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| | | Author: | Mesken  | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 15:35 | | Subject: | Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 127 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| Good evening BrickLink,
I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
Apparantly it is necessary to stick such a form to a envelope too, also if the
envelope only contains an instruction.
I decided to stop shipping envelope orders to the UK for now, because of the
risk of paying twice the shipment costs.
Cheers!
Henk
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 15:48 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | Good evening BrickLink,
I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
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Of course, CN22 or CN23 is mandatory...
It's Export, like shipping to China (but a bit nearer, and a very tad faster).
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| | | | | | | Author: | Mesken | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 16:14 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| You are right about that, but I bet 99% of stores don't put the required
forms on a small padded envelope. Just the weight (20 grams) of the CN22 form
and the required invoice makes a small order expensive and not interesting.
In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | Good evening BrickLink,
I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
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Of course, CN22 or CN23 is mandatory...
It's Export, like shipping to China (but a bit nearer, and a very tad faster).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 16:23 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | You are right about that, but I bet 99% of stores don't put the required
forms on a small padded envelope. Just the weight (20 grams) of the CN22 form
and the required invoice makes a small order expensive and not interesting.
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How then would you ship to Export a tiny shipment???
You don't need an Invoice for this; simply affix the CN22.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 16:39 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | You are right about that, but I bet 99% of stores don't put the required
forms on a small padded envelope. Just the weight (20 grams) of the CN22 form
and the required invoice makes a small order expensive and not interesting.
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How then would you ship to Export a tiny shipment???
You don't need an Invoice for this; simply affix the CN22.
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You need the UK VAT receipt though.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 17:41 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | You are right about that, but I bet 99% of stores don't put the required
forms on a small padded envelope. Just the weight (20 grams) of the CN22 form
and the required invoice makes a small order expensive and not interesting.
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How then would you ship to Export a tiny shipment???
You don't need an Invoice for this; simply affix the CN22.
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You need the UK VAT receipt though.
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That was to Export, not only UK, sorry.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 18:04 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | Good evening BrickLink,
I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
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Of course, CN22 or CN23 is mandatory...
It's Export, like shipping to China (but a bit nearer, and a very tad faster).
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The nearer bit I agree with. But the faster bit, I'm not so sure these days!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 19:12 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| | | | | | | I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
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Of course, CN22 or CN23 is mandatory...
It's Export, like shipping to China (but a bit nearer, and a very tad faster).
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The nearer bit I agree with. But the faster bit, I'm not so sure these days!
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Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
than 15 days FR to UK 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 19:25 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
than 15 days FR to UK
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You probably could have walked it there in that time!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 19:46 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, peregrinator writes:
| | In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
than 15 days FR to UK
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You probably could have walked it there in that time!
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But I'm not Moses! Walking the Channel Tunnel is forbidden
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 04:25 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Shipping, peregrinator writes:
| | In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
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(“Understanding.” “Comprehensive” = that contains everything. False friends,
Perfidious Albion….)
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You probably could have walked it there in that time!
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But I'm not Moses! Walking the Channel Tunnel is forbidden
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You can walk in the train: enter the train in the tail car and get out from the
head car.
You’ll go faster this way!
(That’s something that upsets me much, people doing that. Especially in ‘holiday’
trains. At least commuters have the excuse of wanting to be on time, and they
aren’t lugging giant suitcases and kids.)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 11:21 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Shipping, peregrinator writes:
| | In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
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(“Understanding.” “Comprehensive” = that contains everything. False friends,
Perfidious Albion….)
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Saint-Cloud Paris Match!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 11:32 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
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Saint-Cloud Paris Match!
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Mon grand-père disait « Saint-Cloud béret basque »
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WhiteHorseMatt | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 13:53 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
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Of course, CN22 or CN23 is mandatory...
It's Export, like shipping to China (but a bit nearer, and a very tad faster).
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The nearer bit I agree with. But the faster bit, I'm not so sure these days!
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Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
than 15 days FR to UK
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Crazy. My best is a package door to door UK to France in 36 hours pre brexit,
and that was just normal mail, not special delivery or anything.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
| | In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
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Of course, CN22 or CN23 is mandatory...
It's Export, like shipping to China (but a bit nearer, and a very tad faster).
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The nearer bit I agree with. But the faster bit, I'm not so sure these days!
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Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
than 15 days FR to UK
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Crazy. My best is a package door to door UK to France in 36 hours pre brexit,
and that was just normal mail, not special delivery or anything.
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A few months ago I shipped an untracked letter on a Monday and it was marked
as received on Friday by the UK buyer.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| | | | | | | Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
than 15 days FR to UK
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Crazy. My best is a package door to door UK to France in 36 hours pre brexit,
and that was just normal mail, not special delivery or anything.
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A few months ago I shipped an untracked letter on a Monday and it was marked
as received on Friday by the UK buyer.
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It must be because you're a Mod!
This is really unfair
No joke - yes it happens, but I'd say delays have doubled from here to UK
since they left; maybe it's normal... they're drifting away?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 15:05 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | Last Buyer I had in UK (comprehensive person BTW) was astonished it took more
than 15 days FR to UK
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Crazy. My best is a package door to door UK to France in 36 hours pre brexit,
and that was just normal mail, not special delivery or anything.
