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 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 13:23
 Subject: Responsibility
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Heartbricker (18394)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 13:27
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yorbrick (1188)

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In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.

That is not a mistake, it is fraud and should be reported to admins. If the account
owner is openly admitting to using a stolen credit card then they should be banned.
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 13:30
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rab1234 (2013)

Location:  USA, North Carolina
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Usually I'm all in favor of refund and move on, but this one's a bit
ridiculous that they won't cover your PayPal fees on an attempted cancellation
of a $350 order. Unfortunately I'm not sure what your alternatives are.
If you ship it out, couldn't they just demand a return and you're back
in the same boat?



In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 14:14
 Subject: Re: Responsibility
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zorbanj (837)

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In Problem Order, rab1234 writes:

   Unfortunately I'm not sure what your alternatives are.

Do nothing until a case is opened or a chargeback is filed in PayPal. Don't
respond to anything until right before the deadline. Appeal an adverse decision.
Be petty and drag this out.


   If you ship it out, couldn't they just demand a return and you're back
in the same boat?

Yes, and you might not get your stuff back.
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 14:58
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Heartbricker (18394)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Problem Order, zorbanj writes:
  In Problem Order, rab1234 writes:

   Unfortunately I'm not sure what your alternatives are.

Do nothing until a case is opened or a chargeback is filed in PayPal. Don't
respond to anything until right before the deadline. Appeal an adverse decision.
Be petty and drag this out.


   If you ship it out, couldn't they just demand a return and you're back
in the same boat?

Yes, and you might not get your stuff back.

We like the idea of wasting their time just as they have ours (the eye for an
eye approach) but our general spirit is to remove negativity from our orbit as
fast as possible.
We're grateful that admin has taken swift action to prevent this from happening
to others.
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 14:49
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Heartbricker (18394)

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In Problem Order, rab1234 writes:
  Usually I'm all in favor of refund and move on, but this one's a bit
ridiculous that they won't cover your PayPal fees on an attempted cancellation
of a $350 order. Unfortunately I'm not sure what your alternatives are.
If you ship it out, couldn't they just demand a return and you're back
in the same boat?

Again, this isn't a big deal for us, just cheesed that we put the work for
a parent with no compassion or sense of responsibility who's raising the
next generation in the same manner.
99.99% of our customers are grateful customers.

We heard a great humorous sentence this week:
"sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug"


  


In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 15:12
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In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  […]
We heard a great humorous sentence this week:
"sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug"
 
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 17:47
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Heartbricker (18394)

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In Problem Order, SylvainLS writes:
  In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  […]
We heard a great humorous sentence this week:
"sometimes you're the windshield and sometimes you're the bug"

LOVE IT! haha
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 13:34
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Heartbricker (18394)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Store: Heart Bricker
In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.

Bricklink Admin was very helpful and terminated the account,
We have a good stream of order and even though it hurts (our employees make good
wages, this is an hour to pack and an hour to return in addition to paypal fees),
it's the price of doing business and we can afford it- we're happy this
didn't happen to a user with less resources.
Hope everyone has a good weekend.
THB
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 13:55
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rab1234 (2013)

Location:  USA, North Carolina
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great attitude!


In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.

Bricklink Admin was very helpful and terminated the account,
We have a good stream of order and even though it hurts (our employees make good
wages, this is an hour to pack and an hour to return in addition to paypal fees),
it's the price of doing business and we can afford it- we're happy this
didn't happen to a user with less resources.
Hope everyone has a good weekend.
THB
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 15:23
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infinibrix (5059)

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In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  
Bricklink Admin was very helpful and terminated the account,
We have a good stream of order and even though it hurts (our employees make good
wages, this is an hour to pack and an hour to return in addition to paypal fees),
it's the price of doing business and we can afford it- we're happy this
didn't happen to a user with less resources.
Hope everyone has a good weekend.
THB

If you speak to paypal they will refund your fees in these situations
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 13:52
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jennnifer (3542)

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In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.

'You fix our mistake at your expense!' Gee, that's nice.

Jen
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 14:42
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Heartbricker (18394)

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In Problem Order, jennnifer writes:
  In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.

'You fix our mistake at your expense!' Gee, that's nice.

Jen

Yeah, this was a great opportunity for that mother to teach her kid to take responsibility,
instead she's enabling and validating it.
No compassion for small family business either.
Oh well, moving on
 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 22:15
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In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  In Problem Order, jennnifer writes:
  In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.

'You fix our mistake at your expense!' Gee, that's nice.

Jen

Yeah, this was a great opportunity for that mother to teach her kid to take responsibility,
instead she's enabling and validating it.
No compassion for small family business either.
Oh well, moving on

At least one good thing, because you took it up with admin and their account
was deregistered, now they can't leave you a negative retaliatory feedback.

Jim
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: Apr 1, 2022 14:16
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In Problem Order, Heartbricker writes:
  This was a 61 lot $350+ paid order that we already packed.
We were contacted by both mother and son, neither of them agreed to be responsible
for the mistake.
We offered to refund minus our PayPal fees, they declined.

Man, that person has serious credit problems. Glad the account got terminated
before he made a bigger mess.