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| | | Author: | SDF_Bricks  | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 11:07 | | Subject: | Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 164 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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| | | | | Author: | CZ_Colonel32 | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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I believe you could list it under specific lot, that it can be either light gray
or light bluish gray. Like if you are selling plate 1x1 rounds, however you wil
discourage most buyers. If you have a set that can either contain LG or LBG parts
the set itself must be listed as incomplete as per Bricklink seller terms of
service (because the ones in incorrect color are technically missing). Listing
this as a default in your store terms would be extremely unprofessional. In case
you are heaving problems distinguishing them, I would suggest that you invite
a friend with better vision over once in a while and ask him to look at the parts
you are uncertain about while you chat and drink.
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| | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 11:37 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, CZ_Colonel32 writes:
| | If you have a set that can either contain LG or LBG parts
the set itself must be listed as incomplete as per Bricklink seller terms of
service (because the ones in incorrect color are technically missing).
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There was at least one set that originally came with mixed parts (that is, some
parts were light gray and others were light bluish gray)
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickitty | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 11:54 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, CZ_Colonel32 writes:
| | If you have a set that can either contain LG or LBG parts
the set itself must be listed as incomplete as per Bricklink seller terms of
service (because the ones in incorrect color are technically missing).
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There was at least one set that originally came with mixed parts (that is, some
parts were light gray and others were light bluish gray)
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Yeah, I bought a 25-lb lot years ago that was mostly a fairly complete 10030
UCS Imperial Star Destroyer. It definitely had a mix of new and old grays, based
on some parts that were specifically from that set. But when I found another
partially sealed 10030 in another lot, it was 100% old grays.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Jan 17, 2023 16:53 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I became a ninja level LBG old gray expert after parting out a mixed 10030. One
of the worst things LEGO has done. I had this built and it never looked good
to me because of the mix of grays.
I use a couple of gooseneck lamps with daylight LEDs, as you said in your other
thread post.
In General, Brickitty writes:
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Yeah, I bought a 25-lb lot years ago that was mostly a fairly complete 10030
UCS Imperial Star Destroyer. It definitely had a mix of new and old grays, based
on some parts that were specifically from that set. But when I found another
partially sealed 10030 in another lot, it was 100% old grays.
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| | | | | Author: | Fenneke_Jose | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 11:24 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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It would be a no go. I sell a lot of Castle Sets from the 80's and 90's.
If I would replace missing parts by Bley (light bluish grey), I think I would
get a lot of complaints!
You could also sell them as a bulk lot for a nice price and add a note that it
could be either colours in it.
Kind regards,
José
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 11:38 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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You could possibly list them and add a note that you can’t tell which gray version
it is perhaps
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| | | | | Author: | Brickitty | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 11:40 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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Buy daylight-rated LED bulbs. Practice. Turn parts over to look at the underside
if it seems like sun damage. Put all Light Gray/Light Bluish Gray into a pile
and pick out the ones that stand out. There are many strategies, and selling
Lego isn't always easy. Sometimes you gotta put in a little extra work or
time, but that's what it takes to be a responsible seller.
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| | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 11:43 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| +1
Looking at the parts in different light helps.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Darth_Smithy | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 12:26 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, WoutR writes:
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Looking at the parts in different light helps.
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Given how close they are, the light grey to bluish grey change. was just a bad
idea.
Lightly yellowed bley can be a perfect match for grey sometimes.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SDF_Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 12:28 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Brickitty writes:
| | In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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Buy daylight-rated LED bulbs. Practice. Turn parts over to look at the underside
if it seems like sun damage. Put all Light Gray/Light Bluish Gray into a pile
and pick out the ones that stand out. There are many strategies, and selling
Lego isn't always easy. Sometimes you gotta put in a little extra work or
time, but that's what it takes to be a responsible seller.
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The large parts are not a problem. The real issue is with small parts such as
small gears and Technic bushings. What I did was align all the parts and stack
them in rows, but still, sometimes under full sun I can separate them, but any
indoor light is not good enough.
Are there any indoor lights (amazon link) that would make identification easier?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Shiny_Stuff | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 14:45 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | In General, Brickitty writes:
| | In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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Buy daylight-rated LED bulbs. Practice. Turn parts over to look at the underside
if it seems like sun damage. Put all Light Gray/Light Bluish Gray into a pile
and pick out the ones that stand out. There are many strategies, and selling
Lego isn't always easy. Sometimes you gotta put in a little extra work or
time, but that's what it takes to be a responsible seller.
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The large parts are not a problem. The real issue is with small parts such as
small gears and Technic bushings. What I did was align all the parts and stack
them in rows, but still, sometimes under full sun I can separate them, but any
indoor light is not good enough.
Are there any indoor lights (amazon link) that would make identification easier?
