickered Assembly 4 x 2 x 1 with 'Shell' Small Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 6634 - 2 Plate 1 x 2, 1 Mudguard 2 x 4 with Arch Studded
Parts: Stickered Assembly

So the sticker is in the correct place but it covers more than 1 part (admittedly
only just)

The only problem is, because that is just barely over, a majority of people will
have the 1x2 plate with with the sticker in a lot rather than the entire assembly...
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: May 6, 2020 14:05
 Subject: Re: Dual molded arms
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  
 
Part No: 981982pb038  Name: Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair with Molded Light Aqua Short Sleeves Pattern
* 
981982pb038 (Inv) Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair with Molded Light Aqua Short Sleeves Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

For the catalog project Figure Part Changes, number 1 on the in progress list
(https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476#ProjectsInProgress), I just noted
a significant difference between Bricklink and LDraw - used as a source for Studio
parts.

LDraw (and thus Studio if it were to include these parts) has the dual molded
arms with fixed color lower arms - currently only yellow and light flesh in their
database. (https://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptscan.cgi?q=arm+right+lower+arm+pattern&scope=description)

Bricklink has the dual molded arms with fixed color upper arms - hence a plethora
of colors. (https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=arm%20short%20sleeves%20pattern)

The choice is of course arbitrary, but during this catalog project, would it
be wise to adapt to LDraw's (and thus Studio's) choice?

I've always thought it should be reversed, as most arms base would be either
yellow or flesh, therefore limiting the amount of catelog entries drastically.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.

Are they? That's definitely news to me.

Here's a list of X-numbers beginning with 1. There are nearly 400 of them,
and that's just one number:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?searchMethod=searchBoth&q=x1*&itemBrand=1000&catType=&itemYear=&catID=&catLike=W

"x" exists as a temporary number when the official Lego part number was originally
not known (usually because it is not printed on the part itself).

When I've discovered the true part number, I've submitted many for the
"x" number to be replaced by the official Lego part number, and it's always
been done. (The "x" number was not even retained as an alternate.) In fact, one
time I went through the catelog to discover and replace as many as I could find
the original part number for.

For some reason here though... When the original part number was discovered,
it was added as an alternate number, but not replaced. So, there's obviously
serious inconsistency here.
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, edeevo writes:
  […]
I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... […]

Nah, items have a fixed, internal ID in the database, that ID doesn’t change.
The part ID is just another description, shorter and unique.

Think about when they add a digit to the numbered minifigs (bla001 becoming bla0001).

Right. These "x" numbers are changed all the time when the actual number becomes
known. I'm surprised it wasn't done here.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, jonwil writes:
  
 
Part No: x168  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
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x168 Minifigure, Headgear Helmet Space / Town with Breathing Hose
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?

Should it be renamed?

It has been renamed.

Is there a reason that the "x" number is still the primary number when the actual
part number is now known?
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I'd say get rid of the current numbering system and give the sticker sheets
the part number which is written on the sheet itself. Then put the set # into
the description.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Thanks in advance for assistance. And then probably after, too.

Thank you all for your input. I genuinely appreciate it. The responses were
more than I expected in both quantity and quality. You've all been extremely
helpful.

 
Part No: 32553c01  Name: Bionicle Head Connector Block 3 x 4 x 1 2/3 with Trans-Green Eye / Brain Stalk (32553 / 32554)
* 
32553c01 (Inv) Bionicle Head Connector Block 3 x 4 x 1 2/3 with Trans-Green Eye / Brain Stalk (32553 / 32554)
Parts: BIONICLE

Thank you very much! Even with a custom made tool, my hands hurt after removing
them... especially when I used to get them in sometimes by the dozens at a time...
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In Inventories, tEoS writes:
  I like the idea of adding and inventorying these boxes (especially the ones w/o
a peek hole), though I wish it could have been done years ago. Still, as they
say, better late than never.

  Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.

In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.

Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.

Cheers,
Randy

I've glad that they not have catalog entries of their own.
The only way it will work in actually set inventories, is if there is a way to
part down parts in sets easily. If so, I think it would be good.
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, alphadavy writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  
   How would you recommend selling a complete set of CMFs?

Personally, I would do what these other sellers have done and list the whole
set under the random entry. As long as you describe things clearly in your notes,
buyers will understand that they are paying for a whole set. This is one of those
areas where the average prices must be deduced from scanning listings or sold
listings instead of the calculated averages.

It is a shame that the site cannot do something and step in and help sellers
and buyers here, by realising what they need. Some people want to sell and buy
complete series. I thought the primary goal of bricklink was to enable sales
of LEGO, so adding a "complete series" for each CMF or similar series would work
well for those people. Does it really matter that they were never sold that way
by LEGO? If need be, this information could always be added as a note to a complete
series entry.


+1

It's about time!

Here you go. Let's try it out.
 
Set No: 41775  Name: Character, Unikitty!, Series 1 (Complete Random Set of 1 Character)
* 
41775-1 (Inv) Character, Unikitty!, Series 1 (Complete Random Set of 1 Character)
1 Set, 2018
Sets: Unikitty!: Unikitty! Series 1
 
Set No: 41775  Name: Character, Unikitty!, Series 1 (Complete Series of 12 Complete Character Sets)
* 
41775-2 (Inv) Character, Unikitty!, Series 1 (Complete Series of 12 Complete Character Sets)
12 Sets, 2018
Sets: Unikitty!: Unikitty! Series 1

Let me know if you think the random one needs a big question mark placed over
it. If people like this entry and use it, we'll go ahead and add the others.


Isn't there a better way to reword these types of entries?

"Complete Random Set of 1 Minifigure"

This wording still seems confusing. Even if "Complete Set of 1 Random Minifigure"
it would make more sense. But I would think using "complete" makes it confusing
for the most part.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  I have been searching for an image of this set for years:

 
Set No: 9978  Name: Home Environment
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9978-1 (Inv) Home Environment
70 Parts, 4 Minifigures
Sets: Educational & Dacta: DUPLO: Playhouse

The set has no date of addition, so it must have been added to the site not too
terribly long after BrickLink was founded. At times I have wondered if the set
was even real, but the specificity of its name always made me think that it must
have existed.

Today I got this catalog in the mail which was not in the BrickLink database
and which I just now added:

 
Catalog No: c92usdac  Name: 1992 Large US Dacta (Play is the Work of Children)
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c92usdac 1992 Large US Dacta (Play is the Work of Children)
Catalogs: 1992: Educational & Dacta

In that catalog I finally found the long-missing image and added it. I'm
pretty confident that this is the only website anywhere that you can see an image
of set 9978-1. I'm pretty excited that my long search has finally ended
in satisfaction and wanted to share.

We are now down to only 29 sets without any image (and one of them is from 2018,
so it doesn't really count). If you'd like to see what we're missing,
click here:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=S&imgID=0&itemBrand=1000

Remember too, there's a couple polybags for parts that came with books that
were recently rejected that I submitted because neither I nor you were able to
locate a photo.
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In Catalog, DadsAFOL writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

  But before we change anything, let us discuss. Do you want minifigure titles
to include set numbers? Do you find set numbers in minifigure titles useful
or can you live without them? Once we decide and get written policy in place,
then we only need to examine the titles of all the minifigures and adjust as
necessary. If we go with including set numbers, then the format would be this
(with the words Multiple Sets instead of individual set numbers for figures that
appear in more than one set):

Minifigure Name (Set 1000-1)
Minifigure Name (Multiple Sets)

If we go with not including set numbers, then we just need to remove existing
set numbers from titles. I don't have a preference either way on this one.
Thoughts?

I know you are working within the "no new development" constraints, but if you
could get a few minutes of dev time, this could be better solved with a dynamic
append to the display name based on the "appears in" reference. So the set
number(s) is never in the actual description text. This solves the issues of
maintaining changes if the same figure already in the database is reused later,
or some correction to the association is made.

Minifigure Name [In Set 1000-1]
Minifigure Name [In Multiple Sets]

A user option could be enabled for "Show Minifigure Set References". Search
results could add another tab that shows "Results Contain Figures", so searching
"Set 1000" would show me that set, and all of the contents of that set.

You could actually take this a step further and enable the dynamic append for
all objects -- animals, parts assemblies, the proposed sub-sets function,
etc. This would be extremely useful for printed torsos, decorated tiles, and
other generally unique parts.

