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 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Jun 20, 2022 12:19
 Subject: Call it a day... some buyers
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 Topic: Selling
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Leftoverbricks (2225)

Location:  Netherlands, Overijssel
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Mar 11, 2012 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Leftoverbricks
Received email from a buyer:
"What are shipping costs for the items in my shopping cart?"

I replied that I cannot look into carts. I have automated checkout so shipping
costs should be visible. I also explained that sometimes there are items without
weight and the shipping costs are "TBD". If that's the case, please email
me back which item has no weight listed and I come back to you.

Later that day I receive an order form the same buyer: 6 items in 4 lots, totalling
40 cents. Yes, 40 cents.
Buyer selects 'collect locally' for shipping (that is an option I'm
offering).

I mail back: do you really want to collect the items at my location? Because
he lives 1 hour by car from my location (you know what gasoline / benzine costs
today). No reply, instead he added an item to his order, a 2x2 white round plate
for 4 cents. So this makes the total worth of his order 44 cents!

Couple of minutes later I receive the question what the shipping costs would
be.
I answered that shipping would be € 1.97, according to the weight of the order
and my shipping policy.

Next I got an email to cancel his order because he longer needs the parts.

Holy moly!

I cancelled his order and calculated that he kept me busy for half a day. For
44 cents that never came into my pocket!

So let's call it a day.

Martin

BTW: if you want to add this buyer to your stop list, please contact me. Buyer
has a 15 FB rating which I think he doesn't deserve.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Jun 20, 2022 12:25
 Subject: Re: Call it a day... some buyers
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1001bricks (52303)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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Store: 1001bricks
  Later that day I receive an order form the same buyer: 6 items in 4 lots, totalling
40 cents. Yes, 40 cents.
Buyer selects 'collect locally' for shipping (that is an option I'm
offering).

Set a minimum of 50€ if this is a problem?


  I mail back: do you really want to collect the items at my location? Because
he lives 1 hour by car from my location (you know what gasoline / benzine costs
today). No reply, instead he added an item to his order, a 2x2 white round plate
for 4 cents. So this makes the total worth of his order 44 cents!

Yes, but you're losing your time.
Either limit this option, or don't ask any question.
Some are happy to drive for 1 hour to pick 3 parts; they probably need to see
the shop.


  I cancelled his order and calculated that he kept me busy for half a day. For
44 cents that never came into my pocket!

Next time you'll get 200€ with almost zero work.
The life a shop is to be counted as an average, never every action separately.

Just like costs.
You lose 100€? Fine if you get 5000€, it's 2% - so you gained 98% it's
far better than 0


  BTW: if you want to add this buyer to your stop list, please contact me. Buyer
has a 15 FB rating which I think he doesn't deserve.

Please do this - add restrictions - I'll gladly take more buyers
 Author: 3001Bricks View Messages Posted By 3001Bricks
 Posted: Jun 20, 2022 12:59
 Subject: Re: Call it a day... some buyers
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3001Bricks (2427)

Location:  USA, Arkansas
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  
  Later that day I receive an order form the same buyer: 6 items in 4 lots, totalling
40 cents. Yes, 40 cents.
Buyer selects 'collect locally' for shipping (that is an option I'm
offering).

Set a minimum of 50€ if this is a problem?


  I mail back: do you really want to collect the items at my location? Because
he lives 1 hour by car from my location (you know what gasoline / benzine costs
today). No reply, instead he added an item to his order, a 2x2 white round plate
for 4 cents. So this makes the total worth of his order 44 cents!

Yes, but you're losing your time.
Either limit this option, or don't ask any question.
Some are happy to drive for 1 hour to pick 3 parts; they probably need to see
the shop.


  I cancelled his order and calculated that he kept me busy for half a day. For
44 cents that never came into my pocket!

Next time you'll get 200€ with almost zero work.
The life a shop is to be counted as an average, never every action separately.

Just like costs.
You lose 100€? Fine if you get 5000€, it's 2% - so you gained 98% it's
far better than 0


  BTW: if you want to add this buyer to your stop list, please contact me. Buyer
has a 15 FB rating which I think he doesn't deserve.

Please do this - add restrictions - I'll gladly take more buyers

Averaging - This is one of the reasons I went to flat rate shipping, and I ignore
insurance options alltogether. Every order under 35 dollar is 4.95 usd shipping,
everything over is free shipping. On average it works out perfectly.

