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 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
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In General, popsicle writes:
  There are members (ever-present here) in the forum, that consistently chime-in
with advise for others, most of whom are brand new to the site. These low experienced
(vis-à-vis transactional feedback) members read that of the more experienced
member to then regurgitate the information opportunistically, often without a
full understanding of the info. Which leads to a lot of misinformation being
dispensed to new members whom naturally swallow it wholesale.

I my experience, misinformation or half truths are far more detrimental to that
of having no information.

Not naming names, but to those whom might fit this descriptor, please self-reflect
a little. It's admirable that you're trying to help, but maybe moderate
somewhat. Know your limits.

Thanks

They say that free advice is worth what you pay for it. Even a long-term member
may not have all the correct information.

But really, I think that folks are just trying to be friendly and helpful. I
don't see that as a problem.
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Nov 2, 2021 21:41
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In General, popsicle writes:
  There are members (ever-present here) in the forum, that consistently chime-in
with advise for others, most of whom are brand new to the site. These low experienced
(vis-à-vis transactional feedback) members read that of the more experienced
member to then regurgitate the information opportunistically, often without a
full understanding of the info. Which leads to a lot of misinformation being
dispensed to new members whom naturally swallow it wholesale.

I my experience, misinformation or half truths are far more detrimental to that
of having no information.

Not naming names, but to those whom might fit this descriptor, please self-reflect
a little. It's admirable that you're trying to help, but maybe moderate
somewhat. Know your limits.

Thanks

I always cringe when I see Bricklink users request and dispense tax advice to
other users; much of it is utterly wrong or speculative, seems like the last
thing you should ask for free advice from a non tax professional.

We get asked at least once a month by new local sellers if they can come over
to see how our shop is set up and how we manage such large inventory (most of
them condition making a purchase on such visits) we politely explain that our
shop is not set up for walk in traffic (insurance wise) and we run it from a
residential property (that is licensed for our business purposes) and explain
that just like they might not let a stranger into their residence- neither do
we. Being a store that pays an honest wage, spending time mentoring a seller
is also costly for us though we have given advice when asked by sellers we’re
friendly with and never given tax advice or any advice on a subject we’re not
familiar with.

Long story short; definitely agree with your sentiments but would also add that
one who requests advice from a stranger is at least 50% to blame if it backfired.
That being said, many wise and established individuals have fallen victim to
the lure of a seemingly well put together smart individual that they never vetted.
Ever heard of Elizabeth Holmes ? 😂
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Nov 2, 2021 21:51
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In General, Heartbricker writes:
  In General, popsicle writes:
  There are members (ever-present here) in the forum, that consistently chime-in
with advise for others, most of whom are brand new to the site. These low experienced
(vis-à-vis transactional feedback) members read that of the more experienced
member to then regurgitate the information opportunistically, often without a
full understanding of the info. Which leads to a lot of misinformation being
dispensed to new members whom naturally swallow it wholesale.

I my experience, misinformation or half truths are far more detrimental to that
of having no information.

Not naming names, but to those whom might fit this descriptor, please self-reflect
a little. It's admirable that you're trying to help, but maybe moderate
somewhat. Know your limits.

Thanks

I always cringe when I see Bricklink users request and dispense tax advice to
other users; much of it is utterly wrong or speculative, seems like the last
thing you should ask for free advice from a non tax professional.

We get asked at least once a month by new local sellers if they can come over
to see how our shop is set up and how we manage such large inventory (most of
them condition making a purchase on such visits) we politely explain that our
shop is not set up for walk in traffic (insurance wise) and we run it from a
residential property (that is licensed for our business purposes) and explain
that just like they might not let a stranger into their residence- neither do
we. Being a store that pays an honest wage, spending time mentoring a seller
is also costly for us though we have given advice when asked by sellers we’re
friendly with and never given tax advice or any advice on a subject we’re not
familiar with.

Long story short; definitely agree with your sentiments but would also add that
one who requests advice from a stranger is at least 50% to blame if it backfired.
That being said, many wise and established individuals have fallen victim to
the lure of a seemingly well put together smart individual that they never vetted.
Ever heard of Elizabeth Holmes ? 😂

Always great input. Thanks.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Nov 3, 2021 07:54
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In General, popsicle writes:
  There are members (ever-present here) in the forum, that consistently chime-in
with advise for others, most of whom are brand new to the site. These low experienced
(vis-à-vis transactional feedback) members read that of the more experienced
member to then regurgitate the information opportunistically, often without a
full understanding of the info. Which leads to a lot of misinformation being
dispensed to new members whom naturally swallow it wholesale.

I my experience, misinformation or half truths are far more detrimental to that
of having no information.

