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 Author: ShenandoahBrick View Messages Posted By ShenandoahBrick
 Posted: Jun 27, 2021 20:56
 Subject: The Bricklink Captain Rex Scam
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ShenandoahBrick (835)

Location:  USA, Virginia
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Hello! I and a few others have fallen victim to a scam on Bricklink.

We found a seller with 65 new sw0450 (P2 Captain Rex), listed at $65 each minifigure.
Fishy and too good to be true, yes, but you miss 100% of the deals you don't
snag! Not to mention, this seller also was new and only had 1 Positive Feedback.

So I put an order for 6 Minifigures and waited, and to my surprise, the order
was shipped with tracking! A few days before receiving, I see that another buyer
had left a negative FB stating it was a scam and that the minifigs were fake.
With all hope lost of receiving real LEGO, I waited for the arrival of the parcel
so that I could start a PayPal claim.

Lo and behold I received the order. Open it and find 6 fake/knockoff plain P1
Clone Troopers (with real LEGO blasters). 3 of them had blue marker on the helmet
fins (haha).

So messages via BL did not work. I filed a claim with PayPal and the seller responded
to PayPal saying "I don't understand, he got what he payed for." PayPal states
once I return and upload tracking to PayPal, and it gets marked delivered, I
will have my refund sent to me automatically. I also filed a NSS.

Couple side facts/thoughts,

1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

2. He will probably attempt to say I sent him fakes in return.

3. Others have ordered other minifigs listed as new from him and have received
them in used condition along with fake p1 clones substitutions.

It's all just kinda bizarre that it's like a half scam. I am not sure
how you could confuse sw0442
with sw0450. Yes, all the red flags were there and I should not have ordered.
But I felt if it was true, I'd be kicking myself for not getting them. The
sellers store is linked here https://store.bricklink.com/Legofansince05?p=Legofansince05#/shop
 Author: BrickBros20 View Messages Posted By BrickBros20
 Posted: Jun 27, 2021 21:20
 Subject: Re: The Bricklink Captain Rex Scam
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BrickBros20 (2965)

Location:  USA, Florida
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In Problem Order, Xemptsbricks writes:
  Hello! I and a few others have fallen victim to a scam on Bricklink.

We found a seller with 65 new sw0450 (P2 Captain Rex), listed at $65 each minifigure.
Fishy and too good to be true, yes, but you miss 100% of the deals you don't
snag! Not to mention, this seller also was new and only had 1 Positive Feedback.

So I put an order for 6 Minifigures and waited, and to my surprise, the order
was shipped with tracking! A few days before receiving, I see that another buyer
had left a negative FB stating it was a scam and that the minifigs were fake.
With all hope lost of receiving real LEGO, I waited for the arrival of the parcel
so that I could start a PayPal claim.

Lo and behold I received the order. Open it and find 6 fake/knockoff plain P1
Clone Troopers (with real LEGO blasters). 3 of them had blue marker on the helmet
fins (haha).

So messages via BL did not work. I filed a claim with PayPal and the seller responded
to PayPal saying "I don't understand, he got what he payed for." PayPal states
once I return and upload tracking to PayPal, and it gets marked delivered, I
will have my refund sent to me automatically. I also filed a NSS.

Couple side facts/thoughts,

1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

2. He will probably attempt to say I sent him fakes in return.

3. Others have ordered other minifigs listed as new from him and have received
them in used condition along with fake p1 clones substitutions.

It's all just kinda bizarre that it's like a half scam. I am not sure
how you could confuse sw0442
with sw0450. Yes, all the red flags were there and I should not have ordered.
But I felt if it was true, I'd be kicking myself for not getting them. The
sellers store is linked here https://store.bricklink.com/Legofansince05?p=Legofansince05#/shop

+1
I also placed an order with this store in the hopes that it wasn't a scam,
but at this point, it is certainly a scam. My package will most likely arrive
tomorrow.
~Brick Brothers
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: Jun 27, 2021 22:07
 Subject: Re: The Bricklink Captain Rex Scam
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 Author: ShenandoahBrick View Messages Posted By ShenandoahBrick
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 06:10
 Subject: Re: The Bricklink Captain Rex Scam
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ShenandoahBrick (835)

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I do not. That was speculation.


In Problem Order, tEoS writes:
  If you know the other user ID, then please file a merge request.

https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 00:00
 Subject: Re: The Bricklink Captain Rex Scam
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rab1234 (1933)

Location:  USA, North Carolina
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Wow. Quick way to scam over $4000. Couple of points:
Can’t bricklink code be updated to detect these extremely unlikely listings of
large quantities of rare figs at well below market price?
Shouldn’t these orders be deleted from historical pricing? They’re going to
screw up 6 month averages


In Problem Order, Xemptsbricks writes:
  Hello! I and a few others have fallen victim to a scam on Bricklink.

We found a seller with 65 new sw0450 (P2 Captain Rex), listed at $65 each minifigure.
Fishy and too good to be true, yes, but you miss 100% of the deals you don't
snag! Not to mention, this seller also was new and only had 1 Positive Feedback.

