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 Author: skwalk1 View Messages Posted By skwalk1
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Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!
 




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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!
 
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

It looks like the letters are laid on a bit thicker than in the figure image
here on BL, but that's not an uncommon variation in Lego printing:

 
Minifig No: sw0465a  Name: Yoda, NY I Heart Torso, White Hair (TRU Times Square 2013 Exclusive)
* 
sw0465a (Inv) Yoda, NY I Heart Torso, White Hair (TRU Times Square 2013 Exclusive)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Other

The heart also appears to be in a slightly different location relative to the
lettering and trademark symbol but I'm assuming the black and red print were
applied separately, so that is not particularly weird either.
 Author: skwalk1 View Messages Posted By skwalk1
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In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

It looks like the letters are laid on a bit thicker than in the figure image
here on BL, but that's not an uncommon variation in Lego printing:

 
Minifig No: sw0465a  Name: Yoda, NY I Heart Torso, White Hair (TRU Times Square 2013 Exclusive)
* 
sw0465a (Inv) Yoda, NY I Heart Torso, White Hair (TRU Times Square 2013 Exclusive)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Other

The heart also appears to be in a slightly different location relative to the
lettering and trademark symbol but I'm assuming the black and red print were
applied separately, so that is not particularly weird either.

thank you for your assessment
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
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I'm certainly no expert, but the "TM" in the BL image is higher up than yours.
Yours lines up almost exactly with the bottom of the heart. The BL one is above
the bottom of the heart. Possible yours has the bottom of the heart worn off,
but just something I noticed.


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  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Help, rab1234 writes:
  I'm certainly no expert, but the "TM" in the BL image is higher up than yours.
Yours lines up almost exactly with the bottom of the heart. The BL one is above
the bottom of the heart. Possible yours has the bottom of the heart worn off,
but just something I noticed.

The "TM" is not higher up - it's that the heart in the BL image is lower,
not lined up with the lettering, unlike the OP's, which is lined up.
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

The heart in the BL picture has a point at the bottom. The heart in the picture
appears to be more rounded.
 Author: BricksOfFaith View Messages Posted By BricksOfFaith
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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

Honestly, out of my own, non-expert opinion of staring because I have nothing
else to do, and everything everyone else has said, I’d say it’s real!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

What the others said - but I'd be extremely cautious due to its commercial
value.

I guess a bad brick printer guy/company could print this on a basic white torso...

And did you carefully check it's not a simple transfer? You know, mainly
for kids, you apply with water...
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

For me, the first question is where / who did you buy it from, then what is their
history selling lego, where did they say they got it from, how many have they
sold or still have for sale.

Although given the value of this part and the number of bulk lots that were sold
on ebay and various other sites (including here), I imagine it is fake.
 Author: edeevo View Messages Posted By edeevo
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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

A side-by-side comparison with the Bricklink catalog image of the printing does
show some slight differences (specifically the shape of the lower point of the
heart and its' positioning)...

Life is Good.
~Ed.
 
 Author: par016 View Messages Posted By par016
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In Help, edeevo writes:
  In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

A side-by-side comparison with the Bricklink catalog image of the printing does
show some slight differences (specifically the shape of the lower point of the
heart and its' positioning)...

Life is Good.
~Ed.

I agree with Ed as well that the heart on mine is not exactly inline with the
"I" but instead a little offset lower just like the one in the BrickLink picture.

-Pete
 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
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In Help, par016 writes:
  In Help, edeevo writes:
  In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

A side-by-side comparison with the Bricklink catalog image of the printing does
show some slight differences (specifically the shape of the lower point of the
heart and its' positioning)...

Life is Good.
~Ed.

I agree with Ed as well that the heart on mine is not exactly inline with the
"I" but instead a little offset lower just like the one in the BrickLink picture.

-Pete

$5000.00 for a new one and $500.00 plus for a used one / well that unfortunately
provides a lot of incentive for someone to try to print out some decent looking
fake torsos, spend a few bucks buying the standard tan legs and Yoda heads and
then try and sell them on different sites. If you sell 5 of them on different
sites and if even 2 people file a PayPal claim, the guy still makes out.

Jim.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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  $5000.00 for a new one and $500.00 plus for a used one / well that unfortunately
provides a lot of incentive for someone to try to print out some decent looking
fake torsos, spend a few bucks buying the standard tan legs and Yoda heads and
then try and sell them on different sites. If you sell 5 of them on different
sites and if even 2 people file a PayPal claim, the guy still makes out.

Right on the money, Jim!
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There used to be people on eBay selling the Yoda NY torsos ten at a time. The
same sellers also sold Deadpool heads and occasionally other body parts, and
comic con figure parts, and so on. No doubt many collectors have them in their
collections. Genuine or not? Who knows. Personally I wouldn't pay a high
price for any of them.
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In Help, edeevo writes:
  In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

A side-by-side comparison with the Bricklink catalog image of the printing does
show some slight differences (specifically the shape of the lower point of the
heart and its' positioning)...

Yep - I agree with some here, it's so easy to print that chances are low,
IMHO, to be genuine.
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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

I would say that the printing looks a lot thicker than the one that I have, and
the bottom of the heart looks more rounded than mine. Not sure if there was
much variation with that, but that's what I have to offer.

-Pete
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In Help, par016 writes:
  In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

I would say that the printing looks a lot thicker than the one that I have, and
the bottom of the heart looks more rounded than mine. Not sure if there was
much variation with that, but that's what I have to offer.

-Pete

yes--i have 2 in bag and what Pete says is correct
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In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!

I have 3 of these. One of them is still sealed in it's original bag, and
I got two from very reputable sellers many years ago, with documentation and
history. All three I have are like the other posters described, letters are a
bit thinner than yours, and the heart is a bit more pointed. In my opinion, the
one you have is likely fake.
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Interesting that given this was a NY tru exclusive (I think limited to 1,000);
that most of the available ones are in the Czech Republic, Hong Kong, and Malaysia.



In Help, skwalk1 writes:
  Hello,
I need your help once. I have received a Yoda minifigure and would like an expertise
on the authenticity of this figure. The torso has a Lego lettering on it, but
I'm not sure if the printing on the shirt wasn't applied afterwards.
Thank you for your help!
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In Help, rab1234 writes:
  Interesting that given this was a NY tru exclusive (I think limited to 1,000);
that most of the available ones are in the Czech Republic, Hong Kong, and Malaysia.


Well, not very conclusive as there’s no LEGO factory in New York.
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In Help, SylvainLS writes:
  In Help, rab1234 writes:
  Interesting that given this was a NY tru exclusive (I think limited to 1,000);
that most of the available ones are in the Czech Republic, Hong Kong, and Malaysia.


Well, not very conclusive as there’s no LEGO factory in New York.

Much more, 1000? I thought it was 1001!
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Hmmmm. Interesting that it is different from the Bricklink one.