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 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Mar 16, 2021 13:26
 Subject: Re: Two Weeks?!
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Teup (6606)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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Store: BLOKJESKONING
Aah, that makes some sense, thanks for sharing. And really interesting to read
that in a way, you kind of ended up with a hybrid remarks-category system.

I can see at least one tedious loose end - if the part no longer fits in that
location and the remarks need to be changed.. That's another thing that seems
annoying to me: The lots are stored individually (not all colours and several
variations of the category in the same drawer), therefore, the bins/drawers are
tiny. So they need to be moved around if they grow and shrink, so the remarks
sometimes need to change.. That's what I like about category based sorting,
I can just throw everything in the bins and part out the set and not worry about
any administration besides the prices.

In Catalog, RecycledBrick writes:
  
  I guess the main thing I never really understood is... what do you do first?
Do you first put things in places, then go and enter them in the remark fields
(but then how do you know what items should have consolidated)

Or do you first write down which bins you're going to put everything in and
then put it there (but then how do you know which ones are free and that it will
fit)

And then some lots may already have a location but it became too small and it
needs to be changed... and the part-out screen only shows that you already have
an item in your inventory, it doesn't show directly what the remark is...

When I part out a set I go through the process. I don't enter any locations
at this time and let the existing items consolidate. The last screen before
the pieces are finally added I save as a PDF as pictured. It shows where the
locations are for the consolidated lots. I save it because I don't want
to put all the pieces away right at this moment or have to look them up later.
Everything that is a new lot which doesn't have a location goes to Stockroom
A. That way I can easily go and add locations to the new lots. I use no 3rd
party software.

I used to do random locating of pieces using just locations in the remarks.
it would take awhile to find a piece if something went wrong. I have put more
pieces into groups. At least I can find it quicker if the location is wrong
or missing. I have arranged things in BL categories but not in any order. With
the moving of items I am not going to move everything around right away and in
most cases don't need to. A lot of the Tile Modified category I have alway
kept with Plate Modified so I don't always follow the BL catalog.

I have been told privately my way of parting out is stupid. It allows me to
quickly part out a set whether 1 or a 100 very fast and then I can put those
pieces away at my leisure. I don't want to enter the new locations and put
all the pieces away during the part out process. What works for me may not work
for others
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Mar 16, 2021 13:17
 Subject: Re: Two Weeks?!
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Teup (6606)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:

  I know you can't look into the future, but what about you? Do you feel these
major updates (where catagories are redefined) are going to be a regular thing,
or is this a phase that's soon over? I can't help but feel like we're
soon gonna have the catagories we want to have and these large projects aren't
necessary anymore, but maybe I'm wrong...

Now that we have all of the definitions in place for part categories (even though
some are still being tweaked), I don't foresee many of these large changes
occurring in the future. In fact, I foresee 2-3 more rounds at the most, and
then we will be at a place where they are no longer necessary, as you said. At
that time, anything needing to be changed would probably be back to a few here
and there like before. I know it will be rough for a little while longer, but
I think you can do it.

Thanks! Yeah, that's pretty much how I imagined it now. When I come back
to Bricklink selling (probably sometime next year), I'll see how the project
fares

  
P.S. I wish I lived near you. I would go and help you rearrange your store just
for fun.

Appreciate the thought Here's a picture of the mainly affected room and
a schematic of it. The lowest unit on the righthand side in the schematic contains
wedges. Those are large 2-column-wide drawers. Moving the wedges would imply
moving the units themselves, because nothing near it fits well in large drawers.
So that would mean taking breaking that entire wall of drawers apart, etc etc..
And I am a perfectionist, I want all drawers that are used most often to be
at the most comfortable row. Soooo yeah.... I will skip this update and wait
it out, then sometime in the future plan some days to deisgn a new layout
 


 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Mar 16, 2021 13:03
 Subject: Re: Two Weeks?!
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Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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Store: BLOKJESKONING
In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  This is not a big deal for me personally as I am not currently selling here,
so I can plan it when I want.. but... really?!

