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| | | Author: | Mirko8710  | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2021 15:10 | | Subject: | Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 142 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hi all!
I didn't find any question about that in the Forum, so, I'm asking.
Since Chip is a realt character as Ms Potts o Cogsworth are, why it is not considered
as a Minifigure instead of a normal Decorated Utensil?
Thank you and Happy New Year
[p=38014pb01]
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=38014pb01&idColor=1#T=P&C=1
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2021 15:20 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
I've a weak recollection of the determining factor being an 'assembly'
of parts, i.e more than one part? Could be remembering wrong, I'm sure we'll
both find out here soon.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2021 15:28 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
I've a weak recollection of the determining factor being an 'assembly'
of parts, i.e more than one part? Could be remembering wrong, I'm sure we'll
both find out here soon.
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It can't be that.
Probably just inconsistency.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2021 15:48 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
I've a weak recollection of the determining factor being an 'assembly'
of parts, i.e more than one part? Could be remembering wrong, I'm sure we'll
both find out here soon.
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It can't be that.
Probably just inconsistency.
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There you go!
Are there more examples, or is the Unikitty brick an anomaly?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2021 16:40 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
I've a weak recollection of the determining factor being an 'assembly'
of parts, i.e more than one part? Could be remembering wrong, I'm sure we'll
both find out here soon.
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It can't be that.
Probably just inconsistency.
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There you go!
Are there more examples, or is the Unikitty brick an anomaly?
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There are all the one piece Angry Birds style characters, although those are
more like Fabuland, Jack Stone, DUPLO, and so on one piece figs in that they
have some movement and they are not just a traditional part that has been printed.
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| | | | | Author: | bje | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2021 15:48 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
Also [p=3899pb006]
although I see Mrs Potts is now a minifigure
I don't think the debate around category definitions got finished, so probably
there are still issues with consistency.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Mirko8710 | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2021 09:04 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, bje writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
Also [p=3899pb006]
although I see Mrs Potts is now a minifigure
I don't think the debate around category definitions got finished, so probably
there are still issues with consistency.
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That's right. I think that probably all of these character should be considered
as minifigures. This is a fact that involve few themes (Disney and Disney Princess
in primis).
For example, I hope that this modifications will include also the animals like:
or
* | | 93088pb06 Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
Parts: Animal, Land |
or
* | | 15679pb01 Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Animal, Water
Marked for Deletion |
They are animals but since they are producted only to represents that specific
characters they need to be considered minifigures.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2021 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, bje writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
Also [p=3899pb006]
although I see Mrs Potts is now a minifigure
I don't think the debate around category definitions got finished, so probably
there are still issues with consistency.
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That's right. I think that probably all of these character should be considered
as minifigures. This is a fact that involve few themes (Disney and Disney Princess
in primis).
For example, I hope that this modifications will include also the animals like:
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or
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* | | 93088pb06 Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
Parts: Animal, Land |
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or
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* | | 15679pb01 Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Animal, Water
Marked for Deletion |
They are animals but since they are producted only to represents that specific
characters they need to be considered minifigures.
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That could well get confusing given LEGO in-house animals are starting to get
names too, and are therefore defined characters.
Although ...
I've never really understood the difference between him and Scooby Doo when
it comes to cataloguing.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Classicsmiley | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2021 14:04 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, bje writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
Also [p=3899pb006]
although I see Mrs Potts is now a minifigure
I don't think the debate around category definitions got finished, so probably
there are still issues with consistency.
|
That's right. I think that probably all of these character should be considered
as minifigures. This is a fact that involve few themes (Disney and Disney Princess
in primis).
For example, I hope that this modifications will include also the animals like:
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or
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* | | 93088pb06 Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
Parts: Animal, Land |
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or
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* | | 15679pb01 Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Animal, Water
Marked for Deletion |
They are animals but since they are producted only to represents that specific
characters they need to be considered minifigures.
|
That could well get confusing given LEGO in-house animals are starting to get
names too, and are therefore defined characters.
Although ...
I've never really understood the difference between him and Scooby Doo when
it comes to cataloguing.
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Given Season 2 of the Mandalorian, the Kowakian monkey-lizard should be classified
as food...
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Mirko8710 | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2021 15:12 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| That could well get confusing given LEGO in-house animals are starting to get
| | names too, and are therefore defined characters.
Although ...
I've never really understood the difference between him and Scooby Doo when
it comes to cataloguing.
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True, but if I would collect Friends Mini-Dolls and their specific animals I
would like to have them with the Mini-Dolls (minifigures) or in a specific sub-category
of the theme.
Obviously it should be a decision make time by time...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2021 15:37 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
| | That could well get confusing given LEGO in-house animals are starting to get
| | names too, and are therefore defined characters.
