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| | | Author: | Nubs_Select  | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 10:35 | | Subject: | Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 251 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite  even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 10:46 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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I would tell them and hopefully you have something in your terms about it to
point them to. Maybe they'll go ahead and pay their tax and maybe they won't
want to go ahead.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 10:49 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| I’ll go with that. That’s probably something I should add. I guess I never thought
I needed to add to my store terms that I won’t break tax laws on behalf of the
buyer. Also should I report the buyer as I think I remember reading one for he
forums to report buyers like this. The buyer has 60 feedback so they probably
have done it before and probably will do it again.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 10:52 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | 40 feedback” |
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| | | | | Author: | Biglesdug | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 10:50 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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Isn't vat collected onsite like sales tax is in the US?
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 10:52 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | Isn't vat collected onsite like sales tax is in the US?
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That’s what I thought to but I just double checked and this buyer is from Poland
which dosnt show that vat thing on his quote as compared to it showing on other
international quotes I have.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 11:36 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Biglesdug writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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Isn't vat collected onsite like sales tax is in the US?
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Yes for order lesser than 150€ I think.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 11:59 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Taxes, Biglesdug writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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Isn't vat collected onsite like sales tax is in the US?
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Yes for order lesser than 150€ I think.
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Yes, so $200+ is above the limit and the buyer will pay at reception (plus a
“brokerage fee” to the delivery service).
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 12:11 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | I had completely forgotten about that. |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 12:16 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | I had completely forgotten about that.
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It's why your name's Noob's select
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 12:21 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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I'm not sure that VAT calculation is correct, 23% of $200 is only $46.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 13:21 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, peregrinator writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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I'm not sure that VAT calculation is correct, 23% of $200 is only $46.
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What VAT calculation?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 13:35 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, axaday writes:
| | In Taxes, peregrinator writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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I'm not sure that VAT calculation is correct, 23% of $200 is only $46.
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What VAT calculation?
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Yes.
And much more, 23% VAT of $200 is 37.40$ VAT, not 46.
200 / 1.23 = 162.60 net
200 - 162.60 = 37.40 VAT
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 13:52 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
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| | | | I'm not sure that VAT calculation is correct, 23% of $200 is only $46.
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What VAT calculation?
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Yes.
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Indeed, the buyer talks about $222.26 & 23%. Where’s that VAT calculation?
| | And much more, 23% VAT of $200 is 37.40$ VAT, not 46.
200 / 1.23 = 162.60 net
200 - 162.60 = 37.40 VAT
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Er, no. VAT is added (value Added tax  ) and 23% of $200 is $46. You’re doing
it backward from an all-taxes-included (TTC) price that Nubs_Select doesn’t know
because he doesn’t see the VAT on the order as BL is not collecting it. So when
he says “200ish,” we can assume he’s talking about the $222.26 the buyer mentions,
not including the VAT.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 13:56 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
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| | | | I'm not sure that VAT calculation is correct, 23% of $200 is only $46.
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What VAT calculation?
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Yes.
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Indeed, the buyer talks about $222.26 & 23%. Where’s that VAT calculation?
| | And much more, 23% VAT of $200 is 37.40$ VAT, not 46.
200 / 1.23 = 162.60 net
200 - 162.60 = 37.40 VAT
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Er, no. VAT is added (value Added tax ) and 23% of $200 is $46. You’re doing
it backward from an all-taxes-included (TTC) price that Nubs_Select doesn’t know
because he doesn’t see the VAT on the order as BL is not collecting it. So when
he says “200ish,” we can assume he’s talking about the $222.26 the buyer mentions,
not including the VAT.
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Cheese! I've got mixed up with the 200$ above.
Sorry.
But then 23% VAT of 222.26 is 41.56, not 46.
(if we ignore $ and the fact VAT cannot be in dollars, but in local currency
that could be then translated in ^$)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:01 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | for more info to clear it up |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:07 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | for more info to clear it up
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CA $251.74 that's $47.07 VAT at 23%, so 34,89€ VAT + brokerage fees.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:10 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | for more info to clear it up
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CA $251.74 that's $47.07 VAT at 23%, so 34,89€ VAT + brokerage fees.
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VAT is not included in that sum - CA $251.74 == VAT of ~ CA $58 or €43
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:14 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
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But then 23% VAT of 222.26 is 41.56, not 46.
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No, it’s 51.12.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:18 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Taxes, 1001bricks writes:
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But then 23% VAT of 222.26 is 41.56, not 46.
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No, it’s 51.12.
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Oh (google) sheet - we're talking about a non VAT total 
I look like Nub's Select now
Sorry.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:00 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | Indeed, the buyer talks about $222.26 & 23%. Where’s that VAT calculation?
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"I will pay VAT (value added tax) 23% of CA $222.26"
I read that the buyer was saying he or she would pay VAT of CA $222.26, but now
I see that "23% of CA 222.26" was meant.
Carry on.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:14 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, peregrinator writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | Indeed, the buyer talks about $222.26 & 23%. Where’s that VAT calculation?
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"I will pay VAT (value added tax) 23% of CA $222.26"
I read that the buyer was saying he or she would pay VAT of CA $222.26, but now
I see that "23% of CA 222.26" was meant.
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Oh, okay, “a value of X” instead of “a tax on X.”
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:22 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | Oh, okay, “a value of X” instead of “a tax on X.”
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I was thinking either the buyer was making a huge error or Nub was not saying
the true value of the order
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:25 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:32 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, peregrinator writes:
| | In Taxes, SylvainLS writes:
| | Oh, okay, “a value of X” instead of “a tax on X.”
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I was thinking either the buyer was making a huge error or Nub was not saying
the true value of the order
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It’s only a $200 order: Just cancel, tax evasion is wrong.
It’s a $1000 order: Shut up and take the money!
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| | | | | Author: | miskox | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 13:36 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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https://circabc.europa.eu/ui/group/cb1eaff7-eedd-413d-ab88-94f761f9773b/library/a72d59ce-b52d-4566-80af-2d9a7fb0d1ab/details
There is a known problem of double taxaion (though (as mentioned) this has not
VAT collected being more than 150 EUR order)).
Saso
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:43 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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It makes little sense to do this now anyway. If it was a $10 order then VAT should
have been collected and you must attach the correct documentation showing that.
Just supply the full value paid. And maybe print out the order page with all
notes and messages attached, so Polish customs can have a laugh when they assess
VAT.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:50 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| In Taxes, yorbrick writes:
| | In Taxes, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Should I just say no to this buyer and ship normally or should I go ahead and
cancel their quote. I only ask since it’s a 200ish dollar order. (Also I don’t
even know if what they ask is even possible since it all onsite even so I
never had any intention of doing it)
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It makes little sense to do this now anyway. If it was a $10 order then VAT should
have been collected and you must attach the correct documentation showing that.
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Much more - just declare $10 and insure it for $251, that's also very fun.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 9, 2022 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 13, 2022 15:39 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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The person cancelled their quote and now placed an order but this time with a
Canadian Address
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 13, 2022 15:40 | | Subject: | Re: Should I just decline or cancel? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Taxes | |
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| | and still ends up paying almost $30 in tax. |
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