So I put an order for 6 Minifigures and waited, and to my surprise, the order
was shipped with tracking! A few days before receiving, I see that another buyer
had left a negative FB stating it was a scam and that the minifigs were fake.
With all hope lost of receiving real LEGO, I waited for the arrival of the parcel
so that I could start a PayPal claim.

Lo and behold I received the order. Open it and find 6 fake/knockoff plain P1
Clone Troopers (with real LEGO blasters). 3 of them had blue marker on the helmet
fins (haha).

So messages via BL did not work. I filed a claim with PayPal and the seller responded
to PayPal saying "I don't understand, he got what he payed for." PayPal states
once I return and upload tracking to PayPal, and it gets marked delivered, I
will have my refund sent to me automatically. I also filed a NSS.

Couple side facts/thoughts,

1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

2. He will probably attempt to say I sent him fakes in return.

3. Others have ordered other minifigs listed as new from him and have received
them in used condition along with fake p1 clones substitutions.

It's all just kinda bizarre that it's like a half scam. I am not sure
how you could confuse sw0442
with sw0450. Yes, all the red flags were there and I should not have ordered.
But I felt if it was true, I'd be kicking myself for not getting them. The
sellers store is linked here https://store.bricklink.com/Legofansince05?p=Legofansince05#/shop
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 09:53
 Subject: Re: The Bricklink Captain Rex Scam
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MrPetovan (931)

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Not reliably, and then BrickLink would have to deal with the false positives.
It already is hard enough to explain to angry sellers who got listings rightfully
pulled why, so it probably wouldn't be worth it.

In Problem Order, rab1234 writes:
  Wow. Quick way to scam over $4000. Couple of points:
Can’t bricklink code be updated to detect these extremely unlikely listings of
large quantities of rare figs at well below market price?
Shouldn’t these orders be deleted from historical pricing? They’re going to
screw up 6 month averages


In Problem Order, Xemptsbricks writes:
  Hello! I and a few others have fallen victim to a scam on Bricklink.

We found a seller with 65 new sw0450 (P2 Captain Rex), listed at $65 each minifigure.
Fishy and too good to be true, yes, but you miss 100% of the deals you don't
snag! Not to mention, this seller also was new and only had 1 Positive Feedback.

So I put an order for 6 Minifigures and waited, and to my surprise, the order
was shipped with tracking! A few days before receiving, I see that another buyer
had left a negative FB stating it was a scam and that the minifigs were fake.
With all hope lost of receiving real LEGO, I waited for the arrival of the parcel
so that I could start a PayPal claim.

Lo and behold I received the order. Open it and find 6 fake/knockoff plain P1
Clone Troopers (with real LEGO blasters). 3 of them had blue marker on the helmet
fins (haha).

So messages via BL did not work. I filed a claim with PayPal and the seller responded
to PayPal saying "I don't understand, he got what he payed for." PayPal states
once I return and upload tracking to PayPal, and it gets marked delivered, I
will have my refund sent to me automatically. I also filed a NSS.

Couple side facts/thoughts,

1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

2. He will probably attempt to say I sent him fakes in return.

3. Others have ordered other minifigs listed as new from him and have received
them in used condition along with fake p1 clones substitutions.

It's all just kinda bizarre that it's like a half scam. I am not sure
how you could confuse sw0442
with sw0450. Yes, all the red flags were there and I should not have ordered.
But I felt if it was true, I'd be kicking myself for not getting them. The
sellers store is linked here https://store.bricklink.com/Legofansince05?p=Legofansince05#/shop
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 12:57
 Subject: Re: The Bricklink Captain Rex Scam
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rab1234 (1933)

Location:  USA, North Carolina
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Would be easy to put something in place to prevent the obviously suspicious,
but yes harder if you want zero false positives. Could require a photo for example.
But this one was extremely obvious as it was someone adding more than double
the worldwide quantity available at 1/3 of the price all at once.


In Problem Order, MrPetovan writes:
  Not reliably, and then BrickLink would have to deal with the false positives.
It already is hard enough to explain to angry sellers who got listings rightfully
pulled why, so it probably wouldn't be worth it.

In Problem Order, rab1234 writes:
  Wow. Quick way to scam over $4000. Couple of points:
Can’t bricklink code be updated to detect these extremely unlikely listings of
large quantities of rare figs at well below market price?
Shouldn’t these orders be deleted from historical pricing? They’re going to
screw up 6 month averages


In Problem Order, Xemptsbricks writes:
  Hello! I and a few others have fallen victim to a scam on Bricklink.

We found a seller with 65 new sw0450 (P2 Captain Rex), listed at $65 each minifigure.
Fishy and too good to be true, yes, but you miss 100% of the deals you don't
snag! Not to mention, this seller also was new and only had 1 Positive Feedback.

