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 Author: Fragty View Messages Posted By Fragty
 Posted: Sep 5, 2019 17:24
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Fragty (609)

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Yes this is "brittle blue" for sure.
It fits the color, its fits the time period

See here for more info about what brittle blue is:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/15210784018

ps some ppl might collect these
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In Colors, detroitbricks writes:
  In Colors, mmookk61 writes:
  In Colors, detroitbricks writes:
  Ok I have ran across another color issue, I have ran across this a few times
but this time both parts came from the same used set. Assume both are blue but
1 is discolored. Does anybody sell these or do they go in the scrap bin?

Put the set number into the list inventory button and see if there are two different
blues listed. What set is it?


I realized the lighting in my house in terrible, I tried for many pictures and
think this is it. The set is 3854 The Krusty Krab, and it says there is a 1x3
blue brick and the blue 1x2 jumper. Both are this weird blue and its 100% this
color even inside the brick.

Set 3825?
 Author: detroitbricks View Messages Posted By detroitbricks
 Posted: Sep 5, 2019 16:41
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In Colors, mmookk61 writes:
  In Colors, detroitbricks writes:
  Ok I have ran across another color issue, I have ran across this a few times
but this time both parts came from the same used set. Assume both are blue but
1 is discolored. Does anybody sell these or do they go in the scrap bin?

Put the set number into the list inventory button and see if there are two different
blues listed. What set is it?


I realized the lighting in my house in terrible, I tried for many pictures and
think this is it. The set is 3854 The Krusty Krab, and it says there is a 1x3
blue brick and the blue 1x2 jumper. Both are this weird blue and its 100% this
color even inside the brick.
 
 Author: FreeStorm View Messages Posted By FreeStorm
 Posted: Sep 5, 2019 15:57
 Subject: Inside boxes from set 523-1
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FreeStorm (366)

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Today I received my bought set
 
Set No: 523  Name: Locomotive and Station
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523-1 (Inv) Locomotive and Station
46 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1977
Sets: DUPLO: Basic Set

Inside the box
 
Original Box No: 523  Name: Locomotive and Station
  
523-1 Locomotive and Station
Original Boxes: DUPLO: Basic Set
There is two identical boxes with parts inside (look that funny rabbit)

Should I add these boxes as alternate picture of original box 523-1 or add as
a gear inside inventory of set 523-1 ?

-Fred

PS: maybe that box exist in catalog, but I do not find them.
 




 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Sep 5, 2019 15:39
 Subject: Re: What year were part numbers introduced?
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In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, 1271moggy writes:
  I have just wondering if anyone knew when Lego started putting the part number
on the pieces. I have just found part 3176 which looks fairly 'new'
but has no part number. It just has the numbers 5 and 04 on the underside.
What do these numbers refer to?
Apologies if this has been asked before - I cannot find a thread.
Thanking you all

The one or two digit numbers indicate molds and mold cavities in the actual machine
that creates the parts from liquid plastic injection. As far as what year TLC
started putting part numbers on the parts themselves, I'm afraid I do not
know.

David

Part number such as 3001 for a 2x4 brick ? Certainly the older CA parts had that,
so it must have been in the earliest days.

Nita Rae

The CA parts did have mold numbers (5 04) but not the part number (3176)
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Sep 5, 2019 15:29
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WoutR (919)

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In Catalog, 1271moggy writes:
  I have just wondering if anyone knew when Lego started putting the part number
on the pieces. I have just found part 3176 which looks fairly 'new'
but has no part number. It just has the numbers 5 and 04 on the underside.
What do these numbers refer to?
Apologies if this has been asked before - I cannot find a thread.
Thanking you all

If I remember correctly, around 1985.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, 1271moggy writes:
  I have just wondering if anyone knew when Lego started putting the part number
on the pieces. I have just found part 3176 which looks fairly 'new'
but has no part number. It just has the numbers 5 and 04 on the underside.
What do these numbers refer to?
Apologies if this has been asked before - I cannot find a thread.
Thanking you all

The one or two digit numbers indicate molds and mold cavities in the actual machine
that creates the parts from liquid plastic injection. As far as what year TLC
started putting part numbers on the parts themselves, I'm afraid I do not
know.

