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| | | Author: | BellaBricksUK  | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 09:34 | | Subject: | No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 273 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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| | | | | Author: | SimplyBricks | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 09:48 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 133 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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I think your ladies have their knickers in a twist!
It specifically says 'games and sports requisites' which has nothing
to do with Lego! Lego is a toy!
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| | | | | | | Author: | SimplyBricks | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 09:54 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 134 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SimplyBricks writes:
| | In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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I think your ladies have their knickers in a twist!
It specifically says 'games and sports requisites' which has nothing
to do with Lego! Lego is a toy!
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https://mobile-dictionary.reverso.net/en/english-definition/sports+requisites
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| | | | | | | Author: | antant7 | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 10:06 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 133 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SimplyBricks writes:
| | In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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I think your ladies have their knickers in a twist!
It specifically says 'games and sports requisites' which has nothing
to do with Lego! Lego is a toy!
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The way I read it, "Toys, games and sports requisites; parts and accessories
thereof" expands to:
- toys
- games
- sports requisites
- parts and accessories of toys
- parts and accessories of games
- parts and accessories of sports requisites
Interesting restrictions... I wonder what the thinking is behind them...
Even more interesting, from the Royal Mail page (https://www.royalmail.com/sending/international/country-guides/germany),
"Toy - Fidget Spinners" are explicitly named 
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 10:50 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SimplyBricks writes:
| | In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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I think your ladies have their knickers in a twist!
It specifically says 'games and sports requisites' which has nothing
to do with Lego! Lego is a toy!
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It literally says "toys" though? And even "parts and accessories" .. pretty accurate
description of LEGO.
I don't understand though A. Why there would be rules for some specific EU
countries at all? You can technically then send it to another EU country and
send it to those countries from there without a single check, it would be a completely
inconsistent rule. and B. Why precisely for Germany as well as France, exactly
the same rule, at the same time 
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 11:00 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Latest COVID restrictions due to surge in cases ?
In General, Teup writes:
| | In General, SimplyBricks writes:
| | In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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I think your ladies have their knickers in a twist!
It specifically says 'games and sports requisites' which has nothing
to do with Lego! Lego is a toy!
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It literally says "toys" though? And even "parts and accessories" .. pretty accurate
description of LEGO.
I don't understand though A. Why there would be rules for some specific EU
countries at all? You can technically then send it to another EU country and
send it to those countries from there without a single check, it would be a completely
inconsistent rule. and B. Why precisely for Germany as well as France, exactly
the same rule, at the same time
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Funky.Figures | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 11:08 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Stuart9 writes:
| | Latest COVID restrictions due to surge in cases ?
In General, Teup writes:
| | In General, SimplyBricks writes:
| | In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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I think your ladies have their knickers in a twist!
It specifically says 'games and sports requisites' which has nothing
to do with Lego! Lego is a toy!
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It literally says "toys" though? And even "parts and accessories" .. pretty accurate
description of LEGO.
I don't understand though A. Why there would be rules for some specific EU
countries at all? You can technically then send it to another EU country and
send it to those countries from there without a single check, it would be a completely
inconsistent rule. and B. Why precisely for Germany as well as France, exactly
the same rule, at the same time
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I go to the post office every day and see the same lady behind the counter ,
she hasn't said anything to me about this and she's normally quick to
tell me of any changes
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | happyshopper | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 15:23 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, gazzabrickstore writes:
| | In General, Stuart9 writes:
| | Latest COVID restrictions due to surge in cases ?
In General, Teup writes:
| | In General, SimplyBricks writes:
| | In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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I think your ladies have their knickers in a twist!
It specifically says 'games and sports requisites' which has nothing
to do with Lego! Lego is a toy!
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It literally says "toys" though? And even "parts and accessories" .. pretty accurate
description of LEGO.
