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 Author: danbutterworth View Messages Posted By danbutterworth
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danbutterworth (110)

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Hi. I am adding to my Iron Man collection and have noticed (myself and from other
threads) that sh612 and sh649 are the same figure but catalogued separately because
of the accessories included... are there any other known 'duplicate'
figures which are given different catalogue numbers due to add-ons please? Thanks
in advance :0)
 Author: stecre View Messages Posted By stecre
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In Catalog, danbutterworth writes:
  Hi. I am adding to my Iron Man collection and have noticed (myself and from other
threads) that sh612 and sh649 are the same figure but catalogued separately because
of the accessories included... are there any other known 'duplicate'
figures which are given different catalogue numbers due to add-ons please? Thanks
in advance :0)

 
Minifig No: sh612  Name: Iron Man - Silver Hexagon on Chest
* 
sh612 (Inv) Iron Man - Silver Hexagon on Chest
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Avengers
 
Minifig No: sh649  Name: Iron Man - Silver Hexagon on Chest, Foot Repulsors
* 
sh649 (Inv) Iron Man - Silver Hexagon on Chest, Foot Repulsors
Minifigures: Super Heroes: Avengers
 Author: MEAD_Bricks View Messages Posted By MEAD_Bricks
 Posted: Jul 13, 2022 14:08
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In Catalog, danbutterworth writes:
  Hi. I am adding to my Iron Man collection and have noticed (myself and from other
threads) that sh612 and sh649 are the same figure but catalogued separately because
of the accessories included... are there any other known 'duplicate'
figures which are given different catalogue numbers due to add-ons please? Thanks
in advance :0)

Here a two minifigs same but one with a pair of gorilla hands


 
Minifig No: njo118  Name: Karlof (without Gorilla Fists)
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njo118 (Inv) Karlof (without Gorilla Fists)
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Tournament of Elements

 
Minifig No: njo118a  Name: Karlof
* 
njo118a (Inv) Karlof
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Tournament of Elements
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
 Posted: Jul 13, 2022 14:18
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tonnic (4349)

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In Catalog, MEAD_Bricks writes:
  In Catalog, danbutterworth writes:
  Hi. I am adding to my Iron Man collection and have noticed (myself and from other
threads) that sh612 and sh649 are the same figure but catalogued separately because
of the accessories included... are there any other known 'duplicate'
figures which are given different catalogue numbers due to add-ons please? Thanks
in advance :0)

Here a two minifigs same but one with a pair of gorilla hands


 
Minifig No: njo118  Name: Karlof (without Gorilla Fists)
* 
njo118 (Inv) Karlof (without Gorilla Fists)
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Tournament of Elements

 
Minifig No: njo118a  Name: Karlof
* 
njo118a (Inv) Karlof
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Tournament of Elements

Hands that are worth a few cents and make the minifig about 50% more expensive
when bought new.

I sold minifigs with the same basic parts like legs, torso, head and headgear
that were more expensive than the minifig with exactly the same parts plus extras
like an armor. Just because the minifig with fewer parts are only sold in 1 set
and the same minifig with more parts in, for instance, 3 sets. So less can be
more.

For me it is a strange thing in the world of selling on Bricklink.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 13, 2022 14:38
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In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  […]
Hands that are worth a few cents and make the minifig about 50% more expensive
when bought new.

I sold minifigs with the same basic parts like legs, torso, head and headgear
that were more expensive than the minifig with exactly the same parts plus extras
like an armor. Just because the minifig with fewer parts are only sold in 1 set
and the same minifig with more parts in, for instance, 3 sets. So less can be
more.

For me it is a strange thing in the world of selling on Bricklink.

Both Karlof are in the same set.

So it’s because of the contradiction between
— the rule excluding hand-held accessories from minifigs,
— and the need for the ‘real’ / complete minifig entry (both sellers & buyers
want this).

So there’s both.

And then prices diverge because people don’t know there’s two entries and sellers
can only use one… well, they could split their stock between the entries if they
have more than one but then they would have separate accessories to handle… and
anyway one entry will be found more easily than the other and sell more and therefore
be more expensive and sellers will only use this one….

And that’s when both entries are created at the same time.  When one is created
later, the market is already taken… or maybe it appears rarer and therefore gets
more expensive.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 13, 2022 15:16
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  […]
Hands that are worth a few cents and make the minifig about 50% more expensive
when bought new.

I sold minifigs with the same basic parts like legs, torso, head and headgear
that were more expensive than the minifig with exactly the same parts plus extras
like an armor. Just because the minifig with fewer parts are only sold in 1 set
and the same minifig with more parts in, for instance, 3 sets. So less can be
more.

For me it is a strange thing in the world of selling on Bricklink.

