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 Author: par016 View Messages Posted By par016
 Posted: May 7, 2022 00:35
 Subject: Orders from Same Person / Different Usernames
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par016 (7590)

Location:  USA, New York
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Store: Boston Red Blocks
Today I got 2 orders from the same username being sent to two different addresses.
Both asked for no packing slip to be included so I figured I had a drop shipper
on my hands. I don't care about drop shippers generally, and I'm not
aware of being against any rules, so I was just gonna pack the orders and move
on, until I noticed that one of the names on the shipping address was very familiar.
I don't generally recognize a name unless I've shipped there 3+ times
but I thought it was weird that on the order it said this person had only purchased
from me twice (both that day and to the different addresses as mentioned). So
I thought this was odd and decided to do a little digging.

I went back to my email and searched the name and found that I had sent to this
address 4 times in the past 4 months (3 in the past month). Checking the usernames
on each order, I noticed that all 4 orders had different usernames. I then search
each username in my email and found that I have received at least 14 orders from
this user (all orders are for minifigures):

-7 from the first username which has 3400+ positives with the username only
being around for 8 months. There are 12 negatives from the same person (on the
same day) saying drop shipper. Their buyer privileges have been revoked.
-1 order from the second username which has only been in use for 1 month. 86
positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked
-4 orders from the 3rd username which has only been in existence for 3 weeks.
300 positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked.
-2 orders from the 4th username (which is a more unique name though not much)
but their buyer privileges are still good.

All of the usernames have positive feedback as recently as yesterday. I am not
sure if there are more than these 4 usernames, though it seems quite possible.

So what is going on? This person is clearly a drop shipper. I did not think
that was against the rules as long as you are not selling from a BrickLink store
(where you obviously wouldn't have the inventory on-hand which is against
the rules).

If it's not against the rules why have their buyer privileges been revoked
on the first 3 usernames? How did the buyer privileges get revoked on the 2nd
and 3rd username without even receiving a negative feedback? Should I report
this newest username?

Does anyone have any info on this or have they noticed this person doing this
in their store? Any info or guidance on this would be appreciated.

-Pete
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: May 7, 2022 01:04
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TakeAbricK (13457)

Location:  Netherlands, Gelderland
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In Selling, par016 writes:
  Today I got 2 orders from the same username being sent to two different addresses.
Both asked for no packing slip to be included so I figured I had a drop shipper
on my hands. I don't care about drop shippers generally, and I'm not
aware of being against any rules, so I was just gonna pack the orders and move
on, until I noticed that one of the names on the shipping address was very familiar.
I don't generally recognize a name unless I've shipped there 3+ times
but I thought it was weird that on the order it said this person had only purchased
from me twice (both that day and to the different addresses as mentioned). So
I thought this was odd and decided to do a little digging.

I went back to my email and searched the name and found that I had sent to this
address 4 times in the past 4 months (3 in the past month). Checking the usernames
on each order, I noticed that all 4 orders had different usernames. I then search
each username in my email and found that I have received at least 14 orders from
this user (all orders are for minifigures):

-7 from the first username which has 3400+ positives with the username only
being around for 8 months. There are 12 negatives from the same person (on the
same day) saying drop shipper. Their buyer privileges have been revoked.
-1 order from the second username which has only been in use for 1 month. 86
positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked
-4 orders from the 3rd username which has only been in existence for 3 weeks.
300 positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked.
-2 orders from the 4th username (which is a more unique name though not much)
but their buyer privileges are still good.

All of the usernames have positive feedback as recently as yesterday. I am not
sure if there are more than these 4 usernames, though it seems quite possible.

So what is going on? This person is clearly a drop shipper. I did not think
that was against the rules as long as you are not selling from a BrickLink store
(where you obviously wouldn't have the inventory on-hand which is against
the rules).

If it's not against the rules why have their buyer privileges been revoked
on the first 3 usernames? How did the buyer privileges get revoked on the 2nd
and 3rd username without even receiving a negative feedback? Should I report
this newest username?

It is against the rules. You are only allowed to sell items you have in stock.
Yes, you should report.

https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp

Maybe a merge request saying it's a dropshipper, with a link to this post.
Their selling privileges should be revoked also.

  
Does anyone have any info on this or have they noticed this person doing this
in their store? Any info or guidance on this would be appreciated.