Not naming names, but to those whom might fit this descriptor, please self-reflect
a little. It's admirable that you're trying to help, but maybe moderate
somewhat. Know your limits.

Thanks

There appear to be, an atypical number of people who are looking for a new way
to prosper/survive in the current economy. They are ready to abandon all that
they have done before, and strike out into uncharted territory. They come here
to ask, like some of us are going to bequeath upon them wisdom from the mount.

I am reminded of a line from a move, but the name of the movie escapes me at
present ...

You want the truth ? You can't handle the truth !

Selling LEGO can be profitable, but there are sacrifices to be made (in both
time and living accommodations). Trying to convey the true picture, to someone
newly arrived, could be like dashing their hopes. I wish them well, but it isn't
always going to work (like they dream it might).

Nita Rae
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Nov 3, 2021 08:05
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In General, cosmicray writes:
  In General, popsicle writes:
  There are members (ever-present here) in the forum, that consistently chime-in
with advise for others, most of whom are brand new to the site. These low experienced
(vis-à-vis transactional feedback) members read that of the more experienced
member to then regurgitate the information opportunistically, often without a
full understanding of the info. Which leads to a lot of misinformation being
dispensed to new members whom naturally swallow it wholesale.

I my experience, misinformation or half truths are far more detrimental to that
of having no information.

Not naming names, but to those whom might fit this descriptor, please self-reflect
a little. It's admirable that you're trying to help, but maybe moderate
somewhat. Know your limits.

Thanks

There appear to be, an atypical number of people who are looking for a new way
to prosper/survive in the current economy. They are ready to abandon all that
they have done before, and strike out into uncharted territory. They come here
to ask, like some of us are going to bequeath upon them wisdom from the mount.

I am reminded of a line from a move, but the name of the movie escapes me at
present ...

You want the truth ? You can't handle the truth !

Selling LEGO can be profitable, but there are sacrifices to be made (in both
time and living accommodations). Trying to convey the true picture, to someone
newly arrived, could be like dashing their hopes. I wish them well, but it isn't
always going to work (like they dream it might).

Nita Rae

Always enjoy your posts. Thanks.

Btw, The movie quote is from Nicholson in "A few good men"
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  I am reminded of a line from a move, but the name of the movie escapes me at
present ...

You want the truth ? You can't handle the truth !


Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men".
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
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In General, cosmicray writes:
  In General, popsicle writes:
  There are members (ever-present here) in the forum, that consistently chime-in
with advise for others, most of whom are brand new to the site. These low experienced
(vis-à-vis transactional feedback) members read that of the more experienced
member to then regurgitate the information opportunistically, often without a
full understanding of the info. Which leads to a lot of misinformation being
dispensed to new members whom naturally swallow it wholesale.

I my experience, misinformation or half truths are far more detrimental to that
of having no information.

Not naming names, but to those whom might fit this descriptor, please self-reflect
a little. It's admirable that you're trying to help, but maybe moderate
somewhat. Know your limits.

Thanks

There appear to be, an atypical number of people who are looking for a new way
to prosper/survive in the current economy. They are ready to abandon all that
they have done before, and strike out into uncharted territory. They come here
to ask, like some of us are going to bequeath upon them wisdom from the mount.

I am reminded of a line from a move, but the name of the movie escapes me at
present ...

You want the truth ? You can't handle the truth !

Selling LEGO can be profitable, but there are sacrifices to be made (in both
time and living accommodations). Trying to convey the true picture, to someone
newly arrived, could be like dashing their hopes. I wish them well, but it isn't
always going to work (like they dream it might).

Nita Rae

+100! Well stated.
Might also be a generational issue; I have siblings that are 15 years younger
and their approach to achieving their goals is entirely different than what I’ve
grown up with; both have decided to become professionals (one in the equities
market and the other in nutrition) however; instead of taking professional or
academic courses- they have chosen to open social media pages and dispense information
and advice.
To my surprise; both are experiencing success and are even approached by followers
on their social media pages asking them to mentor/teach. The people who ask to
mentored are well aware of my siblings lack of formal/academic education in
their respective subjects yet are willing to shell out money for the advice/lessons.
While I am supportive and happy of their success; I feel extremely conflicted
as their paths go against everything I was thought to do in order to achieve
success (study hard, don’t take shortcuts, never be too confident to believe
that you know everything, hard work being more sustainable than luck…).
I can’t help but thinking that maybe a generation that was always told that they
can be whatever they want if they only believe in themselves were set up to fail
since no one ever told them that it’s a little more complicated than just “believing
in yourself”.
I’d like to think that the old advice I received would stand the test of time
but I also don’t want to see my siblings fail even though they have taken some
major shortcuts…