Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Amazingly  | | Posted: | May 4, 2024 09:15 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SezaR writes:
| | In Selling, BrickDeals writes:
| | In Selling, Amazingly writes:
| | Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks
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Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.
It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.
But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.
Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.
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I particularly like this one that I came across with today:
In my store, I have no lot limit, or any other hidden fees. I only charge
$1.50 to cover handling and shipping supply costs (in addition to shipping cost)
plus 3.5% of total invoice value to cover my store's overhead cost. We will
not send missing items. We only refund their value.
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I saw a store in the US that said 2.00 was added for things like bubble mailers,
tape, pens, stamps and even gas to get to the post office. The list had a lot
more but the stamps and Pens really had me laughing.
I don't understand how people do not put themselves in the buyers shoes.
If you are going to charge a fee like that you are better off not saying anything
at all.
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | May 4, 2024 03:33 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, BrickDeals writes:
| | In Selling, Amazingly writes:
| | Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks
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Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.
It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.
But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.
Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.
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I particularly like this one that I came across with today:
In my store, I have no lot limit, or any other hidden fees. I only charge
$1.50 to cover handling and shipping supply costs (in addition to shipping cost)
plus 3.5% of total invoice value to cover my store's overhead cost. We will
not send missing items. We only refund their value.
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| Author: | BrickDeals | | Posted: | May 4, 2024 03:13 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Amazingly writes:
| | Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks
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Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.
It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.
But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.
Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 15:38 | | Subject: | Re: Selling CMF's | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | It is possible to cut open a polybag and seal it again with tape. If you really
wanted to be neat, you can split them behind the flap on the back and it is almost
invisible. But they are still open and take up more space than putting in a ziplock
bag and most buyers buying a non-sealed set want it for the contents and not
the packet.
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Honestly this is why I generally just part them out if I'm going to sell
them.
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 15:37 | | Subject: | Re: Selling CMF's | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Dhobeck writes:
| | Have you had any problems shipping them in bubble envelopes?
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I've not tried but I think you could fit 1 or 2
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 15:10 | | Subject: | Re: Selling CMF's | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, macebobo writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.
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I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?
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I just opened all of mine so I can note that one can open them with minimal damage
and use tape to re-seal (not to sell them as sealed, of course). I don't
think this is possible with a polybag.
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It is possible to cut open a polybag and seal it again with tape. If you really
wanted to be neat, you can split them behind the flap on the back and it is almost
invisible. But they are still open and take up more space than putting in a ziplock
bag and most buyers buying a non-sealed set want it for the contents and not
the packet.
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| Author: | Dhobeck | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 14:58 | | Subject: | Re: Selling CMF's | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, macebobo writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.
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I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?
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I just opened all of mine so I can note that one can open them with minimal damage
and use tape to re-seal (not to sell them as sealed, of course). I don't
think this is possible with a polybag.
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Have you had any problems shipping them in bubble envelopes?
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 14:54 | | Subject: | Re: Selling CMF's | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, macebobo writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.
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I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?
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I just opened all of mine so I can note that one can open them with minimal damage
and use tape to re-seal (not to sell them as sealed, of course). I don't
think this is possible with a polybag.
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| Author: | macebobo | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 13:52 | | Subject: | Re: Selling CMF's | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.
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I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 13:45 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | | | 3 days? 15 days, at least 
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That's because you sell too much!
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Indeed! It takes me O days here 
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Zero day? You're a living exploit!
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 13:42 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | | | 3 days? 15 days, at least
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That's because you sell too much!
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No no, I'm just in forum for funzies!
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, runner.caller writes:
| | In Selling, Amazingly writes:
| | Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks
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I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.
I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.
One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.
So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".
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Yes although like you say I think the principal from Paypal's perspective
is that you cannot charge your paypal customers different to any other payment
method so even if you called it an Admin fee that fee would need to apply to
all customers and not just your Paypal customers else it would be deemed as a
paypal specific admin fee. I guess you could get around this by making your store
only accept paypal as a payment method because then the admin fee applies to
all your customers equally!
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 13:03 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | | | 3 days? 15 days, at least
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That's because you sell too much!
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Indeed! It takes me O days here
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 13:02 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"
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I'm thinking of a new one:
"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."
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That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!
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I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...
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The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver
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3 days? 15 days, at least
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Usually 1-2 days but what is you doing that takes 15 days 🦦…
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 12:56 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | 3 days? 15 days, at least
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That's because you sell too much!
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 12:55 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"
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I'm thinking of a new one:
"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."
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That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!
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I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...
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The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver
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3 days? 15 days, at least
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 12:46 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | That’s a wild one 👁️👁️ |
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 12:45 | | Subject: | Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"
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I'm thinking of a new one:
"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."
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That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!
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I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...
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The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 12:39 | | Subject: | Re: Selling CMF's | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.
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I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.
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They still need to be opened to identify them as they are meant to be blind packaged.
Of course, in some cases the barcodes can be used where known. In the same way
buyers don't care about ripped open foil packets for earlier series, I doubt
buyers will want sellers to be shipping the relatively large and heavy ripped
open boxes at the buyer's expense, just for them to be thrown away. If they
were meant to be identifiable without opening, it is a very different case.
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | May 3, 2024 12:31 | | Subject: | Re: Selling CMF's | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.
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I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.
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