I only purhcase insurance on the extreme orders (500,750 etc), everything else
I just ignore. I've had two parcels gone missing over the past 4 years, I
just reshipped the order at my expense. Yes, that did cost me 20-30 bucks, but
over 4 years I saved a lot on not purchasing shipping.

As long as the averages work out, you're good.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Jun 20, 2022 13:21
 Subject: Re: Call it a day... some buyers
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1001bricks (52303)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 6, 2005 Contact Member Seller
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Store: 1001bricks
  Averaging - This is one of the reasons I went to flat rate shipping, and I ignore
insurance options alltogether. Every order under 35 dollar is 4.95 usd shipping,
everything over is free shipping. On average it works out perfectly.

I only purhcase insurance on the extreme orders (500,750 etc), everything else
I just ignore. I've had two parcels gone missing over the past 4 years, I
just reshipped the order at my expense. Yes, that did cost me 20-30 bucks, but
over 4 years I saved a lot on not purchasing shipping.

As long as the averages work out, you're good.

Yep - absolutely - that's very fine, keep on!
 Author: AngrySquirrel View Messages Posted By AngrySquirrel
 Posted: Jun 20, 2022 12:51
 Subject: Re: Call it a day... some buyers
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Location:  USA, Massachusetts
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 Author: maxx3001 View Messages Posted By maxx3001
 Posted: Jun 20, 2022 13:22
 Subject: Re: Call it a day... some buyers
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maxx3001 (2563)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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Store: 3001: A Brick Oddity
In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Received email from a buyer:
"What are shipping costs for the items in my shopping cart?"

Depending on the store, but overall +10% inflation

  I replied that I cannot look into carts. I have automated checkout so shipping
costs should be visible. I also explained that sometimes there are items without
weight and the shipping costs are "TBD". If that's the case, please email
me back which item has no weight listed and I come back to you.

If the items have no weight, shipping should be free, right…
  
Later that day I receive an order form the same buyer: 6 items in 4 lots, totalling
40 cents. Yes, 40 cents.
Buyer selects 'collect locally' for shipping (that is an option I'm
offering).

I mail back: do you really want to collect the items at my location? Because
he lives 1 hour by car from my location

Other countries don’t find one hour drive far I have discovered, some drive that
daily to and from work.
Or to their neighbors.
  (you know what gasoline / benzine costs
today).

(Damn, he who shall not be named)

  No reply, instead he added an item to his order, a 2x2 white round plate
for 4 cents. So this makes the total worth of his order 44 cents!

Couple of minutes later I receive the question what the shipping costs would
be.
I answered that shipping would be € 1.97, according to the weight of the order
and my shipping policy.

Next I got an email to cancel his order because he longer needs the parts.

Lucky you, no work for 44 cents

  
Holy moly!

I cancelled his order and calculated that he kept me busy for half a day. For
44 cents that never came into my pocket!

But also never left your pocket.

  
So let's call it a day.


Have a good evening

  Martin


Maxx

  BTW: if you want to add this buyer to your stop list, please contact me. Buyer
has a 15 FB rating which I think he doesn't deserve.

I leave a neutral for these people that make trouble for 44 cents….
 
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jun 20, 2022 16:32
 Subject: Re: Call it a day... some buyers
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In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Received email from a buyer:
"What are shipping costs for the items in my shopping cart?"

I replied that I cannot look into carts. I have automated checkout so shipping
costs should be visible. I also explained that sometimes there are items without
weight and the shipping costs are "TBD". If that's the case, please email
me back which item has no weight listed and I come back to you.

Later that day I receive an order form the same buyer: 6 items in 4 lots, totalling
40 cents. Yes, 40 cents.
Buyer selects 'collect locally' for shipping (that is an option I'm
offering).

I mail back: do you really want to collect the items at my location? Because
he lives 1 hour by car from my location (you know what gasoline / benzine costs
today). No reply, instead he added an item to his order, a 2x2 white round plate
for 4 cents. So this makes the total worth of his order 44 cents!

Couple of minutes later I receive the question what the shipping costs would
be.
I answered that shipping would be € 1.97, according to the weight of the order
and my shipping policy.

Next I got an email to cancel his order because he longer needs the parts.

Holy moly!

I cancelled his order and calculated that he kept me busy for half a day. For
44 cents that never came into my pocket!

So let's call it a day.

Martin

BTW: if you want to add this buyer to your stop list, please contact me. Buyer
has a 15 FB rating which I think he doesn't deserve.

As it's probably not the first time of this behavior you could have filed
a NPB which protects you against any feedback from this buyer.
The buyer has the option to NPx, cancel the order and accept the penalty.