-Jason

I think this is one of the better suggestions on this topic.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  First, let me thank you all for your assistance with these projects. Thanks
to your hard work and discussion we have completed four projects within the last
month and three are ongoing:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

The seventh project consists of moving every 47th item in the Set item type to
the Gear item type. This is necessary because the Set item type just seems larger
than the Gear item type. When these items are moved, perhaps we can also give
them funny titles.

On a more serious note, this project actually consists of standardizing
whether set numbers appear in minifigure titles. Here are some examples of different
ways set numbers are included or not included in minifigure titles:

 
Minifig No: twn215  Name: Balloon Vendor
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twn215 (Inv) Balloon Vendor
Minifigures: Town
 
Minifig No: env002  Name: Coast Guard Captain  - White Hat, Torso Sticker with 4 Buttons and Badge
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env002 (Inv) Coast Guard Captain - White Hat, Torso Sticker with 4 Buttons and Badge
Minifigures: Town: Classic Town: Coast Guard
 
Minifig No: twn019s  Name: Patron - Black Suit with Two Buttons and Red Tie (Torso Sticker), Black Legs, Black Cowboy Hat
* 
twn019s (Inv) Patron - Black Suit with Two Buttons and Red Tie (Torso Sticker), Black Legs, Black Cowboy Hat
Minifigures: Town: Classic Town
 
Minifig No: pln115  Name: Plain White Torso with White Arms, Red Legs, Red Female Hair
* 
pln115 (Inv) Plain White Torso with White Arms, Red Legs, Red Female Hair
Minifigures: Town: Classic Town
 
Minifig No: tech027  Name: Technic Figure Orange/Black Legs, Orange Torso with Silver Pattern, Black Arms, Black Hair
* 
tech027 Technic Figure Orange/Black Legs, Orange Torso with Silver Pattern, Black Arms, Black Hair
Minifigures: Technic: Competition
 
Minifig No: frnd102  Name: Friends Stephanie - Dark Pink Shorts, White Top with Stars
* 
frnd102 (Inv) Friends Stephanie - Dark Pink Shorts, White Top with Stars
Minifigures: Friends
 
Minifig No: bob034  Name: Flying Dutchman
* 
bob034 (Inv) Flying Dutchman
Minifigures: SpongeBob SquarePants

I realized that standardizing this would be as simple as a single sentence added
to the appropriate section of this page (which hasn't been updated since
2010):

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=179

But before we change anything, let us discuss. Do you want minifigure titles
to include set numbers? Do you find set numbers in minifigure titles useful
or can you live without them? Once we decide and get written policy in place,
then we only need to examine the titles of all the minifigures and adjust as
necessary. If we go with including set numbers, then the format would be this
(with the words Multiple Sets instead of individual set numbers for figures that
appear in more than one set):

Minifigure Name (Set 1000-1)
Minifigure Name (Multiple Sets)

If we go with not including set numbers, then we just need to remove existing
set numbers from titles. I don't have a preference either way on this one.
Thoughts?




If it were my own database and I was doing it for myself, I do not think I would
include set numbers in the title. However, if it does help people out, I cannot
think of any harm that it would do to have the extra information and it might
help some people find a figure better in certain cases. I was also thinking,
when there are, say, 50 differet Luke Skywalker figures (I didn't actually
do any sort of count, so I don't know the actual number) how is someone to
know the difference between 5 different Luke Hoths without the set numbering
helping with the identification. It would seem in those cases that that would
really help distinguish the entries better. So, because it seems that it would
help others, I would for making that consistence, as long as the figure probably
appears in 3 or less sets.

Andrew
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  
 
Part No: 3184  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Tow Ball
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3184 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Tow Ball
Parts: Plate, Modified
Brown

Why was this deleted? The brown appears in two sets.

It was deleted because I wasn't paying enough attention. I've double
checked every single image before I deleted it, but this one slipped by me.


Which is strangely good that I checked it, because it's one of the only ones
I checked.
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Part No: 3184  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Tow Ball
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3184 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with Tow Ball
Parts: Plate, Modified
Brown


Why was this deleted? The brown appears in two sets.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  A new catalog project has begun:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

As you can see, the (Other) project is now complete and LordSkylark's project
is temporarily on hold.

The fifth catalog project is to remove images which are renders and which show
parts which do not exist in the colors shown. There are estimated to be 1,600
of these renders left in the catalog and there is no easy way for me to locate
them.

I would imagine the majority of them are for basic, undecorated parts. Please
post here with micro tags for the parts which need rendered images removed and
specify the colors. I will review the findings and remove the renders where
appropriate. Please note that this project will not be removing any actual
photos of parts.

Thank you all for your assistance.


So basically at this stage, if a part does not appear in an actual set, then
bricklink wants an actual physical photo to verify that it does in fact exist?
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  I will restate that this needs to be done.

No need, friend.

I already know that you feel strongly about this, as you do about many things.

  These are ENTIRELY different parts. THey even have ENTIRELY different part numbers.

I am fully aware of this. I have studied the issue and I understand it. Did
you carefully read Jen's post?

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1114537

Where would this stop? And, by the way, exactly how many mini doll legs are
we talking here?

These would have to be handled like any other part variant split. We mark the
current catalog entries for deletion (again, how many?) and create two new entries.
Thus, it would be exactly as disruptive as any other split.

What I definitely will do is add them to this list for you if you'll give
me a list:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940

Any future part splits will come from that list (with functional differences
being a priority, obviously). I'd also like to add additional notes to all
mini doll legs and other parts with these kinds of differences, so please do
post a list.

I tend to support your position that these parts should be split and the current
catalog entries marked for deletion, but my job is to also consider the disruption
part-splitting has on people's businesses.


I think it would stop wherever Lego decides it to stop.
Printed and dual-molded arms are entirely different parts too. These are distinguished
as far as I am aware.
We distinguish between solid, hollow, and blocked open studs for heads. I would
think that would be much more extreme than the friends legs.
If it isn't split now -- it will cause even more hassle in the future.


Here's some images.
 


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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  I will restate that this needs to be done.

No need, friend.

I already know that you feel strongly about this, as you do about many things.

  These are ENTIRELY different parts. THey even have ENTIRELY different part numbers.

I am fully aware of this. I have studied the issue and I understand it. Did
you carefully read Jen's post?

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1114537

Where would this stop? And, by the way, exactly how many mini doll legs are
we talking here?

These would have to be handled like any other part variant split. We mark the
current catalog entries for deletion (again, how many?) and create two new entries.
Thus, it would be exactly as disruptive as any other split.

What I definitely will do is add them to this list for you if you'll give
me a list:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940

Any future part splits will come from that list (with functional differences
being a priority, obviously). I'd also like to add additional notes to all
mini doll legs and other parts with these kinds of differences, so please do
post a list.

I tend to support your position that these parts should be split and the current
catalog entries marked for deletion, but my job is to also consider the disruption
part-splitting has on people's businesses.


I think it would stop wherever Lego decides it to stop.
Printed and dual-molded arms are entirely different parts too. These are distinguished
as far as I am aware.
We distinguish between solid, hollow, and blocked open studs for heads. I would
think that would be much more extreme than the friends legs.
If it isn't split now -- it will cause even more hassle in the future.
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Reorganizing/renumbering certain mini doll legs to reflect a change in production
methods.


No one knew what was going on with this one. Nine people had no opinion, two
said maybe, two said yes, and one said no. If it's so obscure of an issue
that no one even knows about it, then I don't believe it needs to be addressed
(at least not by new catalog entries). However, I will be happy to add additional
notes to any parts affected by changes in molding process if someone will give
me a list of such parts and suggestions on wording.



I will restate that this needs to be done.
Most people probably do not deal much with friends parts.
These are ENTIRELY different parts. THey even have ENTIRELY different part numbers.

The one type of legs are printed.
The other type of legs are dual-molded.
The printed legs look much worse than the dual-molded ones.
This seems more serious to me than some of the other entries with multiple variants.

Andrew
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In Catalog Requests, dearlydeparted writes:
  I think this is a bad call, that complete assembly is necessary, but just my
2 cents, others may disagree. And absolutely not looking forward to wasting
the time to "undo" and reenter years worth of inventory.

"Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel - Complete Assembly - (MARKED FOR DELETION)
Item No: 3830c01

This item was marked for deletion because it sets a precedent for adding dozens
of unnecessary combinations of hinges as assemblies to the catalog."

I understand the reason for the deletion of this part. But since it has been
in the catalog for a very very long time, and many people do use this listing,
I would be in favor in keeping in around for the sake of others, even though
I myself do not use it.
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I think I forgot about posting this in my previous list...
What about inventorying key chains and magnets that normally do not come apart?
There are some rare parts that are ONLY included in these and it would be good
to know how to get certain parts.

