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Hi!

We sold some used trans-neon bricks 1x1 and the buyer is saying that they are
not trans-neon orange because they do not glow under black light.

Unless we're mistaken, the new trans-neon orange does not glow under black
light, are we wrong here? I remember the bricks as I listed them not too long
ago and I had compared the color to trans-neon orange we had from brand new sets
parted out and to some trans-orange again from parted out brand new lego sets
and the color was not trans-orange, it had the reddish tinge that the trans-neon
orange has but it's not 'milky' like the old trans-neon orange.

Are we mistaken? If we are we will correct our assumptions but we seem to recall
seeing a discussion about trans-neon orange but can't find it at the moment.
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 Author: GreatBuy View Messages Posted By GreatBuy
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In Colors, CanadaFirst writes:
  Hi!

We sold some used trans-neon bricks 1x1 and the buyer is saying that they are
not trans-neon orange because they do not glow under black light.

Unless we're mistaken, the new trans-neon orange does not glow under black
light, are we wrong here? I remember the bricks as I listed them not too long
ago and I had compared the color to trans-neon orange we had from brand new sets
parted out and to some trans-orange again from parted out brand new lego sets
and the color was not trans-orange, it had the reddish tinge that the trans-neon
orange has but it's not 'milky' like the old trans-neon orange.

Are we mistaken? If we are we will correct our assumptions but we seem to recall
seeing a discussion about trans-neon orange but can't find it at the moment.

I'm sure someone here knows a lot more and can help more, but I'll offer
my two cents. LEGO has changed the plastic composition of transparent parts multiple
times, as well as changing the properties of trans neon orange in the process,
like you stated. I don't think I can post off site links here, but absorption
of ultra violet light is dependent on plastic composition, not color. You can
research this yourself and send resources to the buyer.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Colors, GreatBuy writes:
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I'm sure someone here knows a lot more and can help more, but I'll offer
my two cents. LEGO has changed the plastic composition of transparent parts multiple
times, as well as changing the properties of trans neon orange in the process,
like you stated. I don't think I can post off site links here,

You can certainly post off site links on the forum, just not ones to concurrent
sites (sites that sell LEGO, including S@H).


   but absorption
of ultra violet light is dependent on plastic composition, not color.

But colour is part of the composition


   You can
research this yourself and send resources to the buyer.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
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In Colors, CanadaFirst writes:
  Hi!

We sold some used trans-neon bricks 1x1 and the buyer is saying that they are
not trans-neon orange because they do not glow under black light.

Unless we're mistaken, the new trans-neon orange does not glow under black
light, are we wrong here? I remember the bricks as I listed them not too long
ago and I had compared the color to trans-neon orange we had from brand new sets
parted out and to some trans-orange again from parted out brand new lego sets
and the color was not trans-orange, it had the reddish tinge that the trans-neon
orange has but it's not 'milky' like the old trans-neon orange.

Are we mistaken? If we are we will correct our assumptions but we seem to recall
seeing a discussion about trans-neon orange but can't find it at the moment.

I think it's probably your mistake, for two reasons. First, 3005 1x1 bricks
have only been produced once in Trans-Neon Orange, in 2005 for set 7258, which
only had ONE copy. So the piece is very rare, whereas 3005 in Trans-Orange has
been in over 60 sets and is currently in production. Additionally, since 3005
in Trans-Neon Orange is only from 2005, which was before the transition to the
newer, redder Trans-Neon Orange color, it's very likely that the part only
exists in the older, milkier version of Trans-Neon Orange. If you think you found
redder ones, they're probably actually Trans-Orange, which also has an older/newer
shade difference with some looking more red than others.

Second, I've been cataloging 500,000 used parts over the last 6 months, and
I've been separating the newer and older shades of Trans-Neon Orange. I've
looked at them all under a blacklight, and they ALL fluoresce. The older shade
fluoresces more brightly, but the newer redder ones definitely fluoresce as well.
Every. Single. One. Whereas Trans-Orange never fluoresces, ever.

