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| | | Author: | rab1234  | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 20:19 | | Subject: | Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 405 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 20:22 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
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| | | | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 20:31 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I guess bricklink could add a new way to report problem orders:
“I suspect I was sent used instead of new items”
If a seller exceeds some predetermined % of complaints vs total orders, they
face consequences. Integrity of the platform would seem to be important, but
maybe I’m just feeling annoyed others can charge 5x what I do for literally a
figure they buy from me.
In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
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| | | | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 21:55 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
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Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 21:58 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
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Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
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trust me the ones I'm talking about were very used (cracks, bitemarks, "dirt",
etc) but yes there is a balance. new parts to some extent all have wear. usually
its very minor but most of us have seen a few parts we take out of a new set
that only belong in the garbage can
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 23:53 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
|
Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
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trust me the ones I'm talking about were very used (cracks, bitemarks, "dirt",
etc) but yes there is a balance. new parts to some extent all have wear. usually
its very minor but most of us have seen a few parts we take out of a new set
that only belong in the garbage can
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Agree. Sorry I just mean some sellers may not know their inventory was flawed.
When I got 500 torsos all with fine scratches, I didn't think they were used.
But if I bought just a few, I probably did.
We got our share from new lego sets, from broken to misprint. Just found a set
of alphabet. From the misprint, I'd say there are 2 M and 1 W. 😜
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 23:57 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
|
there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
|
Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
|
trust me the ones I'm talking about were very used (cracks, bitemarks, "dirt",
etc) but yes there is a balance. new parts to some extent all have wear. usually
its very minor but most of us have seen a few parts we take out of a new set
that only belong in the garbage can
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Agree. Sorry I just mean some sellers may not know their inventory was flawed.
When I got 500 torsos all with fine scratches, I didn't think they were used.
But if I bought just a few, I probably did.
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No worries, yah sometimes it can be difficult to tell
| | We got our share from new lego sets, from broken to misprint. Just found a set
of alphabet. From the misprint, I'd say there are 2 M and 1 W. 😜
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | uvt203 | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 05:29 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
|
there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
|
Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
|
trust me the ones I'm talking about were very used (cracks, bitemarks, "dirt",
etc) but yes there is a balance. new parts to some extent all have wear. usually
its very minor but most of us have seen a few parts we take out of a new set
that only belong in the garbage can
|
Agree. Sorry I just mean some sellers may not know their inventory was flawed.
When I got 500 torsos all with fine scratches, I didn't think they were used.
But if I bought just a few, I probably did.
We got our share from new lego sets, from broken to misprint. Just found a set
of alphabet. From the misprint, I'd say there are 2 M and 1 W. 😜
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It is similar to buying M & M's. Around 50% of them are falsified as they
clearly show 'W'......
/Asger
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 10:14 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, uvt203 writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
|
there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
|
Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
|
trust me the ones I'm talking about were very used (cracks, bitemarks, "dirt",
etc) but yes there is a balance. new parts to some extent all have wear. usually
its very minor but most of us have seen a few parts we take out of a new set
that only belong in the garbage can
|
Agree. Sorry I just mean some sellers may not know their inventory was flawed.
When I got 500 torsos all with fine scratches, I didn't think they were used.
But if I bought just a few, I probably did.
We got our share from new lego sets, from broken to misprint. Just found a set
of alphabet. From the misprint, I'd say there are 2 M and 1 W. 😜
|
It is similar to buying M & M's. Around 50% of them are falsified as they
clearly show 'W'......
/Asger
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You didn't get it 😆. When printed perfectly centered, M and W looks the
same. For that misprinted set, all letters shifted to top, you can tell 2 Ms
and 1 W 🙃🙂
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 10:26 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, uvt203 writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
|
there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
|
Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
|
trust me the ones I'm talking about were very used (cracks, bitemarks, "dirt",
etc) but yes there is a balance. new parts to some extent all have wear. usually
its very minor but most of us have seen a few parts we take out of a new set
that only belong in the garbage can
|
Agree. Sorry I just mean some sellers may not know their inventory was flawed.
When I got 500 torsos all with fine scratches, I didn't think they were used.
But if I bought just a few, I probably did.
We got our share from new lego sets, from broken to misprint. Just found a set
of alphabet. From the misprint, I'd say there are 2 M and 1 W. 😜
|
It is similar to buying M & M's. Around 50% of them are falsified as they
clearly show 'W'......
