Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Tiggy2  | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2021 12:09 | | Subject: | Minifigures | | Viewed: | 97 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi
Just wondering why a Minifigure I listed was deleted.
This is what it is...Dragon Knights - Knight 1, Light Gray Legs with Black Hips,
Black Chin-Guard, Quiver
This is my Comments: Excellent Condition, no splits or dents. Missing Quiver/Arrows.
Is it because I don’t have the Quiver? Can I list Minifigures if missing parts?
Thank you
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| Author: | 1974 | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2021 10:05 | | Subject: | Set 816-1 | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| The release year is listed as 1987. However, the instruction is copyrighted in
1986 and it also appears in the large 1986 catalogue 
Cheers,
Ole
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| Author: | joesecc | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2021 07:35 | | Subject: | part 3245cpb012 catalog information. | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi,
I need some clarification for the part.
The inventory for this set indicates that it exists with the alternate part
So, should there be a catalog entry for this part with the police sticker on
it?
If so how would it be classified? Alternate part/counterpart?
Regards,
Joe
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 19:23 | | Subject: | Re: New Lego Drowned Minifigure | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | The new parts will not be accepted into the catalog without images.
Cheers,
Randy
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The torso piece might.
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That would, yes. But that is an exception and will only be added once the full
torso assembly is added.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 19:18 | | Subject: | Re: New Lego Drowned Minifigure | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | The new parts will not be accepted into the catalog without images.
Cheers,
Randy
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The torso piece might.
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 19:13 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
| | Perhaps the need is there for headgear as well. However I disagree with by theme. I found
again and again that the second you think something is set by LEGO to be used
in one set it will appear in another. Maybe not often with Star Wars but still.
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Yes but my thinking was more to do with the theme the part is more commonly associated
with or originates from therefore for instance
I would category this as say Ninja/Ninjago headgear and ignore the fact its used
by Star Wars Dengar
| | My opinion is to categorize with the real world (helmets, hoods) and than the
theme will work itself out. Thanks for the response.
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Yes I agree though for it to work I think it would have to have a crossover of
parts some categoried by theme and others by the style so you'd have stuff
like Stormtooper helmets under star wars headgear and stuff like Batman cowls
under Super heroes headgear but then other items like all these:-
Not categoried by their theme (Castle, Lord of the Rings, Vikings etc..) but
categoried together as Warrior/Knight type helmets
I mean I would'nt really want to see a single helmets category that consists
of everything from Knight helmets to construction worker helmets to Ironman helemts
if you see my point
That said I would'nt have a problem with a hats category that contained a
little more variation from cowboy hats to basball caps to top hats though a separate
Trade/Occupation category may also be useful for stuff like chef, butcher hats,
construction worker helmets, police hats or even Racing driver helmets?
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 18:32 | | Subject: | Re: New Lego Drowned Minifigure | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| The new parts will not be accepted into the catalog without images.
Cheers,
Randy
In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Just realized that, however, the pieces it Is made up of don't exist in the
catalog yet. I will try and add them, but there will be no pictures. If you have
the minifig, I would be very grateful if you would consider uploading some photos
In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, calebfishn writes:
| | In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Reaching out to those that have the new drowned Minifigure from Lego Minecraft.
Please contact me, I would like to discuss weights, pictures, dimensions, etc.
Regards,
Theo - The_RealRedHex
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I have a couple. But I have no idea how to weigh or measure the dimensions of
these things. So probably not much help.
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I imagine the dimensions and weight are going to be very similar to the other
Minecraft zombies, given the parts, are the same aside from the print.
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| Author: | Hexy | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 16:31 | | Subject: | Re: New Lego Drowned Minifigure | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Just realized that, however, the pieces it Is made up of don't exist in the
catalog yet. I will try and add them, but there will be no pictures. If you have
the minifig, I would be very grateful if you would consider uploading some photos
In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, calebfishn writes:
| | In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Reaching out to those that have the new drowned Minifigure from Lego Minecraft.
Please contact me, I would like to discuss weights, pictures, dimensions, etc.
Regards,
Theo - The_RealRedHex
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I have a couple. But I have no idea how to weigh or measure the dimensions of
these things. So probably not much help.
