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 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 12:02
 Subject: Re: New Packing Dimensions Feature
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Cob (3563)

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In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, calsbricks writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, tec writes:
  My friend here likes this post

That's a beauty! I definitely need one of those.


Jen

Or you might want one of these

Nope, I'm old-school analog all the way! Here's my scale....lol.

Jen

I'll see you ancient balance scale, and raise you a couple of USPS built
to last 100 years
heavy duty scales. Both are in daily use in the Cosmic
Toys shipping department …

I'm jealous, that is an awesome scale.
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 11:57
 Subject: Re: New Packing Dimensions Feature
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  
Instant Checkout will work no matter what order the data is in, but when stud
and metric dimensions are listed together, it makes sense that the fields line
up.

The Z dimension should always mean height / thickness according to the rules
for stud dimensions.

Thanks for the quick reply!

How do dimension limits work on instant checkout? I haven't been able to
find any documentation. There is no way for me to test it, so I simply didn't
use it.

There is a help page for "Store Shipping Methods" however it seems to be out
of date. I think it shows the shipping settings screens from before IC was implemented.

There is a help page under "Instant Checkout" "Advanced Options" that shows an
example of package restictions:

Orders can't be shipped with this method when order package exceeds any of
these conditions or when an item in the order has been flagged with manual packaging
type by the seller.
Max dimension
15 in (w) x 12 in (h) x 0.75 in (d)

It states that it is flagged if "order package" is too big. I don't know
what the size of the order package is, or how it is calculated. Does that mean
if any of the individual elements is too big?

Are we supposed to enter the limits in inches? Even though the packaging dimensions
are in cm?

Would a 1x1x5 Brick be allowed under this example?
It has dimensions 0.8 x 0.8 x 4.8 cm.
4.8 cm 0.75 in so it seems to be it would not be allowed, unless the system
is doing something behind the scenes to re-organize the dimensions and can see
that
4.8 cm
0.8 cm
0.8 cm
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 11:30
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 6837-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6837  Name: Cosmic Creeper
* 
6837-1 (Inv) Cosmic Creeper
53 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1998
Sets: Space: Insectoids

* Change 1 Part Black {6048 Arm Piece with Pin, 2 Fingers to 6048b Arm Piece with Pin, 2 Fingers and Finger Grooves}

Comments from Submitter:
From my personal collection. The set was bought new and never mixed with other sets.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 11:27
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw0100
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  In Inventories Requests, dcarmine writes:

  Then why is the figure pic in DK OG? The set pic and box image also have it
as DK OG?

There are many official set images and box images that show things that were
never included in the sets, but our guideline is to *not* alter official set
images or box images. However, we can change the figure image. There just happens
to be another image attached to that figure that shows the correct hair, so we
will just remove the image with dark orange hair. The image for the figure with
cape is already correct, also.

This minifig lives on my desk. Is a new picture of him wanted?
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 11:27
 Subject: Re: New Packing Dimensions Feature
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In Catalog, Brick.Door writes:
  For parts is the z dimension the height? Because I looked at 1x1x5 brick and
the height is .8 cm. The actual height was entered as the y dimension.

Or is the z dimension the smallest? So that it can be used to determine whether
the item will fit in a thin envelope. In that case there are many entries that
need to be changed.

Before all the work of populating part dimensions i think we need to figure out
how it is going to be used.

Many of the currently entered Packing Dimensions were mass imported from LDraw
data when Instant Checkout was implemented in 2017. These measurements have no
user credit - that is how you can tell where they came from.

Things were done that way to get the system up and running quickly, but at this
point we need to refine the data. I am outlining the submission rules on the
Help page, but essentially what they say is this - for parts, use the stud dimensions
to determine the order of the fields. Where there are no stud dimensions, add
dimensions in whichever order you wish.

So please submit a correction to that data. It is very likely there is more wrong
than just the order of the fields.

Instant Checkout will work no matter what order the data is in, but when stud
and metric dimensions are listed together, it makes sense that the fields line
up.

The Z dimension should always mean height / thickness according to the rules
for stud dimensions.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 11:16
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Minifig sw0100
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In Inventories Requests, dcarmine writes:

  Then why is the figure pic in DK OG? The set pic and box image also have it
as DK OG?

There are many official set images and box images that show things that were
never included in the sets, but our guideline is to *not* alter official set
images or box images. However, we can change the figure image. There just happens
to be another image attached to that figure that shows the correct hair, so we
will just remove the image with dark orange hair. The image for the figure with
cape is already correct, also.
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 11:04
 Subject: Re: New Packing Dimensions Feature
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For parts is the z dimension the height? Because I looked at 1x1x5 brick and
the height is .8 cm. The actual height was entered as the y dimension.

Or is the z dimension the smallest? So that it can be used to determine whether
the item will fit in a thin envelope. In that case there are many entries that
need to be changed.

Before all the work of populating part dimensions i think we need to figure out
how it is going to be used.
 Author: brickerking View Messages Posted By brickerking
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 11:00
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Personally, I would encourage you to spend 100% of your measurement submissions on actual dimensions at this point, and not worry about the studs.

Yay, this makes sense! You can always perform a calculation on the server side
to display stud dimensions. Entering a real unit of measurement on the user/data
entry side is a great improvement!
 Author: tec View Messages Posted By tec
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 10:56
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 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Apr 7, 2021 10:48
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In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:

  Just to note, you have snipped the image starting with the 2x4 brick but not
included its dimensions. I got confused with the first set of dimensions x, y
and z until I realised they are for the slope and not the brick.

Sorry about that. Here is another screenshot:

An observation, and not a criticism, the Z dimension (on the brick and the slope)
correctly includes the height of the stud on top, and because of that is not
directly convertible into brick heights (when measured in brick units). This
is because assembled bricks nest the stud within the bottom of the above brick.
And, as we all know, no one ever ships bricks assembled (but see below).

Which also, causes the rather oblique situation of hips/legs (which have studs
on top) and torsos, to not add up correctly in the Z direction, because of being
shipped individually.

Somewhere in all this (part II or part III ?) we need to address the issue I
pointed out a couple of weeks back about part-assemblies (e.g. wheels and tires)
and how they are measured for X+Y+Z and if assembling them is required.

Nita Rae

There is no relationship or dependency between the two types of dimensions
- stud and metric. I know in the past that stud dimensions were used to give
an estimate of actual metric size, but we don't want to do that now.

I will continue adding examples of how we want you to measure things for the
catalog. It's going to be a long Help page!

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