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| | | Author: | oasis  | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2023 09:55 | | Subject: | VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 159 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2023 09:59 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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Did you include the digital IOSS when purchasing the shipping label?
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | alexwilcox | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2023 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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You need to submit the IOSS number to customs before the package arrives - normally
done when you purchase shipping.
I know in the UK this does not work if you purchase at the post office - you
need to purchase the postage online.
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2023 10:58 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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As well as the IOSS, for Germany you need to comply with their packaging recycling
laws.
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| | | | | Author: | manganschlamm | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2023 14:23 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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Maybe he had to pay customs fees and processing fee. This happens to me all the
time. BL collects VAT, then I pay customs fees and a lump processing fee of 6
Euro on top. Germany wants to discourage ordering from outside the EU I supposed.
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| | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2023 15:16 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| Did you use PayPal for the shipping label?
In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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| | | | | Author: | DustyFuzzyDragn | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 02:57 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| A month late here, but having just been hit myself with a double VAT, it's
important that not only the IOSS number is registered, but also that an HS number
is provided for all items declared - it will otherwise be rejected.
Basically, the postal service or courier will only avoid charging if the IOSS
entry is complete, and their system can handle all the paperwork automatically
- if a human is going to need to find the appropriate HS code, or any other manual
work, they'll just ignore the IOSS entry and do everything manually, and
charge appropriately.
That being said, if the customer has paid VAT when receiving it, BrickLink needs
to refund the VAT they collected. Who knows how to get that done.
In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 03:02 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, DustyFuzzyDragn writes:
| | A month late here, but having just been hit myself with a double VAT, it's
important that not only the IOSS number is registered, but also that an HS number
is provided for all items declared - it will otherwise be rejected.
Basically, the postal service or courier will only avoid charging if the IOSS
entry is complete, and their system can handle all the paperwork automatically
- if a human is going to need to find the appropriate HS code, or any other manual
work, they'll just ignore the IOSS entry and do everything manually, and
charge appropriately.
That being said, if the customer has paid VAT when receiving it, BrickLink needs
to refund the VAT they collected. Who knows how to get that done.
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For some reason I remember hearing it’s the other way around. If bricklink charges
tax and customs charges charges tax you need to do the legal stuff with the government
to get it back and it dosnt involve bricklink
| | In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | DustyFuzzyDragn | | Posted: | Feb 17, 2023 03:19 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | For some reason I remember hearing it’s the other way around. If bricklink charges
tax and customs charges charges tax you need to do the legal stuff with the government
to get it back and it dosnt involve bricklink
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The Swedish Tax Agency thinks otherwise, to cite it, in the section regarding
paying too much VAT on IOSS packages, translated: "In situations where you've
paid VAT twice, once at the time of purchase and once when the item arrived in
Sweden, you need to contact the web store to get the VAT you paid at the time
of purchase refunded."
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | stevetq2 | | Posted: | Jun 10, 2023 05:12 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| This new system of collecting VAT by BrickLink (and other websites) is NOT working
and EVERYONE is losing business mainly due to the EU not doing their job properly.
I've followed ALL the rules using Royal Mail's electronic shipping systems
but EU buyers are still getting charged VAT again on arrival of their package.
The EU is only interested in adding more bureaucracy and making trade more difficult,
which has helped it into recession. I will not be selling to the EU again until
there is proof the systems are working properly; so probably never.
Steve
In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, DustyFuzzyDragn writes:
| | A month late here, but having just been hit myself with a double VAT, it's
important that not only the IOSS number is registered, but also that an HS number
is provided for all items declared - it will otherwise be rejected.
Basically, the postal service or courier will only avoid charging if the IOSS
entry is complete, and their system can handle all the paperwork automatically
- if a human is going to need to find the appropriate HS code, or any other manual
work, they'll just ignore the IOSS entry and do everything manually, and
charge appropriately.
That being said, if the customer has paid VAT when receiving it, BrickLink needs
to refund the VAT they collected. Who knows how to get that done.
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For some reason I remember hearing it’s the other way around. If bricklink charges
tax and customs charges charges tax you need to do the legal stuff with the government
to get it back and it dosnt involve bricklink
| | In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PaulOfBricks | | Posted: | Jun 12, 2023 15:24 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, stevetq2 writes:
| | This new system of collecting VAT by BrickLink (and other websites) is NOT working
and EVERYONE is losing business mainly due to the EU not doing their job properly.
I've followed ALL the rules using Royal Mail's electronic shipping systems
but EU buyers are still getting charged VAT again on arrival of their package.
The EU is only interested in adding more bureaucracy and making trade more difficult,
which has helped it into recession. I will not be selling to the EU again until
there is proof the systems are working properly; so probably never.
Steve
In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Taxes, DustyFuzzyDragn writes:
| | A month late here, but having just been hit myself with a double VAT, it's
important that not only the IOSS number is registered, but also that an HS number
is provided for all items declared - it will otherwise be rejected.
Basically, the postal service or courier will only avoid charging if the IOSS
entry is complete, and their system can handle all the paperwork automatically
- if a human is going to need to find the appropriate HS code, or any other manual
work, they'll just ignore the IOSS entry and do everything manually, and
charge appropriately.
That being said, if the customer has paid VAT when receiving it, BrickLink needs
to refund the VAT they collected. Who knows how to get that done.
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For some reason I remember hearing it’s the other way around. If bricklink charges
tax and customs charges charges tax you need to do the legal stuff with the government
to get it back and it dosnt involve bricklink
| | In Taxes, oasis writes:
| | First time with a VAT problem, don't know where to file for help.
US order, German customer, BL collected VAT, but customer had to pay again when
picking up the package. I'm sending him a copy of the VAT form that was on
the package.
Thanks for any tips.
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I just thought I'd check this IOSS situation again after about 9month of
not selling to the EU,
I was hoping it would be resolved by now
It's so frustrating!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 12, 2023 15:37 | | Subject: | Re: VAT collected twice | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, PaulOfBricks writes:
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I just thought I'd check this IOSS situation again after about 9month of
not selling to the EU,
I was hoping it would be resolved by now
It's so frustrating!
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It IS resolved, somehow, but apparently not on BrickLink: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1413900
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