Both Karlof are in the same set.

So it’s because of the contradiction between
— the rule excluding hand-held accessories from minifigs,
— and the need for the ‘real’ / complete minifig entry (both sellers & buyers
want this).

So there’s both.

And then prices diverge because people don’t know there’s two entries and sellers
can only use one… well, they could split their stock between the entries if they
have more than one but then they would have separate accessories to handle… and
anyway one entry will be found more easily than the other and sell more and therefore
be more expensive and sellers will only use this one….

And that’s when both entries are created at the same time.  When one is created
later, the market is already taken… or maybe it appears rarer and therefore gets
more expensive.

Yeah, when first released, this Yoda
 
Minifig No: sw0707  Name: Yoda - Olive Green, Open Robe with Large Creases
* 
sw0707 (Inv) Yoda - Olive Green, Open Robe with Large Creases
Minifigures: Star Wars
was about double the price of this Yoda.
 
Minifig No: SW0471  Name: Yoda - Olive Green, Open Robe with Large Creases, Neck Bracket
* 
sw0471 (Inv) Yoda - Olive Green, Open Robe with Large Creases, Neck Bracket
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 2
 Author: stecre View Messages Posted By stecre
 Posted: Jul 13, 2022 18:05
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In Catalog, danbutterworth writes:
  Hi. I am adding to my Iron Man collection and have noticed (myself and from other
threads) that sh612 and sh649 are the same figure but catalogued separately because
of the accessories included... are there any other known 'duplicate'
figures which are given different catalogue numbers due to add-ons please? Thanks
in advance :0)

Not specifically within super-heroes but elsewhere there are quite a few that
just differ by having a cape (or not), e.g.
 
Minifig No: sw0163  Name: Kit Fisto
* 
sw0163 (Inv) Kit Fisto
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 3
 
Minifig No: sw0422  Name: Kit Fisto with Cape
* 
sw0422 (Inv) Kit Fisto with Cape
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 3
and
 
Minifig No: sw0592  Name: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Young, Printed Legs)
* 
sw0592 (Inv) Obi-Wan Kenobi (Young, Printed Legs)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1
 
Minifig No: sw0812  Name: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Young, Printed Legs, without Cape)
* 
sw0812 (Inv) Obi-Wan Kenobi (Young, Printed Legs, without Cape)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 1
and
 
Minifig No: njo136  Name: Chen
* 
njo136 (Inv) Chen
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Tournament of Elements
 
Minifig No: njo126  Name: Chen - Cape
* 
njo126 (Inv) Chen - Cape
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Tournament of Elements

Within Ninjago there are a lot where it's just a scabbard/armour or other
neck/back accessory that makes it different, e.g.
 
Minifig No: njo386  Name: Cole - Sons of Garmadon with Scabbard
* 
njo386 (Inv) Cole - Sons of Garmadon with Scabbard
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Sons of Garmadon
 
Minifig No: njo455  Name: Cole - Sons of Garmadon
* 
njo455 (Inv) Cole - Sons of Garmadon
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Sons of Garmadon
and
 
Minifig No: njo606  Name: Cole Hero - Clip on Back
* 
njo606 (Inv) Cole Hero - Clip on Back
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Master of the Mountain
 
Minifig No: njo625  Name: Cole Hero
* 
njo625 (Inv) Cole Hero
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Master of the Mountain
and
 
Minifig No: njo211  Name: Cyren - Belt Outfit, Scabbard
* 
njo211 (Inv) Cyren - Belt Outfit, Scabbard
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Skybound
 
Minifig No: njo219  Name: Cyren - Belt Outfit
* 
njo219 (Inv) Cyren - Belt Outfit
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Skybound
and
 
Minifig No: njo128  Name: Jay (Jungle Robe) - Tournament of Elements
* 
njo128 (Inv) Jay (Jungle Robe) - Tournament of Elements
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Tournament of Elements
 
Minifig No: njo216  Name: Jay (Jungle Robe) - Tournament of Elements with Armor
* 
njo216 (Inv) Jay (Jungle Robe) - Tournament of Elements with Armor
Minifigures: NINJAGO: Tournament of Elements
 Author: danbutterworth View Messages Posted By danbutterworth
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In Catalog, danbutterworth writes:
  Hi. I am adding to my Iron Man collection and have noticed (myself and from other
threads) that sh612 and sh649 are the same figure but catalogued separately because
of the accessories included... are there any other known 'duplicate'
figures which are given different catalogue numbers due to add-ons please? Thanks
in advance :0)


Thanks for all the replies :0) It is specifically Iron Man I'm currently
interested in but it looks from the info people have given that sh612 and sh649
and hopefully the only examples of this for that particular character. Thanks
again - appreciated.