-Pete
 Author: par016 View Messages Posted By par016
 Posted: May 7, 2022 03:19
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par016 (7590)

Location:  USA, New York
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Store: Boston Red Blocks
In Selling, TakeAbricK writes:

  It is against the rules. You are only allowed to sell items you have in stock.
Yes, you should report.

https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp

Maybe a merge request saying it's a dropshipper, with a link to this post.
Their selling privileges should be revoked also.



I understand that selling something on BrickLink that you don't have in stock
is against the rules, but this person isn't selling anything on BrickLink.
They don't even have a seller's account. They are buying from BrickLink
sellers and most likely having them directly shipped to their buyers. They could
be selling on Ebay or a different platform. So what rule are they breaking?

-Pete
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 7, 2022 08:48
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Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Selling, par016 writes:
  I understand that selling something on BrickLink that you don't have in stock
is against the rules, but this person isn't selling anything on BrickLink.
They don't even have a seller's account. They are buying from BrickLink
sellers and most likely having them directly shipped to their buyers. They could
be selling on Ebay or a different platform. So what rule are they breaking?

They're not, as far as I know, breaking any rule (at least not a BrickLink
one; some sellers have clauses in their Terms about not selling to dropshippers).
It could be that you see the same address popping up because someone is buying
on ebay (or whatever) from multiple BL dropshippers.
 Author: par016 View Messages Posted By par016
 Posted: May 7, 2022 12:41
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par016 (7590)

Location:  USA, New York
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Store: Boston Red Blocks
In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, par016 writes:
  I understand that selling something on BrickLink that you don't have in stock
is against the rules, but this person isn't selling anything on BrickLink.
They don't even have a seller's account. They are buying from BrickLink
sellers and most likely having them directly shipped to their buyers. They could
be selling on Ebay or a different platform. So what rule are they breaking?

They're not, as far as I know, breaking any rule (at least not a BrickLink
one; some sellers have clauses in their Terms about not selling to dropshippers).
It could be that you see the same address popping up because someone is buying
on ebay (or whatever) from multiple BL dropshippers.

They could be buying from multiple eBay drop shippers but I'm pretty confident
in this instance they are buying from the same drop shipper. The various usernames
associated with these orders are very similar. For instance they would be like
beach01, beach02, beach03, ocean01, etc.

Pete
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 7, 2022 05:27
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You might also find that the address is a forwarder, where foreign buyers buy
in the US (or other countries) and have the item shipped to a local address,
who then forward it internationally.
 Author: par016 View Messages Posted By par016
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par016 (7590)

Location:  USA, New York
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Store: Boston Red Blocks
In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  You might also find that the address is a forwarder, where foreign buyers buy
in the US (or other countries) and have the item shipped to a local address,
who then forward it internationally.

Address is almost always different. I only noticed because a few of them were
to the same person.

Pete
 Author: tec View Messages Posted By tec
 Posted: May 7, 2022 06:05
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tec (61)

Location:  Italy, Marche
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Well I think you can simply go to EBAY and look if and when your minifig got
sold here too.

Also, a lot of my preferred sellers put the business card and the receipt into
the envelope, which the dropshipper can't do anything about because it's
inside!

So if I were a ebay buyer, I would instantly know I were ripped off because I
see the real price (lower) and I will get the url from the card, land here and
use BL from that point on. bye bye ebay

But how on earth a minifig lover is so advanced in Lego lore to collect them
and so noob to use EBAY, that defeats me.
 Author: Emporiosa View Messages Posted By Emporiosa
 Posted: May 7, 2022 07:36
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Location:  Canada, Ontario
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  Does anyone have any info on this or have they noticed this person doing this
in their store? Any info or guidance on this would be appreciated.

-Pete

The times I've seen that happen most were for dropshippers that were trying
to get around tax collection, so they'd try to say they're from X state
that didn't have state taxes being collected yet (New Hampshire was a popular
one) but usually say "Please ship to the address shown in PayPal instead" (as
states that didn't have automatic tax collection I think didn't force
an onsite address confirmation with PayPal so the BL and PP addresses could be
different), and then once BL admin caught on, they'd get shut down and make
another new account. Not saying that's what's happening here, but I definitely
recall running into a few of those during the early days of the marketplace tax
rollout.
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Location:  USA, New York
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Apr 30, 2013 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Boston Red Blocks
In Selling, Emporiosa writes:
  
  Does anyone have any info on this or have they noticed this person doing this
in their store? Any info or guidance on this would be appreciated.

