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 Author: sickofthis88 View Messages Posted By sickofthis88
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sickofthis88 (409)

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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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yorbrick (1182)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Buying, sickofthis88 writes:
  So, I was given positive feedback from Kentuckiana Bricks until I complained
that it took over 2 weeks for the order to be shipped. He has now changed
his feedback to negative and blocked me so that I cannot respond back. Seriously?
Considering that this person has well over 600 neutral or negative feedback,
almost all of which is due to slow shipping, he should not even be allowed to
have a store. I almost did not buy from him due to all of the negative feedback,
but decided it was worth a try. Now I have the very first negative feedback.
He claims that the processing time was in the terms page. He went way beyond
the time he allowed himself and blames covid. I have placed a number of orders
since covid hit and only one was slow, but I was following the tracking and even
left a note for the seller so he could see what was going on from the buyers
end. smh - It was clearly the Post Service at fault in all cases except Kentuciana
Bricks. The Post Office did not receive the order (more than 14 days after the
order was placed), until after I threatened a NSS and/or contacting my credit
card company for a refund. All of a sudden the package is at the Post Office.
Buyer beware and there is no way to fix my rating now. Just venting, over 200
orders and this is the only one that has been an issue and he has the highest
negative rating of any store I have looked at.



Some people don't mind slow shipping if the store has low prices or inventory
they want, and it is clear from their terms that they are slow. Buyers get the
option to check terms and feedback before buying. They do have a lot of negative
and neutrals (and a massive number of positives) which presumably you looked
at before placing the order.

You have already responded with negative feedback so it is not clear what you
mean by cannot respond back to their feedback. I don't blame them for blocking
you from making future purchases as if you don't like their service then
they have a right to block you from placing more orders and complaining about
them again. Just like a buyer has the right to not shop in a store they don't
like.
 Author: Tracyd View Messages Posted By Tracyd
 Posted: Sep 16, 2021 10:17
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Location:  USA, Texas
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In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, sickofthis88 writes:
  So, I was given positive feedback from Kentuckiana Bricks until I complained
that it took over 2 weeks for the order to be shipped. He has now changed
his feedback to negative and blocked me so that I cannot respond back. Seriously?
Considering that this person has well over 600 neutral or negative feedback,
almost all of which is due to slow shipping, he should not even be allowed to
have a store. I almost did not buy from him due to all of the negative feedback,
but decided it was worth a try. Now I have the very first negative feedback.
He claims that the processing time was in the terms page. He went way beyond
the time he allowed himself and blames covid. I have placed a number of orders
since covid hit and only one was slow, but I was following the tracking and even
left a note for the seller so he could see what was going on from the buyers
end. smh - It was clearly the Post Service at fault in all cases except Kentuciana
Bricks. The Post Office did not receive the order (more than 14 days after the
order was placed), until after I threatened a NSS and/or contacting my credit
card company for a refund. All of a sudden the package is at the Post Office.
Buyer beware and there is no way to fix my rating now. Just venting, over 200
orders and this is the only one that has been an issue and he has the highest
negative rating of any store I have looked at.




So you are mad that they didn't ship out to you faster even thou it is in
their terms. So you are at fault for not reading the terms before you bought.
They have the right to change their feedback as it is now more representative
of the transaction with you then the original feedback. I have bought from them
and since I read their terms I was aware of the time it might take. Over 46000
transactions will cause you to have a few less than perfect, it seems that a
lot were left because people didn't read the terms and understand their shipping
times are a bit longer than most. You no longer have to worry about their shipping
times so just move on.
 Author: Phantom_Buyer View Messages Posted By Phantom_Buyer
 Posted: Sep 17, 2021 13:37
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Phantom_Buyer (84)

Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, sickofthis88 writes:
  So, I was given positive feedback from Kentuckiana Bricks until I complained
that it took over 2 weeks for the order to be shipped. He has now changed
his feedback to negative and blocked me so that I cannot respond back. Seriously?
Considering that this person has well over 600 neutral or negative feedback,
almost all of which is due to slow shipping, he should not even be allowed to
have a store. I almost did not buy from him due to all of the negative feedback,
but decided it was worth a try. Now I have the very first negative feedback.
He claims that the processing time was in the terms page. He went way beyond
the time he allowed himself and blames covid. I have placed a number of orders
since covid hit and only one was slow, but I was following the tracking and even
left a note for the seller so he could see what was going on from the buyers
end. smh - It was clearly the Post Service at fault in all cases except Kentuciana
Bricks. The Post Office did not receive the order (more than 14 days after the
order was placed), until after I threatened a NSS and/or contacting my credit
card company for a refund. All of a sudden the package is at the Post Office.
Buyer beware and there is no way to fix my rating now. Just venting, over 200
orders and this is the only one that has been an issue and he has the highest
negative rating of any store I have looked at.



Some people don't mind slow shipping if the store has low prices or inventory
they want, and it is clear from their terms that they are slow. Buyers get the
option to check terms and feedback before buying. They do have a lot of negative
and neutrals (and a massive number of positives) which presumably you looked
at before placing the order.

You have already responded with negative feedback so it is not clear what you
mean by cannot respond back to their feedback. I don't blame them for blocking
you from making future purchases as if you don't like their service then
they have a right to block you from placing more orders and complaining about
them again. Just like a buyer has the right to not shop in a store they don't
like.

I can't respond to the original comment so here I respond to this.

Hi!

I read what you wrote and 100% agree with you. I also purchased from this buyer
some time ago and neutraled the store.

I'm not here to hate on the store but rather here to agree with you. I ordered
some time ago but yes, I had the same issues of slow shipping you did. Also note
to seller was completely ignored.

Knetuchiana Bricks is a massive store so I don't blame them for slow shipping.
Plus USPS is really slow right now. 2 weeks isn't as much as I have had to
wait for a domestic shipping. Your claims are valid but not for a Negative.

This is typically the case with massive stores so I usually just stick to the
smaller ones.

Take care, - SB
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Sep 16, 2021 03:54
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Stellar (3494)

Location:  Spain, Comunidad Valenciana
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In Buying, sickofthis88 writes:
  So, I was given positive feedback from Kentuckiana Bricks until I complained
that it took over 2 weeks for the order to be shipped. He has now changed
his feedback to negative and blocked me so that I cannot respond back. Seriously?
Considering that this person has well over 600 neutral or negative feedback,
almost all of which is due to slow shipping, he should not even be allowed to
have a store. I almost did not buy from him due to all of the negative feedback,
but decided it was worth a try. Now I have the very first negative feedback.
He claims that the processing time was in the terms page. He went way beyond
the time he allowed himself and blames covid. I have placed a number of orders
since covid hit and only one was slow, but I was following the tracking and even
left a note for the seller so he could see what was going on from the buyers
end. smh - It was clearly the Post Service at fault in all cases except Kentuciana
Bricks. The Post Office did not receive the order (more than 14 days after the
order was placed), until after I threatened a NSS and/or contacting my credit
card company for a refund. All of a sudden the package is at the Post Office.
Buyer beware and there is no way to fix my rating now. Just venting, over 200
orders and this is the only one that has been an issue and he has the highest
negative rating of any store I have looked at.

