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| | | Author: | Bfbrinkley  | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 13:11 | | Subject: | Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 327 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Never heard of this person/group and can't find much on their products. It
appears they use mostly Lego and they customize the rest? Anyone have any experience
with their products and if they're as valuable as Lego brand? Thanks!
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 14:08 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 103 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Bfbrinkley writes:
| | Never heard of this person/group and can't find much on their products. It
appears they use mostly Lego and they customize the rest? Anyone have any experience
with their products and if they're as valuable as Lego brand? Thanks!
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No idea what you're talking about.
If it's a seller on BrickLink why not posting a link to it?
It's allowed.
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| | | | | | | Author: | HC | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | no seller on bricklink...it is a site for customised figures |
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| | | | | Author: | HC | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 14:17 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| hi,
Yes...I did buy some of their figures [starwars characters that lego did not
make then]
but it was many years ago.
just checked the site again and .oh.man...the have so much now.
back then they had maybe 10% of what they offer now.
and yes..they use real lego as basis but the custom heads/headgear is just hard
plastic like the fake lego,but good quality as far as I remember
but over the years I got radical and dumped all un-real stuff.
and valueble as lego?...I think not..it is more for fun to have characters that
lego does not make
In General, Bfbrinkley writes:
| | Never heard of this person/group and can't find much on their products. It
appears they use mostly Lego and they customize the rest? Anyone have any experience
with their products and if they're as valuable as Lego brand? Thanks!
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| | | | | | | Author: | Biglesdug | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 14:46 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, HC writes:
| | hi,
Yes...I did buy some of their figures [starwars characters that lego did not
make then]
but it was many years ago.
just checked the site again and .oh.man...the have so much now.
back then they had maybe 10% of what they offer now.
and yes..they use real lego as basis but the custom heads/headgear is just hard
plastic like the fake lego,but good quality as far as I remember
but over the years I got radical and dumped all un-real stuff.
and valueble as lego?...I think not..it is more for fun to have characters that
lego does not make
In General, Bfbrinkley writes:
| | Never heard of this person/group and can't find much on their products. It
appears they use mostly Lego and they customize the rest? Anyone have any experience
with their products and if they're as valuable as Lego brand? Thanks!
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His older custom figures go for big $$. I had a Boss Nass figure I got in a lot
that I sold for around $400.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | HC | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 18:21 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| oh..yes..that was one of them..with a custom jacket..
now I am sorry i didn't hold on to it longer...grrr
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His older custom figures go for big $$. I had a Boss Nass figure I got in a lot
that I sold for around $400.
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| | | | | Author: | tEoS | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 14:38 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 101 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Christo was one of the top custom minifig designers back in the early-mid 2000s
on ebay. The figures had premium pad printing back when most others were using
decals. I think the figures were shipped from South Africa and sold for about
$35-50 each.
That is all I can recall at the moment.
In General, Bfbrinkley writes:
| | Never heard of this person/group and can't find much on their products. It
appears they use mostly Lego and they customize the rest? Anyone have any experience
with their products and if they're as valuable as Lego brand? Thanks!
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| | | | | Author: | Elkenwood | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 16:18 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 109 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Bfbrinkley writes:
| | Never heard of this person/group and can't find much on their products. It
appears they use mostly Lego and they customize the rest? Anyone have any experience
with their products and if they're as valuable as Lego brand? Thanks!
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I consider Christo Brown to be the pioneer of Lego minifigure customization.
I'm very familiar with his products and have a few. They're of exceptional
quality, even the ones dating back 15+ years ago. He started in 2004 and was
doing professional quality pad printing and ABS molding during a time when waterslide
decals were revolutionary in that sub-genre of Lego. His first products were
based on the first Lego Star Wars video game, which featured a lot of characters
Lego didn't offer at the time. I'm a big fan of his early work because
at that time, Lego Star Wars had a very different aesthetic, with minifigures
appearance being more "lego-y" and less movie accurate and detailed, like we
see now.
All of his figures are custom printed on real Lego, except for custom molded
pieces. I know Citizen Brick recycles Lego to make their custom injection molded
parts, but I believe Christo just uses a similar ABS plastic.
Christo is a legitimate vendor. Whether or not you view custom Lego figures as
legitimate "Lego" is a matter of perspective. Given the extremely limited production,
artistic integrity and price point, I think Christo's figures are an art
toy using Lego as a medium, rather than a counterfeit/clone brand/etc.
In terms of being "as valuable as Lego Brand", you're spending $100 minimum
per figure, with some figures reaching over $5000 in value depending on how intricate
they are and how many are produced. Christo does not mass produce things. His
early works exist in quantities of less than 10-30. They're a bit more scaled
up now, but still in relatively tiny batches. Which makes them special considering
the complex and expensive production that goes into each one. So in that regard,
they're a lot more valuable than your average official Lego items.