-Pete

The times I've seen that happen most were for dropshippers that were trying
to get around tax collection, so they'd try to say they're from X state
that didn't have state taxes being collected yet (New Hampshire was a popular
one) but usually say "Please ship to the address shown in PayPal instead" (as
states that didn't have automatic tax collection I think didn't force
an onsite address confirmation with PayPal so the BL and PP addresses could be
different), and then once BL admin caught on, they'd get shut down and make
another new account. Not saying that's what's happening here, but I definitely
recall running into a few of those during the early days of the marketplace tax
rollout.

The tax evasion might be part of it. Their location has changed between the usernames.

Pete
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: May 7, 2022 09:08
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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Store: Old Grey Bricks
In Selling, par016 writes:
  Today I got 2 orders from the same username being sent to two different addresses.
Both asked for no packing slip to be included so I figured I had a drop shipper
on my hands. I don't care about drop shippers generally, and I'm not
aware of being against any rules, so I was just gonna pack the orders and move
on, until I noticed that one of the names on the shipping address was very familiar.
I don't generally recognize a name unless I've shipped there 3+ times
but I thought it was weird that on the order it said this person had only purchased
from me twice (both that day and to the different addresses as mentioned). So
I thought this was odd and decided to do a little digging.

I went back to my email and searched the name and found that I had sent to this
address 4 times in the past 4 months (3 in the past month). Checking the usernames
on each order, I noticed that all 4 orders had different usernames. I then search
each username in my email and found that I have received at least 14 orders from
this user (all orders are for minifigures):

-7 from the first username which has 3400+ positives with the username only
being around for 8 months. There are 12 negatives from the same person (on the
same day) saying drop shipper. Their buyer privileges have been revoked.
-1 order from the second username which has only been in use for 1 month. 86
positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked
-4 orders from the 3rd username which has only been in existence for 3 weeks.
300 positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked.
-2 orders from the 4th username (which is a more unique name though not much)
but their buyer privileges are still good.

All of the usernames have positive feedback as recently as yesterday. I am not
sure if there are more than these 4 usernames, though it seems quite possible.

So what is going on? This person is clearly a drop shipper. I did not think
that was against the rules as long as you are not selling from a BrickLink store
(where you obviously wouldn't have the inventory on-hand which is against
the rules).

If it's not against the rules why have their buyer privileges been revoked
on the first 3 usernames? How did the buyer privileges get revoked on the 2nd
and 3rd username without even receiving a negative feedback? Should I report
this newest username?

Does anyone have any info on this or have they noticed this person doing this
in their store? Any info or guidance on this would be appreciated.

-Pete

There are no rules against someone selling something on another digital platform
and sourcing it from a BrickLink seller. I don't know why the other user
names have had their privileges revoked, but I have never had any trouble with
this particular buyer. They are organized, pay promptly, and have caused me zero
problems. I don't care to list things on ebay or amazon and now, I don't
have to. I'm selling stuff at the price I listed and I hope they are also
making a tidy profit.

Jen
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Location:  USA, New York
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Store: Boston Red Blocks
In Selling, jennnifer writes:
  In Selling, par016 writes:
  Today I got 2 orders from the same username being sent to two different addresses.
Both asked for no packing slip to be included so I figured I had a drop shipper
on my hands. I don't care about drop shippers generally, and I'm not
aware of being against any rules, so I was just gonna pack the orders and move
on, until I noticed that one of the names on the shipping address was very familiar.
I don't generally recognize a name unless I've shipped there 3+ times
but I thought it was weird that on the order it said this person had only purchased
from me twice (both that day and to the different addresses as mentioned). So
I thought this was odd and decided to do a little digging.

I went back to my email and searched the name and found that I had sent to this
address 4 times in the past 4 months (3 in the past month). Checking the usernames
on each order, I noticed that all 4 orders had different usernames. I then search
each username in my email and found that I have received at least 14 orders from
this user (all orders are for minifigures):

-7 from the first username which has 3400+ positives with the username only
being around for 8 months. There are 12 negatives from the same person (on the
same day) saying drop shipper. Their buyer privileges have been revoked.
-1 order from the second username which has only been in use for 1 month. 86
positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked
-4 orders from the 3rd username which has only been in existence for 3 weeks.
300 positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked.
-2 orders from the 4th username (which is a more unique name though not much)
but their buyer privileges are still good.

