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| | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 13:52 | Subject: | adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 170 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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| | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 14:24 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 67 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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Hello,
Velcro would be one way to secure a LEGO model to a wall. However, there are
other ways. For example,
is shown hanging from the wall in some of the pictures on LEGO.com. I'm not
quite sure how they did it (it's not shown in the instructions), but the
base is made up of nine
which are hollow on the bottom, so I suppose that you could use a couple of nails
in the wall to hang it. I'm not how big your models are or what parts they
are made of, but if you use that part as a base, then I think you can hang the
models using just nails. I'm sure someone else will have a better idea.
As far as adhesives go, I cannot advise you on that as I never glue my LEGO models
together, but unless it's something fragile, I don't know why you would
need adhesive as LEGO bricks will stay together without it.
I hope that helps!
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| | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 14:46 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, wildchicken13 writes:
| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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Hello,
Velcro would be one way to secure a LEGO model to a wall. However, there are
other ways. For example,
is shown hanging from the wall in some of the pictures on LEGO.com. I'm not
quite sure how they did it (it's not shown in the instructions)
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I take that back: Actually, it is shown in the instructions. The last step shows
the addition of two of the parts MrPetovan mentioned:
Which appear to be designed to go on a nail. So, that is one way to hang a LEGO
model from a wall.
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| | | | | | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 14:50 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Thanks for ideas! My pieces are already made so adding different bases would
be tricky. I am an artist and I am making color compositions using Lego and they
will be on display at an art gallery and sold. I need them to be secure enough
that if dropped they won't break. That's why I want to adhere them. I
am also putting color paper behind them so I need to adhere them to the paper
(that's where id use velcro I think) and then have the paper in a box frame.
Picture attached is one of the compositions, on paper, but it isn't attached.
Then I need to put the whole thing in a box frame.
In Problem, wildchicken13 writes:
| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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Hello,
Velcro would be one way to secure a LEGO model to a wall. However, there are
other ways. For example,
is shown hanging from the wall in some of the pictures on LEGO.com. I'm not
quite sure how they did it (it's not shown in the instructions), but the
base is made up of nine
which are hollow on the bottom, so I suppose that you could use a couple of nails
in the wall to hang it. I'm not how big your models are or what parts they
are made of, but if you use that part as a base, then I think you can hang the
models using just nails. I'm sure someone else will have a better idea.
As far as adhesives go, I cannot advise you on that as I never glue my LEGO models
together, but unless it's something fragile, I don't know why you would
need adhesive as LEGO bricks will stay together without it.
I hope that helps!
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| | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 15:07 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 52 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Thanks for ideas! My pieces are already made so adding different bases would
be tricky. I am an artist and I am making color compositions using Lego and they
will be on display at an art gallery and sold. I need them to be secure enough
that if dropped they won't break. That's why I want to adhere them. I
am also putting color paper behind them so I need to adhere them to the paper
(that's where id use velcro I think) and then have the paper in a box frame.
Picture attached is one of the compositions, on paper, but it isn't attached.
Then I need to put the whole thing in a box frame.
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Wow, that is awesome! I'm not a glue expert, but here is a similar question
from Bricks StackExchange that has a few different answers:
https://bricks.stackexchange.com/questions/1037/what-glue-should-i-use-for-permanent-lego-construction
To summarize, it looks like the LEGO Group uses a solvent called methyl ethyl
ketone (MEK), notably at LEGOLAND Parks and to secure minifigures to magnets.
However, rubber cement or acetone may also do the trick.
Velcro would probably be a good way to secure a LEGO model to a piece of paper.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 20:06 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, wildchicken13 writes:
| To summarize, it looks like the LEGO Group uses a solvent called methyl ethyl
ketone (MEK), notably at LEGOLAND Parks and to secure minifigures to magnets.
However, rubber cement or acetone may also do the trick.
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Yes, the trick is to use a solvent so that the bricks actually fuse and
become a single piece. IIRC, you need to use a stronger acetone than OTC nail
polish remover.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 00:15 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Thanks for the clarification and help!
In Problem, peregrinator writes:
| In Problem, wildchicken13 writes:
| To summarize, it looks like the LEGO Group uses a solvent called methyl ethyl
ketone (MEK), notably at LEGOLAND Parks and to secure minifigures to magnets.
However, rubber cement or acetone may also do the trick.
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Yes, the trick is to use a solvent so that the bricks actually fuse and
become a single piece. IIRC, you need to use a stronger acetone than OTC nail
polish remover.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 00:14 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 24 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Thanks, this is helpful! I appreciate it.
In Problem, wildchicken13 writes:
| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Thanks for ideas! My pieces are already made so adding different bases would
be tricky. I am an artist and I am making color compositions using Lego and they
will be on display at an art gallery and sold. I need them to be secure enough
that if dropped they won't break. That's why I want to adhere them. I
am also putting color paper behind them so I need to adhere them to the paper
(that's where id use velcro I think) and then have the paper in a box frame.
Picture attached is one of the compositions, on paper, but it isn't attached.
Then I need to put the whole thing in a box frame.
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Wow, that is awesome! I'm not a glue expert, but here is a similar question
from Bricks StackExchange that has a few different answers:
https://bricks.stackexchange.com/questions/1037/what-glue-should-i-use-for-permanent-lego-construction
To summarize, it looks like the LEGO Group uses a solvent called methyl ethyl
ketone (MEK), notably at LEGOLAND Parks and to secure minifigures to magnets.
However, rubber cement or acetone may also do the trick.
Velcro would probably be a good way to secure a LEGO model to a piece of paper.
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| | | | | | | | Author: | Graham. | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 12:23 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 31 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| MEK is nasty stuff. Don't breath the fumes. Hard to find as well.