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I imagine the dimensions and weight are going to be very similar to the other
Minecraft zombies, given the parts, are the same aside from the print.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 15:28 | | Subject: | Re: New Lego Drowned Minifigure | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, calebfishn writes:
| | In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Reaching out to those that have the new drowned Minifigure from Lego Minecraft.
Please contact me, I would like to discuss weights, pictures, dimensions, etc.
Regards,
Theo - The_RealRedHex
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I have a couple. But I have no idea how to weigh or measure the dimnensions of
these things. So probably not much help.
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I imagine the dimensions and weight are going to be very similar to the other
Minecraft zombies, given the parts are the same aside from the print.
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| Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 14:59 | | Subject: | Re: New Lego Drowned Minifigure | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Reaching out to those that have the new drowned Minifigure from Lego Minecraft.
Please contact me, I would like to discuss weights, pictures, dimensions, etc.
Regards,
Theo - The_RealRedHex
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I have a couple. But I have no idea how to weigh or measure the dimnensions of
these things. So probably not much help.
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| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Why should I... | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Bendix writes:
| | ...upload an item for the catalog - when it is deleted due to unknown reasons?
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"Why?" So that as a seller you can list and sell the item, usually at a premium
as being among the first to offer the item.
But I get it... and you're right, a reason should be given, even if only
one-worded.
I'm sure it was just an oversight.
Really cool polybag build, btw!
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 12:35 | | Subject: | Re: New Lego Drowned Minifigure | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Just buy one. 
In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Reaching out to those that have the new drowned Minifigure from Lego Minecraft.
Please contact me, I would like to discuss weights, pictures, dimensions, etc.
Regards,
Theo - The_RealRedHex
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| Author: | crepundi | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | Anyway, these parts are all comprised mostly of bars and should stay put.
Thanks!
Jen
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Here I would like to suggest to move
* | | 2566 Bar 1.2L with Top Stud and 4 Bar Arms Up (Palm Tree Top)
Parts: Bar |
to bar as well.
Holding the leafs of a palm tree is only one of its many funktions.
Gisela
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:23 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
| | I propose sub categories to thin out the main categories.
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This is a good idea and we'd like to move toward it. The problem is that
the main categories list already numbers in the hundreds. We'd prefer to
have submenus before we do a bunch of additional splitting.
Please see this message for more information:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1168807
If you'd like to vote on it, see this message:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1169569
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| Author: | leopard37 | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:18 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | |
I have also felt that more categories would be beneficial not just for weapons
but other minifigure categories too such as headgear. For instance if your searching
a store to see what Knight/castle style helmets the store has I'm sure it
would be better to be able to do this without having to scroll through lots of
star wars helmets or ninjago wraps etc...
However the problem with categorising by theme is that there are too many crossover
parts like this hood that can be found in almost all the main themes
That said even just separating all the headgear that is unique to a specific
theme would be a good starting point meaning 'Star Wars Headgear' would
include anything from clone trooper helmets to Rebel Pilot helmets to Vader +
Boba Fett helmets along with caps with imperial insigma etc..
Whilst hoods might be used on Jedi and Sith they are quite generic and would
have to remain under the standard generic headgear category.
When it comes to weapons I would again be inclined to try and organise things
by theme/era i.e primative style weapons such as bows and axes separated from
space type weapons etc... but I think this would also present some problems as
there will always be items that are difficult to find a suitable home for likewise
even when going by your own category suggestions where they are sorted by weapon
type what do you then do with something like a flail? personally I think I would
like to see these located in the same palce as things like swords, axes, bows
etc...
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My thought that whatever did not fit distinctly into the sub category would remain
in the general main category. Therefore the flail would remain there. Perhaps
the need is there for headgear as well. However I disagree with by theme. I found
again and again that the second you think something is set by LEGO to be used
in one set it will appear in another. Maybe not often with Star Wars but still.
My opinion is to categorize with the real world (helmets, hoods) and than the
theme will work itself out. Thanks for the response.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:18 | | Subject: | Re: Why should I... | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | We apologize for this error on our part. The deletion was due to circumstances
beyond our control.
