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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: May 7, 2024 17:26
 Subject: Re: Debugging shipping rules
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  Is there any way to debug these kind of things? Like making a fake order in my
shop?

You can create a second account for testing purposes

Correct, just do not click to the point where an order is actually created.
Just use it to see what numbers are being calculated for the shopping cart.

Nita Rae
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 7, 2024 12:24
 Subject: Re: Debugging shipping rules
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  Is there any way to debug these kind of things? Like making a fake order in my
shop?

You can create a second account for testing purposes
 Author: BrickedPete View Messages Posted By BrickedPete
 Posted: May 7, 2024 05:28
 Subject: Re: Debugging shipping rules
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Ok, I think I understand it.

One of the items ordered was the Death Star II: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=40591-1#T=S&O={%22iconly%22:0}

Dimensions are listed as 13.8 x 26 x 6cm. I am guessing this is the original
box size.

My only available shipping method for the person ordering had a max depth of
3cm (because that is technically an envelope and not a package in many EU countries)

It looks like Bricklink is taking the original box dimensions, even if there
is no box (which happens a lot for used sets).

I have removed the package restrictions for now, since "the envelope trick"
is now just as expensive as shipping packages in most cases anyway.

Thanks,
Peter


In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Selling, BrickedPete writes:
  I have recently had two orders where the shipping method was marked "Request
for invoice (backup method)".

Is this an option that is always available on the checkout page?

I am trying to figure out why it looks like it was not possible to automatically
generate the invoice. Going over my shipping method, I noticed that there was
a fairly strict limit on the box size (3cm height) and the items sold were complete
sets.
The size in the Bricklink catalogue is obviously larger.

Could that have been the issue?

Is there any way to debug these kind of things? Like making a fake order in my
shop?


Thanks,
Peter

It might have exceeded the dimensions, but we'd need more information. What
set was it and what is your largest shipping option you have and do you have
it set for Max Dimensions or Total Dimensions? I personally prefer the "max
dimension" option a I reuse the boxes from LEGO which come in a variety of
standard sizes.

If you measure the exterior of these boxes, back out .5 inches (1cm?) so that
you have the interior dimensionsfor the product to fit inside.
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: May 7, 2024 05:10
 Subject: Re: Debugging shipping rules
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In Selling, BrickedPete writes:
  I have recently had two orders where the shipping method was marked "Request
for invoice (backup method)".

Is this an option that is always available on the checkout page?

I am trying to figure out why it looks like it was not possible to automatically
generate the invoice. Going over my shipping method, I noticed that there was
a fairly strict limit on the box size (3cm height) and the items sold were complete
sets.
The size in the Bricklink catalogue is obviously larger.

Could that have been the issue?

Is there any way to debug these kind of things? Like making a fake order in my
shop?


Thanks,
Peter

It might have exceeded the dimensions, but we'd need more information. What
set was it and what is your largest shipping option you have and do you have
it set for Max Dimensions or Total Dimensions? I personally prefer the "max
dimension" option a I reuse the boxes from LEGO which come in a variety of
standard sizes.

If you measure the exterior of these boxes, back out .5 inches (1cm?) so that
you have the interior dimensionsfor the product to fit inside.
 Author: BrickedPete View Messages Posted By BrickedPete
 Posted: May 7, 2024 04:28
 Subject: Debugging shipping rules
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I have recently had two orders where the shipping method was marked "Request
for invoice (backup method)".

Is this an option that is always available on the checkout page?

I am trying to figure out why it looks like it was not possible to automatically
generate the invoice. Going over my shipping method, I noticed that there was
a fairly strict limit on the box size (3cm height) and the items sold were complete
sets.
The size in the Bricklink catalogue is obviously larger.

Could that have been the issue?

Is there any way to debug these kind of things? Like making a fake order in my
shop?


Thanks,
Peter
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: May 5, 2024 17:34
 Subject: Re: How does bulk pricing work?
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  You want me to check something in your store?

Try this lot:
https://store.bricklink.com/Ziegelmeister?p=Ziegelmeister&itemID=351524612#/shop

The lot I'm working on is 15 of the
 
Set No: 40686  Name: Trade Federation Troop Carrier
* 
40686-1 (Inv) Trade Federation Troop Carrier
222 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2024
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1
. Working with a buyer on
a rate for all of them and the numbers should have been pretty close to the 10+
tier price. They're reserved now so I don't think you can see those.

Seems to work as I thought

Thanks for checking.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 5, 2024 14:50
 Subject: Re: How does bulk pricing work?
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In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  You want me to check something in your store?

Try this lot:
https://store.bricklink.com/Ziegelmeister?p=Ziegelmeister&itemID=351524612#/shop

The lot I'm working on is 15 of the
 
Set No: 40686  Name: Trade Federation Troop Carrier
* 
40686-1 (Inv) Trade Federation Troop Carrier
222 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2024
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1
. Working with a buyer on
a rate for all of them and the numbers should have been pretty close to the 10+
tier price. They're reserved now so I don't think you can see those.

Seems to work as I thought
 
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: May 5, 2024 14:15
 Subject: Re: How does bulk pricing work?
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  You want me to check something in your store?