Seems that:

https://store.bricklink.com/amyfol

Is the same store as:

https://store.bricklink.com/apple_brick

And that they pick and pack the orders in Europe, ship them together to a warehouse
in USA and then ship individually to USA customers.

But as yorbrick stated, if you can wait and they explain it then that's it,
they still have a 98.53% praise.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
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zorbanj (811)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

In Buying, Stellar writes:
  
Seems that:

https://store.bricklink.com/amyfol

Is the same store as:

https://store.bricklink.com/apple_brick

And that they pick and pack the orders in Europe, ship them together to a warehouse
in USA and then ship individually to USA customers.

But as yorbrick stated, if you can wait and they explain it then that's it,
they still have a 98.53% praise.
 Author: sickofthis88 View Messages Posted By sickofthis88
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sickofthis88 (409)

Location:  USA, Maryland
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It's not about waiting. I waited more than a month before, but that was the
fault of the Post Office; it was near Christmas and because the seller actually
took the package to the Post Office, I was able to see where the holdup was,
and he got a positive feedback, Why? Because he had done all he could to to get
the package to me. When a package has been given a tracking number but sits
for days without being taken to the post office, and the seller keeps referring
to the terms page, which stated I would have the package in 9-12 days after payment,
that is poor customer service. I get it, covid is still out there, but once
a shipping label is created it should not take 9 - 12 days to get to the post
office. Clearly the terms page is incorrect. Had the package been taken to
the post office within the time frame set by the seller, I would have had no
issue. In the last month they have had 12 negative feedback and 21 neutral
feedback and then to CHANGE the positive feedback they had given me for paying
quickly, to negative because I was unhappy that the seller did not meet the terms
of the contract we had, and prevent me from responding is unacceptable. I have
purchased well over 200 packages and have never had anything but positive feedback.
And, when the packages are taken to the post office, I can track them myself
to see where the problem is, but when they are sitting somewhere, still with
the seller, there is nothing I can do. It was not until I told him I would file
a NSS that he got my package to the post office and then as soon as I got it,
he changed my rating and prevented me from responding. I thought once a rating
was in, it could not be changed.
 Author: EmblaRonja View Messages Posted By EmblaRonja
 Posted: Sep 16, 2021 11:18
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EmblaRonja (5199)

Location:  Sweden, Västra Götaland
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And, checking that store it has A LOT of neg/neutral all saying the same thing:
Shipping was slow.

Still this seller doesn’t get it!? Why? It should be easy to fix just has to
catch up a few days (Maybe even close shop a week), from then on just start to
get out the packages in timely manner.

Maybe this seller WANTS to have all that negatives?

/Niclas
 Author: Tracyd View Messages Posted By Tracyd
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Tracyd (418)

Location:  USA, Texas
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In Buying, EmblaRonja writes:
  And, checking that store it has A LOT of neg/neutral all saying the same thing:
Shipping was slow.

Still this seller doesn’t get it!? Why? It should be easy to fix just has to
catch up a few days (Maybe even close shop a week), from then on just start to
get out the packages in timely manner.

Maybe this seller WANTS to have all that negatives?

/Niclas

They don't deserve the negatives for slow shipping as it is stated that their
shipping takes a while. It should be grounds for removal, like stating in their
terms they only take Paypal and they get a negative complaining that they wouldn't
take a check.
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edk (9173)

Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Buying, Tracyd writes:
  In Buying, EmblaRonja writes:
  And, checking that store it has A LOT of neg/neutral all saying the same thing:
Shipping was slow.

Still this seller doesn’t get it!? Why? It should be easy to fix just has to
catch up a few days (Maybe even close shop a week), from then on just start to
get out the packages in timely manner.

Maybe this seller WANTS to have all that negatives?

/Niclas

They don't deserve the negatives for slow shipping as it is stated that their
shipping takes a while. It should be grounds for removal, like stating in their
terms they only take Paypal and they get a negative complaining that they wouldn't
take a check.

I read over their terms and it says order will be delivered in 5-10 or 5-12 days
depending on where you read in their store. They really need to be more clear
on the fact that they will not ship for X number of days.
 Author: Tracyd View Messages Posted By Tracyd
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Tracyd (418)

Location:  USA, Texas
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In Buying, edk writes:
  In Buying, Tracyd writes:
  In Buying, EmblaRonja writes:
  And, checking that store it has A LOT of neg/neutral all saying the same thing:
Shipping was slow.

Still this seller doesn’t get it!? Why? It should be easy to fix just has to
catch up a few days (Maybe even close shop a week), from then on just start to
get out the packages in timely manner.

Maybe this seller WANTS to have all that negatives?

/Niclas

They don't deserve the negatives for slow shipping as it is stated that their
shipping takes a while. It should be grounds for removal, like stating in their
terms they only take Paypal and they get a negative complaining that they wouldn't
take a check.

I read over their terms and it says order will be delivered in 5-10 or 5-12 days
depending on where you read in their store. They really need to be more clear
on the fact that they will not ship for X number of days.

OK they should change it to "we will ship in X-X days", whatever range they need
and then put "and the post office will deliver it whenever they choose to after
that". Now the seller still has the obligation to refund or replace if the package
is lost, but they can't control actual shipping times, even guaranteed shipping
isn't always guaranteed anymore. I just has a bubble mailer take 9 days
to get from Philadelphia to Dallas. Which while annoying is not the sellers
fault. And no it wasn't from the seller we are talking about.
 Author: brickablocks View Messages Posted By brickablocks
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brickablocks (1333)

Location:  USA, Virginia
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They should be up front and honest by disclosing that they co-locate their inventory
in the USA and Europe.

What they seem to be doing is just padding their handling time statement in the
store terms in the hopes that the Netherland side of their operations can get
the order shipped to the USA warehouse fast enough that your order's multiple
hops will arrive within their promised window.

Shipping duration is one of the primary reasons people choose to not place overseas
orders. This store is taking that decision out of your hands without disclosing
the practice.

Given the 2 party feedback system we have here, I would bet that their negative
feedback score would be much higher of buyers weren't constantly under threat
of retaliatory negative feedback. My obligation as a buyer is to pay my invoice,
that's it. The notion of seller feedback against buyers is looney tunes.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
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zorbanj (811)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Buying, brickablocks writes:
  They should be up front and honest by disclosing that they co-locate their inventory
in the USA and Europe.

Yes

  What they seem to be doing is just padding their handling time statement in the
store terms in the hopes that the Netherland side of their operations can get
the order shipped to the USA warehouse fast enough that your order's multiple
hops will arrive within their promised window.

Shipping duration is one of the primary reasons people choose to not place overseas
orders. This store is taking that decision out of your hands without disclosing
the practice.

Yes

  Given the 2 party feedback system we have here, I would bet that their negative
feedback score would be much higher of buyers weren't constantly under threat
of retaliatory negative feedback.