Andrew
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I'd say go with a Skeleton & Ghost category, but retain the numbering system
with "Gen" (at least for now). Because many of these span multiple series, I
cannot see a better way to do it.
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In Catalog, WhiteVanMan writes:
  Hi

I saw this on Amazon Prime, and I was instantly curious as to what the name really
means

 
Set No: 2729  Name: Greedy (Quattro Leg) polybag
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2729-1 (Inv) Greedy (Quattro Leg) polybag
17 Parts, 1999
Sets: Universal Building Set: Classic Basic

Why is this packaged as a McDonalds set, and it has nothing to do with Quattro?

Maybe this is an item that needs to be 'sorted out'?

Regards,

Paul

I wonder if "Quattro" by chance has the same name as the theme.
Either way - the offical set name given by Lego's Part's and Replacement
site is "Greedy"
Is the "Quattro" name on the bag or listed anywhere else? If not, we should change
it to the official name, I would think.
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I am very patient, but I do get ill-tempered when I see that reasonable, valuable
member feedback is dismissed or ignored (I am not accusing you of this!) I understand
that these changes are aimed at improving the buyer experience but please also
put yourself in the shoes of sellers with thousands of lots and hundreds of thousands
of parts who are packing orders every day: imagine dealing with a diaspora where
100+ items suddenly move to 100 different categories and information about their
former home is difficult to find (how many members know how to find the change
log and would they even think to look there?)

  
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1113001


Being one of those large sellers... It will not disrupt anything on this end
in the slightest, as I categorize my parts in my inventory myself and I know
where almost every part is just by image alone.
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  Spike - move to Minifigure, Utensil

I would move this into the same category as all of the other barbs/claws/horns
for consistency.


I second this. That is the box I have mine in for inventory.
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I also feel that the monikers 'North American Version' and 'International
Version' in sticker names should be replaced with the sticker code located
in one of the corners of the sticker sheet since these stickers do not appear
to have a discernible pattern of distribution at all times.


This is very true. I have had both variants in North America sets for various
sets.
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, mhortar writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Here's the plan: I'm going to post back here later today with all my
proposed changes (I may have to take this in steps) and give people a chance
to comment.

If you do have a comment/suggestion on where these parts are going, please suggest
an alternative location. Before you comment, look at the situation carefully
and present a good argument about why the proposed category is inappropriate.

Parts:

Beehive - move to Cone

I think 'Animal - Air' might be better for this, but that's just
a thought.


Or Minifigure, Utensil

  
  Spiral Pole - move to Hose

My first thought on this was that it should go to Axle, but Hose is probably
a better fit.

  Waves - create new category titled Wave

This one has me conflicted. There's a number of these Wave items that should
be in 'Minfig - Utensil' but others should not. Is it better to keep
them all together in a new category, or split them based on common usage?

Josh


Beehive might be good for Minifigure, Utsensil... or perhaps food(?). It's
also used as cotton candy I think.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Here's the plan: I'm going to post back here later today with all my
proposed changes (I may have to take this in steps) and give people a chance
to comment.

If you do have a comment/suggestion on where these parts are going, please suggest
an alternative location. Before you comment, look at the situation carefully
and present a good argument about why the proposed category is inappropriate.

Parts:

There are 98 Other parts. Going in order by the standard way of displaying these
(Item Name, Up):

Two babies - move to minifigures
Ball - create new category titled Ball
Beehive - move to Cone
Han Solo in Carbonite - move to Minifigure
BrickHeadz glasses - move to Bar
Chains - create new category titled Chain
Chest armor - move to Large Figure Part
Finials - move to new Ball category
Hand, Mechanical - move to Large Figure Part
Human Tools - create new category titled Accessory, Human Tool
Infinity Stones - move to Minifigure, Utensil
Light Cover - move to Cone
Obscure Item - leave in other
Slides - create new category titled Slide
Power Bursts - move to Minifigure, Utensil
Rings - create new category titled Ring
Rip Cords - move to new Accessory, Human Tool category
Rope Bridge - move to Stairs
Rotor, Spinjitzu - move to Propeller
Shaft Clip - move to new Accessory, Human Tool category
Skull - move to Rock
Spike - move to Minifigure, Utensil
Spiral Pole - move to Hose
Spring - create new category titled Spring (some of these in Technic which could
be moved)
Spring Shooter - move to Brick, Modified
Star Wars Multipack - move to Minifigure, Utensil
Tassel - move to Minifigure, Utensil
Waves - create new category titled Wave
Wing / Sail Holder - move to new Accessory, Human Tool category
Wing - move to Wing
Zipline - move to new Accessory, Human Tool category

Okay, that's all the parts. Let's discuss it.


Obscure item is technically an electric wire part. You could move it there.
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Here is another I came across that I'm not sure exactly what the state is...

 
Part No: 53989  Name: Arm Mechanical, Exo-Force / Bionicle, Thin Support
* 
53989 Arm Mechanical, Exo-Force / Bionicle, Thin Support
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part



 
Part No: 98313  Name: Arm Mechanical, Exo-Force / Bionicle, Thick Support
* 
98313 Arm Mechanical, Exo-Force / Bionicle, Thick Support
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part


Should 53989 be renamed "thin support"? These even have entirely different catalog
numbers. It would make it definite that it's not an undetermined (as I do
not think the intention is).
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Want to know where we're going with the catalog? Hard to do without a map,
isn't it?

I'm excessively pleased to announce the all-new Catalog Roadmap in the Help
Center:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

If you lose that link, you can always find the page in the Help Center for the
catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=21

This is an effort to increase transparency about what is happening with the BrickLink
catalog and to make it feel more like a community effort. And, of course, to
get some stuff done.

And no, before anyone asks, I don't know what's going on with the site
roadmap. I thought it was a fantastic feature and I'm quite excited to finally
have something similar for the catalog.

Feedback? Ideas? Comments?

Found another one in the notes on my desk!

I would like to see a part category created called "Cardboard Sleeve". This category
would include any cardboard sleeves that originally come in sets. Why is this
important?

(1) These cardboard sleeves could be numbered according to the number on the
cardboard sleeve so that they are searchable.
(2) These cardboard sleeves could then be added to set inventories as they originally
came packaged.
(3) These cardboard sleeves could then be inventoried so they would not need
to be opened to know what is in them.
(4) Additional notes on catalog entries could be completely removed and cleaned
up (such as the ones on part 522).
(5) People would have no reason to keep trying to add the codes on the cardboard
sleeves as PCCs to catalog entries (such as the ones on part 522).

Cheers,
Randy


A great idea!
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  I think there still are some inconsistencies in the catalog:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=202697
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=235406

I think those issues were never solved.

Thank you for mentioning this. I have added it to the list:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

One of the things that contributes to part category confusion is not having specific
written definitions of individual part categories and what should be contained
therein.

Speaking of this, do you think that 6934a and 6934b could be in the same category?
(Preferrably tiles rather than Scala).

Andrew
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  The first major catalog project is now underway. This first project consists
of retitling certain minifigure heads and there are instructions on the Catalog
Roadmap for how to help get it finished:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

My goal for completing this thing is one week and I would appreciate any assistance.
To avoid duplication of effort, please use this forum thread to coordinate your
efforts as necessary.

Why don't I just go in and retitle every affected head myself? Because it
is roughly the same amount of work for me to retitle a part as it would be for
a member to submit a catalog change request to retitle a part. I am only one
person with a full-time job outside of BrickLink and I simply don't have
that much time.

When you submit a catalog change request, all I have to do is read through a
list and make sure you've gotten it right. Then I click a checkbox for each
requested change and approve them. Alternatively, once I see that all the requested
changes are correct I can mass-approve them without checking the boxes. The
attached image shows you what I see when you submit change requests.

I know many of you want changes to the catalog and if those changes happen, then
we're all going to have to share the work. The open catalog changes requests
queue is pretty much cleared out and ready for action. So inundate me with change
requests for C-type heads and let's get something done!

Thank you all for your suggestions for changes and the assistance you provide
in making them actually happen.


While this is in process, do you think it would be okay for either of the following?

Retitle all heads with print on both sides "dual-sided" even if it is not a face
on both sides?

Make a new category specifically for dual-sided heads?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, novabrick writes:
  I just skimmed through so someone may already suggested this

May I suggest merging Hero Factory and Bionicle parts( and possible some of the
old slizer Technic Ball parts like [p=bb78])
And maybe split it up in weapons, ball joints and everything else while at it.

