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 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 06:20
 Subject: PAB & B&P Merging
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Could it possibly be a good thing for PAB & B&P merging? Currently the TLG Retail
store managers are restricted to an order form which only allows them to choose
a limited number of items from the 1600 that are available to PAB. With the addition
of the B&P elements might they have a wider choice to make available? Is that
good or not so good. Depends on how you want to look at ir really.
 Author: manganschlamm View Messages Posted By manganschlamm
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 06:48
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In LEGO, calsbricks writes:
  Could it possibly be a good thing for PAB & B&P merging? Currently the TLG Retail
store managers are restricted to an order form which only allows them to choose
a limited number of items from the 1600 that are available to PAB. With the addition
of the B&P elements might they have a wider choice to make available? Is that
good or not so good. Depends on how you want to look at ir really.

Another issue concerns the current limitation to 200 of each part that you order
from B&P. That limit is not in PAB. So what will be the new limit?
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 07:46
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In LEGO, manganschlamm writes:
  In LEGO, calsbricks writes:
  Could it possibly be a good thing for PAB & B&P merging? Currently the TLG Retail
store managers are restricted to an order form which only allows them to choose
a limited number of items from the 1600 that are available to PAB. With the addition
of the B&P elements might they have a wider choice to make available? Is that
good or not so good. Depends on how you want to look at ir really.

Another issue concerns the current limitation to 200 of each part that you order
from B&P. That limit is not in PAB. So what will be the new limit?

Obviously you mean online as there will not be a limit if bought through a Lego
retail store.

There are ways of going over the 200 limit on line. We have done that on a number
of occasions
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 07:55
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  Another issue concerns the current limitation to 200 of each part that you order
from B&P. That limit is not in PAB. So what will be the new limit?

No doubt they will say when the service goes live. And maybe they will fix the
workarounds that allow you to order more than whatever limits they set in a single
order.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 06:50
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In LEGO, calsbricks writes:
  Could it possibly be a good thing for PAB & B&P merging? Currently the TLG Retail
store managers are restricted to an order form which only allows them to choose
a limited number of items from the 1600 that are available to PAB. With the addition
of the B&P elements might they have a wider choice to make available? Is that
good or not so good. Depends on how you want to look at ir really.

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 Author: Dino1 View Messages Posted By Dino1
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 07:55
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In LEGO, calsbricks writes:
  Could it possibly be a good thing for PAB & B&P merging? Currently the TLG Retail
store managers are restricted to an order form which only allows them to choose
a limited number of items from the 1600 that are available to PAB. With the addition
of the B&P elements might they have a wider choice to make available? Is that
good or not so good. Depends on how you want to look at ir really.


Overall, it will not be good for us.
With BL's data, it will be easier to adjust prices and quantities to the
market and, most importantly, they will be unbeatable for us in terms of shipping
costs.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  Overall, it will not be good for us.
With BL's data, it will be easier to adjust prices and quantities to the
market and, most importantly, they will be unbeatable for us in terms of shipping
costs.

Are you thinking that they will adjust their official prices based on the selling
prices here? I doubt that will happen, as they have said that they will have
consistent prices for the same part in different colours, whereas that doesn't
happen on BL.
 Author: bricksonmove View Messages Posted By bricksonmove
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 08:20
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In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  
  Overall, it will not be good for us.
With BL's data, it will be easier to adjust prices and quantities to the
market and, most importantly, they will be unbeatable for us in terms of shipping
costs.

Are you thinking that they will adjust their official prices based on the selling
prices here? I doubt that will happen, as they have said that they will have
consistent prices for the same part in different colours, whereas that doesn't
happen on BL.

Gave you an example of the above 1 x 2 plates most of them go for less that
lego atm... This will 1 they will target I am picking... A week or so will
tell after they do the change to USA and Canada to see what they do with pricing....
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 09:13
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In LEGO, bricksonmove writes:
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  Overall, it will not be good for us.
With BL's data, it will be easier to adjust prices and quantities to the
market and, most importantly, they will be unbeatable for us in terms of shipping
costs.