/Asger
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You didn't get it 😆. When printed perfectly centered, M and W looks the
same. For that misprinted set, all letters shifted to top, you can tell 2 Ms
and 1 W 🙃🙂
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Here you go.😵💫
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:14 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, uvt203 writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
|
there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
|
Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
|
trust me the ones I'm talking about were very used (cracks, bitemarks, "dirt",
etc) but yes there is a balance. new parts to some extent all have wear. usually
its very minor but most of us have seen a few parts we take out of a new set
that only belong in the garbage can
|
Agree. Sorry I just mean some sellers may not know their inventory was flawed.
When I got 500 torsos all with fine scratches, I didn't think they were used.
But if I bought just a few, I probably did.
We got our share from new lego sets, from broken to misprint. Just found a set
of alphabet. From the misprint, I'd say there are 2 M and 1 W. 😜
|
It is similar to buying M & M's. Around 50% of them are falsified as they
clearly show 'W'......
/Asger
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You didn't get it 😆. When printed perfectly centered, M and W looks the
same. For that misprinted set, all letters shifted to top, you can tell 2 Ms
and 1 W 🙃🙂
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Here you go.😵💫
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It is amazing that they are all badly aligned prints. I wonder if the consistent
offset across all of them means that these are printed as a complete set and
then bagged there and then.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Pokernut | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:40 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, uvt203 writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
|
there should defiantly be action taken against that. I've also on multiple
occasions ordered Minifigure parts (cant remember if it also figures) and received
clearly used parts
|
Not always. We had twice got scratched minifig torsos from the vey top feedback
store. Since our purchases were in 200 to 500 pieces, it's not likely they
are USED. They should check their inventory more careful though.
|
trust me the ones I'm talking about were very used (cracks, bitemarks, "dirt",
etc) but yes there is a balance. new parts to some extent all have wear. usually
its very minor but most of us have seen a few parts we take out of a new set
that only belong in the garbage can
|
Agree. Sorry I just mean some sellers may not know their inventory was flawed.
When I got 500 torsos all with fine scratches, I didn't think they were used.
But if I bought just a few, I probably did.
We got our share from new lego sets, from broken to misprint. Just found a set
of alphabet. From the misprint, I'd say there are 2 M and 1 W. 😜
|
It is similar to buying M & M's. Around 50% of them are falsified as they
clearly show 'W'......
/Asger
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You didn't get it 😆. When printed perfectly centered, M and W looks the
same. For that misprinted set, all letters shifted to top, you can tell 2 Ms
and 1 W 🙃🙂
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Here you go.😵💫
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And there was me thinking you had an M that had been rotated 180° ( I thought
M had straight legs and W has angled legs. )
On another note....did they use the N and rotate it 90° to produce the Z?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | On another note....did they use the N and rotate it 90° to produce the Z?
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No, the N and the Z are different shapes. The N would make a narrow Z, and the
Z a wide N, if rotated.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:51 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| But, if you're not a massive stickler for symmetry, it could be used for
either
In General, yorbrick writes:
| | | | On another note....did they use the N and rotate it 90° to produce the Z?
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No, the N and the Z are different shapes. The N would make a narrow Z, and the
Z a wide N, if rotated.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:55 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Symmetry is key - and a massive pain in the buttock.
In General, yorbrick writes:
| | | | On another note....did they use the N and rotate it 90° to produce the Z?
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No, the N and the Z are different shapes. The N would make a narrow Z, and the
Z a wide N, if rotated.
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| | | | | Author: | Brickitty | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 20:27 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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Indeed. It's a travesty. These sellers are nothing more than scammers, the
lowest of the low. I've been reporting the one with the tire brand in their
name repeatedly every few months, but nothing's ever done despite the fact
that it's patently obvious from literally over 100 feedback reports that
they regularly sell new figures as used. How much more evidence is needed? Get.
Them. Off. The. Site.
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| | | | | | | Author: | bahpstore | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 21:44 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Brickitty writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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Indeed. It's a travesty. These sellers are nothing more than scammers, the
lowest of the low. I've been reporting the one with the tire brand in their
name repeatedly every few months, but nothing's ever done despite the fact
that it's patently obvious from literally over 100 feedback reports that
they regularly sell new figures as used. How much more evidence is needed? Get.
Them. Off. The. Site.
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" the one with the tire brand in their name " LOL. Never deal with them but from
all the feedbacks they should be banned.
It's very bad practice, right after fake parts. Even with comments on the
part. We purchased some transparent parts with "has been in storage, may have
slight scratching." They turned out much worse and listed as USED in our store.
