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| | Author: | Nevaeh | Posted: | Aug 26, 2023 20:24 | Subject: | Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 228 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| Anyone else upset about mystery minifigures being sold in box packs?
It's going to be a lot easier to get repeats. Maybe the value of full sets
and opened characters will be higher. Any thoughts?
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| | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Aug 26, 2023 20:29 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, Nevaeh writes:
| Anyone else upset about mystery minifigures being sold in box packs?
It's going to be a lot easier to get repeats. Maybe the value of full sets
and opened characters will be higher. Any thoughts?
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people have had luck using scales to weigh the packages to get the figure they
want
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| | | | | | Author: | Nevaeh | Posted: | Aug 26, 2023 20:32 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 71 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, Nubs_Select writes:
| In New Sets, Nevaeh writes:
| Anyone else upset about mystery minifigures being sold in box packs?
It's going to be a lot easier to get repeats. Maybe the value of full sets
and opened characters will be higher. Any thoughts?
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people have had luck using scales to weigh the packages to get the figure they
want
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| oh wow, that pretty cool.
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| | | | | | Author: | macebobo | Posted: | Aug 26, 2023 21:33 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, Nubs_Select writes:
| people have had luck using scales to weigh the packages to get the figure they want
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LOL. This is going to lead to an increase in folks taking their
to their favorite
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| | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Aug 26, 2023 21:34 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 69 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, macebobo writes:
| In New Sets, Nubs_Select writes:
| people have had luck using scales to weigh the packages to get the figure they want
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LOL. This is going to lead to an increase in folks taking their
to their favorite
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| | | | Author: | tEoS | Posted: | Aug 26, 2023 23:36 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 71 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| Yes, it was a bit frustrating. I found 10 different packet codes in a fresh
Marvel series 2 box, so I bought those. I ended up with 2 of Storm and 2 of
Goliath. I was hoping this method would yield 10 different figures out of 12.
Unfortunately, I didn't have a scale with me at the time and I was out of
town, so I have to wait until they stock the figures locally.
In New Sets, Nevaeh writes:
| Anyone else upset about mystery minifigures being sold in box packs?
It's going to be a lot easier to get repeats. Maybe the value of full sets
and opened characters will be higher. Any thoughts?
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| | | | Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 02:30 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 59 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, Nevaeh writes:
| Anyone else upset about mystery minifigures being sold in box packs?
It's going to be a lot easier to get repeats. Maybe the value of full sets
and opened characters will be higher. Any thoughts?
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I don't care, as I've nearly always opened them. And now they are essentially
random, it makes it harder for sellers to strip a store of the popular figures
by feeling them, leaving the less popular ones behind. So it is a good move from
that point of view. Not so good if you only want a specific figure, but at least
now these are essentially random as intended.
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| | | | | | Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 02:37 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 58 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
| In New Sets, Nevaeh writes:
| Anyone else upset about mystery minifigures being sold in box packs?
It's going to be a lot easier to get repeats. Maybe the value of full sets
and opened characters will be higher. Any thoughts?
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I don't care, as I've nearly always opened them. And now they are essentially
random, it makes it harder for sellers to strip a store of the popular figures
by feeling them, leaving the less popular ones behind. So it is a good move from
that point of view. Not so good if you only want a specific figure, but at least
now these are essentially random as intended.
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If they are essentially random I hope the distribution is even. Feeling through
the packets sometimes got me the minifigure I was after. I still ended up with
lots of duplicates because my fingers aren't as sensitive as they should
be.
With box weights, I suppose I'll have to go and find a scale to lug around.
Great, more excess baggage I have to cart around to find that one last minifigure
I'm after!
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 02:51 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 72 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| | If they are essentially random I hope the distribution is even. Feeling through
the packets sometimes got me the minifigure I was after. I still ended up with
lots of duplicates because my fingers aren't as sensitive as they should
be.
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They have been equally distributed for some time now. Sealed cartons contain
three sets. So if you are first to a box, then then each character should be
evenly distributed. Whereas if you get to a box where someone has weighed them,
there is a possibility that someone has removed popular ones for resale or
their collection. That is less likely to happen now there is a more significant
barrier compared to the feeling approach of identifying them.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | WhiteHorseMatt | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 06:09 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 63 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
| | If they are essentially random I hope the distribution is even. Feeling through
the packets sometimes got me the minifigure I was after. I still ended up with
lots of duplicates because my fingers aren't as sensitive as they should
be.