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A few months ago I shipped an untracked letter on a Monday and it was marked
as received on Friday by the UK buyer.
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It must be because you're a Mod!
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Must be it! You could say I Mod letters...
| | This is really unfair
No joke - yes it happens, but I'd say delays have doubled from here to UK
since they left; maybe it's normal... they're drifting away?
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This is an April 1st article I found:
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 15:21 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| | | This is an April 1st article I found:
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But it won't happen, they'll be sunk under the sea before, just like
Tuvalu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBBsv0QyscE
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 16:52 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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This is an April 1st article I found:
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It looks like part of the EU (Republic of Ireland) is going too.
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| | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 17:10 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | Good evening BrickLink,
I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
Apparantly it is necessary to stick such a form to a envelope too, also if the
envelope only contains an instruction.
I decided to stop shipping envelope orders to the UK for now, because of the
risk of paying twice the shipment costs.
Cheers!
Henk
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Just curious,
How would they know if the envelope contains sold goods like an insturction or
it is sent by a friend as a gift? (which does not need any CN22). A friend can
send some documents, letter,....
I sent an envelope only once that contained the flattened box of a small set
because I had forgotten to include it in the first package. It went through and
was delivered.
Otherwise, I did not know what to put as CN22 or CN23? How can I inform UK customs
that this was an item that was not sent in the first package and the buyer already
paid it?
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 17:44 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| | | How would they know if the envelope contains sold goods like an insturction or
it is sent by a friend as a gift? (which does not need any CN22). A friend can
send some documents, letter,....
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Gift, still needs a declaration IMO - like a CN22 with "Gift" checked.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 17:47 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | How would they know if the envelope contains sold goods like an insturction or
it is sent by a friend as a gift? (which does not need any CN22). A friend can
send some documents, letter,....
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Gift, still needs a declaration IMO - like a CN22 with "Gift" checked.
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Yeah, that’s how paperwork works: you need some paper to say you don’t need some
other papers
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 04:58 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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Yeah, that’s how paperwork works: you need some paper to say you don’t need some
other papers
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And that proves we as a species have taken several wrong turns in the past....
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2023 18:18 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | How would they know if the envelope contains sold goods like an insturction or
it is sent by a friend as a gift? (which does not need any CN22). A friend can
send some documents, letter,....
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Gift, still needs a declaration IMO - like a CN22 with "Gift" checked.
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In the post office, they didn't ask me to add any documents once I confirmed
it is just "paper".
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| | | | | | | Author: | Mesken | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 04:12 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| I know! Now it was an instruction, but perhaps it was a (huge) letter, do you
have to put a CN22 form on it then? Goods I get, but paperwork? Anyway, I updated
the shipment tarifs to our neighbouring country, it costs an additional stamp
to cover the weight of the paperwork.
In Shipping, SezaR writes:
| | In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | Good evening BrickLink,
I'd like to give stores a heads-up on sending an envelope to the United Kingdom.
The last orders by envelope gave problems, because of the lack of a CN22 form.
Apparantly it is necessary to stick such a form to a envelope too, also if the
envelope only contains an instruction.
I decided to stop shipping envelope orders to the UK for now, because of the
risk of paying twice the shipment costs.
Cheers!
Henk
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Just curious,
How would they know if the envelope contains sold goods like an insturction or
it is sent by a friend as a gift? (which does not need any CN22). A friend can
send some documents, letter,....
I sent an envelope only once that contained the flattened box of a small set
because I had forgotten to include it in the first package. It went through and
was delivered.
Otherwise, I did not know what to put as CN22 or CN23? How can I inform UK customs
that this was an item that was not sent in the first package and the buyer already
paid it?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 04:40 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, Mesken writes:
| | I know! Now it was an instruction, but perhaps it was a (huge) letter, do you
have to put a CN22 form on it then? Goods I get, but paperwork?
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Books are mostly paper too, but they are goods 
It’s not a question of matter, it’s a question of nature and intent. When you’re
sending a letter or some papers (a contract, forms…), you’re communicating.
That’s different from sending goods.
For instance, if I send you a letter to say “Hello from France!”, it’s just a
letter. But if you then sell that letter as a collectable (it has my very valuable
signature on it!) and send it, it will be goods.
And if I send my signed picture to my fans, it’s communicating, but if I ask
money for it (more than the shipping costs), it’s goods.
Intent is often the key.
Now, who wants my signed picture?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 11:24 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| | | Now, who wants my signed picture?
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If it’s your bl picture then sign me up!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 11:41 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | Now, who wants my signed picture?
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If it’s your bl picture then sign me up!
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Good choice,
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| In Shipping, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Shipping, Nubs_Select writes:
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If it’s your bl picture then sign me up!
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Good choice,
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screenshotted and saved forever
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 11, 2023 12:14 | | Subject: | Re: Envelope shipment to the UK | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Shipping | |
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| | Not fun!!! I just vomited in my Covid mask |
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