All of the usernames have positive feedback as recently as yesterday. I am not
sure if there are more than these 4 usernames, though it seems quite possible.

So what is going on? This person is clearly a drop shipper. I did not think
that was against the rules as long as you are not selling from a BrickLink store
(where you obviously wouldn't have the inventory on-hand which is against
the rules).

If it's not against the rules why have their buyer privileges been revoked
on the first 3 usernames? How did the buyer privileges get revoked on the 2nd
and 3rd username without even receiving a negative feedback? Should I report
this newest username?

Does anyone have any info on this or have they noticed this person doing this
in their store? Any info or guidance on this would be appreciated.

-Pete

There are no rules against someone selling something on another digital platform
and sourcing it from a BrickLink seller. I don't know why the other user
names have had their privileges revoked, but I have never had any trouble with
this particular buyer. They are organized, pay promptly, and have caused me zero
problems. I don't care to list things on ebay or amazon and now, I don't
have to. I'm selling stuff at the price I listed and I hope they are also
making a tidy profit.

Jen

Yeah I don't have a problem with drop shippers because I set my price and
that's what it sold for. No complaints from me that someone else is selling
what I sold for more. Good for them I guess. Also I know some BrickLink sellers
will drop ship when there is a problem with one of their orders. Like if there
is a damaged minifigure and they don't have a replacement to send to their
buyer they purchase it in another store and just drop ship it to their buyer.
I see no problem with that.

My only concern is that their buying privaledges have been revoked 3 times and
they continue to create new accounts to get around this. As I don't know
what rule they violated to get their buying privileges revoked and I haven't
seen any rules broken I don't know what I would report them for, but it seems
like something wrong is being done.

Pete
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: May 7, 2022 15:49
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Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Store: ZorbaNJ's Bricks
I don't think the buyer continuously circumventing bans can be fixed by sellers
reporting them. This is the same problem that exists with stoplists - the buyer
makes a new account and orders again. BL apparently doesn't check new account
data against any banned/stoplisted account data before allowing an order to be
placed from the new account.


In Selling, par016 writes:
  
My only concern is that their buying privaledges have been revoked 3 times and
they continue to create new accounts to get around this. As I don't know
what rule they violated to get their buying privileges revoked and I haven't
seen any rules broken I don't know what I would report them for, but it seems
like something wrong is being done.

Pete
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Location:  USA, Minnesota
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Store: Emperor's Palace
  
My only concern is that their buying privaledges have been revoked 3 times and
they continue to create new accounts to get around this. As I don't know
what rule they violated to get their buying privileges revoked and I haven't
seen any rules broken I don't know what I would report them for, but it seems
like something wrong is being done.

Pete

I have sold to this person a few times, that's how I also noticed the confusion
and multiple usernames. I was concerned at first, but he paid promptly, I shipped
to the paypal address and that's really all you can do. I had no issues arise
from any of my sales to him and would fill another order if he were to place
one. I thought maybe the revoked buying privileges were from people reporting
him as multiple accounts. Each time he makes a new one and someone reports it
then bricklink seems to revoke privileges on the older account. So you could
report him, but then I am sure he would just make a new one. It might be better
to let him build some feedback instead of always having to start at 0 when he
makes a new account. More feedback would help sellers feel more comfortable.

As to the different addresses, that I can't comment on. I just mail wherever
paypal says to.
 Author: 3001Bricks View Messages Posted By 3001Bricks
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Location:  USA, Arkansas
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Store: 3001Bricks
In Selling, par016 writes:
  Today I got 2 orders from the same username being sent to two different addresses.
Both asked for no packing slip to be included so I figured I had a drop shipper
on my hands. I don't care about drop shippers generally, and I'm not
aware of being against any rules, so I was just gonna pack the orders and move
on, until I noticed that one of the names on the shipping address was very familiar.
I don't generally recognize a name unless I've shipped there 3+ times
but I thought it was weird that on the order it said this person had only purchased
from me twice (both that day and to the different addresses as mentioned). So
I thought this was odd and decided to do a little digging.