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Those are contradictory statements, but hopefully you get the general drift.
We didn't intentionally remove your pending submission, but we regret that
it happened nonetheless.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Why should I... | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Bendix writes:
| | ...upload an item for the catalog - when it is deleted due to unknown reasons?
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We apologize for this error on our part. The deletion was due to circumstances
beyond our control. We typically try to notify submitters when a submission
cannot be approved.
You're welcome to resubmit this item with the image.
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:06 | | Subject: | Re: Why should I... | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Bendix writes:
| | In Catalog, StarBrick writes:
| | In Catalog, Bendix writes:
| | ...upload an item for the catalog - when it is deleted due to unknown reasons?
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Because it's not yet released?
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Since two weeks.
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Maybe not yet in the USA, where most of the employees work I guess?
I dunno, BL moves in mysterious ways.....
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 11:01 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
I really like that you're interested in discussing the category guidelines,
but I'm a little confused on the changes you'd like to see. It would
be helpful for me if you'd post the current guidelines and then your revised
guidelines so I can understand the differences between them.
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| Author: | Bendix | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 10:48 | | Subject: | Re: Why should I... | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StarBrick writes:
| | In Catalog, Bendix writes:
| | ...upload an item for the catalog - when it is deleted due to unknown reasons?
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Because it's not yet released?
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Since two weeks.
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| Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 10:29 | | Subject: | Re: Why should I... | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Bendix writes:
| | ...upload an item for the catalog - when it is deleted due to unknown reasons?
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Because it's not yet released?
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| Author: | Bendix | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 10:16 | | Subject: | Why should I... | | Viewed: | 240 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| | ...upload an item for the catalog - when it is deleted due to unknown reasons? |
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| Author: | crepundi | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 07:19 | | Subject: | part 3010p04 entry remark | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hello, I don't know if this is important, but there are two different versions
of this part:
one with surface print and one with embossed print (at least in white). Maybe
this could be noted in the catalog entry.
Gisela
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 06:38 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | Why is
[27928]
moved to plate, modified
and
[2401]
moved to plate, wedge?
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Please see the definitions of those categories on this recently-updated page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1568
| | I think the wedge base should be the defining characteristic.
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As always, if you or any other member want to offer suggestions for redefining
categories that are an improvement you're welcome to do so.
| | There are other parts in the wedge, plate category that have modifications apart
from the wedge.
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Right, and the list is not complete yet. It won't be complete until March
1st (and subject to review/approval during March).
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Plate, modified:
1. No parts with a base thicker than a standard plate.
2. No parts when any side of the base part is curved.
3. No parts when any corner of the base part is rounded.
Plate, Wedge:
1. No parts with a base thicker than a standard plate.
2. At least one side of base part must be fully or partially tapered.
3. No parts with curved sides.
4. No parts with attachments.
Propose:
1. For parts defined as Plate, Modified with at least one side of the base must
be fully or partially tapered.
That way all wedge plates are in the same place, also this does not enlarge the
plate, modified category (168) vs the wedge, plate (55).
In the definitions of subcategories (curved, round, wedge, modified), wouldn't
be better to inherit the caracteristics of the parent? "For parts defined as
Plate/Brick/Slope" ?
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| Author: | Hexy | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2021 04:47 | | Subject: | New Lego Drowned Minifigure | | Viewed: | 143 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Reaching out to those that have the new drowned Minifigure from Lego Minecraft.
Please contact me, I would like to discuss weights, pictures, dimensions, etc.
Regards,
Theo - The_RealRedHex
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 19:38 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Alright, this post is more to create discussion, not necessarily must be implemented.
As a seller I find the Minifigure, Utensil and Minifigure, Weapon categories.
I propose sub categories to thin out the main categories. A large portion of
current listings can remain in the main category (like an other or general category
- items that do not meet the definition of the sub category).
Minifigure, Utensil Tool
-anything with tool in the title
-axes
Minifigure, Utensil Kitchenware (could use a better name - best I could come
up with)
-anything you would find in your kitchen, pots, glasses, teapots, etc.
I also believe handlebars, and chairs should move to vehicle.