Speculation. You may be right, but it's still specualtion.

  My obligation as a buyer is to pay my invoice, that's it. The notion of seller feedback against buyers is looney tunes.

Er, no. There are plenty of bad buyers.

Curious, do you sell on eBay an/or Amazon?
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Location:  USA, Virginia
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  Curious, do you sell on eBay an/or Amazon?


Yes, and etsy, and shopify, and craigslist, and facebook.

None of those places have Seller to buyer feedback any longer either.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Buying, sickofthis88 writes:
   And, when the packages are taken to the post office, I can track them myself
to see where the problem is, but when they are sitting somewhere, still with
the seller, there is nothing I can do. It was not until I told him I would file
a NSS that he got my package to the post office and then as soon as I got it,
he changed my rating and prevented me from responding. I thought once a rating
was in, it could not be changed.

I think you have 30 days in which to change it.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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yorbrick (1182)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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  he changed my rating and prevented me from responding. I thought once a rating
was in, it could not be changed.

How have they stopped you from responding? You have already left negative feedback
for them. You also have their email address so you could contact them that way
if you need to.
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

While they were updating the stores earlier, both were closed and there was the
same message, word for word, on both about stock updates.
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
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macebobo (2431)

Location:  USA, Oregon
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In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

While they were updating the stores earlier, both were closed and there was the
same message, word for word, on both about stock updates.

Also has same message at the top "After ordering your invoice will be sent within
5 minutes!"

I didn't think that you could have two stores on BL, but this show me I was
wrong.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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yorbrick (1182)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Buying, macebobo writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

While they were updating the stores earlier, both were closed and there was the
same message, word for word, on both about stock updates.

Also has same message at the top "After ordering your invoice will be sent within
5 minutes!"

I didn't think that you could have two stores on BL, but this show me I was
wrong.

Individuals cannot but companies can. If they are registered as two separate
companies in different countries, then maybe that is why they get away with it.
But to manage it all with the same stock is impressive.

There are other sellers that advertise the same sales here in the forum on two
accounts at the same time. I think one sells used and the other new, so again
maybe they register two companies.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
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jennnifer (3532)

Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, macebobo writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

While they were updating the stores earlier, both were closed and there was the
same message, word for word, on both about stock updates.

Also has same message at the top "After ordering your invoice will be sent within
5 minutes!"

I didn't think that you could have two stores on BL, but this show me I was
wrong.

Individuals cannot but companies can. If they are registered as two separate
companies in different countries, then maybe that is why they get away with it.
But to manage it all with the same stock is impressive.

There are other sellers that advertise the same sales here in the forum on two
accounts at the same time. I think one sells used and the other new, so again
maybe they register two companies.

I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen
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In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, macebobo writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

While they were updating the stores earlier, both were closed and there was the
same message, word for word, on both about stock updates.

Also has same message at the top "After ordering your invoice will be sent within
5 minutes!"

I didn't think that you could have two stores on BL, but this show me I was
wrong.

Individuals cannot but companies can. If they are registered as two separate
companies in different countries, then maybe that is why they get away with it.
But to manage it all with the same stock is impressive.

There are other sellers that advertise the same sales here in the forum on two
accounts at the same time. I think one sells used and the other new, so again
maybe they register two companies.

I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

I don't know that is definitely the case here but the inventories do look
rather similar. Maybe that is why one store is a bit slow? As long as they fulfill
orders and pay fees I guess BL don't care.
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In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, macebobo writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

While they were updating the stores earlier, both were closed and there was the
same message, word for word, on both about stock updates.

Also has same message at the top "After ordering your invoice will be sent within
5 minutes!"

I didn't think that you could have two stores on BL, but this show me I was
wrong.

Individuals cannot but companies can. If they are registered as two separate
companies in different countries, then maybe that is why they get away with it.
But to manage it all with the same stock is impressive.

There are other sellers that advertise the same sales here in the forum on two
accounts at the same time. I think one sells used and the other new, so again
maybe they register two companies.

I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.
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Is this not also cause for concern regarding FB, especially the negatives they
are posting regarding delays?

Especially, if it is true that they are delayed due to non-disclosure that the
items are in a warehouse overseas.

I would ask that admins consider removing the negatives they have posted
that are regarding members being upset over shipping delays (despite it not being
my problem).


  They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.
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In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

Great! I was glad to see Las Vegas Bricks and Snasnar, Nono & Baeh taken down
earlier this year for similar reasons, and this policy being more aggressively
enforced will be good for Bricklink in the long run.
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Brickitty,

I don't think those were the same as this.

Las Vegas Bricks was a fraud:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1251584

Can't find a post, but Snasnar, Nono & Baeh was a well-known drop shipper
who had little, if any of the inventory listed for sale.




In Buying, Brickitty writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

Great! I was glad to see Las Vegas Bricks and Snasnar, Nono & Baeh taken down
earlier this year for similar reasons, and this policy being more aggressively
enforced will be good for Bricklink in the long run.
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In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Brickitty,

I don't think those were the same as this.

Las Vegas Bricks was a fraud:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1251584

Can't find a post, but Snasnar, Nono & Baeh was a well-known drop shipper
who had little, if any of the inventory listed for sale.



They got suspended a month after this thread started:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=283219
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Yes! That's the thread, thanks for posting it.

In Buying, Dimi_DBB writes:
  In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Brickitty,

I don't think those were the same as this.

Las Vegas Bricks was a fraud:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1251584

Can't find a post, but Snasnar, Nono & Baeh was a well-known drop shipper
who had little, if any of the inventory listed for sale.



They got suspended a month after this thread started:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=283219
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In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, macebobo writes:
  In Buying, yorbrick writes:
  In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

While they were updating the stores earlier, both were closed and there was the
same message, word for word, on both about stock updates.

Also has same message at the top "After ordering your invoice will be sent within
5 minutes!"

I didn't think that you could have two stores on BL, but this show me I was
wrong.

Individuals cannot but companies can. If they are registered as two separate
companies in different countries, then maybe that is why they get away with it.
But to manage it all with the same stock is impressive.

There are other sellers that advertise the same sales here in the forum on two
accounts at the same time. I think one sells used and the other new, so again
maybe they register two companies.

I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.


Dear fellow Bricklinkers,

As the owner of Kentuckiana Bricks I feel the need to respond, particularly after
Admin Russell's comments.

Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply are two separate Bricklink stores. Kentuckiana
Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live.
ToyPro LLC has been registered with the KY Secretary of State since 2013, has
a Federal Tax ID and has been paying Federal and KY income taxes on all profits
made from sales by Kentuckiana Bricks for years. ToyPro LLC has also been filing
sales tax returns with dozens of states for years, well before Bricklink started
doing this.

AFOL Supply is located in Europe, in the Netherlands and its corporate owner,
ToyPro B.V. pays Dutch corporate income tax and files VAT tax returns in multiple
European countries for sales made by AFOL Supply. ToyPro B.V. is owned by me
and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands.

So Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply are separate stores that fully comply with
all applicable tax regulations in the countries they are located and operate
in. I've asked admin Russell by email for a clarification of his comments
regarding breaking the rules and which tax reasons he is referring to.

Kentuckian Bricks only sells to customers in the US.

By employing a proprietary software solution Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply
are able to offer the widest selection of bricks possible, which benefits our
customers greatly. Downside is slightly longer shipping times, but we state that
clearly in our terms of service. Inventories of both stores seem the same, but
are actually separate, meaning that if one customer were to order all stock of
a specific brick in one store and someone else would do the same in the other
store, both orders will be fulfilled.

So, in conclusion: I don't think we are breaking any rules, regarding taxes
or otherwise, and the fact that each store has tens of thousands of positive
feedbacks shows we are highly valued by the Bricklink community. I regret that
shipping times are sometimes longer than we anticipate, but that also has a lot
to do with different implications of the Covid pandemic that are beyond our control.

I would like to thank all of our customers for their continued business and Bricklink
for providing this great marketplace.

Dennis Schulinck.
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  Dear fellow Bricklinkers,

As the owner of Kentuckiana Bricks "I" feel the need to respond, particularly after
Admin Russell's comments.

-Kentuckiana Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, "located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live".
-ToyPro B.V. is owned by "me and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands."

So, in conclusion: I don't think "we" are breaking any rules,

Have trouble wrapping my head around the wording, Dennis. I'm sure it's
just my inability to grasp the obvious this morning, but how many are expressing
themselves in this post?


  Dennis Schulinck.
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In Buying, popsicle writes:
  
  Dear fellow Bricklinkers,

As the owner of Kentuckiana Bricks "I" feel the need to respond, particularly after
Admin Russell's comments.

-Kentuckiana Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, "located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live".
-ToyPro B.V. is owned by "me and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands."

So, in conclusion: I don't think "we" are breaking any rules,

Have trouble wrapping my head around the wording, Dennis. I'm sure it's
just my inability to grasp the obvious this morning, but how many are expressing
themselves in this post?


  Dennis Schulinck.


According to this statement, Dennis is the owner for the Kentucky based operations
and the co-owner of the Netherland operations. According to this statement they
are 2 separate companies operating independantly.
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In Buying, Tracyd writes:
  In Buying, popsicle writes:
  
  Dear fellow Bricklinkers,

As the owner of Kentuckiana Bricks "I" feel the need to respond, particularly after
Admin Russell's comments.

-Kentuckiana Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, "located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live".
-ToyPro B.V. is owned by "me and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands."

So, in conclusion: I don't think "we" are breaking any rules,

Have trouble wrapping my head around the wording, Dennis. I'm sure it's
just my inability to grasp the obvious this morning, but how many are expressing
themselves in this post?


  Dennis Schulinck.


According to this statement, Dennis is the owner for the Kentucky based operations
and the co-owner of the Netherland operations. According to this statement they
are 2 separate companies operating independantly.

I see, and "lives" in both countries. Thanks.
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In Buying, popsicle writes:
  In Buying, Tracyd writes:
  In Buying, popsicle writes:
  
  Dear fellow Bricklinkers,

As the owner of Kentuckiana Bricks "I" feel the need to respond, particularly after
Admin Russell's comments.

-Kentuckiana Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, "located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live".
-ToyPro B.V. is owned by "me and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands."

So, in conclusion: I don't think "we" are breaking any rules,

Have trouble wrapping my head around the wording, Dennis. I'm sure it's
just my inability to grasp the obvious this morning, but how many are expressing
themselves in this post?


  Dennis Schulinck.


According to this statement, Dennis is the owner for the Kentucky based operations
and the co-owner of the Netherland operations. According to this statement they
are 2 separate companies operating independantly.

I see, and "lives" in both countries. Thanks.

No, Dennis lives in Kentucky, there is no reference to how he knows the person
in the Netherlands. Could be a relative or a friend or just a business partner.

Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply are two separate Bricklink stores. Kentuckiana
Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live.
ToyPro LLC has been registered with the KY Secretary of State since 2013, has
a Federal Tax ID and has been paying Federal and KY income taxes on all profits
made from sales by Kentuckiana Bricks for years. ToyPro LLC has also been filing
sales tax returns with dozens of states for years, well before Bricklink started
doing this.

AFOL Supply is located in Europe, in the Netherlands and its corporate owner,
ToyPro B.V. pays Dutch corporate income tax and files VAT tax returns in multiple
European countries for sales made by AFOL Supply. ToyPro B.V. is owned by me
and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands.
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In Buying, Tracyd writes:
  In Buying, popsicle writes:
  In Buying, Tracyd writes:
  In Buying, popsicle writes:
  
  Dear fellow Bricklinkers,

As the owner of Kentuckiana Bricks "I" feel the need to respond, particularly after
Admin Russell's comments.

-Kentuckiana Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, "located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live".
-ToyPro B.V. is owned by "me and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands."

So, in conclusion: I don't think "we" are breaking any rules,

Have trouble wrapping my head around the wording, Dennis. I'm sure it's
just my inability to grasp the obvious this morning, but how many are expressing
themselves in this post?


  Dennis Schulinck.


According to this statement, Dennis is the owner for the Kentucky based operations
and the co-owner of the Netherland operations. According to this statement they
are 2 separate companies operating independantly.

I see, and "lives" in both countries. Thanks.

No, Dennis lives in Kentucky, there is no reference to how he knows the person
in the Netherlands. Could be a relative or a friend or just a business partner.

Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply are two separate Bricklink stores. Kentuckiana
Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live.
ToyPro LLC has been registered with the KY Secretary of State since 2013, has
a Federal Tax ID and has been paying Federal and KY income taxes on all profits
made from sales by Kentuckiana Bricks for years. ToyPro LLC has also been filing
sales tax returns with dozens of states for years, well before Bricklink started
doing this.

AFOL Supply is located in Europe, in the Netherlands and its corporate owner,
ToyPro B.V. pays Dutch corporate income tax and files VAT tax returns in multiple
European countries for sales made by AFOL Supply. ToyPro B.V. is owned by me
and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands.

To clarify: I, Dennis, own Kentuckiana Bricks and live in Goshen, KY (if someone
wants to meet up sometime, let me know). AFOL Supply is located in the Netherlands
and is owned by a corporation of which I am a shareholder. The other shareholder
is the CEO of that corporation.

Dennis.
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In Buying, amyfol writes:
  In Buying, Tracyd writes:
  In Buying, popsicle writes:
  In Buying, Tracyd writes:
  In Buying, popsicle writes:
  
  Dear fellow Bricklinkers,

As the owner of Kentuckiana Bricks "I" feel the need to respond, particularly after
Admin Russell's comments.

-Kentuckiana Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, "located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live".
-ToyPro B.V. is owned by "me and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands."

So, in conclusion: I don't think "we" are breaking any rules,

Have trouble wrapping my head around the wording, Dennis. I'm sure it's
just my inability to grasp the obvious this morning, but how many are expressing
themselves in this post?


  Dennis Schulinck.