I don't understand though A. Why there would be rules for some specific EU
countries at all? You can technically then send it to another EU country and
send it to those countries from there without a single check, it would be a completely
inconsistent rule. and B. Why precisely for Germany as well as France, exactly
the same rule, at the same time
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I go to the post office every day and see the same lady behind the counter ,
she hasn't said anything to me about this and she's normally quick to
tell me of any changes
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I work in a post office if this is correct we havent had any memo
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BellaBricksUK | | Posted: | Nov 25, 2021 15:17 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| it was a copy of their memo that that they read out, and its on the royal mail
website
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 11:23 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 99 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Teup writes:
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I don't understand though A. Why there would be rules for some specific EU
countries at all? You can technically then send it to another EU country and
send it to those countries from there without a single check, it would be a completely
inconsistent rule. and B. Why precisely for Germany as well as France, exactly
the same rule, at the same time
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For years, similar prohibitions have been said to apply to Italy. I never understood
it either.
Unless it’s about EU safety regulations, but then I don’t think those have changed
and LEGO is the same worldwide and it’s already okay here.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 11:27 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Teup writes:
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I don't understand though A. Why there would be rules for some specific EU
countries at all? You can technically then send it to another EU country and
send it to those countries from there without a single check, it would be a completely
inconsistent rule. and B. Why precisely for Germany as well as France, exactly
the same rule, at the same time
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For years, similar prohibitions have been said to apply to Italy. I never understood
it either.
Unless it’s about EU safety regulations, but then I don’t think those have changed
and LEGO is the same worldwide and it’s already okay here.
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They are all listed here:
https://www.upu.int/UPU/media/upu/files/postalSolutions/programmesAndServices/postalSupplyChain/customs/prohibitedArticles/ListOfProhibitedArticles.pdf
Also there are notes in some countries like:
The importation of toys is subject to compliance with labelling regulations.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Stellar writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Teup writes:
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I don't understand though A. Why there would be rules for some specific EU
countries at all? You can technically then send it to another EU country and
send it to those countries from there without a single check, it would be a completely
inconsistent rule. and B. Why precisely for Germany as well as France, exactly
the same rule, at the same time
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For years, similar prohibitions have been said to apply to Italy. I never understood
it either.
Unless it’s about EU safety regulations, but then I don’t think those have changed
and LEGO is the same worldwide and it’s already okay here.
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They are all listed here:
https://www.upu.int/UPU/media/upu/files/postalSolutions/programmesAndServices/postalSupplyChain/customs/prohibitedArticles/ListOfProhibitedArticles.pdf
Also there are notes in some countries like:
The importation of toys is subject to compliance with labelling regulations.
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Yeah, it might be down to labelling for LEGO pieces eapecially for Germany although
a boxed set with warnings is still a toy, so doesn't really make sense. If
this is the individual countries taking action and not the EU, presumably they
also apply for EU to EU transactions.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 11:52 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, Stellar writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Teup writes:
| | […]
I don't understand though A. Why there would be rules for some specific EU
countries at all? You can technically then send it to another EU country and
send it to those countries from there without a single check, it would be a completely
inconsistent rule. and B. Why precisely for Germany as well as France, exactly
the same rule, at the same time
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For years, similar prohibitions have been said to apply to Italy. I never understood
it either.
Unless it’s about EU safety regulations, but then I don’t think those have changed
and LEGO is the same worldwide and it’s already okay here.
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They are all listed here:
https://www.upu.int/UPU/media/upu/files/postalSolutions/programmesAndServices/postalSupplyChain/customs/prohibitedArticles/ListOfProhibitedArticles.pdf
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France: banknotes and coins, “don’t send us your money, we’re not Switzerland”
Germany: a list long like “a breadless day.”
Though, to the subject at hand: for Germany, the UPU document lists directive
2005/84/EC as an additional document
Text here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2005/84/oj
It’s about phtalates in toys and childcare articles / REACH.
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The importation of toys is subject to compliance with labelling regulations.
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Yeah, it might be down to labelling for LEGO pieces eapecially for Germany although
a boxed set with warnings is still a toy, so doesn't really make sense. If
this is the individual countries taking action and not the EU, presumably they
also apply for EU to EU transactions.
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Can’t be. As Teup said, goods (and persons) are free to move in EU, no customs,
no borders.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Yeah, it might be down to labelling for LEGO pieces eapecially for Germany although
a boxed set with warnings is still a toy, so doesn't really make sense. If
this is the individual countries taking action and not the EU, presumably they
also apply for EU to EU transactions.