So I put an order for 6 Minifigures and waited, and to my surprise, the order
was shipped with tracking! A few days before receiving, I see that another buyer
had left a negative FB stating it was a scam and that the minifigs were fake.
With all hope lost of receiving real LEGO, I waited for the arrival of the parcel
so that I could start a PayPal claim.

Lo and behold I received the order. Open it and find 6 fake/knockoff plain P1
Clone Troopers (with real LEGO blasters). 3 of them had blue marker on the helmet
fins (haha).

So messages via BL did not work. I filed a claim with PayPal and the seller responded
to PayPal saying "I don't understand, he got what he payed for." PayPal states
once I return and upload tracking to PayPal, and it gets marked delivered, I
will have my refund sent to me automatically. I also filed a NSS.

Couple side facts/thoughts,

1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

2. He will probably attempt to say I sent him fakes in return.

3. Others have ordered other minifigs listed as new from him and have received
them in used condition along with fake p1 clones substitutions.

It's all just kinda bizarre that it's like a half scam. I am not sure
how you could confuse sw0442
with sw0450. Yes, all the red flags were there and I should not have ordered.
But I felt if it was true, I'd be kicking myself for not getting them. The
sellers store is linked here https://store.bricklink.com/Legofansince05?p=Legofansince05#/shop
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 14:26
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In Problem Order, Xemptsbricks writes:
  Hello! I and a few others have fallen victim to a scam on Bricklink.

We found a seller with 65 new sw0450 (P2 Captain Rex), listed at $65 each minifigure.
Fishy and too good to be true, yes, but you miss 100% of the deals you don't
snag! Not to mention, this seller also was new and only had 1 Positive Feedback.

So I put an order for 6 Minifigures and waited, and to my surprise, the order
was shipped with tracking!

The vast majority of USPS parcels come with free tracking, so that doesn't
surprise me. You may want to check the label to see what zip it was shipped from,
and note if that (significantly) disagrees with where they claim to be located.


  1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

I find it slightly surprising that one buyer left this seller positive FB, and
only days before the roof caved in. I wonder if that buyer even understands what
they received.


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 Author: ShenandoahBrick View Messages Posted By ShenandoahBrick
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 14:52
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ShenandoahBrick (835)

Location:  USA, Virginia
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  The vast majority of USPS parcels come with free tracking, so that doesn't
surprise me. You may want to check the label to see what zip it was shipped from,
and note if that (significantly) disagrees with where they claim to be located.


Not sure what you're talkin about with free postage. But his address matched
the return address.


  
  1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

I find it slightly surprising that one buyer left this seller positive FB, and
only days before the roof caved in. I wonder if that buyer even understands what
they received.


Could have ordered one of the legit minifigs he had

  
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 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 15:04
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Problem Order, Xemptsbricks writes:
  
  The vast majority of USPS parcels come with free tracking, so that doesn't
surprise me. You may want to check the label to see what zip it was shipped from,
and note if that (significantly) disagrees with where they claim to be located.


Not sure what you're talkin about with free postage. But his address matched
the return address.

Let's put it this way: All packages shipped via USPS have a tracking number.
So, I would be more surprised if the package did not ship with tracking.
Of course, sellers are not required to input the tracking number into BrickLink.

  
  
  1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

I find it slightly surprising that one buyer left this seller positive FB, and
only days before the roof caved in. I wonder if that buyer even understands what
they received.


Could have ordered one of the legit minifigs he had

  
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 Author: ShenandoahBrick View Messages Posted By ShenandoahBrick
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 15:12
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ShenandoahBrick (835)

Location:  USA, Virginia
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Oh yeah, I was just surprised that he was fulfilling an order. I thought it would
be more of a quick cash grab, then the long dragged out mess we have now.



In Problem Order, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Problem Order, Xemptsbricks writes:
  
  The vast majority of USPS parcels come with free tracking, so that doesn't
surprise me. You may want to check the label to see what zip it was shipped from,
and note if that (significantly) disagrees with where they claim to be located.


Not sure what you're talkin about with free postage. But his address matched
the return address.

Let's put it this way: All packages shipped via USPS have a tracking number.
So, I would be more surprised if the package did not ship with tracking.
Of course, sellers are not required to input the tracking number into BrickLink.

  
  
  1. He isn't a new seller and he just made an another account to snatch $4,225
quick via the scam. I think this because he updated the orders and fulfilled
them with no hiccups. drive thru, invoices, packed/shipped statuses, ect.

I find it slightly surprising that one buyer left this seller positive FB, and
only days before the roof caved in. I wonder if that buyer even understands what
they received.


Could have ordered one of the legit minifigs he had

  
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 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: Jun 28, 2021 15:36
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In Problem Order, Xemptsbricks writes:
  Oh yeah, I was just surprised that he was fulfilling an order. I thought it would
be more of a quick cash grab, then the long dragged out mess we have now.



And that's his plan. Even with paying postage, he still gets a ton of money
off of this scam, and it's harder/takes a bit longer for the buyer to get
their money back, allowing more people to fall for the scam before being caught.