Are you thinking that they will adjust their official prices based on the selling
prices here? I doubt that will happen, as they have said that they will have
consistent prices for the same part in different colours, whereas that doesn't
happen on BL.

Gave you an example of the above 1 x 2 plates most of them go for less that
lego atm... This will 1 they will target I am picking... A week or so will
tell after they do the change to USA and Canada to see what they do with pricing....

I don't think they will work like that, trying to undercut the secondary
market. Their primary goal is to sell sets, not parts. They tend to fix their
part prices on PAB/BandP and rarely change them, I cannot see them changing them
every week monitoring sales here. There are some parts in some colours that tend
to be very cheap here because they are not wanted but expensive there because
of the manufacturing price. They have also said they aim for price consistency
across the same part, so they cannot price match the price of all colours.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 08:18
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In LEGO, Dino1 writes:
  In LEGO, calsbricks writes:
  Could it possibly be a good thing for PAB & B&P merging? Currently the TLG Retail
store managers are restricted to an order form which only allows them to choose
a limited number of items from the 1600 that are available to PAB. With the addition
of the B&P elements might they have a wider choice to make available? Is that
good or not so good. Depends on how you want to look at ir really.


Overall, it will not be good for us.
With BL's data, it will be easier to adjust prices and quantities to the
market and, most importantly, they will be unbeatable for us in terms of shipping
costs.

Agreed to a certain extent but not in shipping times (Unless they alter that
as well)- If we have access to the items on PAB walls then they will also have
a hard time competing with BL Price. For example look at 2 x 4 bricks. You can
get 110 in a large cup. Over here that is 10p each roughly. Find a 2 x 4 on TLG
PAB or B&P at that price. So it may well just be swings and roundabouts but BL
delivery will always be better.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  Agreed to a certain extent but not in shipping times (Unless they alter that
as well)- If we have access to the items on PAB walls then they will also have
a hard time competing with BL Price. For example look at 2 x 4 bricks. You can
get 110 in a large cup. Over here that is 10p each roughly. Find a 2 x 4 on TLG
PAB or B&P at that price. So it may well just be swings and roundabouts but BL
delivery will always be better.

If you are buying for yourself and you stack them, you can get 165+ 2x4 bricks
in a large cup. But of course it is the online PAB price that matters - LEGO
charges 19p a brick and I doubt that will change, so substantially more than
at the PAB wall and here.

What might happen though is that parts that are common in one colour but rare
in another are affected. If they bring out, for example the masonry brick in
a new colour in just one set (like they did reddish brown in Home Alone) then
that will be priced consistently across colours at LEGO online (currently 13p)
and that will essentially set the maximum price of the 'rare' colour
here. Assuming, that is, that they stock the brick in that colour.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Jan 14, 2022 13:03
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One thing I've always found odd is that you can buy a plain pair of legs
on PAB for 36p but on BAP many of those same colours are around 58p so things
like that need leveling up for sure as it doesn't look good on Lego from
a customer perspective to be charged differently based on how they shop so they
are doing the right thing in that regards

In truth much of their pricing structure needs reviewing anyway as far as I can
see as some of it just doesn't make sense. I mean why are plain medium black
legs 3 times the price of standard black legs? (Similar design yet dont even
require as much plastic!)

I do accept that it makes sense that the pricing of a part should be influenced
by the number of sets the production run is catering for. A single part manufactured
for only one set is obviously not as efficient use of resources compared with
a production run of a part that is being used multiple times in lots of different
sets but those black medium legs are used a lot of times over now!

I would of thought pricing should be based on other factors too including cost
of molds, complexity of part, volume of materials/processes required to make
said part and potentially a difference in the cost of producing certain colours
though Lego have pretty much already said that they plan to make the price of
colours consistent?

Either way it sometimes feels like they just pull a price out of a hat as there
are certainly a lot of anomalies between the cost of similar parts where the
factors I've mentioned don't always seem to have any baring on pricing
structure at all