Yes, it has been mentioned several times. I was in favor of not making any major
changes here, but it seems I'm being slowly outvoted. The existence of the
category Large Figure Parts is, of itself, a precedence for moving away from
themed categories for these things.

Let me do this: does anyone want to argue in favor of keeping large figure
parts (Galidor, Ben 10, Star Wars, Hero Factory, certain Technic sets like Throwbot
/ Slizer, Bionicle, etc.) in separate categories by theme (as they are, somewhat,
now)? Does anyone agree with the theory that new buyers might tend to be attracted
to themed categories? Do any Bionicle fans, for example, find it easier to locate
Bionicle parts when they're all in one place?

If you have an opinion, please speak up. Only a tiny percentage of members use
the forum and each person who speaks presents a viewpoint representing, in theory,
a bunch of other members who don't come here or take the time to comment.


The only one I would be okay with leaving in its own category would be Galidor.
But if it is combined with the rest, I do not have a problem with that.
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In Catalog, JulieK writes:
  Bumping
In Catalog, JulieK writes:
  Is there a reason this entry isn't separated into 2 entries?

 
Part No: 2453a  Name: Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Hollow Stud
* 
2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Hollow Stud
Parts: Brick


These have their own entry:
[p=30151a]
[p=30151b]

Thanks!


I share the same question which you have.
When I originally submitted the parts, I submitted them as having
Solid Stud, Blocked Open Stud, Stud Recessed.

Russel decided to put Blocked Open Stud and Stud Recessed into a single entry.
I would be for splitting that into two entries. But I know that everything I
want is not going to be agreed upon, so I rested it. But maybe he can clarify
for you why.
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Thank you for letting me know. It used to be a bricklink policy not to allow
this practice. I am glad to know that this is no longer the case.

  
  Allow entries for alternate sticker parts. For example, with older trains, there
were many extra stickers included that were not placed in the instructions, but
could be used for alternates.

These are already allowed. For example, see the alternate license plates for
the VW Beetle:

 
Part No: 63864pb062  Name: Tile 1 x 3 with 'MAT' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10252
* 
63864pb062 Tile 1 x 3 with 'MAT' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10252
Parts: Tile, Decorated
 
Part No: 63864pb064  Name: Tile 1 x 3 with '278B' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10252
* 
63864pb064 Tile 1 x 3 with '278B' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10252
Parts: Tile, Decorated
 
Part No: 63864pb065  Name: Tile 1 x 3 with 'QLD CAD-156' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10252
* 
63864pb065 Tile 1 x 3 with 'QLD CAD-156' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10252
Parts: Tile, Decorated

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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Want to know where we're going with the catalog? Hard to do without a map,
isn't it?

I'm excessively pleased to announce the all-new Catalog Roadmap in the Help
Center:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

If you lose that link, you can always find the page in the Help Center for the
catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=21

This is an effort to increase transparency about what is happening with the BrickLink
catalog and to make it feel more like a community effort. And, of course, to
get some stuff done.

And no, before anyone asks, I don't know what's going on with the site
roadmap. I thought it was a fantastic feature and I'm quite excited to finally
have something similar for the catalog.

Feedback? Ideas? Comments?

A couple from me:

1) Delete all rendered part images in the catalog that don't exist as real
parts. I estimate there are about 1600 images to delete, maybe more as people
discover them.

2) Add up to 75 "early" minifigs to the catalog to finally resolve the issue
of the solid stud head. We would start from 1978 minifigs and proceed forward
in time.


I agree with all of these.
However, a question I have is:
There are lots of parts that never appeared in sets. Would we simply remove them
and wait for someone else to resubmit proof that it existed? Also, there are
a lot of bionicle parts that only appeared in random colors in certain random
bionicle part assorment kits. There are actually many pieces that would appear
in colors only in those kits, and therefore would not have been linked to any
inventory, since those kits contain random elements.
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Part No: 3229  Name: Train, Track Rail Curved Outside
* 
3229 Train, Track Rail Curved Outside
Parts: Train, Track
Marked for Deletion
 
Part No: 3230  Name: Train, Track Rail Curved Inside
* 
3230 Train, Track Rail Curved Inside
Parts: Train, Track
Marked for Deletion
 
Part No: 3231  Name: Train, Track 4.5V Crossing
* 
3231 Train, Track 4.5V Crossing
Parts: Train, Track
 
Part No: 3241  Name: Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved
* 
3241 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved
Parts: Train, Track
 
Part No: 3242  Name: Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
* 
3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
Parts: Train, Track
Regarding these train items: It is not clear to me if all variants have already
been listed and if these remained undetermined or what? (I am not familiar with
train items.)

 
Part No: 3933  Name: Wedge, Plate 8 x 4 Wing Left
* 
3933 Wedge, Plate 8 x 4 Wing Left
Parts: Wedge, Plate
A only.

 
Part No: 3934  Name: Wedge, Plate 8 x 4 Wing Right
* 
3934 Wedge, Plate 8 x 4 Wing Right
Parts: Wedge, Plate
A only.

 
Part No: 715  Name: Wheel with 12 Studs
* 
715 Wheel with 12 Studs
Parts: Wheel

 
Part No: 966  Name: Vehicle, Trailer Base 4 x 16 x 1, Platform
* 
966 Vehicle, Trailer Base 4 x 16 x 1, Platform
Parts: Vehicle, Base
 
Part No: 966a  Name: Vehicle, Trailer Base 4 x 16 x 1, Ramp
* 
966a Vehicle, Trailer Base 4 x 16 x 1, Ramp
Parts: Vehicle, Base
The door part of this I would think should be named something other than 966
so that it does not fall into variant number scheme. 966 seems to be the trailer,
so this should probably have a different part number entirely since it is a different
part.

 
Part No: 6580  Name: Wheel 43.2 x 28 Balloon Small
* 
6580 Wheel 43.2 x 28 Balloon Small
Parts: Wheel
A only

 
Part No: 7039  Name: Wheel with 4 Studs and Metal Axle
* 
7039 Wheel with 4 Studs and Metal Axle
Parts: Wheel
B,C,D only

 
Part No: 3634  Name: Tire 17 x 43
* 
3634 Tire 17 x 43
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread
B only.

 
Part No: 61254  Name: Tire 24mm D. x 7mm Offset Tread - Band Around Center of Tread
* 
61254 Tire 24mm D. x 7mm Offset Tread - Band Around Center of Tread
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread

 
Part No: 6542  Name: Technic, Gear 16 Tooth with Clutch
* 
6542 Technic, Gear 16 Tooth with Clutch
Parts: Technic, Gear
B only

 
Part No: 132old  Name: Tire Smooth - Small Solid
* 
132old Tire Smooth - Small Solid
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread
etc,
Could be renamed A,B,C

 
Part No: x486  Name: Tread with 30 Treads
* 
x486 Tread with 30 Treads
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread



Probably lots more. But these might be all for now. (Did not check any minifigure
related items for sure)
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Another thing. Do you think it's time for an Aircraft, Stickered category??



[P=30554]
I'm not sure about this one. The B variant is distinguished, but the regular
number seems to be the one without a hole. Should this simpyl receive a catalog
request to be named "30554A"?

 
Part No: 3149c01  Name: Hinge Plate 2 x 4
* 
3149c01 (Inv) Hinge Plate 2 x 4
Parts: Hinge
The current version is inventoried with a red pivot. There is an alternate version
of this assembly which has a black pivot instead of a red pivot. Considering
that we have now added every variant of the 1x2 brick hinge assemblies, this
would also follow suit to have this.

 
Part No: 3063  Name: Brick, Round Corner 2 x 2 Macaroni with Stud Notch
* 
3063 Brick, Round Corner 2 x 2 Macaroni with Stud Notch
Parts: Brick, Round
This may simply need to be renamed to 3063a

 
Part No: 4589  Name: Cone 1 x 1
* 
4589 Cone 1 x 1
Parts: Cone
This may simply need to be renamed to 4589a

[P=30241]
This only has a B variant.

 
Part No: 3134  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Cable Holding Cutout
* 
3134 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Cable Holding Cutout
Parts: Brick, Modified
This only has an A variant.

 
Part No: 30237  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Clip (Vertical Grip) (Undetermined Type)
* 
30237 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Clip (Vertical Grip) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Brick, Modified
This only has a B variant.