Minifigure, Weapons, Bladed
-swords, knifes, you know blades...
Minifigure, Weapons, Guns (Projectile is another potential name)
-projectile weapons, bows could also go in here.
Would love to hear what others think of the idea.
Tyson.
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I have also felt that more categories would be beneficial not just for weapons
but other minifigure categories too such as headgear. For instance if your searching
a store to see what Knight/castle style helmets the store has I'm sure it
would be better to be able to do this without having to scroll through lots of
star wars helmets or ninjago wraps etc...
However the problem with categorising by theme is that there are too many crossover
parts like this hood that can be found in almost all the main themes
That said even just separating all the headgear that is unique to a specific
theme would be a good starting point meaning 'Star Wars Headgear' would
include anything from clone trooper helmets to Rebel Pilot helmets to Vader +
Boba Fett helmets along with caps with imperial insigma etc..
Whilst hoods might be used on Jedi and Sith they are quite generic and would
have to remain under the standard generic headgear category.
When it comes to weapons I would again be inclined to try and organise things
by theme/era i.e primative style weapons such as bows and axes separated from
space type weapons etc... but I think this would also present some problems as
there will always be items that are difficult to find a suitable home for likewise
even when going by your own category suggestions where they are sorted by weapon
type what do you then do with something like a flail? personally I think I would
like to see these located in the same palce as things like swords, axes, bows
etc...
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 15:14 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | My solution would be that it is not a figure, but the guidelines say it is for
anyone that wants to change it.
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I should have been more clear. If you disagree with the current situation with
portions of the catalog, please offer concrete suggestions to improve the situation.
This must occur at the level of policy/guidelines.
So, an example of these kinds of suggestions:
1. I think you guys should rewrite the guidelines for minifigs to say
exactly this thing: "Minifigs are defined as (insert content)."
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Minifigure = Anything that uses the Standard Torso Assembly design
or if there needs to be more clarity to ensure all those with Pirate Hooked hands
or boxing gloves are also included it must consist of this instead:-
Modified Figure = Anything from droids, to brick built Droids, to Skeletons and
stuff like Gollum, Slimer, Unikitty, Scurrier, Scooby etc..
Microfigure = Anything very small consisting of a single or maximum of two parts
such as Baby, Baby Yoda, Palpatine Hologram, Baby Groot, Trophy figures and all
those game figures etc..
I’m sure you will recall that I’ve mentioned this before and so I can assume
that you probably don’t see it as an ideal solution which is fine but let me
know where you see issues and I will try to re-think things whilst taking those
issues into account? However I think any solution will always run into problems
and catalog contradictions and so it may be that there is no one perfect solution?
However a less than perfect solution is always going to be better than a far
from perfect solution which is what we are going to end up with if we bundle
every buildable character into minifigs?
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Criticizing those who are actually working to resolve some of these longstanding
issues with the catalog makes you feel good and I get that. I do it too and
for the same reasons: it releases neurochemicals for me.
But until you put in the effort to effect solutions rather than just pointing
out problems, you're behaving in destructive rather than constructive ways.
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Criticizing for the sake of criticizing may very well be the way Yorbrick and
a few others get their fix but it’s certainly not the purpose of any of my own
criticisms as I hope you will appreciate that almost anything I critic is always
accompanied with alternative solutions even if others don’t agree with those
solutions and yes whilst I do have a lot to say, I think a lot of that stems
from my previous working background where I've spent much of my working life
at two different companies where I was specifically tasked with implementing
database solutions for cataloguing parts and components both for an Electrical
Transformer company and an IT company so basically exactly what a Bricklink catmin
is tasked with only dealing with different categories and different parts!
Now of coarse that doesn’t mean that I somehow think that makes my own suggestions
superior to anyone else’s and I don’t say all this because I one day crave to
be a catmin... I’m simply here to sell and that is all!
(besides which there are people here with a far wider knowledge of Lego than
myself which is another useful attribute) but because I want the catalog to work
for me and also work for my customers this is the only reason I allow my past
experience to kick in to find fault and offer solutions for what I see as issues
within the current catalog!
