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 Author: Nicolasamico37 View Messages Posted By Nicolasamico37
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 10:33
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Nicolasamico37 (1050)

Location:  France, Centre-Val de Loire
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Hi,
I remember seeing here long time ago a post about cigarette smell on NEW parts.
Would you always consider these NEW parts as NEW ?!

I am a non-smoker seller and that is specified on my Terms&conditions. All new
parts on my store are really new and without any bad smell.
As a buyer, I really don't like that disgusting smell and even the buyer
could lost new buyers, this should be specified on his (her) store terms...

I should have read more of the seller's Feedback before to place my order
!

Nicolas
 Author: Ossdorp View Messages Posted By Ossdorp
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 11:13
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Ossdorp (1638)

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Hi,

With cigarette small is not new to me.
But technically if you buy new parts from someone (except it is Sealed) you can’t
sell it as new anyway.

Tim


In Buying, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Hi,
I remember seeing here long time ago a post about cigarette smell on NEW parts.
Would you always consider these NEW parts as NEW ?!

I am a non-smoker seller and that is specified on my Terms&conditions. All new
parts on my store are really new and without any bad smell.
As a buyer, I really don't like that disgusting smell and even the buyer
could lost new buyers, this should be specified on his (her) store terms...

I should have read more of the seller's Feedback before to place my order
!

Nicolas
 Author: Nicolasamico37 View Messages Posted By Nicolasamico37
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 11:23
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Nicolasamico37 (1050)

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I bought these parts for me, I don't do reselling on my store.

Technically, parts are new, I can easily see that ; But the smell is really strong
and awful ! All I have to do is to write a neutral feedback, put everything outside
long enough for the smell to disappear, and don't buy on this store again
!
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 11:38
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In Buying, Ossdorp writes:
  Hi,

With cigarette small is not new to me.
But technically if you buy new parts from someone (except it is Sealed) you can’t
sell it as new anyway.

Sure you can, so long as you believe the seller is trustworthy. If a seller sells
new parts and you don't build with them, they are still in the same unused
condition.

Store buyouts would never happen if new parts became instantly used when changing
hands.
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 16:47
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rab1234 (1921)

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I would disagree based on the definition:
New Parts - Parts are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased
"as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been
handled only for sorting....

"accessory packs and Pick A Brick" are called out specifically as being ok, but
not Bricklink sellers. I would guess that's because there's no provenance
for the items bought on BL.

However, I guess it's unfortunately open to interpretation. Personally,
I'd never sell something I bought on BL as new unless it was still sealed.



In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, Ossdorp writes:
  Hi,

With cigarette small is not new to me.
But technically if you buy new parts from someone (except it is Sealed) you can’t
sell it as new anyway.

Sure you can, so long as you believe the seller is trustworthy. If a seller sells
new parts and you don't build with them, they are still in the same unused
condition.

Store buyouts would never happen if new parts became instantly used when changing
hands.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 17:22
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yorbrick (1182)

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In Buying, rab1234 writes:
  I would disagree based on the definition:
New Parts - Parts are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased
"as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been
handled only for sorting....

"accessory packs and Pick A Brick" are called out specifically as being ok, but
not Bricklink sellers. I would guess that's because there's no provenance
for the items bought on BL.

However, I guess it's unfortunately open to interpretation. Personally,
I'd never sell something I bought on BL as new unless it was still sealed.


Yes it is interpretation. There is nothing to say only sold by LEGO after the
such as, and such as implies it is not an exhaustive list. Whereas they do specifically
mention assembled by LEGO when taking apart assembled minifigs and selling the
parts. Buying parts as new from another seller and not using them means they
are not used. Plus PAB parts have no provenance either, someone could have put
them together in the bins. BAM parts are even worse, kids frequently build them
and dump them.

I frequently buy new minifigs in BL for a specific part, then sell off the bits
I don't want.
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 20:22
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rab1234 (1921)

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And I’ve sold used figs (including a $60 used fig) that the buyer turned around
and listed as new for double the price. I don’t trust a “new” bricklink item
and I’d never list something as new that I didn’t open myself.

In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, rab1234 writes:
  I would disagree based on the definition:
New Parts - Parts are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased
"as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been
handled only for sorting....

"accessory packs and Pick A Brick" are called out specifically as being ok, but
not Bricklink sellers. I would guess that's because there's no provenance
for the items bought on BL.

However, I guess it's unfortunately open to interpretation. Personally,
I'd never sell something I bought on BL as new unless it was still sealed.


Yes it is interpretation. There is nothing to say only sold by LEGO after the
such as, and such as implies it is not an exhaustive list. Whereas they do specifically
mention assembled by LEGO when taking apart assembled minifigs and selling the
parts. Buying parts as new from another seller and not using them means they
are not used. Plus PAB parts have no provenance either, someone could have put
them together in the bins. BAM parts are even worse, kids frequently build them
and dump them.