 
Part No: 2339  Name: Arch 1 x 5 x 4 - Continuous Bow
* 
2339 Arch 1 x 5 x 4 - Continuous Bow
Parts: Arch
Perhaps more investigation into alternate number 14395


[P=46212]
I think there are recessed and blocked open studs of this part



 
Part No: 445  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 4 Left
* 
445 Door 1 x 3 x 4 Left
Parts: Door
This only has an A variant.

 
Part No: 446  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 4 Right
* 
446 Door 1 x 3 x 4 Right
Parts: Door
This only has an A variant.

 
Part No: 801  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 3 Left with Window and Vertical Handle (Undetermined Type)
* 
801 Door 1 x 3 x 3 Left with Window and Vertical Handle (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Door, Decorated
Marked for Deletion
This shouod probably be renamed to 801b.

 
Part No: 802  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 3 Right with Window and Vertical Handle (Undetermined Type)
* 
802 Door 1 x 3 x 3 Right with Window and Vertical Handle (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Door, Decorated
Marked for Deletion
This should probably be renamed to 802b.

 
Part No: 3188  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 2 Right
* 
3188 Door 1 x 3 x 2 Right
Parts: Door
Only A variant.

 
Part No: 3189  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 2 Left
* 
3189 Door 1 x 3 x 2 Left
Parts: Door
Only A variant.

 
Part No: 3192  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 3 Right
* 
3192 Door 1 x 3 x 3 Right
Parts: Door
Only A variant.

 
Part No: 3193  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 3 Left
* 
3193 Door 1 x 3 x 3 Left
Parts: Door
Only A variant.

 
Part No: 3194  Name: Door 1 x 5 x 4 Right
* 
3194 Door 1 x 5 x 4 Right
Parts: Door
Only A variant.

 
Part No: 3195  Name: Door 1 x 5 x 4 Left
* 
3195 Door 1 x 5 x 4 Left
Parts: Door
Only A variant.

 
Part No: 3188  Name: Door 1 x 3 x 2 Right
* 
3188 Door 1 x 3 x 2 Right
Parts: Door
This only has an A variant.

 
Part No: 2476  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin on Bottom
* 
2476 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin on Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
B only.

 
Part No: 4151  Name: Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille
* 
4151 Plate, Modified 8 x 8 with Grille
Parts: Plate, Modified
B & C only.

 
Part No: 60470  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 2 U Clips (Horizontal Grip)
* 
60470 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 2 U Clips (Horizontal Grip)
Parts: Plate, Modified
B only.

 
Part No: x461  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces
* 
x461 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Steam Engine Cylinder, Round Surfaces
Parts: Plate, Modified
B only.

 
Part No: 712  Name: Plate, Round Curved 4 x 8 Left
* 
712 Plate, Round Curved 4 x 8 Left
Parts: Plate, Round
&
 
Part No: 713  Name: Plate, Round Curved 4 x 8 Right
* 
713 Plate, Round Curved 4 x 8 Right
Parts: Plate, Round
Not sure about these, but I listed them anyway.

 
Part No: 4617  Name: Propeller 3 Blade 5.5 Diameter
* 
4617 Propeller 3 Blade 5.5 Diameter
Parts: Propeller
A only.

 
Part No: 4286  Name: Slope 33 3 x 1
* 
4286 Slope 33 3 x 1
Parts: Slope
Not sure about this one either... But only B.

 
Part No: 3040  Name: Slope 45 2 x 1
* 
3040 Slope 45 2 x 1
Parts: Slope
Only A variant.

 
Part No: 3037  Name: Slope 45 2 x 4
* 
3037 Slope 45 2 x 4
Parts: Slope
Not sure about this one either...

 
Part No: 32064  Name: Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
* 
32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick
B & C only.

 
Part No: 57909  Name: Technic, Brick Modified 2 x 2 with Ball Joint and Axle Hole
* 
57909 Technic, Brick Modified 2 x 2 with Ball Joint and Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick
B only.

 
Part No: 4273  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Toggle Joint Toothed
* 
4273 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Toggle Joint Toothed
Parts: Technic, Connector
A only
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In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends.

For your convenient reference, we now have a list with links and descriptions
of known part variants which are not distinguished by BrickLink:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940

This list is majorly incomplete and I could use some assistance in completing
it. If you're bored and want to gather additional variants not yet shown
on the list, please respond to this message with your list of variants (macro
tags appreciated, but not absolutely necessary).

To save others duplicating work, you might reply first saying you're going
to be working on it.

I may be able to do it again.
But a couple I know:



 
Part No: 4747  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 4 with Coupling, Male
* 
4747 Brick, Modified 2 x 4 with Coupling, Male
Parts: Brick, Modified
Only has a B variant, no A variant.

 
Part No: 3957  Name: Antenna 4H - Round Top
* 
3957 Antenna 4H - Round Top
Parts: Antenna
Only has B variant (flat), no A variant (rounded)

 
Part No: 4865  Name: Panel 1 x 2 x 1
* 
4865 Panel 1 x 2 x 1
Parts: Panel
Only has B variant (rounded corners), no A variant (square corners)
(people mostly WANT the square variant)

 
Part No: 4079  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Seat / Chair 2 x 2
* 
4079 Minifigure, Utensil Seat / Chair 2 x 2
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
Only has B variant (sprue mark), no A variant
(people mostly WANT the A variant)

 
Part No: 2494  Name: Glass for Window 1 x 4 x 5
* 
2494 Glass for Window 1 x 4 x 5
Parts: Window, Glass & Shutter
This is not distinguished in any way. Some windows have a sprue mark in the center
(which is terrible looking) and others do not.

 
Part No: 2493  Name: Window 1 x 4 x 5 (Undetermined Type)
* 
2493 Window 1 x 4 x 5 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Window
Only has A variant (solid studs), no B variant (hollow studs)

 
Part No: 2436  Name: Bracket 1 x 2 - 1 x 4
* 
2436 Bracket 1 x 2 - 1 x 4
Parts: Bracket
Only has B variant (rounded corners), no A variant (square corners)
(people mostly WANT the A variant)

 
Part No: 4032  Name: Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
* 
4032 Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Plate, Round
Only has B variant (X center), no A variant (regular + center)

 
Part No: 6191  Name: Slope, Curved 1 x 4 x 1 1/3
* 
6191 Slope, Curved 1 x 4 x 1 1/3
Parts: Slope, Curved
No variants listed.
Variant A = with a bar on the bottom across the center which prevents a stud
from insertin into it. (this is part 6191)
Variant B = with the bar lowered so that a stud can fit into it (this is part
10314)
THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE AND THE PARTS HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NUMBERS

 
Part No: 4088  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 2 Center Stud Top
* 
4088 Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 2 Center Stud Top
Parts: Brick, Modified
No variants lsited.
Variant A = completely open on bottom
Variant B = with bars on the bottom
THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE AND SHOULD HAVE ITS OWN ENTRIES

 
Part No: 3612  Name: Arm Piece Straight with 2 and 3 Fingers
* 
3612 Arm Piece Straight with 2 and 3 Fingers
Parts: Arm
Variant A = no slot for finger
Variant B = with slot for finger
THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE. DUE TO THE EARLY VARIANT, IT MAKES
REMOVING A PART ATTACHED TO THIS VERY DIFFICULT, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN DAMAGE
(see an alternate image which I myself submitted)


 
Part No: 92250c00pb02  Name: Mini Doll Hips and Skirt Layered, Light Nougat Legs and Medium Lavender Shoes with Ankle Straps Pattern - Thick Hinge
* 
92250c00pb02 Mini Doll Hips and Skirt Layered, Light Nougat Legs and Medium Lavender Shoes with Ankle Straps Pattern - Thick Hinge
Parts: Mini Doll, Legs
I uploaded an alternate image at one point, which can be seen in the catalog
entry itself. But this shows the friend legs.
The first one is Dark Blue legs with light flesh print.
The second is light flesh legs joined with dark blue hips.

Many friends legs have this variant. I think this is significant enough to warrant
separate entries (unfortunately). And I believe that all of these now have different
parts numbers molded into them too.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  I am wasting no time in making your lives marginally better, my friends.

For your convenient reference, we now have a list with links and descriptions
of known part variants which are not distinguished by BrickLink:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=940

This list is majorly incomplete and I could use some assistance in completing
it. If you're bored and want to gather additional variants not yet shown
on the list, please respond to this message with your list of variants (macro
tags appreciated, but not absolutely necessary).

To save others duplicating work, you might reply first saying you're going
to be working on it.