The catalog changes are scheduled for April 1. That's only 2 weeks away.
I noticed that this is a DRAMATIC catalog update that will throw the entire store
upside down. Definitely won't be able to take my entire 1.2 million parts
store apart and piece it back together just casually within these next two weeks
between sorting orders. Especially moving all the wedges will be be fun puzzle.

Not gonna object against any changes, they seem alright to me. Except that there's
one change clearly missing from that list: Moving the 2x2 corner brick to Brick,
Modified.. (since plate and tile are there)

I hope this really was THE update everyone was waiting for, and now we're
satisfied..

The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.

Oh, whoa, thanks Russell, that's an important addition here. That's not
the way I read it at all, but now I see.

Does this mean the other proposed changes are going to trickle through at random
moments later on, or will they be implemented in one go with the next edition
in October?

No, it means a decision on those items has not been made yet. If something is
rejected, it doesn't mean it can't happen at another time, or that it
will happen at another time. But the bigger question is more about how much of
this moving around the community can accept in a given period of time.

Well, I don't know how it is for other users, but looking at my situation
it definitely is about how often and not how much.
  
Regular updates at specific times seems to be the path forward with these types
of changes. That way, there is a reference point people can look back on and
make adjustments.

OK, so if I understand correctly, the changes that are still in proposed status
will be listed for a future update (provided they are accepted), with a future
announcement like this one. So, this list of six is exactly what is going to
change 1 April - nothing more. In that case, makes sense.

I mean, it would be awkward to make a clear annoucement for 6 parts with a clear
date, only to suddenly implement moving all wedges to brick/plate/slope the week
after unannounced

No, there are still 2 weeks to approve the other proposals for the April 1 deadline.
All of them might be approved, but it isn't certain. The only certain thing
at this point are the six listed in the newsletter, because we didn't want
the newsletter highlighting things that weren't going to change.

Uh... wow That's a mess, Russell. If wedge(plate) moves, that can be hundreds
of thousands of parts for some sellers. That would just change overnight without
a month - and not even 2 weeks headsup? I thought we really agreed here that
we needed time. You guys better approve or deny them ASAP so that category based
stores can plan their changes.

Well, I won't argue, go ahead, do what you do. I am glad I am closed.. I
will think about reopening sometime next year maybe, once this whole phase is
over and the dust has settled!
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 16, 2021 13:00
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:

  The list you see is of the PROPOSED changes, not SCHEDULED changes. There are
only six items on the list so far that can officially be considered approved
by admin, and those are the six examples listed in the Catalog Newsletter which
went out yesterday.

The catalog newsletter does not read like that at all. Now you have me confused.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Mar 16, 2021 12:58
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In Catalog, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  Just curious, I wonder how this works for those that sell on multiple platforms
and don't use remarks as stock locators but rely on a catalog sequence to
find parts on orders.


Even for tiny stores, this is a clear indication as to why storage should never
be based on the (current) catalogue.

I think that leaves remarks sorting as the only alternative, and it has many
drawbacks. I would certainly never work with a remark based store. Even if it'd
be only because there are bugs with the field and populating it probably requires
Brickstock, which means no accurate priceguide which matches Bricklink. It's
really not an option for me.

In 15+ years never had a single problem with the remarks field.

Robert

There was. There was a serious bug where each time you did a part out and the
item was already in your inventory, the remarks would be voided. THEN how would
you find the part.. the thought of having my entire inventory sorted by it
scares me a bit. I've used the remarks field for locating minifig parts within
the minifig category, but that bug made it a disaster. The bug was fixed and
then just reappeared again - which is often the case when Bricklink "fixes" something.
I believe this is fixed now so sure, it's reasonable to use it. But I just
don't dare - I'm just a coward I guess.. so you see, you can never be
100% safe.

Besides, my remarks field are used for my software to execute my pricing policy
and keep stats (If those get deleted, it's not a big deal)

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