I frequently buy new minifigs in BL for a specific part, then sell off the bits
I don't want.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 22:35
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zorbanj (805)

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I would disagree. Definition states "another form such as accessory packs
or Pick A Brick". Accessory packs and Pick A Brick are examples of "another form".

Otherwise the definition would state:

New Parts - Parts are brand new, taken directly from new sets, accessory packs
or Pick A Brick
and have been handled only for sorting....



In Buying, rab1234 writes:
  I would disagree based on the definition:
New Parts - Parts are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased
"as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been
handled only for sorting....

"accessory packs and Pick A Brick" are called out specifically as being ok, but
not Bricklink sellers. I would guess that's because there's no provenance
for the items bought on BL.

However, I guess it's unfortunately open to interpretation. Personally,
I'd never sell something I bought on BL as new unless it was still sealed.
 Author: gabgenqc View Messages Posted By gabgenqc
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 11:49
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In Buying, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Hi,
I remember seeing here long time ago a post about cigarette smell on NEW parts.
Would you always consider these NEW parts as NEW ?!

I am a non-smoker seller and that is specified on my Terms&conditions. All new
parts on my store are really new and without any bad smell.
As a buyer, I really don't like that disgusting smell and even the buyer
could lost new buyers, this should be specified on his (her) store terms...

I should have read more of the seller's Feedback before to place my order
!

Nicolas

That's why you always need to read store terms before buying. I, too, wrote
in my store terms that I'm a smoke free house. I really think that, even
if the parts are new, the parts with cigarette smell should be cheaper than non-smoke
parts. You are right, the smell of cigarettes is really awful. Try to wash your
new parts in the washing machine. Hope it'll helps.
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Dec 8, 2021 14:21
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In Buying, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Hi,
I remember seeing here long time ago a post about cigarette smell on NEW parts.
Would you always consider these NEW parts as NEW ?!

Nicolas

As new as a smoker's lungs.
John P
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
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rab1234 (1921)

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I don't agree with it, but technically, they can be sold as new:
New Parts - Parts are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased
"as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been
handled only for sorting. These parts have never been used in any manner. If
a minifigure or part assembly was originally sold assembled by LEGO, its component
parts after disassembly can also be listed as new.

To get smoke smell out, soak them in vinegar. If really bad, keep them in there
a few hours submerged.



In Buying, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Hi,
I remember seeing here long time ago a post about cigarette smell on NEW parts.
Would you always consider these NEW parts as NEW ?!

I am a non-smoker seller and that is specified on my Terms&conditions. All new
parts on my store are really new and without any bad smell.
As a buyer, I really don't like that disgusting smell and even the buyer
could lost new buyers, this should be specified on his (her) store terms...

I should have read more of the seller's Feedback before to place my order
!

Nicolas
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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To get smoke smell out, soak them in vinegar. If really bad, keep them in there
a few hours submerged.


Then they smell like vinegar!
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In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  
  
To get smoke smell out, soak them in vinegar. If really bad, keep them in there
a few hours submerged.


Then they smell like vinegar!

Then add some salt and oil and they’ll smell and taste like fish & chips?


Anyway, vinegar can be rinced and pretty quickly “evaporates.”
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
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In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  
  
To get smoke smell out, soak them in vinegar. If really bad, keep them in there
a few hours submerged.


Then they smell like vinegar!

At what point do they again smell like Lego?
If they smell like vinegar and you put oil on them, do they smell like salad.
If someone at Lego production passes by the bagging machine and passes wind and
they arrive with a smell, is that still new and what Lego smells like out of
the factory. The Danes do have some weird tasting and smelling food` when dining.
I wouldn't even bring up the fact that Lego was produced in Juarez just
across the border from El Paso.

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 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
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Haha. Vinegar smell does disappear on its own pretty quickly. I’ve only ever
ended up with one cigarette smoke batch. I couldn’t even stand the smell so
I threw it all out except the figures. Soaked those overnight (outside) in 50/50
vinegar and the smell was gone totally in the morning. I’ve used vinegar on
a couple of other “old person house” batches too and it works great.

In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  
  
To get smoke smell out, soak them in vinegar. If really bad, keep them in there
a few hours submerged.


Then they smell like vinegar!
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In Buying, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Hi,
I remember seeing here long time ago a post about cigarette smell on NEW parts.
Would you always consider these NEW parts as NEW ?!

I am a non-smoker seller and that is specified on my Terms&conditions. All new
parts on my store are really new and without any bad smell.
As a buyer, I really don't like that disgusting smell and even the buyer
could lost new buyers, this should be specified on his (her) store terms...

I should have read more of the seller's Feedback before to place my order
!

Nicolas

Did you buy from this guy - https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?fdbType=2&u=joandjon25

Horrendous.
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Not this store, it was in another store in France.