Try this lot:
https://store.bricklink.com/Ziegelmeister?p=Ziegelmeister&itemID=351524612#/shop

The lot I'm working on is 15 of the
 
Set No: 40686  Name: Trade Federation Troop Carrier
* 
40686-1 (Inv) Trade Federation Troop Carrier
222 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 2024
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1
. Working with a buyer on
a rate for all of them and the numbers should have been pretty close to the 10+
tier price. They're reserved now so I don't think you can see those.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 5, 2024 13:51
 Subject: Re: How does bulk pricing work?
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In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  If you have three tiers with the following prices:

base - 10¢
100 - 9¢
250 - 8¢
500 - 7¢

And someone orders 1000 of the lot, is the total cost $70.00 (since it's
over 500) or is it treated like tax brackets and the first 100 pieces go for
10¢, 100-250 go for 9¢, 250-500 go for 8¢ and everything else after that goes
for 7¢ for ~78.50?

Total cost is $70

That's what I would have though, I'm just seeing some inconsistent results.
Then again, I should recheck the math with the added decimal places.

You want me to check something in your store?
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: May 5, 2024 13:48
 Subject: Re: How does bulk pricing work?
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  If you have three tiers with the following prices:

base - 10¢
100 - 9¢
250 - 8¢
500 - 7¢

And someone orders 1000 of the lot, is the total cost $70.00 (since it's
over 500) or is it treated like tax brackets and the first 100 pieces go for
10¢, 100-250 go for 9¢, 250-500 go for 8¢ and everything else after that goes
for 7¢ for ~78.50?

Total cost is $70

That's what I would have though, I'm just seeing some inconsistent results.
Then again, I should recheck the math with the added decimal places.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 5, 2024 13:43
 Subject: Re: How does bulk pricing work?
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In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  If you have three tiers with the following prices:

base - 10¢
100 - 9¢
250 - 8¢
500 - 7¢

And someone orders 1000 of the lot, is the total cost $70.00 (since it's
over 500) or is it treated like tax brackets and the first 100 pieces go for
10¢, 100-250 go for 9¢, 250-500 go for 8¢ and everything else after that goes
for 7¢ for ~78.50?

Total cost is $70
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: May 5, 2024 13:20
 Subject: How does bulk pricing work?
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If you have three tiers with the following prices:

base - 10¢
100 - 9¢
250 - 8¢
500 - 7¢

And someone orders 1000 of the lot, is the total cost $70.00 (since it's
over 500) or is it treated like tax brackets and the first 100 pieces go for
10¢, 100-250 go for 9¢, 250-500 go for 8¢ and everything else after that goes
for 7¢ for ~78.50?
 Author: Amazingly View Messages Posted By Amazingly
 Posted: May 4, 2024 09:15
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, BrickDeals writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.

It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.

But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.

Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.

I particularly like this one that I came across with today:

In my store, I have no lot limit, or any other hidden fees. I only charge
$1.50 to cover handling and shipping supply costs (in addition to shipping cost)
plus 3.5% of total invoice value to cover my store's overhead cost. We will
not send missing items. We only refund their value.


I saw a store in the US that said 2.00 was added for things like bubble mailers,
tape, pens, stamps and even gas to get to the post office. The list had a lot
more but the stamps and Pens really had me laughing.
I don't understand how people do not put themselves in the buyers shoes.
If you are going to charge a fee like that you are better off not saying anything
at all.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: May 4, 2024 03:33
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, BrickDeals writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.

It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.

But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.

Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.

I particularly like this one that I came across with today:

In my store, I have no lot limit, or any other hidden fees. I only charge
$1.50 to cover handling and shipping supply costs (in addition to shipping cost)
plus 3.5% of total invoice value to cover my store's overhead cost. We will
not send missing items. We only refund their value.
 Author: BrickDeals View Messages Posted By BrickDeals
 Posted: May 4, 2024 03:13
 Subject: Re: Charging others for your PayPal fee
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Not only against Paypal terms, but it is illegal in California starting in July.

It isn't hard to simply add 3% to your store prices to cover the fee.

But sellers who tack the fee on later get the advantage in the price guide, which
I just consider to be dishonest.

Personally, I least favorite stores that do this, but I will continue to push
Bricklink to change to terms of the site to prohibit junk fees.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 15:38
 Subject: Re: Selling CMF's
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  It is possible to cut open a polybag and seal it again with tape. If you really
wanted to be neat, you can split them behind the flap on the back and it is almost
invisible. But they are still open and take up more space than putting in a ziplock
bag and most buyers buying a non-sealed set want it for the contents and not
the packet.

Honestly this is why I generally just part them out if I'm going to sell
them.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 15:37
 Subject: Re: Selling CMF's
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In Selling, Dhobeck writes:
  Have you had any problems shipping them in bubble envelopes?

I've not tried but I think you could fit 1 or 2
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 15:10
 Subject: Re: Selling CMF's
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, macebobo writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.

I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?

I just opened all of mine so I can note that one can open them with minimal damage
and use tape to re-seal (not to sell them as sealed, of course). I don't
think this is possible with a polybag.

It is possible to cut open a polybag and seal it again with tape. If you really
wanted to be neat, you can split them behind the flap on the back and it is almost
invisible. But they are still open and take up more space than putting in a ziplock
bag and most buyers buying a non-sealed set want it for the contents and not
the packet.
 Author: Dhobeck View Messages Posted By Dhobeck
 Posted: May 3, 2024 14:58
 Subject: Re: Selling CMF's
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, macebobo writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.

I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?

I just opened all of mine so I can note that one can open them with minimal damage
and use tape to re-seal (not to sell them as sealed, of course). I don't
think this is possible with a polybag.

Have you had any problems shipping them in bubble envelopes?
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 14:54
 Subject: Re: Selling CMF's
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In Selling, macebobo writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.

I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?

I just opened all of mine so I can note that one can open them with minimal damage
and use tape to re-seal (not to sell them as sealed, of course). I don't
think this is possible with a polybag.

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