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| | | Author: | Ziegelmeister  | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2021 14:32 | | Subject: | New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 206 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| LEGO hasn't released their new PET plastic yet have they? Specifically the
Camp Nou set?
It's been a while since I handled large quantities of 2x4s and they just
seem to sound different.
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2021 14:59 | | Subject: | Re: New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, Yellow.Brick writes:
| | LEGO hasn't released their new PET plastic yet have they? Specifically the
Camp Nou set?
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No, contrarily to the “plants from plants” that was a real release, the new PET
plastic is still in research phase.
IIUC, they still don’t know if it will take to dying (colours) satisfactorily.
Still a couple years to go.
| | It's been a while since I handled large quantities of 2x4s and they just
seem to sound different.
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LEGO is continuously “tuning” its ABS and it has indeed shifted from a “pluck”
sound to a more “plum” sound (from memory from the words of the head of the Consumer-Perceived
Quality department’s video-live presentation last year).
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2021 15:34 | | Subject: | Re: New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
| | | | It's been a while since I handled large quantities of 2x4s and they just
seem to sound different.
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LEGO is continuously “tuning” its ABS and it has indeed shifted from a “pluck”
sound to a more “plum” sound (from memory from the words of the head of the Consumer-Perceived
Quality department’s video-live presentation last year).
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Oh, excellent description! Yes, the new parts sound like "flop" rather than "clunck"
to me  To me it takes away from the feel of Lego, and makes me actually less
interested in keeping things from my shop for myself. But that is entirely biased
and nostalgia-based 
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2021 16:05 | | Subject: | Re: New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, Teup writes:
| | In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
| | | | It's been a while since I handled large quantities of 2x4s and they just
seem to sound different.
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LEGO is continuously “tuning” its ABS and it has indeed shifted from a “pluck”
sound to a more “plum” sound (from memory from the words of the head of the Consumer-Perceived
Quality department’s video-live presentation last year).
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Oh, excellent description! Yes, the new parts sound like "flop" rather than "clunck"
to me To me it takes away from the feel of Lego, and makes me actually less
interested in keeping things from my shop for myself. But that is entirely biased
and nostalgia-based
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It’s just because I’m not English (nor Dutch) and tried to write the sounds I
remembered Bjarke Schønwandt¹ (a Dane?) make while he spoke English. There’s
many places I can be wrong or not accurate enough (hearing, memory, cultural
bias, transliteration…), and your “flop/clunck” may be as good a rendition
A French rooster going to Germany will go from “cocorico” to “kikeriki.”
(¹ Found his name back from this: https://www.newelementary.com/2020/09/missing-faulty-lego-consumer-perceived-quality.html
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| | | | | | | Author: | jbroman | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2021 01:01 | | Subject: | Re: New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, SylvainLS writes:
| | In LEGO, Yellow.Brick writes:
| | LEGO hasn't released their new PET plastic yet have they? Specifically the
Camp Nou set?
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No, contrarily to the “plants from plants” that was a real release, the new PET
plastic is still in research phase.
IIUC, they still don’t know if it will take to dying (colours) satisfactorily.
Still a couple years to go.
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How we're working on making LEGO® bricks more sustainable! - LEGO® CON 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXTTopE_Yc
New bricks from bottles starts at 3:29
So you're a plastic bottle who wants to become a LEGO brick…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gNIB_qI1nI
Notice these prototype bricks don't have the LEGO logo on the studs.
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| | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2021 15:30 | | Subject: | Re: New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, Yellow.Brick writes:
| | LEGO hasn't released their new PET plastic yet have they? Specifically the
Camp Nou set?
It's been a while since I handled large quantities of 2x4s and they just
seem to sound different.
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There's definitely something different about the parts these days - especially
the sound, like you said. It is very noticable with trans-clear panels and windscreens,
they sound and feel less "hard" and more like (although I'm sure it isn't)
polyethylene. Besides the fact they have a different (more bluish) shade to them.
But I notice this new "feel" and sound with the other colours too these days.
And I noticed green has become rather translucent.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2021 16:00 | | Subject: | Re: New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, Teup writes:
| | In LEGO, Yellow.Brick writes:
| | LEGO hasn't released their new PET plastic yet have they? Specifically the
Camp Nou set?
It's been a while since I handled large quantities of 2x4s and they just
seem to sound different.
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There's definitely something different about the parts these days - especially
the sound, like you said. It is very noticable with trans-clear panels and windscreens,
they sound and feel less "hard" and more like (although I'm sure it isn't)
polyethylene. Besides the fact they have a different (more bluish) shade to them.
But I notice this new "feel" and sound with the other colours too these days.
And I noticed green has become rather translucent.
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Some (all?) transparent parts have gone from PC, polycarbonate, which is very
hard and sharp, I’d say, or glass-like, to MABS / transparent ABS which is
like non-transparent parts, softer.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2021 17:14 | | Subject: | Re: New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, Teup writes:
| | There's definitely something different about the parts these days - especially
the sound, like you said. It is very noticable with trans-clear panels and windscreens,
they sound and feel less "hard" and more like (although I'm sure it isn't)
polyethylene.
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That's exactly it. They feel "soft" even though they aren't; like I
could fuse them together if I rubbed them together really hard.
This didn't seem that noticeable with all the other sets I've recently
built that had mostly 1x4-8's.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2021 17:38 | | Subject: | Re: New plastic roll out | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO, Yellow.Brick writes:
| | In LEGO, Teup writes:
| | There's definitely something different about the parts these days - especially
the sound, like you said. It is very noticable with trans-clear panels and windscreens,
they sound and feel less "hard" and more like (although I'm sure it isn't)
polyethylene.
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That's exactly it. They feel "soft" even though they aren't; like I
could fuse them together if I rubbed them together really hard.
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Ironically the "hard" polycarbonate bricks used for transparent/translucent are
a lot more likely to "fuse"
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