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| | | Author: | Stellar  | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2022 07:06 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.
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There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | I always assumed the 45 in Slope 45 means 45 degrees, and in Slope 33 it means
33 degrees, however if you calculate the exact degrees based on brick measures
it is not.
A standard 1 x 1 brick measures 7.9375 mm x 9.5250 mm (length/width x height
without the stud).
Building with Slope 45 bricks results in a slope of 50 degrees, not 45.
Building with Slope 33 bricks results in a slope of 31 degrees, not 33.
As is well know, assumptions are the mother of all f*ups, so I most likely assumed
wrong 
Therefore... just curious, where do the 45 and 33 come from?
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| | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2022 09:11 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.
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There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.
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IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | I always assumed the 45 in Slope 45 means 45 degrees, and in Slope 33 it means
33 degrees, however if you calculate the exact degrees based on brick measures
it is not.
A standard 1 x 1 brick measures 7.9375 mm x 9.5250 mm (length/width x height
without the stud).
Building with Slope 45 bricks results in a slope of 50 degrees, not 45.
Building with Slope 33 bricks results in a slope of 31 degrees, not 33.
As is well know, assumptions are the mother of all f*ups, so I most likely assumed
wrong
Therefore... just curious, where do the 45 and 33 come from?
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| | | | | | | Author: | Shiny_Stuff | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2022 09:36 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.
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There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.
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IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).
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The degree in the name gives them A NAME -- something to call them by.
I have been playing with LEGO for over 40 years and have always used the degree
of 45 or 33 to indicate what piece I am talking about (with other people).
The degree of slope is how many people label storage containers, too, such as
a label that reads 33 Degree Slopes, etc.
I have a Lego friend who is even older than me (he is now 64 years old) and has
been playing with Lego his entire life. He actually NEVER calls them Slope --
his word is BEVEL BRICKS -- but he says 45 degree Bevel Brick or 33 degree
Bevel Brick and I know EXACTLY which pieces he is talking about.
And your example doesn't work with these pieces:
Slope 2 x 3 versus Slope 3 x 2. They are NOT the same as one is 33 and the
other is 45.
In fact, more than one seller on BL has shipped me the WRONG piece when I have
ordered Slope 2 x 3 and they sent me Slope 2 x 3.
We definitely need to keep the degree in the names, even if it is not exactly
correct mathematically.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Shiny_Stuff | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2022 09:50 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.
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There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.
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IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).
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The degree in the name gives them A NAME -- something to call them by.
I have been playing with LEGO for over 40 years and have always used the degree
of 45 or 33 to indicate what piece I am talking about (with other people).
The degree of slope is how many people label storage containers, too, such as
a label that reads 33 Degree Slopes, etc.
I have a Lego friend who is even older than me (he is now 64 years old) and has
been playing with Lego his entire life. He actually NEVER calls them Slope --
his word is BEVEL BRICKS -- but he says 45 degree Bevel Brick or 33 degree
Bevel Brick and I know EXACTLY which pieces he is talking about.
And your example doesn't work with these pieces:
Slope 2 x 3 versus Slope 3 x 2. They are NOT the same as one is 33 and the
other is 45.
In fact, more than one seller on BL has shipped me the WRONG piece when I have
ordered Slope 2 x 3 and they sent me Slope 2 x 3.
We definitely need to keep the degree in the names, even if it is not exactly
correct mathematically.
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And Here is the origin of the name Bevelled Brick:
In 1987 catalogs, LEGO decided to name 33 degree slopes as 25 degree slopes
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2022 11:42 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
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And Here is the origin of the name Bevelled Brick:
In 1987 catalogs, LEGO decided to name 33 degree slopes as 25 degree slopes
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Looking at the inventory of 5152-1 it contains Slope 33 not 25 as the set implies
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2022 11:54 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
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| | In 1987 catalogs, LEGO decided to name 33 degree slopes as 25 degree slopes
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Looking at the inventory of 5152-1 it contains Slope 33 not 25 as the set implies
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and a couple others contain no disks, contrarily to what the set names imply
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2022 10:52 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.
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IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).
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So how about you ignore them, and other people that want to use them to identify
parts that naturally fit together can use them. I find there are many keywords
added to descriptions that I never use and are therefore superfluous (at least
to my way of searching).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 1, 2022 18:38 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | | | There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.
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IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).
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So how about you ignore them, and other people that want to use them to identify
parts that naturally fit together can use them. I find there are many keywords
added to descriptions that I never use and are therefore superfluous (at least
to my way of searching).
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In all my 50 years of playing, collecting, buying, selling and talking about
lego slopes I never ever had the need of something like a 45 degree roof or 33
degree rampage I just wanted to built a good looking roof .
So I never gave it any thought or attention, indeed just ignoring it most
of the time. The one time it is practical is when sorting the slopes online to
find all the ones alike.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2022 04:38 | | Subject: | Re: What the 45 means in Slope 45 ? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | | | There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.
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IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).
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So how about you ignore them, and other people that want to use them to identify
parts that naturally fit together can use them. I find there are many keywords
added to descriptions that I never use and are therefore superfluous (at least
to my way of searching).
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In all my 50 years of playing, collecting, buying, selling and talking about
lego slopes I never ever had the need of something like a 45 degree roof or 33
degree rampage I just wanted to built a good looking roof .
So I never gave it any thought or attention, indeed just ignoring it most
of the time. The one time it is practical is when sorting the slopes online to
find all the ones alike.
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And that is the point of the label, knowing which ones work together.
For example, [p=3046a]
No doubt you can come up with dimensions to code up the system that will be the
same as regular slopes, but the two character "45" (3 if you include a space)
is much more efficient. It doesn't matter what the exact angle is, just like
it doesn't matter if all the torsos with "ascot" have true ascot ties, or
neckerchiefs, or cravats, or whatever someone wants to call them. Learning it
is called an ascot here finds them all, so long as the term is used consistently.
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