Although ...
I've never really understood the difference between him and Scooby Doo when
it comes to cataloguing.
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True, but if I would collect Friends Mini-Dolls and their specific animals I
would like to have them with the Mini-Dolls (minifigures) or in a specific sub-category
of the theme.
Obviously it should be a decision make time by time...
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If you have an unknown animal you then possibly need to look through both the
animal and the minifig sections to identify it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2021 05:37 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? [REQUEST?] | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, bje writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
Also [p=3899pb006]
although I see Mrs Potts is now a minifigure
I don't think the debate around category definitions got finished, so probably
there are still issues with consistency.
|
That's right. I think that probably all of these character should be considered
as minifigures. This is a fact that involve few themes (Disney and Disney Princess
in primis).
For example, I hope that this modifications will include also the animals like:
|
or
| |
* | | 93088pb06 Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
Parts: Animal, Land |
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or
| |
* | | 15679pb01 Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Animal, Water
Marked for Deletion |
They are animals but since they are producted only to represents that specific
characters they need to be considered minifigures.
|
That could well get confusing given LEGO in-house animals are starting to get
names too, and are therefore defined characters.
Although ...
I've never really understood the difference between him and Scooby Doo when
it comes to cataloguing.
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What would happen if we move all:
Animal, Air (99)
Animal, Dinosaur (66)
Animal, Land (394)
Animal, Water (69)
To Minifigures? Most are figures per se...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2021 05:41 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? [REQUEST?] | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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What would happen if we move all:
Animal, Air (99)
Animal, Dinosaur (66)
Animal, Land (394)
Animal, Water (69)
To Minifigures? Most are figures per se...
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Unless they are kept in an "animals, air" and so on category within minifigures,
then I think they become harder to find if they get mixed in with regular minifigs.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2021 06:29 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? [REQUEST?] | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
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What would happen if we move all:
Animal, Air (99)
Animal, Dinosaur (66)
Animal, Land (394)
Animal, Water (69)
To Minifigures? Most are figures per se...
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Unless they are kept in an "animals, air" and so on category within minifigures,
then I think they become harder to find if they get mixed in with regular minifigs.
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Yeah, I mean with the same category name.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | novabrick | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2021 05:26 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Mirko8710 writes:
| | For example, I hope that this modifications will include also the animals like:
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or
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* | | 93088pb06 Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
Parts: Animal, Land |
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or
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* | | 15679pb01 Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Animal, Water
Marked for Deletion |
They are animals but since they are producted only to represents that specific
characters they need to be considered minifigures.
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hmmm... i spend ages finding this bat
But it is a minifig... It's all very confusing
Christian
novabrick-team
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2021 05:34 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, novabrick writes:
| | In Catalog, Mirko8710 writes:
| | For example, I hope that this modifications will include also the animals like:
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or
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* | | 93088pb06 Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
Parts: Animal, Land |
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or
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* | | 15679pb01 Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Animal, Water
Marked for Deletion |
They are animals but since they are producted only to represents that specific
characters they need to be considered minifigures.
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hmmm... i spend ages finding this bat
But it is a minifig... It's all very confusing
Christian
novabrick-team
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Yes, it is not helpful when the animal species is not included and only the name
us used. In that case, you need to know the name to search for it.
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2021 06:16 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Mirko8710 writes:
| | Since Chip is a realt character as Ms Potts o Cogsworth are, why it is not considered
as a Minifigure instead of a normal Decorated Utensil?
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Two reasons:
1. Inconsistency within the catalog due to disagreements and the hierarchical
cataloging system.
2. Indecision about the issue due to a number of different factors.
We've got a lengthy list of issues to work on and it may be some time before
this specific issue is addressed.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Mirko8710 | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2021 04:58 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Mirko8710 writes:
| | Since Chip is a realt character as Ms Potts o Cogsworth are, why it is not considered
as a Minifigure instead of a normal Decorated Utensil?
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Two reasons:
1. Inconsistency within the catalog due to disagreements and the hierarchical
cataloging system.
2. Indecision about the issue due to a number of different factors.
We've got a lengthy list of issues to work on and it may be some time before
this specific issue is addressed.
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Ok, thank you for your attention!
Mirko
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| | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2021 07:43 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2021 07:54 | | Subject: | Re: Why 38014pb01 is not a Minifigure? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Mirko8710 writes:
I recall that this was one of the reasons that there was talk about changing
the minifigure category to 'Figure' or 'Character' as to use
the term minifgure to describe this along with so many other parts I'm sure
seems very odd to most.
I made a previous suggestion here:-
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1192727
but as you can imagine it’s an absolute minefield and everyone has completely
different ideas of what would work for the best and then of course there are
certain category limitations or so I'm told?
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