According to this statement, Dennis is the owner for the Kentucky based operations
and the co-owner of the Netherland operations. According to this statement they
are 2 separate companies operating independantly.

I see, and "lives" in both countries. Thanks.

No, Dennis lives in Kentucky, there is no reference to how he knows the person
in the Netherlands. Could be a relative or a friend or just a business partner.

Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply are two separate Bricklink stores. Kentuckiana
Bricks is owned by Toypro LLC, located in Goshen KY, where I, the owner live.
ToyPro LLC has been registered with the KY Secretary of State since 2013, has
a Federal Tax ID and has been paying Federal and KY income taxes on all profits
made from sales by Kentuckiana Bricks for years. ToyPro LLC has also been filing
sales tax returns with dozens of states for years, well before Bricklink started
doing this.

AFOL Supply is located in Europe, in the Netherlands and its corporate owner,
ToyPro B.V. pays Dutch corporate income tax and files VAT tax returns in multiple
European countries for sales made by AFOL Supply. ToyPro B.V. is owned by me
and a Dutch citizen who runs the business and lives in the Netherlands.

To clarify: I, Dennis, own Kentuckiana Bricks and live in Goshen, KY (if someone
wants to meet up sometime, let me know). AFOL Supply is located in the Netherlands
and is owned by a corporation of which I am a shareholder. The other shareholder
is the CEO of that corporation.

Dennis.

I see. Like I said, my inability to see the obvious

Thanks. I appreciate the clarification.
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Purely an observation, employing a carefully worded Starbucks/Amazon defence
does nothing to stop the conspiracy theories. Complying with "all applicable
tax regulations in the countries they are located and operate in" is code for
operates under every available loop hole in the porous tax code isn't it?
Might as well write we pay nothing nowhere.

Keeps the latte cheap though.


In Buying, amyfol writes:
  So Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply are separate stores that fully comply with
all applicable tax regulations in the countries they are located and operate
in. I've asked admin Russell by email for a clarification of his comments
regarding breaking the rules and which tax reasons he is referring to.

So, in conclusion: I don't think we are breaking any rules, regarding taxes
or otherwise
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In Buying, LegoLDK writes:
  Purely an observation, employing a carefully worded Starbucks/Amazon defence
does nothing to stop the conspiracy theories. Complying with "all applicable
tax regulations in the countries they are located and operate in" is code for
operates under every available loop hole in the porous tax code isn't it?
Might as well write we pay nothing nowhere.

Keeps the latte cheap though.


In Buying, amyfol writes:
  So Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply are separate stores that fully comply with
all applicable tax regulations in the countries they are located and operate
in. I've asked admin Russell by email for a clarification of his comments
regarding breaking the rules and which tax reasons he is referring to.

So, in conclusion: I don't think we are breaking any rules, regarding taxes
or otherwise

Only mega companies are capable to avoid paying their taxes by hiring expensive
tax attorneys, a practice that's surely despicable. We have paid income taxes
on all of our profits and payroll ever since we started. To suggest otherwise
just because we state we follow the rules is not based on reality.
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In Buying, amyfol writes:
  In Buying, LegoLDK writes:
  Purely an observation, employing a carefully worded Starbucks/Amazon defence
does nothing to stop the conspiracy theories. Complying with "all applicable
tax regulations in the countries they are located and operate in" is code for
operates under every available loop hole in the porous tax code isn't it?
Might as well write we pay nothing nowhere.

Keeps the latte cheap though.


In Buying, amyfol writes:
  So Kentuckiana Bricks and AFOL Supply are separate stores that fully comply with
all applicable tax regulations in the countries they are located and operate
in. I've asked admin Russell by email for a clarification of his comments
regarding breaking the rules and which tax reasons he is referring to.

So, in conclusion: I don't think we are breaking any rules, regarding taxes
or otherwise

Only mega companies are capable to avoid paying their taxes by hiring expensive
tax attorneys, a practice that's surely despicable. We have paid income taxes
on all of our profits and payroll ever since we started. To suggest otherwise
just because we state we follow the rules is not based on reality.

True tax evasion is only for the very rich, only they can afford the professionals
that allow them to keep even more money while claiming they are only doing what
is allowed and what they must do to be responsible shepherds to their investors
money after all.
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Location:  USA, Minnesota
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Store: Lost Boys' Brick Shop
In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this? Not only has the
management been allowing a large seller to flout the rules--they freely admit
this without even a hint of remorse. But the real coup de grâce here is that
the only reason that any action is likely to occur is NOT because the behavior
violates policy but rather because it is causing trouble with the tax man.

Russell, this warrants an explanation. Will you share with the community why
no action has been taken? I suspect the answer will be no, but I'd love
to be proven wrong.
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Location:  USA, Kentucky
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In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this? Not only has the
management been allowing a large seller to flout the rules--they freely admit
this without even a hint of remorse. But the real coup de grâce here is that
the only reason that any action is likely to occur is NOT because the behavior
violates policy but rather because it is causing trouble with the tax man.

Russell, this warrants an explanation. Will you share with the community why
no action has been taken? I suspect the answer will be no, but I'd love
to be proven wrong.

I would really love to hear what cardinal rule I have been breaking.
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Location:  Spain, Comunidad Valenciana
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In Buying, amyfol writes:
  In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this? Not only has the
management been allowing a large seller to flout the rules--they freely admit
this without even a hint of remorse. But the real coup de grâce here is that
the only reason that any action is likely to occur is NOT because the behavior
violates policy but rather because it is causing trouble with the tax man.

Russell, this warrants an explanation. Will you share with the community why
no action has been taken? I suspect the answer will be no, but I'd love
to be proven wrong.

I would really love to hear what cardinal rule I have been breaking.

In theory it seems fine, there is no rule against slow shipping. (As far as I
know...)

There is only one thing I'm curious, as stated, your software shares the
stock between the 2 companyies so that each store stock is not doubled, it is
just halved between.

And by the slow shipping feedback only in your store and not in the other, then
the warehouse of most items its in the Netherlands?

That would be fine I think, as your company owns and sells its half, and the
other company that you co-own has its other half. AFAIK two companies can run
2 stores from the same warehouse if their inventories are divided (not shared).

As for Tax purposes, if you are registered in USA and pay whatever import fees
yourself, and then ship to customers taking sales tax, then it seems fine too.
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Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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In Buying, amyfol writes:
  In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this? Not only has the
management been allowing a large seller to flout the rules--they freely admit
this without even a hint of remorse. But the real coup de grâce here is that
the only reason that any action is likely to occur is NOT because the behavior
violates policy but rather because it is causing trouble with the tax man.

Russell, this warrants an explanation. Will you share with the community why
no action has been taken? I suspect the answer will be no, but I'd love
to be proven wrong.

I would really love to hear what cardinal rule I have been breaking.

The cardinal rule that was being discussed was "You have to physically have something
to sell it on Bricklink". As you've explained, you probably aren't breaking
the rule, even though at a glance it may feel like it to the man on the street.
Most people would assume that if you own something it is in the same country
as you.

