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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Sep 2, 2023 19:41
 Subject: USPS and APV
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 Topic: Shipping
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cosmicray (3492)

Location:  USA, Florida
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USPS has a postage/package verification scheme called APV. Sometimes it hiccups.
I had this happen a few weeks back, and they have since agreed with my dispute.
But why it happened is the more interesting question. Many of the boxes I use
are from ULine or are older USPS PM boxes that I am slowly working thru. All
of the current USPS PM boxes and the boxes I have from another box source, have
UPC bar codes on the bottoms. I am suspicious that APV is being fooled, by not
seeing a readable UPC barcode that will tell it what box was actually used, and
instead is seeing an adjacent box’s UPC, which may be for a totally different
rate (Ground vs PM flat rate).

Anyone have a newer USPS box (with Bar Code) that tripped APV as being the different
from the purchased postage ?

Nita Rae
 Author: metro2033 View Messages Posted By metro2033
 Posted: Sep 2, 2023 20:52
 Subject: Re: USPS and APV
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In Shipping, cosmicray writes:
  USPS has a postage/package verification scheme called APV. Sometimes it hiccups.
I had this happen a few weeks back, and they have since agreed with my dispute.
But why it happened is the more interesting question. Many of the boxes I use
are from ULine or are older USPS PM boxes that I am slowly working thru. All
of the current USPS PM boxes and the boxes I have from another box source, have
UPC bar codes on the bottoms. I am suspicious that APV is being fooled, by not
seeing a readable UPC barcode that will tell it what box was actually used, and
instead is seeing an adjacent box’s UPC, which may be for a totally different
rate (Ground vs PM flat rate).

Anyone have a newer USPS box (with Bar Code) that tripped APV as being the different
from the purchased postage ?

Nita Rae

Contact USPS or use official USPS boxes if you are using older USPS PM boxes
that may not have barcodes, consider using official USPS boxes that have up-to-date
information and can be better identified by the USPS system.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Sep 3, 2023 14:41
 Subject: Re: USPS and APV
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In Shipping, metro2033 writes:
  In Shipping, cosmicray writes:
  USPS has a postage/package verification scheme called APV. Sometimes it hiccups.
I had this happen a few weeks back, and they have since agreed with my dispute.
But why it happened is the more interesting question. Many of the boxes I use
are from ULine or are older USPS PM boxes that I am slowly working thru. All
of the current USPS PM boxes and the boxes I have from another box source, have
UPC bar codes on the bottoms. I am suspicious that APV is being fooled, by not
seeing a readable UPC barcode that will tell it what box was actually used, and
instead is seeing an adjacent box’s UPC, which may be for a totally different
rate (Ground vs PM flat rate).

Anyone have a newer USPS box (with Bar Code) that tripped APV as being the different
from the purchased postage ?

Nita Rae

Contact USPS or use official USPS boxes if you are using older USPS PM boxes
that may not have barcodes, consider using official USPS boxes that have up-to-date
information and can be better identified by the USPS system.

While that is a wonderful answer, some of the PM mailing boxes are is
sizes that are not available to the casual shipper. The local postmaster was
able to get several large orders of them back in 2005 & 2006. To do so, it required
a minimum order of 18 palettes. Many local shippers (myself included) filled
up pickup trucks and stashed them back for future use. The boxes are perfectly
legal for shipping, but they may not fit into the APV paradigm. I have no way
to replace them if I wanted to do so.

But that doesn’t address the boxes from ULine, and sizes that are not available
from other sources (e.g. 6x4x2 and 6x3x1). I use those almost daily, and they
are of recent vintage. ULine has not chosen to put UPC barcodes on their products
(that I am aware of).

Nita Rae