The store is on our least favorite list. You may get more money for one sale,
but your customers won't come back.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 22:40 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I don’t think I’ve seen that store before but wow that’s awful. They price their
“new” figs low enough that they actually sell and have so many figs listed that
they’re seriously impacting the price guide and market of both used and new figs.
Used listings have to drop their price to compete with the low “new” prices of
this store.
Embarrassing for bricklink.
In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Brickitty writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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Indeed. It's a travesty. These sellers are nothing more than scammers, the
lowest of the low. I've been reporting the one with the tire brand in their
name repeatedly every few months, but nothing's ever done despite the fact
that it's patently obvious from literally over 100 feedback reports that
they regularly sell new figures as used. How much more evidence is needed? Get.
Them. Off. The. Site.
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" the one with the tire brand in their name " LOL. Never deal with them but from
all the feedbacks they should be banned.
It's very bad practice, right after fake parts. Even with comments on the
part. We purchased some transparent parts with "has been in storage, may have
slight scratching." They turned out much worse and listed as USED in our store.
The store is on our least favorite list. You may get more money for one sale,
but your customers won't come back.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 12:04 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bahpstore writes:
| | In General, Brickitty writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
|
Indeed. It's a travesty. These sellers are nothing more than scammers, the
lowest of the low. I've been reporting the one with the tire brand in their
name repeatedly every few months, but nothing's ever done despite the fact
that it's patently obvious from literally over 100 feedback reports that
they regularly sell new figures as used. How much more evidence is needed? Get.
Them. Off. The. Site.
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" the one with the tire brand in their name " LOL. Never deal with them but from
all the feedbacks they should be banned.
It's very bad practice, right after fake parts. Even with comments on the
part. We purchased some transparent parts with "has been in storage, may have
slight scratching." They turned out much worse and listed as USED in our store.
The store is on our least favorite list. You may get more money for one sale,
but your customers won't come back.
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What I dont like is the fact that even though itsa goodyear for them, not so
good for all the people that leave them negative or neutral feedbacks. For
every negative / neutral FB's they receive they always leave a retaliatory
feedback. They leave retaliatory negative FB's even for all the neutrals
they receive. And when they know they made a mistake, like in one order where
they replied "Yes, we lost this order and apologized. Weve been moving and lifes
been rough. :/", and they still gave a retaliatory feedback.
Jim
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| | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 21:26 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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If you believe that a listing is improperly describing an item as "new" you can
report it through the Problem, Item for Sale page.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2022 21:29 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, calebfishn writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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If you believe that a listing is improperly describing an item as "new" you can
report it through the Problem, Item for Sale page.
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true true and if that continuously results in items being removed doesn't
the seller get banned or something
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 03:46 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
|
If before purchase, report and least favourite if you don't trust them. If
after purchase, complain direct, then NSS and PayPal complaint, then feedback.
| | I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
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That is not necessarily proof, especially if a single figure. I have quite a
large collection of new and never built older figures. If I'm going to use
one, I will check the values of a new one and a decent condition used one. If
the difference is large, I'll buy their used one and sell my new one. After
all, my new one was about to become used anyway, so I don't mind getting
a decent used one if new ones are hard to find and hence expensive.
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| | | | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 08:33 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Exactly... it's not "proof", but when combined with multiple buyers complaining
that they received used figures sold as new and a surprising number of ridiculously
hard to find "new" listings from 40 years ago, what are we supposed to think?
Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
|
If before purchase, report and least favourite if you don't trust them. If
after purchase, complain direct, then NSS and PayPal complaint, then feedback.
| | I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
|
That is not necessarily proof, especially if a single figure. I have quite a
large collection of new and never built older figures. If I'm going to use
one, I will check the values of a new one and a decent condition used one. If
the difference is large, I'll buy their used one and sell my new one. After
all, my new one was about to become used anyway, so I don't mind getting
a decent used one if new ones are hard to find and hence expensive.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 08:49 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | Exactly... it's not "proof", but when combined with multiple buyers complaining
that they received used figures sold as new and a surprising number of ridiculously
hard to find "new" listings from 40 years ago, what are we supposed to think?