I don't know exactly how taxes come into it, but I think you did right to
reach out to Russell immediately and get it straightened out. From where he
sits, DODGING taxes isn't the only issue. Bricklink also has to see that
the collected taxes are all going where they should and the tie to the Netherlands
brings EU VAT into the mix. It is more than I want to try to figure out, but
hopefully you do have it all figured out and can get things straightened out.
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In Buying, axaday writes:
  […]
The cardinal rule that was being discussed was "You have to physically have something
to sell it on Bricklink". As you've explained, you probably aren't breaking
the rule, even though at a glance it may feel like it to the man on the street.
Most people would assume that if you own something it is in the same country
as you.

I don't know exactly how taxes come into it, but I think you did right to
reach out to Russell immediately and get it straightened out. From where he
sits, DODGING taxes isn't the only issue. Bricklink also has to see that
the collected taxes are all going where they should and the tie to the Netherlands
brings EU VAT into the mix.

It can’t be VAT because, IIUC, the main warehouse is in EU, and there’s no VAT
on export.

And it can’t be sales tax because sales to US customers are done on BL by the
US company/seller and are therefore accounted for.


   It is more than I want to try to figure out, but
hopefully you do have it all figured out and can get things straightened out.

Yes, we’re all in the dark and there’s no traces of any elephant, so maybe we
should stop trying to guess what we can’t even feel
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Location:  USA, Texas
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In Buying, SylvainLS writes:
  In Buying, axaday writes:
  […]
The cardinal rule that was being discussed was "You have to physically have something
to sell it on Bricklink". As you've explained, you probably aren't breaking
the rule, even though at a glance it may feel like it to the man on the street.
Most people would assume that if you own something it is in the same country
as you.

I don't know exactly how taxes come into it, but I think you did right to
reach out to Russell immediately and get it straightened out. From where he
sits, DODGING taxes isn't the only issue. Bricklink also has to see that
the collected taxes are all going where they should and the tie to the Netherlands
brings EU VAT into the mix.

It can’t be VAT because, IIUC, the main warehouse is in EU, and there’s no VAT
on export.

And it can’t be sales tax because sales to US customers are done on BL by the
US company/seller and are therefore accounted for.


   It is more than I want to try to figure out, but
hopefully you do have it all figured out and can get things straightened out.

Yes, we’re all in the dark and there’s no traces of any elephant, so maybe we
should stop trying to guess what we can’t even feel


OMG I am agreeing with SylvianLS what is wrong with he world?
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Location:  USA, Washington
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Store: ConstrucToys
In Buying, SylvainLS writes:
  In Buying, axaday writes:
  […]
The cardinal rule that was being discussed was "You have to physically have something
to sell it on Bricklink". As you've explained, you probably aren't breaking
the rule, even though at a glance it may feel like it to the man on the street.
Most people would assume that if you own something it is in the same country
as you.

I don't know exactly how taxes come into it, but I think you did right to
reach out to Russell immediately and get it straightened out. From where he
sits, DODGING taxes isn't the only issue. Bricklink also has to see that
the collected taxes are all going where they should and the tie to the Netherlands
brings EU VAT into the mix.

It can’t be VAT because, IIUC, the main warehouse is in EU, and there’s no VAT
on export.

And it can’t be sales tax because sales to US customers are done on BL by the
US company/seller and are therefore accounted for.


   It is more than I want to try to figure out, but
hopefully you do have it all figured out and can get things straightened out.

Yes, we’re all in the dark and there’s no traces of any elephant, so maybe we
should stop trying to guess what we can’t even feel

Nice use of the parable's lesson, Sylvain

In fact, a moral that might be pinned to the forum in some manner, like a sign
hanging over it. Maybe call it "Rumi’s guide to the forum"
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Buying, amyfol writes:
  I would really love to hear what cardinal rule I have been breaking.

Gluttony
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Location:  USA, Kentucky
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No Longer Registered
In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this? Not only has the
management been allowing a large seller to flout the rules--they freely admit
this without even a hint of remorse. But the real coup de grâce here is that
the only reason that any action is likely to occur is NOT because the behavior
violates policy but rather because it is causing trouble with the tax man.

Russell, this warrants an explanation. Will you share with the community why
no action has been taken? I suspect the answer will be no, but I'd love
to be proven wrong.

Why does it break a rule if I own and operate a store in one country and at the
same time own part of the shares in a foreign corporation that owns another store
on a different continent?
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Location:  USA, Minnesota
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In Buying, amyfol writes:
  In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this? Not only has the
management been allowing a large seller to flout the rules--they freely admit
this without even a hint of remorse. But the real coup de grâce here is that
the only reason that any action is likely to occur is NOT because the behavior
violates policy but rather because it is causing trouble with the tax man.

Russell, this warrants an explanation. Will you share with the community why
no action has been taken? I suspect the answer will be no, but I'd love
to be proven wrong.

Why does it break a rule if I own and operate a store in one country and at the
same time own part of the shares in a foreign corporation that owns another store
on a different continent?

Settle down. This has very little to do with you. My concern is that an admin
says he knows someone is breaking the rules and that managment chose not to act.

If he is right, then it means BL is showing favoritism to large stores and turning
a blind eye to their bad behavior. If he wrong, he is publicly making a false
accusation.

I don't see how either of those scenarios presents a healthy outlook for
the future of BrickLink.
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Location:  USA, Washington
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In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, amyfol writes:
  In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this? Not only has the
management been allowing a large seller to flout the rules--they freely admit
this without even a hint of remorse. But the real coup de grâce here is that
the only reason that any action is likely to occur is NOT because the behavior
violates policy but rather because it is causing trouble with the tax man.

Russell, this warrants an explanation. Will you share with the community why
no action has been taken? I suspect the answer will be no, but I'd love
to be proven wrong.

Why does it break a rule if I own and operate a store in one country and at the
same time own part of the shares in a foreign corporation that owns another store
on a different continent?

Settle down. This has very little to do with you. My concern is that an admin
says he knows someone is breaking the rules and that managment chose not to act.

I’d say it has a good deal to do with them, whether intended or not, Chris. Being
as they're an instrumental part of the charges you’ve leveled at the Admin.
And considering it’s their stores and membership on the line.
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Buying, chetzler writes:
  Settle down. This has very little to do with you. My concern is that an admin
says he knows someone is breaking the rules and that managment chose not to act.

If he is right, then it means BL is showing favoritism to large stores and turning
a blind eye to their bad behavior. If he wrong, he is publicly making a false
accusation.

I don't see how either of those scenarios presents a healthy outlook for
the future of BrickLink.

I don't see how suspending one of the largest BrickLink stores in the world
presents a healthy outlook for the future of BrickLink.

The way I read Russell's statement, it sounds like the BrickLink administration
was finally forced to suspend Kentuckiana Bricks (amyfol) for legal/tax reasons.

I'm pretty sure there are other (usually large) BrickLink stores that are
registered in a different country than where they physically keep their inventory.