I may be able to do it again.
But a couple I know:



 
Part No: 4747  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 4 with Coupling, Male
* 
4747 Brick, Modified 2 x 4 with Coupling, Male
Parts: Brick, Modified
Only has a B variant, no A variant.

 
Part No: 3957  Name: Antenna 4H - Round Top
* 
3957 Antenna 4H - Round Top
Parts: Antenna
Only has B variant (flat), no A variant (rounded)

 
Part No: 4865  Name: Panel 1 x 2 x 1
* 
4865 Panel 1 x 2 x 1
Parts: Panel
Only has B variant (rounded corners), no A variant (square corners)
(people mostly WANT the square variant)

 
Part No: 4079  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Seat / Chair 2 x 2
* 
4079 Minifigure, Utensil Seat / Chair 2 x 2
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
Only has B variant (sprue mark), no A variant
(people mostly WANT the A variant)

 
Part No: 2494  Name: Glass for Window 1 x 4 x 5
* 
2494 Glass for Window 1 x 4 x 5
Parts: Window, Glass & Shutter
This is not distinguished in any way. Some windows have a sprue mark in the center
(which is terrible looking) and others do not.

 
Part No: 2493  Name: Window 1 x 4 x 5 (Undetermined Type)
* 
2493 Window 1 x 4 x 5 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Window
Only has A variant (solid studs), no B variant (hollow studs)

 
Part No: 2436  Name: Bracket 1 x 2 - 1 x 4
* 
2436 Bracket 1 x 2 - 1 x 4
Parts: Bracket
Only has B variant (rounded corners), no A variant (square corners)
(people mostly WANT the A variant)

 
Part No: 4032  Name: Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
* 
4032 Plate, Round 2 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Plate, Round
Only has B variant (X center), no A variant (regular + center)

 
Part No: 6191  Name: Slope, Curved 1 x 4 x 1 1/3
* 
6191 Slope, Curved 1 x 4 x 1 1/3
Parts: Slope, Curved
No variants listed.
Variant A = with a bar on the bottom across the center which prevents a stud
from insertin into it. (this is part 6191)
Variant B = with the bar lowered so that a stud can fit into it (this is part
10314)
THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE AND THE PARTS HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NUMBERS

 
Part No: 4088  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 2 Center Stud Top
* 
4088 Brick, Modified 1 x 4 x 2 Center Stud Top
Parts: Brick, Modified
No variants lsited.
Variant A = completely open on bottom
Variant B = with bars on the bottom
THIS IS A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE AND SHOULD HAVE ITS OWN ENTRIES

 
Part No: 3612  Name: Arm Piece Straight with 2 and 3 Fingers
* 
3612 Arm Piece Straight with 2 and 3 Fingers
Parts: Arm
Variant A = no slot for finger
Variant B = with slot for finger
THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE. DUE TO THE EARLY VARIANT, IT MAKES
REMOVING A PART ATTACHED TO THIS VERY DIFFICULT, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN DAMAGE
(see an alternate image which I myself submitted)
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Want to know where we're going with the catalog? Hard to do without a map,
isn't it?

I'm excessively pleased to announce the all-new Catalog Roadmap in the Help
Center:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2473

If you lose that link, you can always find the page in the Help Center for the
catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=21

This is an effort to increase transparency about what is happening with the BrickLink
catalog and to make it feel more like a community effort. And, of course, to
get some stuff done.

And no, before anyone asks, I don't know what's going on with the site
roadmap. I thought it was a fantastic feature and I'm quite excited to finally
have something similar for the catalog.

Feedback? Ideas? Comments?

Those decisions sound great.

Here is a list of my suggestions:

Obviously – approve of many of the variant entries which were submitted by me
and others. There should never be a standalone "A" or "B" entry without the opposing
variant listed. I was taking photos until they no longer got approved. I can
take photos of any entry which you can inform me will get approved, but I am
not going to waste my time taking photos with items sitting on hold for years
or which will be deleted, which is why I stopped submitting photos and entries
almost entirely.

There are way too many entries for dual-colored molded arms. Categorize them
instead by the forearm color rather than by the upper arm color. Such as “Yellow”
and “Light Flesh” would be the most important. This will eliminate many entries.

Allow decorated hips and legs to be added again to the catalog.

Allow parts of items which normally are not intended to be separated, but can
be – such as technic figure parts, etc. (BrickOwl is ahead of Bricklink here,
and has catalog entries for Technic Figure parts.)

Allow every unreleased set to be added. This will ensure that bricklink will
remain the best Lego database, even apart from selling. Also, allow unreleased
sets to show up in the search. Allow unreleased sets to be sold (even if that
means that only ‘used’ ones will be sold - it is possible to have the parts for
many of them). Also, allow inventories for all unreleased sets to be added.

Allow any and all unreleased parts not normally found in sets to be added to
the catalog. (This includes things such as 4x2 inverted slopes, various liftarms,
etc. and even test print legs and torsos and such.) Enough people have these,
that it would be good to have entries for them. They were officially produced
even if not released in sets. It shouldn’t matter, as long as they exist. People
should be allowed to have watches for these parts and to have a place to list
them. Many people don’t list parts if there is not an entry for them.

Allow all stickered assembly parts to have entries, no matter how complicated
– especially with older sets. Even if they can currently be listed as custom
entries, there is no way for someone to have watch lists for these and price
guide data, etc.. And most people will NOT take custom photos and list custom
entries. So most of those parts will not be listed at all, and probably many
then have the stickers ripped off and sold as regular pieces instead.

Allow entries for alternate sticker parts. For example, with older trains, there
were many extra stickers included that were not placed in the instructions, but
could be used for alternates.

Any head with any type of printing on both sides should named “dual-sided”, not
merely heads with a face on both sides. (I am not sure why the current catalog
administrators are so stubborn about changing this.) [Maybe the head category
is now big enough to divide these into one-sided and two-sided.]

Friends legs now are produced differently. The new catalog numbers are because
of this – the new numbers are NOT alternates for the same part. See Forum Post
1050503

Please put “Batman I” and “Spiderman” as subcategories of “Super Heroes”.

Allow the actual Lego element ID number for printed parts and various other things
to actually be added to the catalog as an alternate. This is extremely annoying,
especially considering that Lego uses those numbers everywhere, and nothing comes
up when searching that number at Bricklink.

Allow catalog codes from instruction booklets to be added to searchability, as
well as entries for instruction booklet variations. (I know this one probably
lands outside your jurisdiction and ability to implement.)

Allow sets and set inventories to be added for the Pick-A-Models.

Allow official sets from special events (even though they do not have factory
manufactured packaging, but do have official instructions), such as Toys-R-Us
Builds to be added as sets and inventories. (I know there is a Star Wars one,
and a Scobby Doo Mystery Machine Build, for example.) One such example in the
catalog is “ TRU01-1”. But the catalog administrators will not allow more to
be added.
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In Catalog Identification, WhiteVanMan writes:
  
  I can confirm that the White Horse does exist!

I used Brickset to find it, and it has this Element number :- 4261500

Can you verify?

Paul

Right,

Digging deeper, I can see that this particular horse seems to be allocated to
4 sets, but only 2 have images that can confirm that the horse has no eyelashes,
and the one that does is this one.

 
Set No: 4821  Name: Princess' Horse and Carriage
* 
4821-1 (Inv) Princess' Horse and Carriage
16 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2005
Sets: DUPLO: Princess Castle

The 3rd set's horse has head armour on the horse which means we can't
see the head.

Can a catalogue entry be made for this particular horse?

Images and other sites verify this.

Paul

You need to go ahead and submit the entries and photos, and then they will approve
them.
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 Posted: Sep 3, 2018 16:30
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  For certain counterparts, such as wheel assemblies, I think the best idea would
be to treat them the same ways as a minifigure.

For example, instead of most of those even being listed in the counterpart section,
they should be listed in the regular inventory. Then there should be an option
to break them down, like a minfigure. So the option "break part assemblies" could
then be selected.

I strongly disagree with this being the default view for inventories. I would
be okay with a feature which allowed you to combine parts into their assemblies,
but not with making assemblies the default position.

First, this would cause problems with our part counts matching official part
counts. As much as is possible, I'd like to match the TLG part count for
a set.

Second, I believe our inventories should show the contents of a set exactly as
it appeared new. Some parts did come already assembled and TLG counts them as
one part. For those parts the Regular Items section should show them exactly
that way. Adding other assemblies as regular items which come disassembled and
are counted as two parts confuses the issue.