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Can’t be. As Teup said, goods (and persons) are free to move in EU, no customs,
no borders.
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Yeah, and at the same time, rules that don't apply at the border make no
sense either. The whole problem with Brexit was the issue with the Ireland/N-Ireland
border potentially becoming some kind of import "leak", which made sense. Would
be weird if the EU was actually suffering that type of problems all the time
because of having free movement in the EU but quirky national import rules at
the same time..
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 12:31 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | General | |
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Can’t be. As Teup said, goods (and persons) are free to move in EU, no customs,
no borders.
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That's the bizarre thing. If only some EU countries have such bans, then
stuff from outside the EU will still get shipped in via a third country. Probably
not from small businesses, but for large ones such rules stop nothing if there
is free movement of goods once inside the EU.
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Can’t be. As Teup said, goods (and persons) are free to move in EU, no customs,
no borders.
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That's the bizarre thing. If only some EU countries have such bans, then
stuff from outside the EU will still get shipped in via a third country. Probably
not from small businesses, but for large ones such rules stop nothing if there
is free movement of goods once inside the EU.
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That’s why we don’t understand it.
My take is that:
1. It’s like the age warning in Germany. You can move the goods freely but when
you want to sell them, if they don’t have the warning, you can get into troubles.
So, here, countries either don’t accept some products or put restrictions on
them when they arrive directly but the restrictions and bans are checked at another
level (stores…) when they come from other EU countries.
2. It’s about packages by postal or courrier services, not all importations.
Look at France’s bans: no coins, no banknotes… in letters & packages. But of
course you can come in France with your Euros and we will take them! (We’ll
even take dollars and pounds and ….)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | leopard37 | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 14:02 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | General | |
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Can’t be. As Teup said, goods (and persons) are free to move in EU, no customs,
no borders.
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That's the bizarre thing. If only some EU countries have such bans, then
stuff from outside the EU will still get shipped in via a third country. Probably
not from small businesses, but for large ones such rules stop nothing if there
is free movement of goods once inside the EU.
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A rule to punish the small companies. Seems about in line with most government
rules.
Tyson.
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| | | | | Author: | WildBricks | | Posted: | Nov 24, 2021 14:17 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| "games and sports requisites"
req·ui·site
/ˈrekwəzət/
noun, a thing that is necessary for the achievement of a specified end
A soccer ball would be a requisite to play the game/sport soccer. The parts to
make a soccer ball are cover (cotton or plastic), lining (cotton or plastic),
bladder (rubber), binding (chemical adhesive).
So if you take their sentence literally: ".... requisites; parts and accessories
thereof". Meaning you may not import cotton, plastic, rubber, or a chemical
adhesive. This sounds like something to do with the climate accords, but we need
more clarification.
In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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| | | | | | | Author: | BellaBricksUK | | Posted: | Nov 25, 2021 15:21 | | Subject: | Re: No longer can ship toys to france or germany | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, WildBricks writes:
| | "games and sports requisites"
req·ui·site
/ˈrekwəzət/
noun, a thing that is necessary for the achievement of a specified end
A soccer ball would be a requisite to play the game/sport soccer. The parts to
make a soccer ball are cover (cotton or plastic), lining (cotton or plastic),
bladder (rubber), binding (chemical adhesive).
So if you take their sentence literally: ".... requisites; parts and accessories
thereof". Meaning you may not import cotton, plastic, rubber, or a chemical
adhesive. This sounds like something to do with the climate accords, but we need
more clarification.
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why are people hung up on sports requisites, it stays TOYS and then a comma meaning
not just sports etc, ive asked them for a copy of their memo and will post it
up when i go there next
| | In General, Mmartin1980 writes:
| | I dont know if this has come up yet but ive just been to my local post office
and the wonderful ladies there gave me a copy of the new prohibitions list for
France and Germany
they have now added:
Toys, games and sports requisites, parts and accessories thereof
they mentioned it to me as they know me from my daily drop off and that i sell
lego, and now i cant ship it to France or Germany
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United Kingdom, England
Netherlands, Utrecht
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Spain, Comunidad Valenciana
Canada, Alberta
USA, Georgia