However whenever I critic the catalog please don’t ever think that I also critic
the hard work/good intentions of the catmins themselves regardless of whether
or not I share those same ideas and solutions
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| Author: | leopard37 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 13:06 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
|
Alright, this post is more to create discussion, not necessarily must be implemented.
As a seller I find the Minifigure, Utensil and Minifigure, Weapon categories.
I propose sub categories to thin out the main categories. A large portion of
current listings can remain in the main category (like an other or general category
- items that do not meet the definition of the sub category).
Minifigure, Utensil Tool
-anything with tool in the title
-axes
Minifigure, Utensil Kitchenware (could use a better name - best I could come
up with)
-anything you would find in your kitchen, pots, glasses, teapots, etc.
I also believe handlebars, and chairs should move to vehicle.
Minifigure, Weapons, Bladed
-swords, knifes, you know blades...
Minifigure, Weapons, Guns (Projectile is another potential name)
-projectile weapons, bows could also go in here.
Would love to hear what others think of the idea.
Tyson.
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| Author: | leopard37 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 12:48 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| ~snip
I agree with this suggestion, I was too late the last time around (missed the
discussion completely) and this time I'm too late to suggest.
Great minds and all that.
Tyson.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 12:07 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | My solution would be that it is not a figure, but the guidelines say it is for
anyone that wants to change it.
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I should have been more clear. If you disagree with the current situation with
portions of the catalog, please offer concrete suggestions to improve the situation.
This must occur at the level of policy/guidelines.
So, an example of these kinds of suggestions:
1. I think you guys should rewrite the guidelines for minifigs to say
exactly this thing: "Minifigs are defined as (insert content)."
2. Then you guys should delete every item in the catalog that does not
comply with the newly written definition.
Criticizing those who are actually working to resolve some of these longstanding
issues with the catalog makes you feel good and I get that. I do it too and
for the same reasons: it releases neurochemicals for me.
But until you put in the effort to effect solutions rather than just pointing
out problems, you're behaving in destructive rather than constructive ways.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 11:57 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | How is this type of minifigure to be handled?
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You're welcome to offer solutions to the problems you point out.
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My solution would be that it is not a figure, but the guidelines say it is for
anyone that wants to change it.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 11:55 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | How is this type of minifigure to be handled?
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You're welcome to offer solutions to the problems you point out.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 11:48 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.
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It is not possible to make everyone happy.
As I said here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1246481
"Ideally, we would hold off on these changes until the inventory system was
corrected and we could move all figures to counterparts. But people have been
asking for these figures to be considered figures for years and years, so I don't
see that it would really hurt anything to do it now."
I get your objections and I agree with them, to some degree. The addition of
the additional Thomas the Tank figures was not part of msSquirrel's original
request.
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How is this type of minifigure to be handled?
Presumably the minifigure inventory will contain the parts for the body/head/hair/legs/arms/hands
but exclude the axe, even though it is built into the minifigure's hand before
the figure is completed?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 11:43 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | I just find it ridiculous that anyone, but especially a company owned by LEGO
themselves, would refer to a DUPLO train as a minifigure.
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I think we get around it by using the slang term minifig.
I first started asking in the fall of 2018 for this issue to be corrected. In
fact, I made a list of all the different types of things BrickLink considers
to be "minifigs":
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2489#FigureTypes
I've not gotten any responses whatsoever to my requests to change the way
we refer to figures. But we really need updates to the way figures are handled
in inventories before we approve more of these kinds of figure assemblies for
catalog addition.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 11:27 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.
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It is not possible to make everyone happy.
As I said here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1246481
"Ideally, we would hold off on these changes until the inventory system was
corrected and we could move all figures to counterparts. But people have been
asking for these figures to be considered figures for years and years, so I don't
see that it would really hurt anything to do it now."
I get your objections and I agree with them, to some degree. The addition of
the additional Thomas the Tank figures was not part of msSquirrel's original
request.
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I just find it ridiculous that anyone, but especially a company owned by LEGO
themselves, would refer to a DUPLO train as a minifigure. LEGO used to appear
to be so protective and careful with their use of the word minifigure previously
to not apply to things like droids, Unikitty, skeletons, and so on but I guess
if they are supporting these changes then they must be OK with it.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 11:15 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | Why is
[27928]
moved to plate, modified
and
[2401]
moved to plate, wedge?