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Tiny parts can be troublesome under any artificial light. It helps to have a
whole pile of them and then pick out the ones that don't match the rest.
A magnifier of some kind can help, too.
To compare colors, I use PLATES as reference. On a 6 x 12 White plate, I have
2 x 8 plates of the two grays, both bleys, old brown and reddish brown. That
does the job very well for me.
As for the variation that exists within the SAME color -- well, you just
have to decide if the variation is normal or due to discoloration. I usually
go with the idea of "When in doubt, toss it out" (or keep for myself
to build with).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickitty | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 15:32 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
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The large parts are not a problem. The real issue is with small parts such as
small gears and Technic bushings. What I did was align all the parts and stack
them in rows, but still, sometimes under full sun I can separate them, but any
indoor light is not good enough.
Are there any indoor lights (amazon link) that would make identification easier?
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If you're not familiar with the standard color temperatures of bulbs, check
out the image I attached that I found with a quick Google search.
Basically, the yellower/warmer the light, the harder it is to identify color
differences - especially Light Gray vs. Light Bluish Gray, since the main difference
is a yellower tint to Light Gray parts. So warmer light will obviously mess with
your ability to differentiate them. (Tangential to this discussion, but warmer
light also makes it more difficult to spot part imperfections and damage, for
the same reason that people generally use it for pleasant indoor settings - it
hides small skin blemishes, wrinkles, etc. while cooler light shows them. That's
why people look better and healthier in pictures taken under warm light.)
So you want to use at least Cool White bulbs, but Daylight is preferable. You
definitely need multiple light sources, not just one - preferably at least four
for a small room, or six or eight light sources for a larger room. If your
room looks uncomfortably white and bright after you've installed them, almost
like you're in a lab or hospital, you've succeeded. Bonus - it'll
also keep you alert and awake for your work.
I use 5000k LED daylight bulbs, but my bulbs are non-standard and won't fit
most lights. A search on Amazon using those keywords will bring up what you need.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SDF_Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 19:24 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Brickitty writes:
| | In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
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The large parts are not a problem. The real issue is with small parts such as
small gears and Technic bushings. What I did was align all the parts and stack
them in rows, but still, sometimes under full sun I can separate them, but any
indoor light is not good enough.
Are there any indoor lights (amazon link) that would make identification easier?
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If you're not familiar with the standard color temperatures of bulbs, check
out the image I attached that I found with a quick Google search.
Basically, the yellower/warmer the light, the harder it is to identify color
differences - especially Light Gray vs. Light Bluish Gray, since the main difference
is a yellower tint to Light Gray parts. So warmer light will obviously mess with
your ability to differentiate them. (Tangential to this discussion, but warmer
light also makes it more difficult to spot part imperfections and damage, for
the same reason that people generally use it for pleasant indoor settings - it
hides small skin blemishes, wrinkles, etc. while cooler light shows them. That's
why people look better and healthier in pictures taken under warm light.)
So you want to use at least Cool White bulbs, but Daylight is preferable. You
definitely need multiple light sources, not just one - preferably at least four
for a small room, or six or eight light sources for a larger room. If your
room looks uncomfortably white and bright after you've installed them, almost
like you're in a lab or hospital, you've succeeded. Bonus - it'll
also keep you alert and awake for your work.
I use 5000k LED daylight bulbs, but my bulbs are non-standard and won't fit
most lights. A search on Amazon using those keywords will bring up what you need.
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Thank you very much. That's exactly the kind of information I need. *Cheers*
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| | | | | Author: | RedTardis | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 12:56 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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Same issue here. I have a fair amount of what I believe (lol) is light grey and
dark grey. I've had it for a few years now. And for the simple reason of
not wanting to sell wrong colors to customers, I've decided to no not sell
any at all, and keep it for myself.
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| | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2023 15:10 | | Subject: | Re: Gray vs. Bluish Gray | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SDF_Bricks writes:
| | I'm having a very hard time separating the light gray from bluish light gray,
especially on very small parts. Plus, I'm discovering that even within such
two colors, there are often color variations and/or yellowing due to sun exposure.
Would potential buyers really object if a given set ahs mixed colors or is that
a no-no ?
What's your experience?
The dark gray and bluish gray are much easier to discern.
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Light gray is more yellowish, while light bluish gray is more bluish.
It helps to have good lighting. Use natural sunlight if possible, if not LED
light works well. You can buy an LED desk lamp fairly cheap. If you are not sure
about some parts, maybe compare then under different light.
It also helps if you have some known LG and LBG parts to compare to.
Some parts only come in one or the other, so you can check the BrickLink catalog
to help with identification.
I would refrain from mixing the two grays in used sets as it will be very noticeable
to some buyers. Try to stay true to the BrickLink inventory; maybe add a note
if you can't tell the colors apart.
Good luck! 
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