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 Author: woodelf View Messages Posted By woodelf
 Posted: Feb 19, 2022 16:24
 Subject: can't ship to Italy?!
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 Topic: Shipping
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woodelf (264)

Location:  USA, Minnesota
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I just had a buyer from Italy, and since it's a large and valuable set, I
was double checking things like insurance options. In the process, I discovered
that according to USPS, it is forbidden to mail "toys not made wholly of wood"
to Italy. Some further research shows that this is an Italian law that has been
on the books for quite a while—it frequently shows up in lists of "wacky laws"
and such.

Should I be concerned? Anybody know if this applies to small personal sales,
as opposed to large commercial businesses? Is it pretty strictly/reliably enforced?
(I'm shipping from the US, if that makes a difference.)

(I've sent the buyer a message to confirm that they're aware of this
law and either know it's not really enforced or are ok with channcing it.
But no response yet.)

-Nat
 Author: Fenneke_Jose View Messages Posted By Fenneke_Jose
 Posted: Feb 19, 2022 18:14
 Subject: Re: can't ship to Italy?!
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Fenneke_Jose (1768)

Location:  Netherlands, Noord-Holland
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Jul 7, 2006 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Castle Shop - Sets & More
In Shipping, woodelf writes:
  I just had a buyer from Italy, and since it's a large and valuable set, I
was double checking things like insurance options. In the process, I discovered
that according to USPS, it is forbidden to mail "toys not made wholly of wood"
to Italy. Some further research shows that this is an Italian law that has been
on the books for quite a while—it frequently shows up in lists of "wacky laws"
and such.

Should I be concerned? Anybody know if this applies to small personal sales,
as opposed to large commercial businesses? Is it pretty strictly/reliably enforced?
(I'm shipping from the US, if that makes a difference.)

(I've sent the buyer a message to confirm that they're aware of this
law and either know it's not really enforced or are ok with channcing it.
But no response yet.)

-Nat

I have send a lot of orders from the Netherlands to Italy and they all arived.
So I won't worry about it to much.

Kind regards,

José
 Author: Brick1932 View Messages Posted By Brick1932
 Posted: Feb 20, 2022 02:37
 Subject: Re: can't ship to Italy?!
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Brick1932 (1937)

Location:  Belgium, Limburg
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So far I have shipped 64 orders to Italy with different couriers (like DPD -
Mondial Relay - PostNL and Bpost) and they all arrived without any problem.
 Author: hedgehog_bricks View Messages Posted By hedgehog_bricks
 Posted: Feb 20, 2022 03:45
 Subject: Re: can't ship to Italy?!
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hedgehog_bricks (1851)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Shipping, woodelf writes:
  I just had a buyer from Italy, and since it's a large and valuable set, I
was double checking things like insurance options. In the process, I discovered
that according to USPS, it is forbidden to mail "toys not made wholly of wood"
to Italy. Some further research shows that this is an Italian law that has been
on the books for quite a while—it frequently shows up in lists of "wacky laws"
and such.

I've sent items from the UK to Italy within the last 12 months just fine.

However, Italy were experiencing significant delays (as in months rather than
weeks) at customs a month or two ago. I stopped selling to Italy due to this.
I haven't seen anything to indicate that the situation has improved.

Jonathan
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 20, 2022 04:57
 Subject: Re: can't ship to Italy?!
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Teup (6597)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Shipping, woodelf writes:
  I just had a buyer from Italy, and since it's a large and valuable set, I
was double checking things like insurance options. In the process, I discovered
that according to USPS, it is forbidden to mail "toys not made wholly of wood"
to Italy. Some further research shows that this is an Italian law that has been
on the books for quite a while—it frequently shows up in lists of "wacky laws"
and such.

Should I be concerned? Anybody know if this applies to small personal sales,
as opposed to large commercial businesses? Is it pretty strictly/reliably enforced?
(I'm shipping from the US, if that makes a difference.)

(I've sent the buyer a message to confirm that they're aware of this
law and either know it's not really enforced or are ok with channcing it.
But no response yet.)

-Nat

I never understand this thing with EU countries having weird import rules and
how they can be real. If they were real, then surely businesses would have popped
up that simply let you send it to another EU country and then send it to Italy
from there? There's free traffic within the EU after all.
 Author: Akir View Messages Posted By Akir
 Posted: Feb 21, 2022 10:49
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Akir (120)

Location:  Austria, Steiermark
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In Shipping, woodelf writes:
  I just had a buyer from Italy, and since it's a large and valuable set, I
was double checking things like insurance options. In the process, I discovered
that according to USPS, it is forbidden to mail "toys not made wholly of wood"
to Italy. Some further research shows that this is an Italian law that has been
on the books for quite a while—it frequently shows up in lists of "wacky laws"
and such.

Should I be concerned? Anybody know if this applies to small personal sales,
as opposed to large commercial businesses? Is it pretty strictly/reliably enforced?
(I'm shipping from the US, if that makes a difference.)

(I've sent the buyer a message to confirm that they're aware of this
law and either know it's not really enforced or are ok with channcing it.
But no response yet.)

-Nat

It might have to do something with that old law from the 1950s/60s(?), there
were some import restrictions, which is why the Minitalia brand existed. But
the brand is long gone, and so are the restrictions, I'm sure. There are
enough mad troubles with sending stuff to Italy (especially from outside the
EU), legal and otherwise, but that one I've never heard of.