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They have been equally distributed for some time now. Sealed cartons contain
three sets. So if you are first to a box, then then each character should be
evenly distributed. Whereas if you get to a box where someone has weighed them,
there is a possibility that someone has removed popular ones for resale or
their collection. That is less likely to happen now there is a more significant
barrier compared to the feeling approach of identifying them.
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I still miss the first two series, where you could memorise the barcode pattern
and get what you want.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 08:40 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 54 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
| In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
| | If they are essentially random I hope the distribution is even. Feeling through
the packets sometimes got me the minifigure I was after. I still ended up with
lots of duplicates because my fingers aren't as sensitive as they should
be.
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They have been equally distributed for some time now. Sealed cartons contain
three sets. So if you are first to a box, then then each character should be
evenly distributed. Whereas if you get to a box where someone has weighed them,
there is a possibility that someone has removed popular ones for resale or
their collection. That is less likely to happen now there is a more significant
barrier compared to the feeling approach of identifying them.
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I still miss the first two series, where you could memorise the barcode pattern
and get what you want.
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I think I still have the Spartan's barcode encoded in my brain. The same
with the bump codes for S3 onwards.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 15:09 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 66 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
| ghyde writes (Fixing an unattributed quotation from me, because a line got clipped incorrectly, not worried about it.):
| If they are essentially random I hope the distribution is even. Feeling through
the packets sometimes got me the minifigure I was after. I still ended up with
lots of duplicates because my fingers aren't as sensitive as they should
be.
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They have been equally distributed for some time now. Sealed cartons contain
three sets. So if you are first to a box, then then each character should be
evenly distributed. Whereas if you get to a box where someone has weighed them,
there is a possibility that someone has removed popular ones for resale or
their collection. That is less likely to happen now there is a more significant
barrier compared to the feeling approach of identifying them.
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The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them. They've used some codes that only
show up in certain kinds of light, I forget if it's UV or infrared or some
bump code only a machine could properly recognize.
Figure that out and one should get all of the Collectible Minifigs rather easily.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 15:30 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 51 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, ghyde writes:
| The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.
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Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 15:42 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 52 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, axaday writes:
| In New Sets, ghyde writes:
| The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.
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Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.
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I don't buy that theory at all. It's not how TLG operates their production
lines.
It's a known fact that TLG use a production code system that ensures that
they can trace all of their production. What makes you think they'd stop
doing that?
Their warehousing system has to know where everything is stored, anyway. So there's
an identification system they're using that is so good that they can even
send out employees to fix production errors that made it out to sets in stores.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 17:24 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 61 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, axaday writes:
| In New Sets, ghyde writes:
| The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.
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Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.
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If they really wanted to they could hide a code number in plain sight. For example,
they could have a 16 digit code or barcode randomly assigned to each box, to
confuse people trying to work out their system. Then have the identity as the
9th then 3rd digits, so 7420790518442651 could be a code hiding the identity
that it is number 12 in the series.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 19:48 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
| In New Sets, axaday writes:
| In New Sets, ghyde writes:
| The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.
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Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.
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If they really wanted to they could hide a code number in plain sight. For example,
they could have a 16 digit code or barcode randomly assigned to each box, to
confuse people trying to work out their system. Then have the identity as the
9th then 3rd digits, so 7420790518442651 could be a code hiding the identity
that it is number 12 in the series.
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For sure they had to use some identification code to store it in their warehouse.
Perhaps nobody will discover it.
Hopefully I'll find a complete set, or maybe I'll buy them on BrickLink,
if the prices aren't bananas level high for one. I'm not sure yet.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 20:19 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 66 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| I promise they are not going to mix them together and then resort individual
boxes to go in the case. That’s a nightmare. If they spend any significant time
packed in the Minifig boxes but not yet in cases, they do it in a bin or hopper
of all the same one. The bin can have Goliath or any QR code they wish writ large
on the side.