David

Part number such as 3001 for a 2x4 brick ? Certainly the older CA parts had that,
so it must have been in the earliest days.

Nita Rae
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
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In Catalog, 1271moggy writes:
  I have just wondering if anyone knew when Lego started putting the part number
on the pieces. I have just found part 3176 which looks fairly 'new'
but has no part number. It just has the numbers 5 and 04 on the underside.
What do these numbers refer to?
Apologies if this has been asked before - I cannot find a thread.
Thanking you all

The one or two digit numbers indicate molds and mold cavities in the actual machine
that creates the parts from liquid plastic injection. As far as what year TLC
started putting part numbers on the parts themselves, I'm afraid I do not
know.

David
 Author: pikachu3 View Messages Posted By pikachu3
 Posted: Sep 5, 2019 10:30
 Subject: Re: Help with color
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:

  I have discussed copper with Admins in the past, I think it is time for an update


The only color that I could see a chance of getting added would be something
akin to "Metallic Gold" or "Metallic Silver" to separate surface-coated copper
parts from copper-color molded parts. Beyond that, it would be highly unlikely
to get any consensus to make further changes.

Cheers,
Randy

+1 for Metallic Copper

I don't know of any part that comes in more than one copper color; without
any overlap, it makes sense to keep all the pearl copper colors together here.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:

  I have discussed copper with Admins in the past, I think it is time for an update


The only color that I could see a chance of getting added would be something
akin to "Metallic Gold" or "Metallic Silver" to separate surface-coated copper
parts from copper-color molded parts. Beyond that, it would be highly unlikely
to get any consensus to make further changes.

Cheers,
Randy

That would be my priority also. I think we need a Metallic Copper.
 Author: 1271moggy View Messages Posted By 1271moggy
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I have just wondering if anyone knew when Lego started putting the part number
on the pieces. I have just found part 3176 which looks fairly 'new'
but has no part number. It just has the numbers 5 and 04 on the underside.
What do these numbers refer to?
Apologies if this has been asked before - I cannot find a thread.
Thanking you all
 Author: paulvdb View Messages Posted By paulvdb
 Posted: Sep 5, 2019 04:02
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 088-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
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088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Delete 1 Part 3404ac02 White Turntable 4 x 4 - Old Type Complete, Faceted with Indented Base
* Add 1 Part 3404ac01 White Turntable 4 x 4 - Old Type Complete, Faceted

The person who inventoried the set confirmed that 3404ac01 should be in this
set. See https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1155688
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
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088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Delete 1 Part 3404ac02 White Turntable 4 x 4 - Old Type Complete, Faceted with Indented Base
* Add 1 Part 3404ac01 White Turntable 4 x 4 - Old Type Complete, Faceted

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=088-1&viewID=Y

I have checked many sets. It appears that the turnable 3404c02 was first produced
sometime between 1974-75 and then, it was replaced by 3403c01 in 1976.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 088  Name: Super Set
* 
088-1 (Inv) Super Set
614 Parts, 1969
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Set

* Delete 1 Part 3404ac02 White Turntable 4 x 4 - Old Type Complete, Faceted with Indented Base
* Add 1 Part 3404ac01 White Turntable 4 x 4 - Old Type Complete, Faceted
 Author: dcarmine View Messages Posted By dcarmine
 Posted: Sep 4, 2019 21:29
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In Colors, detroitbricks writes:
  Ok I have ran across another color issue, I have ran across this a few times
but this time both parts came from the same used set. Assume both are blue but
1 is discolored. Does anybody sell these or do they go in the scrap bin?