With how much detail-work I've been doing with colors recently, I could probably
definitely identify which color they are from a high-quality non-blacklight picture
if you can obtain one.
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In Colors, Brickitty writes:
  In Colors, CanadaFirst writes:
  Hi!

We sold some used trans-neon bricks 1x1 and the buyer is saying that they are
not trans-neon orange because they do not glow under black light.

Unless we're mistaken, the new trans-neon orange does not glow under black
light, are we wrong here? I remember the bricks as I listed them not too long
ago and I had compared the color to trans-neon orange we had from brand new sets
parted out and to some trans-orange again from parted out brand new lego sets
and the color was not trans-orange, it had the reddish tinge that the trans-neon
orange has but it's not 'milky' like the old trans-neon orange.

Are we mistaken? If we are we will correct our assumptions but we seem to recall
seeing a discussion about trans-neon orange but can't find it at the moment.

I think it's probably your mistake, for two reasons. First, 3005 1x1 bricks
have only been produced once in Trans-Neon Orange, in 2005 for set 7258, which
only had ONE copy. So the piece is very rare, whereas 3005 in Trans-Orange has
been in over 60 sets and is currently in production. Additionally, since 3005
in Trans-Neon Orange is only from 2005, which was before the transition to the
newer, redder Trans-Neon Orange color, it's very likely that the part only
exists in the older, milkier version of Trans-Neon Orange. If you think you found
redder ones, they're probably actually Trans-Orange, which also has an older/newer
shade difference with some looking more red than others.

Second, I've been cataloging 500,000 used parts over the last 6 months, and
I've been separating the newer and older shades of Trans-Neon Orange. I've
looked at them all under a blacklight, and they ALL fluoresce. The older shade
fluoresces more brightly, but the newer redder ones definitely fluoresce as well.
Every. Single. One. Whereas Trans-Orange never fluoresces, ever.

With how much detail-work I've been doing with colors recently, I could probably
definitely identify which color they are from a high-quality non-blacklight picture
if you can obtain one.

Thanks for the information. we offered to either refund or credit the part to
the buyer.
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In Colors, CanadaFirst writes:
  In Colors, Brickitty writes:
  In Colors, CanadaFirst writes:
  Hi!

We sold some used trans-neon bricks 1x1 and the buyer is saying that they are
not trans-neon orange because they do not glow under black light.

Unless we're mistaken, the new trans-neon orange does not glow under black
light, are we wrong here? I remember the bricks as I listed them not too long
ago and I had compared the color to trans-neon orange we had from brand new sets
parted out and to some trans-orange again from parted out brand new lego sets
and the color was not trans-orange, it had the reddish tinge that the trans-neon
orange has but it's not 'milky' like the old trans-neon orange.

Are we mistaken? If we are we will correct our assumptions but we seem to recall
seeing a discussion about trans-neon orange but can't find it at the moment.

I think it's probably your mistake, for two reasons. First, 3005 1x1 bricks
have only been produced once in Trans-Neon Orange, in 2005 for set 7258, which
only had ONE copy. So the piece is very rare, whereas 3005 in Trans-Orange has
been in over 60 sets and is currently in production. Additionally, since 3005
in Trans-Neon Orange is only from 2005, which was before the transition to the
newer, redder Trans-Neon Orange color, it's very likely that the part only
exists in the older, milkier version of Trans-Neon Orange. If you think you found
redder ones, they're probably actually Trans-Orange, which also has an older/newer
shade difference with some looking more red than others.

Second, I've been cataloging 500,000 used parts over the last 6 months, and
I've been separating the newer and older shades of Trans-Neon Orange. I've
looked at them all under a blacklight, and they ALL fluoresce. The older shade
fluoresces more brightly, but the newer redder ones definitely fluoresce as well.
Every. Single. One. Whereas Trans-Orange never fluoresces, ever.

With how much detail-work I've been doing with colors recently, I could probably
definitely identify which color they are from a high-quality non-blacklight picture
if you can obtain one.

