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 Author: Algold721 View Messages Posted By Algold721
 Posted: Jan 20, 2023 17:37
 Subject: Is it ok to use wood base?
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Algold721 (25)

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Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?
 Author: BricksOfFaith View Messages Posted By BricksOfFaith
 Posted: Jan 20, 2023 17:41
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In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?

I really kind of depends on the reason for making this model! are you in a competition,
designing for Lego Ideas, making instructions for rebrickable? These would all
be extremely against it and I highly doubt you’d be allowed.

If it’s for Personal use, I’d say definitely do it for money reasons lol
 Author: C0lsanders_ View Messages Posted By C0lsanders_
 Posted: Jan 20, 2023 17:42
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My own 2 cents is do what you're comfortable with. Lots of hobbyists would
do as you suggest. If you'd rather stay a "purist", try Duplo. They
actually fit with standard Lego (so you can build on top of them), and are much
bigger for the cost.

Miles


In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?
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 Author: chetzler View Messages Posted By chetzler
 Posted: Jan 20, 2023 17:51
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In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?

If you don't want to "cheat", you could use DUPLO to build out the
rough shape
of the hill and then cover it with LEGO bricks. The dimensions of a DUPLO brick
are exactly twice that of a LEGO brick, ergo its volume is 8 times as large.
I know several builders who have done this.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Jan 20, 2023 17:51
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In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?

There are models at LEGOLAND parks that use steel for support so why not wood?
 Author: MidwestBrick View Messages Posted By MidwestBrick
 Posted: Jan 20, 2023 18:05
 Subject: Re: Is it ok to use wood base?
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In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?

You are your own judge, so do whatever it is gets the job done and makes you
happy.

Remember too that competitions don't start from the floor, they use a table
to start their displays. Your table might have a bump in it, nothing wrong with
that

best of luck and feel free to share pictures with the community here with the
progress or final model
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 21, 2023 00:59
 Subject: Re: Is it ok to use wood base?
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In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?

It depends what you are doing with it. If you are entering a competition and
the rules are genuine LEGO parts only then you should be disqualified for cheating.
If you are building at home, there is no LEGO police department that inspect
your usage and ban you from buying sets in future.

For that type of thing I use a hollow 'table' built from duplo 2x4s with
a 16x8 duplo plate on top covered in system 2x4 bricks. Incredibly strong but
large empty volume. It has the advantage that you don't need to measure and
cut perfect wood panels. If you don't get heights of a wooden substructure
perfect, then you may get cracks or stress in the bricks above where it joins
other levels.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jan 21, 2023 02:27
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In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?

For bigger builds that are not part of a competition: yes, very common.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/@BobBrickman
an entire LEGO city with elevations for which the base is made with wood.

For the mountain, the substructure can be made with bricks like
 
Part No: 60599  Name: Door, Frame 2 x 4 x 6
* 
60599 Door, Frame 2 x 4 x 6
Parts: Door, Frame
or
 
Part No: 91176  Name: Support 2 x 2 x 13 with 5 Pin Holes
* 
91176 Support 2 x 2 x 13 with 5 Pin Holes
Parts: Support
and alike, or DUPLO.
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: Jan 21, 2023 03:24
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In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?

If you have enough space, consider making some of it into a subterranean scene,
such as a cave or hollow in the hillside. There's no reason you can't
use up some of the space that would need bricks in it with miniature scenes inside
of it!

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: molten.brick View Messages Posted By molten.brick
 Posted: Jan 24, 2023 09:29
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Any, and all professional builders use an alternate material base.

In My Own Creation, Algold721 writes:
  Hi. Kind of new to the world of designing unique Lego models. I am designing
a Lego model that includes a large change in elevation (a large hill, basically).
Although I could build the substructure of the hill out of Lego bricks, it would
take a massive number of them and am trying to keep costs reasonable. I am thinking
of building a sub structure out of bass wood that would go underneath that section
of the model, with the ground in Lego bricks above it. (so from the outside,
it would look like it was 100% Lego). Is that considered cheating? Or is it
commonplace to build foundation supports out of non-Lego material?