It is discolored from age. I think someone calls it "brittle blue". I have
seen this in my inventory, brand new blue bricks turned yellowish, inside and
out. I donate them to schools. Sometimes these blue parts will crack easily,
especially minifig torsos. It's not all blue parts, so some blue parts are
made with a different recipe?

Someone else talked recently that he opened a MIB set from the '90s had a
lot of blue pieces discolored.

It's a known issue, but I'm not sure if anyone knows why.

HTH
Donna
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In Colors, detroitbricks writes:
  Ok I have ran across another color issue, I have ran across this a few times
but this time both parts came from the same used set. Assume both are blue but
1 is discolored. Does anybody sell these or do they go in the scrap bin?

Put the set number into the list inventory button and see if there are two different
blues listed. What set is it?
 Author: iprice View Messages Posted By iprice
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In Colors, detroitbricks writes:
  Ok I have ran across another color issue, I have ran across this a few times
but this time both parts came from the same used set. Assume both are blue but
1 is discolored. Does anybody sell these or do they go in the scrap bin?

The hinge brick is definitely blue - it only comes in one shade of blue (if I've
selcted the right product from the catalogue), so that's got to be it. The
1x3 brick just looks like dark blue to me.

TBF the blue hing brick does look darker than normal blue, but that could be
due to bad light, camera etc.

Do you have any normal blue or dark blue bricks to compare these to?
 Author: detroitbricks View Messages Posted By detroitbricks
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Ok I have ran across another color issue, I have ran across this a few times
but this time both parts came from the same used set. Assume both are blue but
1 is discolored. Does anybody sell these or do they go in the scrap bin?
 


 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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Ah, I didn't read properly Yes, that should already cause a whole lot
less burden.

Good thing that at least the link to the part out value result page is directly
accessible and editable without having to go through the "get value" button.
That way, at least some of us that have some programming or perhaps Excel or
other skills are able to save a bunch of clicks. Seller tools aren't coming
to it seems we all have to make our own But yes, I think I agree this would
be a good feature.

In Suggestions, speshy writes:
  In this suggestion I'm suggesting a simple link at each set's page (probably
the better function would be a button). Clicking on it would provide the same
function as navigating through Market Price Guide entering the set's
number, then clicking "Get Value". It doesn't need to be information saved
on the page, but if I'm looking at a set on BL and wondering what its part
out value is, I should be able to find out quicker than taking the above steps.


K

In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, speshy writes:
  I'd like to suggest that each set's "Part Out Value" be linked directly
from its Set Entry page (assuming 6 mo. value of "new" parts). It would remove
a few annoying clicks to obtain a set's part out value after browsing it
in the catalog.

Thanks,

K

I'm not an expert but I think this would be too heavy for the website. Even
asking 1 part out value the system needs to process all priceguide data of all
parts in that set. If a totally random user would be browsing through 10 sets,
that whole process has to happen 10 times. It's only useful for sellers and
only at those moments that they want to purchase something, so I think it would
be an overkill of constant processing on the server for a small advantage.
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In this suggestion I'm suggesting a simple link at each set's page (probably
the better function would be a button). Clicking on it would provide the same
function as navigating through Market Price Guide entering the set's
number, then clicking "Get Value". It doesn't need to be information saved
on the page, but if I'm looking at a set on BL and wondering what its part
out value is, I should be able to find out quicker than taking the above steps.


K

In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, speshy writes:
  I'd like to suggest that each set's "Part Out Value" be linked directly
from its Set Entry page (assuming 6 mo. value of "new" parts). It would remove
a few annoying clicks to obtain a set's part out value after browsing it
in the catalog.

Thanks,

K

I'm not an expert but I think this would be too heavy for the website. Even
asking 1 part out value the system needs to process all priceguide data of all
parts in that set. If a totally random user would be browsing through 10 sets,
that whole process has to happen 10 times. It's only useful for sellers and
only at those moments that they want to purchase something, so I think it would
be an overkill of constant processing on the server for a small advantage.
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In Suggestions, speshy writes:
  I'd like to suggest that each set's "Part Out Value" be linked directly
from its Set Entry page (assuming 6 mo. value of "new" parts). It would remove
a few annoying clicks to obtain a set's part out value after browsing it
in the catalog.