Acetone works, but high % not off the shelf nail polish remover. Apply with a
syringe (one that won't melt with acetone) it will flow around the joint.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 21:40 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Yeah, i think I'd need a chemistry hook up to even get some MEK. But good
idea with the syringe. thanks!
In Problem, Graham. writes:
| MEK is nasty stuff. Don't breath the fumes. Hard to find as well.
Acetone works, but high % not off the shelf nail polish remover. Apply with a
syringe (one that won't melt with acetone) it will flow around the joint.
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| | | | Author: | MrPetovan | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 14:35 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 57 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| LEGO recently released a part meant to hang sets off walls:
And I personally do not condone gluing LEGO parts together so I won’t be able
to help you with that part, sorry.
In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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| | | | | | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 14:54 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 41 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Oh thanks, those might help!
I'm sure in certain circles/settings gluing is not cool. This is for a very
specific purpose . But thanks anyway!
In Problem, MrPetovan writes:
| LEGO recently released a part meant to hang sets off walls:
And I personally do not condone gluing LEGO parts together so I won’t be able
to help you with that part, sorry.
In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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| | | | Author: | rick_holl | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 19:49 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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Maybe some 4081b in sandwich between the top of your creations and
a standard plate? You could hand those like a painting using strings
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| | | | Author: | mwright5 | Posted: | Jun 19, 2021 21:27 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 35 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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Add lots of Kraggle! Should hold together and make every AFOL cringe too!
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| | | | | | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 00:12 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 30 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| ha, yeah, I'm definitely learning there are do's and don't in this
world.
In Problem, mwright5 writes:
| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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Add lots of Kraggle! Should hold together and make every AFOL cringe too!
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| | | | Author: | Bricklord | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 09:04 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Kragling (gluing) bricks together is considered sacrilege. However, if you absolutely
must, different glues will have different results. Most model glues will actually
melt the plastic to one degree or another, but will affect the bricks. While
they will all hold the bricks together, many will be a permanent solution. If
you do not wish to damage the bricks and want to leave open the eventuality of
taking it apart, with effort, without harm to the brisks then use simple whitepaper
glue. It will not react with the ABS plastic and can be peeled off afterwards,
yet will holds bricks together quite well over time.
In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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| | | | | | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 10:17 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 27 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| Oh Thanks, yeah, I want to avoid warping if possible. My problem is these will
be sold as art pieces so I'm supposed to use like an archival glue, but most
don't work with plastic. If I was keeping them for myself I wouldn't
glue them, but since they are being sold as art pieces, the point is for them
to remain as they are, and not break if dropped. I completely understand how
this sort of thing is frowned upon. But I don't know, this purpose seems
different, I hope I can be forgiven!
In Problem, Bricklord writes:
| Kragling (gluing) bricks together is considered sacrilege. However, if you absolutely
must, different glues will have different results. Most model glues will actually
melt the plastic to one degree or another, but will affect the bricks. While
they will all hold the bricks together, many will be a permanent solution. If
you do not wish to damage the bricks and want to leave open the eventuality of
taking it apart, with effort, without harm to the brisks then use simple whitepaper
glue. It will not react with the ABS plastic and can be peeled off afterwards,
yet will holds bricks together quite well over time.
In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Hi,
I'm relatively new to using Lego for anything other than playing with my
kid. I'm making some pieces that will need to hang on a wall. I plan to use
velcro on the back to attach them but wondered if I'm trying to reinvent
a wheel that already exists. How do you hang your Lego creations?
Also want to affix the pieces so they cannot be taken apart. Does anyone use
a particular product for this? It would need to be non-yellowing for my purposes.
Any help or tips are welcome!
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| | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 10:53 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 28 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Oh Thanks, yeah, I want to avoid warping if possible. My problem is these will
be sold as art pieces so I'm supposed to use like an archival glue, but most
don't work with plastic. If I was keeping them for myself I wouldn't
glue them, but since they are being sold as art pieces, the point is for them
to remain as they are, and not break if dropped. I completely understand how
this sort of thing is frowned upon. But I don't know, this purpose seems
different, I hope I can be forgiven!
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Well, a Ming vase does break up if dropped. I’m not sure Michelangelo’s David
will fair well if dropped. And Mona Lisa is also handled with very much care
and certainly not dropped either.
You need to aim higher (in your choice of buyers)
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | kdrosenbaum | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 21:44 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 32 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| It's a valid point! I've been an artist for years but I've only recently
moved into sculpture, and there have been more broken pieces in the last year
than in the last 10 combined. So...art def does break if dropped.
In Problem, SylvainLS writes:
| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| Oh Thanks, yeah, I want to avoid warping if possible. My problem is these will
be sold as art pieces so I'm supposed to use like an archival glue, but most
don't work with plastic. If I was keeping them for myself I wouldn't
glue them, but since they are being sold as art pieces, the point is for them
to remain as they are, and not break if dropped. I completely understand how
this sort of thing is frowned upon. But I don't know, this purpose seems
different, I hope I can be forgiven!
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Well, a Ming vase does break up if dropped. I’m not sure Michelangelo’s David
will fair well if dropped. And Mona Lisa is also handled with very much care
and certainly not dropped either.
You need to aim higher (in your choice of buyers)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | Posted: | Jun 20, 2021 22:09 | Subject: | Re: adhering lego so it won't come apart | Viewed: | 37 times | Topic: | Problem | |
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| In Problem, kdrosenbaum writes:
| It's a valid point! I've been an artist for years but I've only recently
moved into sculpture, and there have been more broken pieces in the last year
than in the last 10 combined. So...art def does break if dropped.
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The difference with your art is that it can easily be put back together again
(as long as the buyer has a picture or remembers what it looked like).
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