I went back to my email and searched the name and found that I had sent to this
address 4 times in the past 4 months (3 in the past month). Checking the usernames
on each order, I noticed that all 4 orders had different usernames. I then search
each username in my email and found that I have received at least 14 orders from
this user (all orders are for minifigures):

-7 from the first username which has 3400+ positives with the username only
being around for 8 months. There are 12 negatives from the same person (on the
same day) saying drop shipper. Their buyer privileges have been revoked.
-1 order from the second username which has only been in use for 1 month. 86
positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked
-4 orders from the 3rd username which has only been in existence for 3 weeks.
300 positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked.
-2 orders from the 4th username (which is a more unique name though not much)
but their buyer privileges are still good.

All of the usernames have positive feedback as recently as yesterday. I am not
sure if there are more than these 4 usernames, though it seems quite possible.

So what is going on? This person is clearly a drop shipper. I did not think
that was against the rules as long as you are not selling from a BrickLink store
(where you obviously wouldn't have the inventory on-hand which is against
the rules).

If it's not against the rules why have their buyer privileges been revoked
on the first 3 usernames? How did the buyer privileges get revoked on the 2nd
and 3rd username without even receiving a negative feedback? Should I report
this newest username?

Does anyone have any info on this or have they noticed this person doing this
in their store? Any info or guidance on this would be appreciated.

-Pete

Could it simply be that these accounts are dropshippers, and the common shipping
name/address is someone who buys quite a few minifigs on eBay, and happen to
buy from multiple dropshippers all ordering from you again?

It seems plausible, and there is nothing wrong or fraudulent going on.

Taxes are charged based on shipping address, so I doubt it's anything sketchy
for tax evasion.

Dropshipping is fine, I don't mind them at all, as they get the first questions
from their buyers and act like a filter towards you and me in case issues arise.
Easy business for me. I get the price I want, and he gets extra margin for going
through effort of setting a listing up on ebay and the effort that goes along
with that. Everybody happy.
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Location:  USA, New York
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Store: Boston Red Blocks
In Selling, par016 writes:
  Today I got 2 orders from the same username being sent to two different addresses.
Both asked for no packing slip to be included so I figured I had a drop shipper
on my hands. I don't care about drop shippers generally, and I'm not
aware of being against any rules, so I was just gonna pack the orders and move
on, until I noticed that one of the names on the shipping address was very familiar.
I don't generally recognize a name unless I've shipped there 3+ times
but I thought it was weird that on the order it said this person had only purchased
from me twice (both that day and to the different addresses as mentioned). So
I thought this was odd and decided to do a little digging.

I went back to my email and searched the name and found that I had sent to this
address 4 times in the past 4 months (3 in the past month). Checking the usernames
on each order, I noticed that all 4 orders had different usernames. I then search
each username in my email and found that I have received at least 14 orders from
this user (all orders are for minifigures):

-7 from the first username which has 3400+ positives with the username only
being around for 8 months. There are 12 negatives from the same person (on the
same day) saying drop shipper. Their buyer privileges have been revoked.
-1 order from the second username which has only been in use for 1 month. 86
positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked
-4 orders from the 3rd username which has only been in existence for 3 weeks.
300 positives, no negatives but buyer privileges have been revoked.
-2 orders from the 4th username (which is a more unique name though not much)
but their buyer privileges are still good.

All of the usernames have positive feedback as recently as yesterday. I am not
sure if there are more than these 4 usernames, though it seems quite possible.

So what is going on? This person is clearly a drop shipper. I did not think
that was against the rules as long as you are not selling from a BrickLink store
(where you obviously wouldn't have the inventory on-hand which is against
the rules).

If it's not against the rules why have their buyer privileges been revoked
on the first 3 usernames? How did the buyer privileges get revoked on the 2nd
and 3rd username without even receiving a negative feedback? Should I report
this newest username?

Does anyone have any info on this or have they noticed this person doing this
in their store? Any info or guidance on this would be appreciated.

-Pete

Looks like the latest username has had their buying privileges removed and they
have now placed another order in my store under a new username.

BrickLink has taken away their buying privileges at least 4 times now which would
indicate they have done something wrong. However, I have not seen any wrongdoing
so I have no reason to report them. If an admin wants to fill me in on what's
going on I can send them information, otherwise I will just carry on as they
have been a very good customer.

