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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 13:56
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SylvainLS (46)

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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
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Just like to add that our forum has all the functionality of this one as well
as the ability to edit, add attachments, conduct polls, plus more and its free
software - phbbs forum. It took our web guy an hour or so to get it installed
and me about a day to learn all about it (and I still don't know all there
is to know) […]

Take a look at http://forum.bricklink.com/ ….

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Most users ever online was 20 on Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:25 pm

That was around the time ADP was announced.

My point was that forum.bl.com uses a modern, off-the-shelf, forum engine (and,
if I’m not mistaken, phpBB (it uses the Ariki style, designed for phpBB 3.0)).

So BL knows about and has experience with modern, off-the-shelf, forum engines
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 13:56
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 4876-1
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axaday (7301)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4876  Name: Fun Friends Hair Bands
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4876-1 (Inv) Fun Friends Hair Bands
21 Parts, 2005
Sets: Clikits

* Change 2 Part {Trans-Dark Pink to Trans-Pink} clikits079 Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Large with Hole
* Change 2 Part {Trans-Dark Pink to Trans-Pink} clikits002 Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Small with Hole
* Change 2 Part {Trans-Dark Pink to Trans-Pink} {clikits027u Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits027b Clikits Icon, Heart 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Light Purple {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits013b Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Medium Blue {clikits005u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole - (Undetermined Version) to clikits005b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Hole, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Medium Blue {clikits004u Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin - (Undetermined Version) to clikits004b Clikits Icon, Flower 10 Petals 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Polished (Transparent Colors Only)}

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Sealed Set. I will attach pics when I get home in a few hours. There will be one more change after I create a part.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 13:44
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 7623-1
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Turez (43)

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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7623  Name: Temple Escape
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7623-1 (Inv) Temple Escape
526 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Ark

* Add 1 Part 63965 Reddish Brown Bar 6L with Stop Ring (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Delete 9 Part 772 Dark Bluish Gray Brick 1 x 2 x 2 without Inside Axle Holder or Stud Holder (match ID 2)
* Change 1 Part Reddish Brown 4095 Bar 6.6L with Stop Ring (Patio Umbrella Stand) {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 9 Part Dark Bluish Gray 3245b Brick 1 x 2 x 2 with Inside Axle Holder {Alternate to Regular} {match ID 2 to 0}

Comments from Submitter:
Source: Set from my own collection which was bought new and not mixed with other sets. My set from December 2008 came with the new bar type (and 32064 Yellow Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole).

772: See my thoughts at https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1163628
I know this is a difficult request and it is probably impossible to find a definitive proof, so I don't mind if it will be rejected. But I'd like to hear at least an opinion on that.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 13:35
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In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  […]
Just like to add that our forum has all the functionality of this one as well
as the ability to edit, add attachments, conduct polls, plus more and its free
software - phbbs forum. It took our web guy an hour or so to get it installed
and me about a day to learn all about it (and I still don't know all there
is to know) […]

Take a look at http://forum.bricklink.com/ ….

From the front page:

Most users ever online was 20 on Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:25 pm

That was around the time ADP was announced.

Considering that was from 35 total users at that date and we have a very restricted
membership that isn't worrying. We are still growing there and as things
develop I am sure more will participate. I am not purporting that our forum is
better than this one far from it, but at the same time it shows what can be done
in a short space of time where there is a will.

My quote was from the Studio Forum, not your Forum.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 13:31
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  I don't monitor all the most used AFOL forums, but my impression that the
BrickLink Forum has been the leading and most active AFOL forum for a long time
now, despite it's archaic appearance and limitations. To the extent that
that is true, we don't want to break something that is performing so well.

I don't think it is, at least not for general LEGO discussion, MOCs, new
sets, etc. Eurobricks is more active and has way better content than here.

However, the BL forum is the most active and leading forum when it comes to Bricklink
issues, and aspects of buying and selling on BL. And isn't that primarily
what it should be? A forum that supports BL users with issues when using BL.

So what if the forum is a bit old fashioned looking. It is functional, I'd
hate to lose things like the easy tagging in of sets, parts and minifigures,
and so on.

Sorry for this
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 13:24
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  I don't monitor all the most used AFOL forums, but my impression that the
BrickLink Forum has been the leading and most active AFOL forum for a long time
now, despite it's archaic appearance and limitations. To the extent that
that is true, we don't want to break something that is performing so well.

I don't think it is, at least not for general LEGO discussion, MOCs, new
sets, etc. Eurobricks is more active and has way better content than here.

However, the BL forum is the most active and leading forum when it comes to Bricklink
issues, and aspects of buying and selling on BL. And isn't that primarily
what it should be? A forum that supports BL users with issues when using BL.

So what if the forum is a bit old fashioned looking. It is functional, I'd
hate to lose things like the easy tagging in of sets, parts and minifigures,
and so on.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 13:07
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  […]
Just like to add that our forum has all the functionality of this one as well
as the ability to edit, add attachments, conduct polls, plus more and its free
software - phbbs forum. It took our web guy an hour or so to get it installed
and me about a day to learn all about it (and I still don't know all there
is to know) […]

Take a look at http://forum.bricklink.com/ ….

From the front page:

Most users ever online was 20 on Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:25 pm

That was around the time ADP was announced.