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Please see the definitions of those categories on this recently-updated page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1568
| | I think the wedge base should be the defining characteristic.
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As always, if you or any other member want to offer suggestions for redefining
categories that are an improvement you're welcome to do so.
| | There are other parts in the wedge, plate category that have modifications apart
from the wedge.
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Right, and the list is not complete yet. It won't be complete until March
1st (and subject to review/approval during March).
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 11:09 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.
|
It is not possible to make everyone happy.
As I said here:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1246481
"Ideally, we would hold off on these changes until the inventory system was
corrected and we could move all figures to counterparts. But people have been
asking for these figures to be considered figures for years and years, so I don't
see that it would really hurt anything to do it now."
I get your objections and I agree with them, to some degree. The addition of
the additional Thomas the Tank figures was not part of msSquirrel's original
request.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 07:25 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Similarly, nearly all the brickheadz are brick built characters
so the relevant assemblies should be moved to minifigures.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 07:22 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Move to minifigure:
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 06:51 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
|
The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.
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Reading between the lines here I figure (no pun intended) that you don't
think the current system used by Bricklink to define what makes a minifigure
a minifigure makes a whole lot of sense? Well I don't disagree....
Personally I've always felt that a minifigure should only be defined as minifigure
if the build includes that all important standard Torso design:-
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1192759
It may not be the perfect solution but at least we would then have some kind
of guidelines to follow which will prevent any old buildable character (however
large) from being categoried alongside what most would consider an actual minifigure?
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 06:14 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Why is
moved to plate, modified
and
moved to plate, wedge?
I think the wedge base should be the defining characteristic.
There are other parts in the wedge, plate category that have modifications apart
from the wedge.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 05:57 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
|
The entire assembly of this set, and all other buildable figures should be moved
into minifigures. These are characters built out of parts like Thomas the Tank
Engine, Cars, etc. As those examples are now minifigures, then surely so are
these characters.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2021 05:51 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Now these are minifigures:
Shouldn't these parts and similar
[p=52053]
be moved into a new category: Parts Duplo Minifigure Modified head
Or get rid of the minifigures category completely by renaming it, then have a
minifigures category inside that so that the word minifigures corresponds to
what LEGO and most LEGO fans call minifigures, figures assembled from minifigure
parts.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2021 20:29 | | Subject: | Re: 6H or 6L | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I'm surprised you aren't calling it a Bar 4L with Stud holder on end.
In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Does that mean that others like this
to 4H?
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Yes, I believe so.
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It should at least by 1 x 1 x 4 - then the height would be implicit. I don't
think we have this option with the antenna in the OP since that doesn't have
a stud holder - it doesn't have a length and width, only a height.
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I would be fine with doing it that way, also.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2021 17:44 | | Subject: | Re: 6H or 6L | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Does that mean that others like this
to 4H?
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Yes, I believe so.
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It should at least by 1 x 1 x 4 - then the height would be implicit. I don't
think we have this option with the antenna in the OP since that doesn't have
a stud holder - it doesn't have a length and width, only a height.
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I would be fine with doing it that way, also.
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2021 17:43 | | Subject: | Re: 6H or 6L | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Does that mean that others like this
to 4H?
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Yes, I believe so.
|
It should at least by 1 x 1 x 4 - then the height would be implicit. I don't
think we have this option with the antenna in the OP since that doesn't have
a stud holder - it doesn't have a length and width, only a height.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2021 17:41 | | Subject: | Re: 6H or 6L | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Does that mean that others like this
to 4H?
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Yes, I believe so.
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| Author: | Hexy | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2021 17:04 | | Subject: | Re: 6H or 6L | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Does that mean that others like this
to 4H?
In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Ok, thanks. do you think it's worth changing it to an L measurement?
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No. Since it is an antenna, it should be measured in brick heights.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2021 17:01 | | Subject: | Re: 6H or 6L | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Ok, thanks. do you think it's worth changing it to an L measurement?
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No. Since it is an antenna, it should be measured in brick heights.
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