-Pete
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Location:  USA, New York
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Store: Shiny Stuff
In Selling, par016 writes:
  
Looks like the latest username has had their buying privileges removed and they
have now placed another order in my store under a new username.

BrickLink has taken away their buying privileges at least 4 times now which would
indicate they have done something wrong. However, I have not seen any wrongdoing
so I have no reason to report them. If an admin wants to fill me in on what's
going on I can send them information, otherwise I will just carry on as they
have been a very good customer.

-Pete


This buyer account has just been disabled, too, for whatever reason:
https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=piano201


Having just re-read this whole conversation, I find it to be a strange presumption
that buyers like this are assumed to be re-selling items that they have purchased
here on BrickLink. No one has shown proof of buyers like this doing any re-selling
on any venue or even any intent to re-sell. Even so, buying from BrickLink sellers
with the intent to re-sell is NOT against any rules, is it?

It might be better to assume these people are simply BUYING Lego to keep and
build stuff. People all over the world love to build stuff with Lego products,
and there are people all over the world who build amazing and very creative stuff
with Lego. A lot of people do not have easy access to the Lego they want, so
they come to BrickLink to buy what they want. I am pretty sure that is the founding
principle of Bricklink and its founder, Dan Jezek.

In any case, it should not matter what a buyer chooses to do with their purchases
or where they have them sent to.

If a buyer creates an order and makes proper payment from what appears to be
a valid payment source and the order is being sent to a valid address, I do not
why see why sellers should be unhappy or why BrickLink would consider any of
this against any rules for buyers.

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Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Store: Faber Family Bricks
In Selling, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  If a buyer creates an order and makes proper payment from what appears to be
a valid payment source and the order is being sent to a valid address, I do not
why see why sellers should be unhappy or why BrickLink would consider any of
this against any rules for buyers.

Yes - I know I've had a couple of resellers/drop-shippers buy from me - I
don't see it as an issue. Additionally I've had some BL sellers buy from
me as well in order to resell. I can't see why that's a problem - I get
a sale at the price I asked.
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Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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  If a buyer creates an order and makes proper payment from what appears to be
a valid payment source and the order is being sent to a valid address, I do not
why see why sellers should be unhappy or why BrickLink would consider any of
this against any rules for buyers.

Same here - I simply don't care what people buy LEGO for.

But if this buyer has multiple accounts, especially while buying a buyer only
and shipping to the same address, I don't see how this is justified because
the ruler "one member one account" exists.
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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  If a buyer creates an order and makes proper payment from what appears to be
a valid payment source and the order is being sent to a valid address, I do not
why see why sellers should be unhappy or why BrickLink would consider any of
this against any rules for buyers.

I tend not to care if the addresses all match, although it annoys me if the drop
shipper lies saying it is a gift and not to include an invoice. Why not just
tell the truth if they don't want to their buyer to find out what they have
drop shipped an item to them at a cheaper price.
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Location:  USA, New York
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Store: Shiny Stuff
In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  If a buyer creates an order and makes proper payment from what appears to be
a valid payment source and the order is being sent to a valid address, I do not
why see why sellers should be unhappy or why BrickLink would consider any of
this against any rules for buyers.

I tend not to care if the addresses all match, although it annoys me if the drop
shipper lies saying it is a gift and not to include an invoice. Why not just
tell the truth if they don't want to their buyer to find out what they have
drop shipped an item to them at a cheaper price.

Again, you are assuming re-selling, which may not be the case at all.

The situation may be more about avoiding customs duties for the final buyer.
It is likely the request for no invoices is so that the aggregator at the address
you are sending to does not have to actually open each package to remove any
invoices before packing multiple BL orders into a single parcel to send to the
final buyer (in a different country).

Also, most aggregators likely prefer to NOT have to open the packages they receive
so that they are not liable for any discrepancies that may occur, such as missing,
incorrect, or damaged items once the re-packed and re-shipped orders are received
by the final recipient.

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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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  Again, you are assuming re-selling, which may not be the case at all.

Not just reselling but drop-shipping. In most cases I think it is a correct assumption.
Often it is easy to cross check drop sellers for the same product on amazon.
I'm fine with both. Reselling is definitely OK, and I don't care what
someone does after they have bought and received an order. Drop-shipping I'm
fine with if they are honest about it.