Considering that was from 35 total users at that date and we have a very restricted
membership that isn't worrying. We are still growing there and as things
develop I am sure more will participate. I am not purporting that our forum is
better than this one far from it, but at the same time it shows what can be done
in a short space of time where there is a will.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 13:02
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:

  Hi Russell and thank you for your comments on this topic (which isn't ours)
as you can tell.

Just like to add that our forum has all the functionality of this one as well
as the ability to edit, add attachments, conduct polls, plus more and its free
software - phbbs forum. It took our web guy an hour or so to get it installed
and me about a day to learn all about it (and I still don't know all there
is to know)

The Bricklink forum and messaging system , as you know, are well out of date
and whilst most of the regular members love this archaic piece of software (and
we have a liking to it as well), newer users are used to much richer applications.

You use the word "richer", but in some ways BrickLink's Forum is much richer
than these one-size-fits-all applications. It is fully integrated with the site
- Inv Change requests, Catalog and suggestions, moderator tools, messaging system,
macro tags, ID cards, and the list goes on and on. Sure, you can set up something
cheap and quick, and because it is new, it has some richer features. But overall,
if we did something like that, it would severely cheapen the BrickLink experience.

It's true that the Forum (as well as all the old code on the site) needs
to be completely rewritten and possibly redesigned. But we need to be sure while
doing that that we don't water down a core feature that made the site great.

So does this mean that is what is going on? Or is the focus still the new tangent
XP?
  

I don't monitor all the most used AFOL forums, but my impression that the
  BrickLink Forum has been the leading and most active AFOL forum for a long time
now, despite it's archaic appearance and limitations. To the extent that
that is true, we don't want to break something that is performing so well.

I think the OP first and susbsequent messages has shown statistically that the
forum is not being used as much as t it had been in the past, and whilst I agree
it is a little like the weather, constantly changeable, he may have a point from
strictly the number side. Don't get us wrong - we enjoy using the forum -
it is really the only communications that goes on on the site, other than comms
via the messaging system.

Still, as we and others have said there are many more important things to be
done than the forum or messaging. My earlier point was it could be done quickly
and easily with plug ins (which is the way most modern software is put together.

Mo one, anywhere can do it all, not today, anyway. Dan and Eric had a head start
and brought this site to what it is today and we, like many others will not forget
that. Of course, improvement and updating is needed, but where and what that
transpires to be is currently outside of our knowledge.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 12:55
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  […]
Just like to add that our forum has all the functionality of this one as well
as the ability to edit, add attachments, conduct polls, plus more and its free
software - phbbs forum. It took our web guy an hour or so to get it installed
and me about a day to learn all about it (and I still don't know all there
is to know) […]

Take a look at http://forum.bricklink.com/ ….

From the front page:

Most users ever online was 20 on Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:25 pm

That was around the time ADP was announced.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Nov 8, 2019 12:53
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In Suggestions, Leftoverbricks writes:
  I agree, the Forum needs an update.

The forum and many other parts of this site are written in extremely old code
and it would require lots of time and effort for programmers to change this.
It's not like changing old code, they have to develop a completely new environment
from scratch. To make the forum 2019-proof they also have to make the forum responsive
for phones and tablets.

We must not forget their promise to the users after their acquisition

"Message from Jung-Ju “Jay” Kim, founder of the online game company Nexon, incoming
owner of BrickLink.com:

(As of June 5th, the Hong Kong-based company Bricklink Limited has acquired the
assets of BrickLink.com. Bricklink Limited is a subsidiary of NXMH.)

Dear BrickLink Community,

I am extremely pleased to be taking over the operations of BrickLink.com. I’ve
been a LEGO fan for 40 years and an avid user of BrickLink.com for over a decade.
My first plans are to upgrade the website, and do our best to make users happier
and more prosperous, while staying true to the original vision of BrickLink.com
founder, Daniel Jezek. We will work hard in order to ensure that BrickLink.com
becomes stable, secure and as user-friendly as possible.

I want to sincerely thank the family of Daniel Jezek, especially his mother Eliska,
as well as the BrickLink.com Community, for the opportunity to upgrade and operate
such a beloved website as BrickLink.com. In order to expedite the process of
renovating BrickLink.com, I and Bricklink Limited will be asking users to e-mail
us with their ideas for the improved functionality of the site, as well as any
current issues that need to be addressed in order to provide users with the best
possible selling and buying experience. We’ll establish those lines of communication
very soon.

Thank you for your continued patronage and support of Brick"Link.com

Jung-Ju Kim, incoming owner of BrickLink.com

Not really sure we have seen any of the promises turn into reality, but willing
to listen to debate about that.

  
In the past two years or so the owners of Bricklink showed no interest whatsoever
in changing the old 1990's code. Maybe they think 'don't change a
thing while it's working'.

Their wording was 'Spaghetti code' at the Brickworld conference in Octboer
of last year.
  
Changes to the forum?
This will not happen.
I wish it would.
But I'm sceptical.

As are we all
  
BL is really something special: it's outdated but yet thousands of sellers
earn a nice income using the outdated interface.
So I can understand BL's POV: never change something that already works fine.

I think they have bent that guideline several times with updates to the system.
  
But it's bad anyway. BL is 1990. We need 2019!

They should have started that with a proper system analysis and design project
coupled with liaison with the membership. (It was over 6 years ago and re-doing
this site is not a 6 year development project,

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