For example, the message has since been purged but, Kuboteka once claimed that
they kept their inventory in Russia despite being registered in Lithuania.

That claim was made before February 2022, so it may not be true anymore.

Anyway, this kind of behavior may not have been illegal per se in the past, but
now it might be problematic due to new marketplace regulations.
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In Buying, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Buying, chetzler writes:
  Settle down. This has very little to do with you. My concern is that an admin
says he knows someone is breaking the rules and that managment chose not to act.

If he is right, then it means BL is showing favoritism to large stores and turning
a blind eye to their bad behavior. If he wrong, he is publicly making a false
accusation.

I don't see how either of those scenarios presents a healthy outlook for
the future of BrickLink.

I don't see how suspending one of the largest BrickLink stores in the world
presents a healthy outlook for the future of BrickLink.

The way I read Russell's statement, it sounds like the BrickLink administration
was finally forced to suspend Kentuckiana Bricks (amyfol) for legal/tax reasons.

I'm pretty sure there are other (usually large) BrickLink stores that are
registered in a different country than where they physically keep their inventory.

For example, the message has since been purged but, Kuboteka once claimed that
they kept their inventory in Russia despite being registered in Lithuania.

That claim was made before February 2022, so it may not be true anymore.

Anyway, this kind of behavior may not have been illegal per se in the past, but
now it might be problematic due to new marketplace regulations.

While the tax issue (alluded to above) may be the factual reason, there is (at
least in this thread) a view that the entire inventory offered to US customers
by a US seller is not physically located in the US. Some may be here, but some
may not. Amazon can behave like this, but typically when purchasing something
sourced from Japan, you will see some indicator of that on the listing. eBay
tends to be more strict in this regard, and because of that, many Chinese sellers
have US stocking points so that they can offer direct US shipments. Bricklink
does not have the facility to indicate where inventory is stocked (on a per listing
basis), so the default is where the seller is located.

Nita Rae
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Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this?

I was. This is a private matter that should not be dicusssed in the forum. This
is strictly between the store's owner and the admin.

Good thing the store's owner reads the forum. Sound like the store's
owner had no idea there was a problem until Russell posted. If this is what happened,
I wouldn't want to find out about something like this by reading the forum.
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In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this? Not only has the
management been allowing a large seller to flout the rules--they freely admit
this without even a hint of remorse. But the real coup de grâce here is that
the only reason that any action is likely to occur is NOT because the behavior
violates policy but rather because it is causing trouble with the tax man.

Russell, this warrants an explanation. Will you share with the community why
no action has been taken? I suspect the answer will be no, but I'd love
to be proven wrong.

I'm a bit surprised that an admin would say such a thing. It is still not
totally obvious what they are doing wrong, aside from being a bit slow due to
international shipping. If it is tax reasons, maybe it is to do with where stock
is at the time of the sale.

If they know a store is breaking rules or even laws, then something should be
done with priority. If they are not breaking rules, nothing should be said in
public.
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Teup (6598)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Buying, chetzler writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This is a remarkable statement from a BrickLink admin. I'm surprised that
it seems to have elicited hardly any discussion or concern. One of BL's
top admins pops into a discussion and casually states that one of BrickLink's
largest sellers has been breaking one of the site's cardinal rules for a
long time and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

Well put, you're totally right. But...

  Are we really to the point where no one is shocked by this?

..yeah, as far as I'm concerned, we reached that point long ago. We've
known for a long time that Bricklink's policy is "ok kids, now play nice,
don't break any laws or such, we don't know what they are and we're
not gonna check but just make sure you know them and don't break them! have
fun!"
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Location:  USA, Oregon
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Store: MacsBricks
In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  They have been breaking the rules for a long time and we (admin) have not done
anything about it. But because of tax reasons, we are going to start enforcing
this policy soon - by the end of the year.

This was quick in Bricklink time, only 810 days.
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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Store: Old Grey Bricks
In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  
I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

Ah, thanks for responding with the details. It seems that your items ARE in a
foreign country, but your being a part owner of the place where your stock is
located means that you DO have the items in hand. It's odd, to be sure, as
the rest of us have to be in possession of our physical stock, but you seem to
have covered your bases.

I was not attempting to be critical with my statement, I was just trying to understand
the situation. I neither know nor care anything about whatever taxes are involved.


Thanks and good luck with your business!
Jen
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amyfol (58620)

Location:  USA, Kentucky
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No Longer RegisteredNo Longer Registered
Store Closed Store: Kentuckiana Bricks
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In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  
I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

Ah, thanks for responding with the details. It seems that your items ARE in a
foreign country, but your being a part owner of the place where your stock is
located means that you DO have the items in hand. It's odd, to be sure, as
the rest of us have to be in possession of our physical stock, but you seem to
have covered your bases.

I was not attempting to be critical with my statement, I was just trying to understand
the situation. I neither know nor care anything about whatever taxes are involved.


Thanks and good luck with your business!
Jen


Thank you for your positive comments Jennifer!

All of our orders ship from Chalfont PA with USPS. This means that no matter
how small your order is, you always have USPS tracking available as opposed to
most orders you place with stores that are located overseas.. If something is
wrong you have recourse with a company in the US. On top of that we have one
of the widest selections of bricks on Bricklink, which can save a lot on shipping
costs if you need different types of bricks.
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Location:  USA, California
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In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  In Buying, jennnifer writes:
  
I apologize if I misunderstood how these stores are operating, but how are they
getting around the items in hand rule? Yes, I have these items in hand...but
they are in a warehouse in a foreign country?

Jen

Ah, thanks for responding with the details. It seems that your items ARE in a
foreign country, but your being a part owner of the place where your stock is
located means that you DO have the items in hand. It's odd, to be sure, as
the rest of us have to be in possession of our physical stock, but you seem to
have covered your bases.

I was not attempting to be critical with my statement, I was just trying to understand
the situation. I neither know nor care anything about whatever taxes are involved.


Thanks and good luck with your business!

Ownership and physical possession are two different things. We will need to expand
what is meant by "on hand" in the TOS, but it means that you must physically
have the items present at the address registered on your BrickLink account. This
is one of the main reasons we confirm the address when we verify new sellers.

Regarding this particular seller (and I am referring to both legal entities)
they ARE currently in violation of the TOS and we will be working with them to
align. The problem is not having multiple stores or some tax obligation on their
part. The issue is solely with listing things in a store located (as per the
ID card) in the United States that are not physically located at that address,
and vice versa.

I'm not going to get into details about the tax requirements that also compel
us to uphold the TOS in this way, only to say that all inventory (stock) in every
BrickLink store must be located where the store is located, especially in relation
to the country. This has recently become a serious issue since marketplace rules
have changed regarding the obligations of the platform.
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peregrinator (774)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Store: Faber Family Bricks
In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  Ownership and physical possession are two different things. We will need to expand
what is meant by "on hand" in the TOS, but it means that you must physically
have the items present at the address registered on your BrickLink account. This
is one of the main reasons we confirm the address when we verify new sellers.