Thanks for the information. we offered to either refund or credit the part to
the buyer.

Cool. Just wanted to add -- I've ordered multiple times from your store,
and I've been very happy every time. I think you're a quality seller,
and I'll recommend you any time. Rock on!
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In Colors, Brickitty writes:
  In Colors, CanadaFirst writes:
  Hi!

We sold some used trans-neon bricks 1x1 and the buyer is saying that they are
not trans-neon orange because they do not glow under black light.

Unless we're mistaken, the new trans-neon orange does not glow under black
light, are we wrong here? I remember the bricks as I listed them not too long
ago and I had compared the color to trans-neon orange we had from brand new sets
parted out and to some trans-orange again from parted out brand new lego sets
and the color was not trans-orange, it had the reddish tinge that the trans-neon
orange has but it's not 'milky' like the old trans-neon orange.

Are we mistaken? If we are we will correct our assumptions but we seem to recall
seeing a discussion about trans-neon orange but can't find it at the moment.

I think it's probably your mistake, for two reasons. First, 3005 1x1 bricks
have only been produced once in Trans-Neon Orange, in 2005 for set 7258, which
only had ONE copy. So the piece is very rare, whereas 3005 in Trans-Orange has
been in over 60 sets and is currently in production. Additionally, since 3005
in Trans-Neon Orange is only from 2005, which was before the transition to the
newer, redder Trans-Neon Orange color, it's very likely that the part only
exists in the older, milkier version of Trans-Neon Orange. If you think you found
redder ones, they're probably actually Trans-Orange, which also has an older/newer
shade difference with some looking more red than others.

Second, I've been cataloging 500,000 used parts over the last 6 months, and
I've been separating the newer and older shades of Trans-Neon Orange. I've
looked at them all under a blacklight, and they ALL fluoresce. The older shade
fluoresces more brightly, but the newer redder ones definitely fluoresce as well.
Every. Single. One. Whereas Trans-Orange never fluoresces, ever.

I posted recently that I found out some of my Trans-Orange candle flame parts
fluoresce under black light.
 
Part No: 37775  Name: Wave Rounded Straight Single with Small Pin End (Candle Flame)
* 
37775 Wave Rounded Straight Single with Small Pin End (Candle Flame)
Parts: Energy Effect
. This part is not supposed to exist
in Trans-Neon Orange.

  
With how much detail-work I've been doing with colors recently, I could probably
definitely identify which color they are from a high-quality non-blacklight picture
if you can obtain one.
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In Colors, pgremeau writes:
  In Colors, Brickitty writes:
  In Colors, CanadaFirst writes:
  Hi!

We sold some used trans-neon bricks 1x1 and the buyer is saying that they are
not trans-neon orange because they do not glow under black light.

Unless we're mistaken, the new trans-neon orange does not glow under black
light, are we wrong here? I remember the bricks as I listed them not too long
ago and I had compared the color to trans-neon orange we had from brand new sets
parted out and to some trans-orange again from parted out brand new lego sets
and the color was not trans-orange, it had the reddish tinge that the trans-neon
orange has but it's not 'milky' like the old trans-neon orange.

Are we mistaken? If we are we will correct our assumptions but we seem to recall
seeing a discussion about trans-neon orange but can't find it at the moment.

I think it's probably your mistake, for two reasons. First, 3005 1x1 bricks
have only been produced once in Trans-Neon Orange, in 2005 for set 7258, which
only had ONE copy. So the piece is very rare, whereas 3005 in Trans-Orange has
been in over 60 sets and is currently in production. Additionally, since 3005
in Trans-Neon Orange is only from 2005, which was before the transition to the
newer, redder Trans-Neon Orange color, it's very likely that the part only
exists in the older, milkier version of Trans-Neon Orange. If you think you found
redder ones, they're probably actually Trans-Orange, which also has an older/newer
shade difference with some looking more red than others.