In New Sets, ghyde writes:
| In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
| In New Sets, axaday writes:
| In New Sets, ghyde writes:
| The packaging machines and the employees running them would have had to know
which minifigure would go into each box and sealed carton, so there has to be
some kind of method of identifying them.
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Each figure would be packaged by separate machines and those packaged figures
would be brought separately to the machine that packs them in the case. So to
the extent that the packing machine "identifies" them, it would do so
by the place they were coming in.
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If they really wanted to they could hide a code number in plain sight. For example,
they could have a 16 digit code or barcode randomly assigned to each box, to
confuse people trying to work out their system. Then have the identity as the
9th then 3rd digits, so 7420790518442651 could be a code hiding the identity
that it is number 12 in the series.
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For sure they had to use some identification code to store it in their warehouse.
Perhaps nobody will discover it.
Hopefully I'll find a complete set, or maybe I'll buy them on BrickLink,
if the prices aren't bananas level high for one. I'm not sure yet.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ghyde | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 23:05 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 75 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, axaday writes:
| I promise they are not going to mix them together and then resort individual
boxes to go in the case. That’s a nightmare. If they spend any significant time
packed in the Minifig boxes but not yet in cases, they do it in a bin or hopper
of all the same one. The bin can have Goliath or any QR code they wish writ large
on the side.
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TLG decide in advance what combinations will be in the cases. They certainly
will have a means of tracking them. Logistics storage systems are designed for
that kind of seemingly random packaging.
It would therefore have some logical order to it.
If they really went random, as you state, that would be a logistical nightmare
for them to keep track of. Far better for them to pack combinations of three
boxes in a prearranged order.
It's like any kind of prize giveaway. The prize coordinators know exactly
what prizes will be given out and in what quantity, and even keep track of where
they are going.
This is what TLG are doing. It all is in a logical order. There's no real
randomness to it.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | Posted: | Aug 28, 2023 07:18 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 275 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, ghyde writes:
| If they really went random, as you state
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I didn't. I don't think we are connecting here.
What I'm saying is that the individual minifig boxes do not need to have
any identifying mark for LEGO to keep them straight. No individual assembly
line is going to be putting Goliath into a box and then She-Hulk and then Moon
Knight. A line is going to be dedicated to one minifig and everything coming
from that line will be the same. Whether those go from there straight to the
line that packs them into the cases or they have intermediate storage, they can
easily be kept straight with no individual marking because they are going to
go to a place that only that minifig would go. A big wheeled bin or hopper that
can be labelled for all of them. Then the last machine just has to be fed 3
from each bin or hopper to pack the case.
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| | | | | | Author: | Nevaeh | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 09:14 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 74 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, yorbrick writes:
| In New Sets, Nevaeh writes:
| Anyone else upset about mystery minifigures being sold in box packs?
It's going to be a lot easier to get repeats. Maybe the value of full sets
and opened characters will be higher. Any thoughts?
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I don't care, as I've nearly always opened them. And now they are essentially
random, it makes it harder for sellers to strip a store of the popular figures
by feeling them, leaving the less popular ones behind. So it is a good move from
that point of view. Not so good if you only want a specific figure, but at least
now these are essentially random as intended.
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| Yeah, that's how my siblings and I felt, until we got three Jays and 2 Garmodons. So frustrating.
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| | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | Posted: | Aug 27, 2023 22:46 | Subject: | Re: Mystery Minifigure Cardboard Boxes | Viewed: | 66 times | Topic: | New Sets | |
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| In New Sets, Nevaeh writes:
| Anyone else upset about mystery minifigures being sold in box packs?
It's going to be a lot easier to get repeats. Maybe the value of full sets
and opened characters will be higher. Any thoughts?
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I think it's a bad decision. As someone who isn't a serious collector
of them, but merely buys the ones I like, I find this very annoying. I most likely
will buy them from Bricklink from now on as I don't want to spend extra money
buying ones I don't want.
btw, the mario series has already been done in boxes. Know what I saw when I
went to Walmart. Every single one of them torn in one way or another so that
you could see the bag inside with the pieces. I have a feeling that's all
this new method will accomplish.
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