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I think that is it - if they do it enough times and enough people notice and
care to comment about it, then proof builds up.
| | Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
|
Reports don't go anywhere unless BL believes them. If anyone reports a single
figure that is listed as new when they think it is used with no evidence, I doubt
BL would do anything. But if there is evidence like above, then I'd hope
they would start to take some notice. I don't think there is any harm in
reporting the store in such a case, you are not making the decision, BL staff
are. If there is evidence enough, they will act. If not, they won't. There
was that store that got reported for having lots of exclusive figures and they
acted there on the evidence supplied but let them back once the store provided
their evidence. Ideally, they should have asked the store for the evidence before
suspension, but it is what it is. If a store has parted out lots of new vintage
sets, presumably they'd have something associated with it (boxes, instructions,
parts). It might be that they parted them out years ago and have been in storage,
and there evidence might be harder to come across.
Of course, the other thing is for buyers to be more vigilant when ordering. If
multiple buyers are complaining of receiving used when buying new, chances are
others have been duped too, and you are next if you buy from that seller.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 09:00 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| |
Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
|
Don't know if it is still being done, but Amazon used to make test buys of
jewelry from third party sellers. I doubt BL would do that but it's the only
sure way to get proof.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 09:21 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, zorbanj writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| |
Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
|
Don't know if it is still being done, but Amazon used to make test buys of
jewelry from third party sellers. I doubt BL would do that but it's the only
sure way to get proof.
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I'm not sure that would actually be helpful in many cases - I've no doubt
that many used-sold-as-new minifigures here on BL actually look new. And isn't
it much more likely that a minifigure was displayed in a case for 30-40 years
than it was stored away?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 09:46 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Unfortunately the best way to prevent this is probably to change the definition
of "new" to only allow unassembled (with an exception for specific figures shipped
assembled). Wear on the neck is usually very obvious, but since that's not
the policy now, it would be very unfair to sellers who did assemble them, so
I don't think that can ever change.
I'm not sure if your comment about displaying a figure for 40 years was serious,
but I doubt almost anyone was displaying Lego figures 40 years ago.
Regardless, the only realistic way to list a 40 year old figure as new is if
you opened the box within the last 20 years *with the intent* to sell the figure
and did nothing else with it except put it into storage.
"taken directly from new sets... and have been handled only for sorting."
That's why it's so surprising to see so many classic castle figs listed
as new, and practically 0 of the sets (which could generate thousands of dollars)
listed as new.
In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, zorbanj writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| |
Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
|
Don't know if it is still being done, but Amazon used to make test buys of
jewelry from third party sellers. I doubt BL would do that but it's the only
sure way to get proof.
|
I'm not sure that would actually be helpful in many cases - I've no doubt
that many used-sold-as-new minifigures here on BL actually look new. And isn't
it much more likely that a minifigure was displayed in a case for 30-40 years
than it was stored away?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 10:03 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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Some figures come pre-assembled as new.
How about our consciousness as a whole.
I can see how some very early era minifigures could easily be listed as new -
but most aren't...
In General, rab1234 writes:
| | Unfortunately the best way to prevent this is probably to change the definition
of "new" to only allow unassembled (with an exception for specific figures shipped
assembled). Wear on the neck is usually very obvious, but since that's not
the policy now, it would be very unfair to sellers who did assemble them, so
I don't think that can ever change.
I'm not sure if your comment about displaying a figure for 40 years was serious,
but I doubt almost anyone was displaying Lego figures 40 years ago.
Regardless, the only realistic way to list a 40 year old figure as new is if
you opened the box within the last 20 years *with the intent* to sell the figure
and did nothing else with it except put it into storage.
"taken directly from new sets... and have been handled only for sorting."
That's why it's so surprising to see so many classic castle figs listed
as new, and practically 0 of the sets (which could generate thousands of dollars)
listed as new.
In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, zorbanj writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| |
Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
|
Don't know if it is still being done, but Amazon used to make test buys of
jewelry from third party sellers. I doubt BL would do that but it's the only
sure way to get proof.
|
I'm not sure that would actually be helpful in many cases - I've no doubt
that many used-sold-as-new minifigures here on BL actually look new. And isn't
it much more likely that a minifigure was displayed in a case for 30-40 years
than it was stored away?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:12 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, molten.brick writes:
| |
Some figures come pre-assembled as new.
How about our consciousness as a whole.
I can see how some very early era minifigures could easily be listed as new -
but most aren't...
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That one also comes sealed in a pod. There is no need to remove it from the pod
to sell it. So if it is removed from the pod, it could be classed as used.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| That is valued knowledge aswell. I could've Googled that, but had no time-investment/interest
in it.