Thanks,

K

I'm not an expert but I think this would be too heavy for the website. Even
asking 1 part out value the system needs to process all priceguide data of all
parts in that set. If a totally random user would be browsing through 10 sets,
that whole process has to happen 10 times. It's only useful for sellers and
only at those moments that they want to purchase something, so I think it would
be an overkill of constant processing on the server for a small advantage.
 Author: steelant View Messages Posted By steelant
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 329  Name: Antique Car
* 
329-1 (Inv) Antique Car
111 Parts, 1967
Sets: Classic: Vehicle: Traffic

* Change 4 Part Black {3009 Brick 1 x 6 to CRSSPRT02 Brick 1 x 6 without Bottom Tubes, with Cross Supports}
* Change 3 Part Black {3023 Plate 1 x 2 to 3023OLD Plate 1 x 2 with old style bottom}
* Change 20 Part Light Gray {3023 Plate 1 x 2 to 3023OLD Plate 1 x 2 with old style bottom}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Clear {3009 Brick 1 x 6 to CRSSPRT02 Brick 1 x 6 without Bottom Tubes, with Cross Supports}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Clear {3023 Plate 1 x 2 to 3023OLD Plate 1 x 2 with old style bottom}
* Change 3 Part Yellow {3023 Plate 1 x 2 to 3023OLD Plate 1 x 2 with old style bottom}

Comments from Submitter:
The information comes from the opening of a "mint-in-box" unopened set (Samsonite). I opened the set to verify the pieces. I also have info on what "lego logo's" are on the studs, to ensure era-specific correctness if interested.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Colors, WoutR writes:

  I have discussed copper with Admins in the past, I think it is time for an update


The only color that I could see a chance of getting added would be something
akin to "Metallic Gold" or "Metallic Silver" to separate surface-coated copper
parts from copper-color molded parts. Beyond that, it would be highly unlikely
to get any consensus to make further changes.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Colors, DeLuca writes:
  In Colors, WoutR writes:
  BrickLink's copper combines several different copper-like colors.

It combines LEGO colors 139 Copper, 189 Reddish Gold, 176 Red Flip/Flop (for Bionicle mask 32573 and 32572), 178 Yellow Flip/Flop (for Bionicle Kanohi mask), 346 Copper Metallic, 300 Copper, Drum Lacquered matte copper surface coating, 334 Copper ink (another surface coating).


Wow. 🤯 Why??
Is there an actual reason for this (e.g. parts that overlap between LEGO’s colours,
natural colour-variations that make identification difficult, etc), or is it
just the product of inertia?

When parts are released in a color that is not (yet) included in the Bricklink
catalog, there are two options:
- Add the new color,
- Group the color with an existing color

For all copper colors (both plastic colors and surface coatings), the second
option was chosen even though the appearance of the part can be very different.
This is supposed to make it easier for buyers and sellers. Many sellers will
not be able to accurately identify these colors because they are not used often
enough. These 7 colors were used for less than 50 parts in our catalog.

I have discussed copper with Admins in the past, I think it is time for an update
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 Posted: Sep 4, 2019 05:20
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7413-1
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In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7413  Name: Passage of Jun-Chi
* 
7413-1 (Inv) Passage of Jun-Chi
96 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 3 Gear, 2003
Sets: Adventurers: Orient Expedition

* Add 2 Part 30389c Light Gray Hinge Brick 2 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger Vertical and Axle Hole - X Opening (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 30389b Hinge Brick 2 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger Vertical and Axle Hole {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
I didn't notice until I was taking a pic for the catalog and then realized I'd just been down this road in another set.


I just took this set apart over the weekend for the first time since it was built
from MISB.
You made me look, and I have 30389c also.

Thea
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