Second, I've been cataloging 500,000 used parts over the last 6 months, and
I've been separating the newer and older shades of Trans-Neon Orange. I've
looked at them all under a blacklight, and they ALL fluoresce. The older shade
fluoresces more brightly, but the newer redder ones definitely fluoresce as well.
Every. Single. One. Whereas Trans-Orange never fluoresces, ever.

I posted recently that I found out some of my Trans-Orange candle flame parts
fluoresce under black light.
 
Part No: 37775  Name: Wave Rounded Straight Single with Small Pin End (Candle Flame)
* 
37775 Wave Rounded Straight Single with Small Pin End (Candle Flame)
Parts: Energy Effect
. This part is not supposed to exist
in Trans-Neon Orange.

Actually, after trying again, I would say they don't fluoresce like regular
Trans-Neon Orange parts, but they do react differently to the light (even though
it may look the same on the image).
  
  
With how much detail-work I've been doing with colors recently, I could probably
definitely identify which color they are from a high-quality non-blacklight picture
if you can obtain one.
 
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In Colors, pgremeau writes:
  Actually, after trying again, I would say they don't fluoresce like regular
Trans-Neon Orange parts, but they do react differently to the light (even though
it may look the same on the image).


Thanks for the pic! That's really interesting.
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In Colors, pgremeau writes:
  In Colors, Brickitty writes:
  In Colors, CanadaFirst writes:
  Hi!

We sold some used trans-neon bricks 1x1 and the buyer is saying that they are
not trans-neon orange because they do not glow under black light.

Unless we're mistaken, the new trans-neon orange does not glow under black
light, are we wrong here? I remember the bricks as I listed them not too long
ago and I had compared the color to trans-neon orange we had from brand new sets
parted out and to some trans-orange again from parted out brand new lego sets
and the color was not trans-orange, it had the reddish tinge that the trans-neon
orange has but it's not 'milky' like the old trans-neon orange.

Are we mistaken? If we are we will correct our assumptions but we seem to recall
seeing a discussion about trans-neon orange but can't find it at the moment.

I think it's probably your mistake, for two reasons. First, 3005 1x1 bricks
have only been produced once in Trans-Neon Orange, in 2005 for set 7258, which
only had ONE copy. So the piece is very rare, whereas 3005 in Trans-Orange has
been in over 60 sets and is currently in production. Additionally, since 3005
in Trans-Neon Orange is only from 2005, which was before the transition to the
newer, redder Trans-Neon Orange color, it's very likely that the part only
exists in the older, milkier version of Trans-Neon Orange. If you think you found
redder ones, they're probably actually Trans-Orange, which also has an older/newer
shade difference with some looking more red than others.

Second, I've been cataloging 500,000 used parts over the last 6 months, and
I've been separating the newer and older shades of Trans-Neon Orange. I've
looked at them all under a blacklight, and they ALL fluoresce. The older shade
fluoresces more brightly, but the newer redder ones definitely fluoresce as well.
Every. Single. One. Whereas Trans-Orange never fluoresces, ever.

I posted recently that I found out some of my Trans-Orange candle flame parts
fluoresce under black light.
 
Part No: 37775  Name: Wave Rounded Straight Single with Small Pin End (Candle Flame)
* 
37775 Wave Rounded Straight Single with Small Pin End (Candle Flame)
Parts: Energy Effect
. This part is not supposed to exist
in Trans-Neon Orange.

  
With how much detail-work I've been doing with colors recently, I could probably
definitely identify which color they are from a high-quality non-blacklight picture
if you can obtain one.

Weird! I'd be very interested in seeing a comparison picture of that part
next to Trans-Neon Orange parts under a blacklight. I've personally never
found a non-neon part that fluoresces, but I know they definitely exist, and
I've seen pictures of Old Dark Red fluorescing as well as comments from other
users on other colors.

On the flip side, though, I've never seen evidence of actual Neon parts NOT
fluorescing, and I'll remain skeptical without photo evidence of it.