In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, molten.brick writes:
| |
Some figures come pre-assembled as new.
How about our consciousness as a whole.
I can see how some very early era minifigures could easily be listed as new -
but most aren't...
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That one also comes sealed in a pod. There is no need to remove it from the pod
to sell it. So if it is removed from the pod, it could be classed as used.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:32 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | I'm not sure if your comment about displaying a figure for 40 years was serious,
but I doubt almost anyone was displaying Lego figures 40 years ago.
|
I think it's a lot more likely than someone putting a figure away for 40
years, or not opening a box at all.
Admittedly, this is just speculation, and not based on anything in my own experience.
When I think of what I was doing to minifigures 40 years ago....
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:35 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| You were more than likely destroying their left arms and hands 😙
In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | I'm not sure if your comment about displaying a figure for 40 years was serious,
but I doubt almost anyone was displaying Lego figures 40 years ago.
|
I think it's a lot more likely than someone putting a figure away for 40
years, or not opening a box at all.
Admittedly, this is just speculation, and not based on anything in my own experience.
When I think of what I was doing to minifigures 40 years ago....
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 10:15 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Everyone knows that is used - everyone.
Don't play dumb!
You can Google stuff in almost every instance.
I could see how a damaged box could lead to amazing new old-stock minifigures
would show up.
LEGO has been considered as an investment since it's birth, or atleast since
it's infancy.
In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, zorbanj writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| |
Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
|
Don't know if it is still being done, but Amazon used to make test buys of
jewelry from third party sellers. I doubt BL would do that but it's the only
sure way to get proof.
|
I'm not sure that would actually be helpful in many cases - I've no doubt
that many used-sold-as-new minifigures here on BL actually look new. And isn't
it much more likely that a minifigure was displayed in a case for 30-40 years
than it was stored away?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 10:35 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| My sarcasm detector might not be working today. My main point is it's extremely
rare to find sealed sets from 70's and early 80's, so why are "new" figures
from that era so common?
I was a kid in the 70's/80's and find it hard to believe that very many
people intentionally kept their Lego sets sealed as an investment from that time
(especially considering Lego has under-performed the stock market as a long term
investment). Almost everything still sealed from that era was probably a gift
that never got given... lost in a closet for a generation.
In General, molten.brick writes:
| | Everyone knows that is used - everyone.
Don't play dumb!
You can Google stuff in almost every instance.
I could see how a damaged box could lead to amazing new old-stock minifigures
would show up.
LEGO has been considered as an investment since it's birth, or atleast since
it's infancy.
In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, zorbanj writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| |
Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
|
Don't know if it is still being done, but Amazon used to make test buys of
jewelry from third party sellers. I doubt BL would do that but it's the only
sure way to get proof.
|
I'm not sure that would actually be helpful in many cases - I've no doubt
that many used-sold-as-new minifigures here on BL actually look new. And isn't
it much more likely that a minifigure was displayed in a case for 30-40 years
than it was stored away?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 10:47 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Exactly. Lots of people are still dying everyday with all that stuff in-hand/closet,
and being found.
If you come across one single brick, you could be sitting on a tin-mine.
If anything, the genuinely rare stuff is still under-valued.
I would've opened and played the hell outta all that stuff personally.
Climate definitely plays apart of this entire situation.
Every rare set should be stored in Australia - like a seed-bank...
You know what I'm saying...
In General, rab1234 writes:
| | My sarcasm detector might not be working today. My main point is it's extremely
rare to find sealed sets from 70's and early 80's, so why are "new" figures
from that era so common?
I was a kid in the 70's/80's and find it hard to believe that very many
people intentionally kept their Lego sets sealed as an investment from that time
(especially considering Lego has under-performed the stock market as a long term
investment). Almost everything still sealed from that era was probably a gift
that never got given... lost in a closet for a generation.
In General, molten.brick writes:
| | Everyone knows that is used - everyone.
Don't play dumb!
You can Google stuff in almost every instance.
I could see how a damaged box could lead to amazing new old-stock minifigures
would show up.
LEGO has been considered as an investment since it's birth, or atleast since
it's infancy.
In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, zorbanj writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
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Unfortunately, I don't think it's right to issue problem reports against
a seller's listings either though. Because you really don't have any
proof without buying the items yourself. So really not sure what can be done
other than complain in the forum. :/
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Don't know if it is still being done, but Amazon used to make test buys of
jewelry from third party sellers. I doubt BL would do that but it's the only
sure way to get proof.
