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| | | Author: | popsicle  | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 11:25 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 234 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| | | | | Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 11:40 | | Subject: | Re: How we view things... | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | At what point, is it a build or sub-set and not a minifigure?
To use one example: this minifig-categorized build, is composed of common
parts, none specific-to or unique (print or otherwise) that distinguish it as
a minifigure. Yet when this collection of 32 parts are bundled for sale, it’s
considered a unique minifigure within the catalog?
Is the rationale for the established guidance in this instance, that the build
is marketed/presented from LEGO (within a set) as a minifgure or character representation?
Just curious
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In the instructions for the set, this droid is not shown at the beginning where
the instructions for making the real minifigs are.
https://www.lego.com/cdn/product-assets/product.bi.core.pdf/4648330.pdf
I believe the droid is not a minifig. To me this is abuse of minifig
categorization in the catalog.
David
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| | | | | | | Author: | qwertyboy | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 11:59 | | Subject: | Re: How we view things... | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | At what point, is it a build or sub-set and not a minifigure?
To use one example: this minifig-categorized build, is composed of common
parts, none specific-to or unique (print or otherwise) that distinguish it as
a minifigure. Yet when this collection of 32 parts are bundled for sale, it’s
considered a unique minifigure within the catalog?
Is the rationale for the established guidance in this instance, that the build
is marketed/presented from LEGO (within a set) as a minifgure or character representation?
Just curious
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In the instructions for the set, this droid is not shown at the beginning where
the instructions for making the real minifigs are.
https://www.lego.com/cdn/product-assets/product.bi.core.pdf/4648330.pdf
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It also doesn't show up as a figure in the little rectangle at the bottom
right on the original box, so TLG apparently did not consider it a figure as
such.
Niek.
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| | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 12:12 | | Subject: | Re: How we view things... | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
| | I believe the droid is not a minifig. To me this is abuse of minifig
categorization in the catalog.
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Any droid, or that droid in particular ?
IMHO, a droid, minifig, or anything else is a sub-assembly. There are
many different types of sub-assemblies, one being minifigs, and another being
droids. Both TLG and BL have raised minifigs to a special level, but they are
composed of parts that are sometimes unique, and sometimes rather common.
There are lots and lots of recognizable sub-assemblies ... for example the Landspeeder
in 7110-1. In fact, that set might be thought of as three sub-assemblies ...
the Landspeeder and two minifigs. But BL has no specific way to sell just the
Landspeeder sub-assembly. Some sellers try to list it under the 7110 set catalog
entry, which pollutes the PG.
Food for thought.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 14:10 | | Subject: | Re: How we view things... | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | At what point, is it a build or sub-set and not a minifigure?
To use one example: this minifig-categorized build, is composed of common
parts, none specific-to or unique (print or otherwise) that distinguish it as
a minifigure. Yet when this collection of 32 parts are bundled for sale, it’s
considered a unique minifigure within the catalog?
Is the rationale for the established guidance in this instance, that the build
is marketed/presented from LEGO (within a set) as a minifgure or character representation?
Just curious
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In the instructions for the set, this droid is not shown at the beginning where
the instructions for making the real minifigs are.
https://www.lego.com/cdn/product-assets/product.bi.core.pdf/4648330.pdf
I believe the droid is not a minifig. To me this is abuse of minifig
categorization in the catalog.
David
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I think that argument is well and truly lost.
At least now this type is marked for deletion...
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| | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 12:18 | | Subject: | Re: How we view things... | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | At what point, is it a build or sub-set and not a minifigure?
To use one example: this minifig-categorized build, is composed of common
parts, none specific-to or unique (print or otherwise) that distinguish it as
a minifigure. Yet when this collection of 32 parts are bundled for sale, it’s
considered a unique minifigure within the catalog?
Is the rationale for the established guidance in this instance, that the build
is marketed/presented from LEGO (within a set) as a minifgure or character representation?
Just curious
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Well actually all minifigs should be in counterparts and the inventory for sets
contain just single parts 
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 12:34 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 12:49 | | Subject: | Re: How we view things... | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | Is the rationale for the established guidance in this instance, that the build
is marketed/presented from LEGO (within a set) as a minifgure or character representation?
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I'll add that I was speaking more broadly, of the rationale used. But in
the specific example I gave: empirically, it’s a weapon.
Categorically, the droid type (droideka) was never given personality or traits
beyond that of a machine. Though some animism was attributed to the Droidekas
within the Canon, I believe?
I just don’t know. It’s gotta be tough for the catalog folks.
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| | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 13:27 | | Subject: | Re: How we view things... | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | At what point, is it a build or sub-set and not a minifigure?
To use one example: this minifig-categorized build, is composed of common
parts, none specific-to or unique (print or otherwise) that distinguish it as
a minifigure. Yet when this collection of 32 parts are bundled for sale, it’s
considered a unique minifigure within the catalog?
Is the rationale for the established guidance in this instance, that the build
is marketed/presented from LEGO (within a set) as a minifgure or character representation?
Just curious
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I don't have a good answer, but I've got a simple one.
Because Star Wars.
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| | | | | Author: | kzinti | | Posted: | Nov 4, 2021 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: How we view things... | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | At what point, is it a build or sub-set and not a minifigure?
To use one example: this minifig-categorized build, is composed of common
parts, none specific-to or unique (print or otherwise) that distinguish it as
a minifigure. Yet when this collection of 32 parts are bundled for sale, it’s
considered a unique minifigure within the catalog?
Is the rationale for the established guidance in this instance, that the build
is marketed/presented from LEGO (within a set) as a minifgure or character representation?
Just curious
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I see that they finally added the characters in
as minifigures. I recall having to sell them as Incomplete Sets for each one
when the set first came out.
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