I've no problem with assemblies being in inventories, as inventorying them
might benefit commerce (which was the sole reason for adding most assemblies
to the catalog). However, they should have a place of their own within the inventory.

I know there are some who will say that BrickLink exists solely for the purpose
of commerce anyway, so what does it matter? My position is that, like it or
not and in spite of its flaws, the BrickLink catalog is the largest, most complete,
most accurate LEGO reference around. Thus, I believe we have a responsibility
to serious collectors and not just to buyers and sellers.

The needs of everyone must be balanced and I am giving consideration to commercial
interests by adding these counterparts back into inventories. I do not think
it wise, however, to add assemblies into the Regular Items section when the constituent
parts came unassembled.

This is definitely not an arguement in any way.
But when trying to follow your proposal, wouldn't it then be necessary also
to remove minfigures from the regular set inventory? Since most sets come with
the minifigures unassembled.

On another issue, regarding the part count. I do think that would be minor issue,
since the programming code for the part count, could be easily revised to count
the part assemblies within the set for the final part count so as not to allow
an inconsistency.

Andrew
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  There has been inconsistency for many years regarding when part assemblies should
or should not be included as counterparts in set inventories. I believe this
has been due to not having written standards regarding this issue. Therefore,
I'd like to create some.

As part of the discussion and decision-making process I'm seeking input from
the community on how you'd like to see part assemblies handled in inventories.
I have updated this page to include my idea of one way to handle assemblies
(see the section titled Additional Information About Counterparts: Part Assemblies
as Counterparts
):

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

This rule is currently just my idea and no inventories are being changed right
now in regards to that section.

If that's the route we go, then it would mean the removal of certain parts
as counterparts from set inventories. These are some examples of parts which
would likely be removed from inventories because they don't comply with the
rule:

 
Part No: 40243c02  Name: Stairs Spiral Steps 8 with Support
* 
40243c02 (Inv) Stairs Spiral Steps 8 with Support
Parts: Stairs
 
Part No: 91049c02  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Barbell Weights with White Bar
* 
91049c02 (Inv) Minifigure, Utensil Barbell Weights with White Bar
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
 
Part No: 37702pb01c01  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Suitcase with Gold Clasps Pattern
* 
37702pb01c01 (Inv) Minifigure, Utensil Suitcase with Gold Clasps Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil, Decorated
 
Part No: 33172c01  Name: Carrot with Bright Green Top (33172 / 33183)
* 
33172c01 (Inv) Carrot with Bright Green Top (33172 / 33183)
Parts: Food & Drink

Those parts would join other existing parts in the catalog which are not connected
to any set inventories:

 
Part No: 30163c01pb01  Name: Container, Coffin with Tan Mummy Relief Colorful Pattern Lid (Sarcophagus)
* 
30163c01pb01 (Inv) Container, Coffin with Tan Mummy Relief Colorful Pattern Lid (Sarcophagus)
Parts: Container, Decorated
 
Part No: 3937c01  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with (Same Color) Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
* 
3937c01 (Inv) Hinge Brick 1 x 2 with (Same Color) Top Plate (3937 / 3938)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 3830c01  Name: Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel
* 
3830c01 Hinge Brick 1 x 4 Swivel
Parts: Hinge
Marked for Deletion
 
Part No: 3640c01  Name: Hinge Plate 2 x 4 with Articulated Joint (3640 / 3639)
* 
3640c01 (Inv) Hinge Plate 2 x 4 with Articulated Joint (3640 / 3639)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 60592c01  Name: Window 1 x 2 x 2 Flat Front with Trans-Clear Glass (60592 / 60601)
* 
60592c01 (Inv) Window 1 x 2 x 2 Flat Front with Trans-Clear Glass (60592 / 60601)
Parts: Window

The catalog entries would likely remain for any parts removed from inventories
and could still be used for buying and selling just as they are now.

The second route we could go is to include all of the existing part assemblies
in the catalog in inventories. That opens the door to many more part assemblies
being added to the catalog and to inventories. My concern with that approach
is that eventually you fill up inventories (and the catalog) with part assemblies
- especially when you consider stickered/printed assemblies, assembly color variations,
and part variant assemblies.

As an example of all the assemblies which could be added to the catalog for just
a couple of parts, see this list:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelList.asp?relID=13&catID=642

If going the route of inclusion in inventories doesn't open the door to new
assemblies, then we must live with inconsistencies in which parts are added as
assemblies and which are not. As an example of that inconsistency, why is the
first of these two assemblies included in inventories and there is not even a
catalog entry for the second assembly?

 
Part No: hngpltc01  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with Single / Double Finger (hngpltS / hngpltD)
* 
hngpltc01 (Inv) Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with Single / Double Finger (hngpltS / hngpltD)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 4275  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge
 
Part No: 4276  Name: Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
* 
4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Hinge

LEGO parts can be assembled in a myriad of ways and there are many parts which
naturally fit together. At some point a line absolutely has to be drawn on what
is included in inventories. Where do you feel the line should be drawn?



For certain counterparts, such as wheel assemblies, I think the best idea would
be to treat them the same ways as a minifigure.

For example, instead of most of those even being listed in the counterpart section,
they should be listed in the regular inventory. Then there should be an option
to break them down, like a minfigure. So the option "break part assemblies" could
then be selected.

Andrew
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In Catalog, IndoorJungle writes:
  Hey everyone,

So I ordered several Han Solo and Chewbacca Brickheadz packs from amazon and
they actually arrived in their own Lego retail packaging with a unique set number.

Thought this warranted its own BL listing.

Anyway the bundle is comprised of the following sets
41609-1 Chewbacca and 41608-1 Han Solo

It comes up as Lego set 66591
Here's a picture, as you can see this was definitely issued by Lego

- Conrad

Definitely add it to the catalog - I'm almost certain it will be added to
the catalog if you have a decent photo.
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6394  Name: Metro Park & Service Tower
* 
6394-1 (Inv) Metro Park & Service Tower
566 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 1988
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Gas Station

* Change 13 Part White {2454 Brick 1 x 2 x 5 - Blocked Open Studs / Hollow Studs to 46212 Brick 1 x 2 x 5 without Side Supports}

Comments from Submitter:
I thought I made this a long time ago. This is the only set I have that these could have come from and I received this new.
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, L1flafly writes:
  This item is main inventory as it is illustrated in the instruction manual as a needed piece. I almost missed it because its not in the main inventory section.

The set instructions in your possession come from the later version of the set
and the parts included in that set version are shown in the Alternate Items section
with an informative inventory note. The inventory is correct as it exists now
and therefore your request to change it could not be approved.


I appreciate the time taken to inform the requesters why their submissions are
rejected. This is very helpfully, especially for many new submitters -- many
of whom in the past were previously clueless as to why their requests were rejected
without any sort of explanation whatsoever (and many times probably caused them
to be discouraged to submit anything ever again).

Andrew
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, LordSkylark writes:
  Isn't there always a possibility that the set image would show an incorrect
version of a part that was not actually packed in the set itself?

Of course. However, for this set the source of the inventory was Set Box/Picture
and the inventory was completed in the spring of 2007 by Admin. Many of the
inventories from around this time by this submitter have been shown to be incorrect
in various ways.

Yes, my changes are based on guesswork, too. However, my guesswork has a bit
more evidence and I'll wager that this set inventory is now more accurate
than it was yesterday.

Sounds like a good explanation to me.
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  By my count approving the changes would make the BL count 61, but my math may
be off. The parts list on the set box shows 62 parts, so I'll need to go
over it again once the changes are approved.

Found it. There was a red 2 x 6 brick shown on the parts list which did not
appear in the inventory. I added it directly and now the part count matches
the part count printed on the label.

Isn't there always a possibility that the set image would show an incorrect
version of a part that was not actually packed in the set itself?
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In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  
  about use the 3004 part, already in use are the slope parts
 
Minifig No: cas404  Name: Fantasy Era - Maid
* 
cas404 (Inv) Fantasy Era - Maid
Minifigures: Castle: Fantasy Era
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=cas404
 
Minifig No: cas412  Name: Fantasy Era - Peasant Female
* 
cas412 (Inv) Fantasy Era - Peasant Female
Minifigures: Castle: Fantasy Era
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=cas412

and now they replace it finally by new part
 
Part No: 36036  Name: Lower Body, Skirt
* 
36036 Lower Body, Skirt
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Modified
[m=sw909]

A very happy welcome.
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 9980  Name: World People
* 
9980-1 (Inv) World People
18 Minifigures, 1992
Sets: Educational & Dacta: DUPLO: Supplemental

* Delete 1 Minifig 4555pb126 Duplo Figure, Male, Blue Legs, Blue Top, Life Jacket, Red Cap, no White in Eyes pattern
* Add 1 Minifig 4555pb267 Duplo Figure, Male, Blue Legs, Blue Top, Life Jacket, Red Cap, with White in Eyes pattern


I am curious. Are there any advantages to the administrators to having a separate
"delete" and "add" for an inventory instead of merely a "change"?