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I'm not sure that would actually be helpful in many cases - I've no doubt
that many used-sold-as-new minifigures here on BL actually look new. And isn't
it much more likely that a minifigure was displayed in a case for 30-40 years
than it was stored away?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:16 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | My sarcasm detector might not be working today. My main point is it's extremely
rare to find sealed sets from 70's and early 80's, so why are "new" figures
from that era so common?
I was a kid in the 70's/80's and find it hard to believe that very many
people intentionally kept their Lego sets sealed as an investment from that time
(especially considering Lego has under-performed the stock market as a long term
investment). Almost everything still sealed from that era was probably a gift
that never got given... lost in a closet for a generation.
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Not only that, but if a set was kept sealed all this time by mistake, just left
in a cupboard or attic or wherever, it is usually going to be worth more as a
sealed set than if parted out.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:20 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I can see how value can be potentially misconstrued.
In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, rab1234 writes:
| | My sarcasm detector might not be working today. My main point is it's extremely
rare to find sealed sets from 70's and early 80's, so why are "new" figures
from that era so common?
I was a kid in the 70's/80's and find it hard to believe that very many
people intentionally kept their Lego sets sealed as an investment from that time
(especially considering Lego has under-performed the stock market as a long term
investment). Almost everything still sealed from that era was probably a gift
that never got given... lost in a closet for a generation.
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Not only that, but if a set was kept sealed all this time by mistake, just left
in a cupboard or attic or wherever, it is usually going to be worth more as a
sealed set than if parted out.
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| | | | | | | Author: | antant7 | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:31 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | If before purchase, report and least favourite if you don't trust them. If
after purchase, complain direct, then NSS and PayPal complaint, then feedback.
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This! All the right processes are already in place. If buyers would follow the
process, in time, the problem would solve itself. Such sellers would get NSS'd
out of BL or it would become uneconomical for them to try and scam people.
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| | | | | Author: | enig | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:38 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I have a buyer/seller who lost NSS claim against me, then initiated a false PP
claim which he won but still refused to return the items. $800 worth with about
another $100 in shipping.
The items were later listed at his shop for sale. That's some straight-up
SCAM.
Been about a year by now. BL closed the ticket.
To answer your question - YES. It is possible to take actions against such sellers
but the absolute truth is that BL does not care.
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| | | | | | | Author: | molten.brick | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 11:41 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I'd trust your listing - or, if I had doubt, I'd question you beforehand.
In General, enig writes:
| | I have a buyer/seller who lost NSS claim against me, then initiated a false PP
claim which he won but still refused to return the items. $800 worth with about
another $100 in shipping.
The items were later listed at his shop for sale. That's some straight-up
SCAM.
Been about a year by now. BL closed the ticket.
To answer your question - YES. It is possible to take actions against such sellers
but the absolute truth is that BL does not care.
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| | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 15:19 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Interesting query around this topic: https://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?viewFrom=sa&sellerCountryID=US&invNew=N&itemType=M&sellerLoc=C&itemYear=1979&searchSort=B&sz=25
Out of several stores that I checked out offering really old "new" figures, I
did see a couple that seemed legit because they had classic sealed sets or various
other indicators.
Several others seem to have have tons of "new" figures with the parts from the
set listed as used, suspicious wording around their listings to explain damage,
complaints from buyers claiming they received used items, or personal sales I've
made that have oddly become "new" and relisted right after I sold as used.
Speaking from a US perspective only, it seems about 10 sellers are really spoiling
the Bricklink name here...
In General, rab1234 writes:
| | This has probably been raised before, but is there anything that can be done
about these sellers who list figs from the 70s and 80s as new? It’s hard to
be 100% sure they’re lying (even with feedback claiming buyers were sent used
as new), but how much circumstantial evidence is enough? I saw a seller today
who had some very rare castle figs listed as new, so I checked his parts list
and, wouldn’t you know it, some of the exclusive parts from those sets are listed
in used condition with damage noted. Really?
I’ve also sold a used fig to someone before and saw them list it as new a week
after I shipped it.
Why bother having a condition if you can just lie and there are no consequences?
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| | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Dec 8, 2022 15:28 | | Subject: | Re: Obviously lying sellers: can anything be done | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | Out of several stores that I checked out offering really old "new" figures, I
did see a couple that seemed legit because they had classic sealed sets or various
other indicators.
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Ah yes and then there's the listing that says it's "totally legitimate"
in the comments, just in case anyone would think to question it
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