Wouldn't this make things difficult for a seller who uses off-site storage,
or whose business address is a private mailbox?
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Stellar (3494)

Location:  Spain, Comunidad Valenciana
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Store: Stellar Bricks
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In Buying, peregrinator writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  Ownership and physical possession are two different things. We will need to expand
what is meant by "on hand" in the TOS, but it means that you must physically
have the items present at the address registered on your BrickLink account. This
is one of the main reasons we confirm the address when we verify new sellers.

Wouldn't this make things difficult for a seller who uses off-site storage,
or whose business address is a private mailbox?

Right, your business address doesn't needs to match your warehouse/s, it
shouldn't matter legally for Bricklink if both addresses (or more) are different
if they all are in the same country.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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Location:  USA, Washington
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Store: ConstrucToys
In Buying, Stellar writes:
  In Buying, peregrinator writes:
  In Buying, Admin_Russell writes:
  Ownership and physical possession are two different things. We will need to expand
what is meant by "on hand" in the TOS, but it means that you must physically
have the items present at the address registered on your BrickLink account. This
is one of the main reasons we confirm the address when we verify new sellers.

Wouldn't this make things difficult for a seller who uses off-site storage,
or whose business address is a private mailbox?

Right, your business address doesn't needs to match your warehouse/s, it
shouldn't matter legally for Bricklink if both addresses (or more) are different
if they all are in the same country.

Russell’s third paragraph:

I'm not going to get into details about the tax requirements that also compel
us to uphold the TOS in this way, only to say that all inventory (stock) in every
BrickLink store must be located where the store is located, especially in
relation to the country.
 

Given this concern, I’d imagine that as long as the "listed for sale" inventory
is held within the addressee’s state, here in the US.

For other countries, parameters along similar lines, would no doubt need to apply.

-popsicle
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Leftoverbricks (2225)

Location:  Netherlands, Overijssel
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Store: Leftoverbricks
In Buying, zorbanj writes:
  Curious, how do you know all this? I do think you're right, as I applied
my wanted list against both stores and everything was the same.

In Buying, Stellar writes:
  
Seems that:

https://store.bricklink.com/amyfol

Is the same store as:

https://store.bricklink.com/apple_brick

And that they pick and pack the orders in Europe, ship them together to a warehouse
in USA and then ship individually to USA customers.

But as yorbrick stated, if you can wait and they explain it then that's it,
they still have a 98.53% praise.

I would like to add my own story about this topic. We're talking about one
of the largest sellers on BL and between 2012 and today I placed 55 orders @Afolsupply.

All went well with regard to quality of parts and completeness of the order.
Rarely there were issues with shipping time and packaging, but I never felt that
this was important enough to leave neutral or negative feedback. When I did have
a question/complaint it was answered within 24h and always satisfactory.

Like many of you I'm curious to know how a single LEGO inventory can operate
from two different continents.

Concerning taxes I did some homework.
Toy Pro is registered at the chamber of commerce in the Netherlands and I paid
some bucks to get the annual accounts of 2019 (which they are obliged to publish).
I didn't see anything alarming here, everything is OK. I don't know if
there is a similar transparency about companies in the USA but for some reason
I think there isn't.

I know that Dennis is very smart and runs special software to handle his business.
My advice to @Russell: I hope you can work out a solution.

Good luck to all of you!
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Location:  USA, Missouri
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Store: Tons of Bricks (GDM)
In Buying, Stellar writes:

  Seems that:

https://store.bricklink.com/amyfol

Is the same store as:

https://store.bricklink.com/apple_brick

And that they pick and pack the orders in Europe, ship them together to a warehouse
in USA and then ship individually to USA customers.

But as yorbrick stated, if you can wait and they explain it then that's it,
they still have a 98.53% praise.

So that means, technically, that store owner has over 100,000 feedback, correct
(61k on AFOL supply and 45K on Kentuckiana Bricks)?

Time to get the next color feedback brick.
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Location:  USA, Washington
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Store: ConstrucToys
In Buying, firestar246 writes:
  In Buying, Stellar writes:

  Seems that:

https://store.bricklink.com/amyfol

Is the same store as:

https://store.bricklink.com/apple_brick

And that they pick and pack the orders in Europe, ship them together to a warehouse
in USA and then ship individually to USA customers.

But as yorbrick stated, if you can wait and they explain it then that's it,
they still have a 98.53% praise.

So that means, technically, that store owner has over 100,000 feedback, correct
(61k on AFOL supply and 45K on Kentuckiana Bricks)?

Time to get the next color feedback brick.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1223954
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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Store: Sepi Bricks
In Buying, sickofthis88 writes:
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Hi!

I read what you wrote and 100% agree with you. I also purchased from this buyer
some time ago and neutraled the store.

I'm not here to hate on the store but rather here to agree with you. I ordered
some time ago but yes, I had the same issues of slow shipping you did. Also note
to seller was completely ignored.

Knetuchiana Bricks is a massive store so I don't blame them for slow shipping.
Plus USPS is really slow right now. 2 weeks isn't as much as I have had to
wait for a domestic shipping. Your claims are valid but not for a Negative.

This is typically the case with massive stores so I usually just stick to the
smaller ones.

Take care, - SB
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Location:  USA, Maryland
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I agree it sounds like the store is huge. I have read most of the thread and
it seems that this guy lives in Kentucky, ships from Pennsylvania (the address
on my packing slip) and has ownership in a store in the Netherlands. I believe
they also have an LLC with an on line store based in Kentucky. My package was
actually sent using a box from the on line store.

Not sure how any of this is allowed, taxes or no taxes, I assumed bricklink was
for smaller niche sellers, but this guy seems to have the ability to amass hundreds
of thousands of pieces to sell. In the past I have paid extra from small stores
that have great reviews and will go back to doing that now. I have also gone
directly to LEGO to get pieces, which was fairly easy, not to mention the shipping
charges are so much less and there are no additional fees.

The reason I gave a negative review is not solely because of slow shipping, but
because I had the tracking number within a couple of days but the package was
not taken to the Post office for more than a week and only after I told him I
was going to file a NSS and/or contact my credit card company for a refund.
All of sudden my package was at the Post Office even having the date posted changed
as if somehow the Post office was sitting on the package which I doubt. I have
family that works for the Postal Service and they will scan the packages as soon
as they come in, BUT, it could take a very long time for the packages to reach
their destination. That is not the fault of the seller. Last December I watched
a package sit at one site for more than a week before it moved. I advised the
seller and when the package arrived, he got a positive review.

This seller continues to amass large numbers of negative and neutral comments
nearly all regarding shipping, many since I first posted. So I wish Bricklink
had a way of affecting changes when this happens. But again, I guess the fees
collected from a huge seller more than make up for aggravation from a small percentage
of buyers.
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Location:  USA, Texas
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In Buying, Phantom_Buyer writes:
  In Buying, sickofthis88 writes:
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Hi!

I read what you wrote and 100% agree with you. I also purchased from this buyer
some time ago and neutraled the store.

  Take care, - SB

Shouldn't that be neutered?
John P