Andrew
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7597  Name: Western Train Chase
* 
7597-1 (Inv) Western Train Chase
571 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2010
Sets: Toy Story: Toy Story 3

* Change 4 Part Red {60583 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 3 with 2 Clips Vertical - Undetermined Stud Type to 60583a Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 3 with 2 Clips Vertical - Solid Stud}

Comments from Submitter:
I know for certain that this is correct. This is where I originally noticed that there were two variants and I submitted the versions in the catalog. So I can confidently confirm that both variants came in this set.
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, ParisianStore writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6411  Name: Sand Dollar Cafe
* 
6411-1 (Inv) Sand Dollar Cafe
140 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1992
Sets: Town: Paradisa

* Change 6 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}

Comments from Submitter:
I have bought the set 6411 on Ebay and the real palm trunk seems to be 2436b (empty hole, no slots inside).
All the parts are original because many of them were still clutched together and some of them are yellowed.

I'm torn on this one between my desire to get the undetermined entries out
of set inventories and the knowledge that used sets on eBay are not reliable
sources.

I did submit a catalog change request to change the title of

 
Part No: 2536  Name: Plant, Tree Palm Trunk (Undetermined Type)
  
2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Plant, Tree
Marked for Deletion

to show that it was an undetermined entry. I'll be looking through parts
today and submitting title change requests for any other parts like this which
are undetermined, but don't state that in the title.


Would it also be good to mark more of the undetermined entries for deletion?
(As long as they have both variants now listed.)
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, ParisianStore writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6411  Name: Sand Dollar Cafe
* 
6411-1 (Inv) Sand Dollar Cafe
140 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1992
Sets: Town: Paradisa

* Change 6 Part Brown {2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk to 2536b Plant, Tree Palm Trunk - Short Connector, no Axle Hole}

Comments from Submitter:
I have bought the set 6411 on Ebay and the real palm trunk seems to be 2436b (empty hole, no slots inside).
All the parts are original because many of them were still clutched together and some of them are yellowed.

I'm torn on this one between my desire to get the undetermined entries out
of set inventories and the knowledge that used sets on eBay are not reliable
sources.

I did submit a catalog change request to change the title of

 
Part No: 2536  Name: Plant, Tree Palm Trunk (Undetermined Type)
  
2536 Plant, Tree Palm Trunk (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Plant, Tree
Marked for Deletion

to show that it was an undetermined entry. I'll be looking through parts
today and submitting title change requests for any other parts like this which
are undetermined, but don't state that in the title.


Thank you. That will also make finding such entries easier.
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:

I plan to approve this request.

However, just so that there will be a record for future reference, please specify
the condition of the set when you first acquired it (new sealed, new opened/complete,
new incomplete, or used). Also, please specify if the parts for this set were
mixed with parts for any other sets.

I'm trying to move more in this direction for inventory requests so that
people in the future can have greater knowledge regarding changes made to inventories.
There were many changes made in the past which were not well documented (frequently
due to forum messages attached to change requests not being saved, although they're
permanently saved now).

Thanks.



Thanks for the information.

The earlier sets are all automatic for the jumper variant, as no variant presented
itself so those should be easy to do. Unfortunately, many of the sets would probably
end up staying undermined for awhile when the transition phase to variant B starts
and ends,, due to the fac that many were approved with the undermined variant
even when the set never was intended to have the A variant (or sets that were
marked with the A variant before the B variant was added to the catalog). I'm
not sure the reason (whether time contraint, or ignorance, or accidental, or
something else -- I know that I have made several requests in the past out
of ignorance, so it can be easy to miss some things -- which it why it is
good to have multiple people working together for accountability and verification),
but either way I hope we can all work together to perfect the inventories with
variants.

(Though, I would also strongly caution the administration to make sure that if
a new variant is approved in the catalog, that the other variant is added immediately,
to make sure that we do not run into such situations in the future.)

Thank you for all of your hard work and your prompt responses in the request
changes.

Andrew
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Set No: 7191  Name: X-wing Fighter - UCS
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7191-1 (Inv) X-wing Fighter - UCS
1300 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2000
Sets: Star Wars: Ultimate Collector Series: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

* Change 2 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 3 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 5958  Name: Mummy's Tomb
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5958-1 (Inv) Mummy's Tomb
240 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Adventurers: Desert

* Change 5 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6088  Name: Robber's Retreat
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6088-1 (Inv) Robber's Retreat
261 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Ninja

* Change 1 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 3 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6110  Name: Solo Sub
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6110-1 (Inv) Solo Sub
18 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Aquazone: Hydronauts

* Change 1 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 2964  Name: Space Spider
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2964-1 (Inv) Space Spider
41 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Space: Insectoids

* Change 1 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 9958  Name: Special Elements for Control Lab Building Set (Special Elements For 979701)
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9958-1 (Inv) Special Elements for Control Lab Building Set (Special Elements For 979701)
97 Parts, 1998
Sets: Educational & Dacta: Service Packs: Special Element Sets

* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 2586  Name: King & Throne (Chess King)
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2586-1 (Inv) King & Throne (Chess King)
21 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Castle

* Change 1 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 2537  Name: Extreme Team Raft
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2537-1 (Inv) Extreme Team Raft
15 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1 Gear, 1998
Sets: Town: Extreme Team

* Change 1 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 5988  Name: Pharaoh's Forbidden Ruins
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5988-1 (Inv) Pharaoh's Forbidden Ruins
668 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Adventurers: Desert

* Change 4 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6589  Name: Radical Racer {with Rocky Ridge Playscape}
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6589-1 (Inv) Radical Racer {with Rocky Ridge Playscape}
77 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Town: Extreme Team

* Change 1 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 2531  Name: Rescue Helicopter and Jeep
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2531-1 (Inv) Rescue Helicopter and Jeep
90 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Recreation

* Change 2 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6160  Name: Sea Scorpion
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6160-1 (Inv) Sea Scorpion
281 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Aquazone: Stingrays

* Change 2 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 2538  Name: Fright Knights Fire Cart
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2538-1 (Inv) Fright Knights Fire Cart
16 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1 Gear, 1998
Sets: Castle: Fright Knights

* Change 1 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6180  Name: Hydro Search Sub
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6180-1 (Inv) Hydro Search Sub
271 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Aquazone: Hydronauts

* Change 4 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6415  Name: Res-Q Jet-Ski
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6415-1 (Inv) Res-Q Jet-Ski
12 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Town: Res-Q

* Change 1 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6428  Name: Wave Saver polybag
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6428-1 (Inv) Wave Saver polybag
12 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Town: Res-Q

* Change 1 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6977  Name: Arachnoid Star Base
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6977-1 (Inv) Arachnoid Star Base
419 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Space: Insectoids

* Change 2 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6817  Name: Beta Buzzer
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6817-1 (Inv) Beta Buzzer
28 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Space: Insectoids

* Change 1 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6905  Name: Bi-Wing Blaster
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6905-1 (Inv) Bi-Wing Blaster
105 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Space: Insectoids

* Change 1 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6969  Name: Celestial Stinger
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6969-1 (Inv) Celestial Stinger
243 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Space: Insectoids

* Change 2 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6199  Name: Hydro Crystalization Station
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6199-1 (Inv) Hydro Crystalization Station
449 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Aquazone: Hydronauts

* Change 9 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 9725-1
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Set No: 9725  Name: ROBOLAB Amusement Park Set {1998 Version}
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9725-1 (Inv) ROBOLAB Amusement Park Set {1998 Version}
284 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 2 Books, 4 Gear, 1998
Sets: Educational & Dacta: MINDSTORMS: RCX

* Change 4 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6907  Name: Sonic Stinger
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6907-1 (Inv) Sonic Stinger
91 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Space: Insectoids

* Change 2 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
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Set No: 6909  Name: Sonic Stinger with Promotional Mask
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6909-1 (Inv) Sonic Stinger with Promotional Mask
91 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1 Gear, 1998
Sets: Space: Insectoids

* Change 2 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

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