Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Teup  | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:17 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
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About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
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Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
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I was assuming submitting an OSS automatically means the VAT will be the percentage
of the buyer's country. They're asking sellers to do that, so that must
mean that that is what Bricklink is supporting. But yes, it would be good to
hear some more info on this. For example if it can be switched on and off by
the seller, or if Bricklink is forcing sellers. (Although you can still do what
you want in your own administration and ignore what Bricklink does, if you're
not fussy about earning 1-2% more or less)
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| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:13 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | […]
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
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 There’s a problem with your dates. It should be 2020, no?
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yes you are right 
The UK-EU period of the last 12 months.
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| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:05 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | An email was sent out a few hours ago concerning the new requirements for EU
sellers regarding VAT registration. I am reposting the email here for those who
may have missed it.
Email Preview: Action may be required if you have reached the new EU VAT distance
sales of goods threshold in the preceding 12 months EU VAT Registration Guidelines
Dear BrickLink member,
Following the implementation of the new EU VAT e-commerce rules for online marketplaces,
BrickLink is asking each seller who has reached, or expects to reach, the new
EUR 10 000 distance sales of goods threshold for the preceding 12 months to ensure
they are compliant with their EU VAT registration obligations and provide proof
of registration.
Changes at a glance:
• The previous thresholds for distance sales of goods to buyers in other EU Member
States (EUR 35 000 or 100 000, depending on the Member State) has been abolished
and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000.
• Below this threshold, you can continue to apply the domestic rules for VAT
on your cross-border sales. If your sales are above this threshold, you are liable
for VAT in the Member State where your buyers are located. Alternatively, you
can register for the One Stop Shop (OSS) – where you can register for VAT in
one Member State and pay the VAT due in other Member States.
• For more information, please see the European Commission article on this topic
here: https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/online-sellers_en
What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
This material has been prepared for informational purposes only, and is not intended
to provide, and should not be relied on for advice. Please speak with a tax professional
if you have any questions about your tax obligations. BrickLink does not assume
any responsibility in terms of determining or notifying sellers about their VAT
registration obligations.
Thank You,
The BrickLink Team
|
About 7 years ago I entered the suggestions to be able to use 0% VAT for Margin
Goods.
Bricklink wasn’t up to it. So after a while, I disabled VAT.
About a year ago Bricklink started to add VAT to the Bricklink Fee, unless you
were a VAT-registered store, so I enabled VAT again and I lost 21% VAT on my
Margin Purchases since.
Now, July 2021, Bricklink tells us we have to register for OSS, if our EU sales
(excluding domestic sales) reached 10.000 euro in the preceding 12 months.
I sold lot’s of margin goods ánd private goods from my collection on Bricklink
in the last 12 months. Most Vintage Items went to other EU-countries. I am allowed
to sell my private collection, without paying VAT! The € 10.000 threshold does
NOT include sales of a private collection of used Goods.
I also sold many Margin Goods , which are also excluded from this treshold.
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
If Bricklink was not able to make a difference between Margin Goods en VAT Goods,
how on earth can they determine that I reached the € 10.000 Threshold, that I
am not meeting my VAT obligations ánd suspend me for selling on Bricklink????
Besides that, the € 10.000 threshold for 2021 started July 1th 2021 and ends
Decembre 2021.
So Bricklink, you can only determine that a seller reached the € 10.000, if you
are able to reduce EU sales with Margin Goods and Private Collection Goods.
As soon as my EU-sales, excluding domestic sale, minus Private Goods, minus Margin
Goods exceed the € 10.000 (starting July 1th), I have to register for the OSS
(or in each individual EU Member State), NOT sooner. I am the only one who knows
if / when this happens. I am also the only one who can decide to remove the
EU from my shippinglist.
If you are going to suspend my store anyway, based on my TOTAL EU sales
in the past 12 months, let me know within 1 day, so I have 29 days to prepare
for another platform or retirement.
And please fix the problem with orders from UK buyers in non-UK stores.
There’s no link to dowload the VAT-Invoice anymore, nor do we receive the VAT
Invoice by Email.
I planned a quiet day today!
https://www.bricklink.com/browse.asp
|
Addition:
When will Bricklink be ready for the different VAT % per EU-country.
DE sales have to include 19% VAT, BE & NL 21% VAT, etc.
VAT has to be added to the NET price. And it has to be optional, for this is
a seller's choice.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 08:02 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | […]
I also sold VAT Items to the UK from 01-07-2021 to 31-12-2021 which were EU sales
for that period.
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There’s a problem with your dates. It should be 2020, no?
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Jul 14, 2021 07:58 | | Subject: | Re: EU VAT Registration Guidelines | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, TakeAbricK writes:
| | In Administrative, rankster writes:
| | In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | What this means for you:
• If your sales in the preceding 12 months are above the new EUR 10 000 distance
sales of goods threshold, you will need to register for the OSS or in each individual
EU Member State where you sell on BrickLink.
|
This is quite the opposite of what my tax professional said. I was told that
I have nothing to do with my preceding 12 months sales (at least here in Austria,
it could vary by country). All I need to monitor is my sales from July 1st, 2021
and if it's not exceeding the EUR 10 000 treshold this year I'm OK to
register not sooner than 2022.
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Same here (Netherlands). Imo same in all EU countries, for it is a EU Guideline.
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• If BrickLink determines or receives notification that you are not meeting your
VAT obligations within 30 days after receiving this notice, this will result
in the suspension of your selling abilities on BrickLink.
• Once registered for VAT, you will need to enter a valid VAT and/or OSS registration
number in your Store Settings page within the Management tab and enable VAT in
your settings.
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What if I already have a valid VAT-ID but I'm in VAT-exempt status until
the end of this year for sure? Should I add my VAT-ID but not enabling VAT in
my settings?
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+1
I am not selling over the threshold this year, and I will not use local VAT rates
this year, no matter if you suspend me or not. I simply am not able to use the
new scheme at this point, because my software needs to be rewritten and I cannot
do that now. I am doing that in december.
Last year's sales do not matter under the Dutch legislation. I'm acting
100% in accordance with the new laws.
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