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| | | | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Mar 7, 2022 20:52 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Regardless of the quality, this still reeks of copyright infringement. I’m certainly
no lawyer, but I can’t understand how so many people get away with selling fake
licensed figures. I guess Disney and LEGO just don’t care enough to enforce their
own IP. I’m constantly reporting listings and stores on other marketplaces, but
they don’t get taken down… personally, I just hate finding counterfeit in my
used purchases and I hate people getting scammed.
In General, Elkenwood writes:
| | In General, Bfbrinkley writes:
| | Never heard of this person/group and can't find much on their products. It
appears they use mostly Lego and they customize the rest? Anyone have any experience
with their products and if they're as valuable as Lego brand? Thanks!
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I consider Christo Brown to be the pioneer of Lego minifigure customization.
I'm very familiar with his products and have a few. They're of exceptional
quality, even the ones dating back 15+ years ago. He started in 2004 and was
doing professional quality pad printing and ABS molding during a time when waterslide
decals were revolutionary in that sub-genre of Lego. His first products were
based on the first Lego Star Wars video game, which featured a lot of characters
Lego didn't offer at the time. I'm a big fan of his early work because
at that time, Lego Star Wars had a very different aesthetic, with minifigures
appearance being more "lego-y" and less movie accurate and detailed, like we
see now.
All of his figures are custom printed on real Lego, except for custom molded
pieces. I know Citizen Brick recycles Lego to make their custom injection molded
parts, but I believe Christo just uses a similar ABS plastic.
Christo is a legitimate vendor. Whether or not you view custom Lego figures as
legitimate "Lego" is a matter of perspective. Given the extremely limited production,
artistic integrity and price point, I think Christo's figures are an art
toy using Lego as a medium, rather than a counterfeit/clone brand/etc.
In terms of being "as valuable as Lego Brand", you're spending $100 minimum
per figure, with some figures reaching over $5000 in value depending on how intricate
they are and how many are produced. Christo does not mass produce things. His
early works exist in quantities of less than 10-30. They're a bit more scaled
up now, but still in relatively tiny batches. Which makes them special considering
the complex and expensive production that goes into each one. So in that regard,
they're a lot more valuable than your average official Lego items.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Elkenwood | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2022 02:07 | | Subject: | Re: Who is Christo7108 & are the products legit? | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rab1234 writes:
| | Regardless of the quality, this still reeks of copyright infringement. I’m certainly
no lawyer, but I can’t understand how so many people get away with selling fake
licensed figures. I guess Disney and LEGO just don’t care enough to enforce their
own IP. I’m constantly reporting listings and stores on other marketplaces, but
they don’t get taken down… personally, I just hate finding counterfeit in my
used purchases and I hate people getting scammed.
In General, Elkenwood writes:
| | In General, Bfbrinkley writes:
| | Never heard of this person/group and can't find much on their products. It
appears they use mostly Lego and they customize the rest? Anyone have any experience
with their products and if they're as valuable as Lego brand? Thanks!
|
I consider Christo Brown to be the pioneer of Lego minifigure customization.
I'm very familiar with his products and have a few. They're of exceptional
quality, even the ones dating back 15+ years ago. He started in 2004 and was
doing professional quality pad printing and ABS molding during a time when waterslide
decals were revolutionary in that sub-genre of Lego. His first products were
based on the first Lego Star Wars video game, which featured a lot of characters
Lego didn't offer at the time. I'm a big fan of his early work because
at that time, Lego Star Wars had a very different aesthetic, with minifigures
appearance being more "lego-y" and less movie accurate and detailed, like we
see now.
All of his figures are custom printed on real Lego, except for custom molded
pieces. I know Citizen Brick recycles Lego to make their custom injection molded
parts, but I believe Christo just uses a similar ABS plastic.
Christo is a legitimate vendor. Whether or not you view custom Lego figures as
legitimate "Lego" is a matter of perspective. Given the extremely limited production,
artistic integrity and price point, I think Christo's figures are an art
toy using Lego as a medium, rather than a counterfeit/clone brand/etc.
In terms of being "as valuable as Lego Brand", you're spending $100 minimum
per figure, with some figures reaching over $5000 in value depending on how intricate
they are and how many are produced. Christo does not mass produce things. His
early works exist in quantities of less than 10-30. They're a bit more scaled
up now, but still in relatively tiny batches. Which makes them special considering
the complex and expensive production that goes into each one. So in that regard,
they're a lot more valuable than your average official Lego items.
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In my mind, this is a grey area when it comes to copyright laws. Legally speaking,
I'm sure a case could be made for copyright violation, but essentially all
fan art is copyright infringement. This isn't a big scaled up production,
it's one guy, and pricing is non-competitive. Which legally has no bearing,
but morally does, in my opinion. Christo making 100 of a minifigure and selling
them for $100+ each isn't exactly the same as Lepin making several hundred
thousand in batches from stolen molds with copied prints and then flooding the
market with them for $2 each. I think that is a much realer threat to Lego and
IP owners.
I don't think anyone would feel scammed or disappointed getting a Christo
piece by "accident", if that would even be possible. I'd say that's more
akin to a "jackpot" moment. 
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