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 Author: foolinthemiddle View Messages Posted By foolinthemiddle
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 Subject: Incomplete Minifigures?
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I understand the desire to eliminate the incomplete minifigures from the listings.
But is there any chance that actual "minifigure" listings could come without
all the accessories?

For example sw0824 has 3 actual minifigure parts, and a 14 piece backpack. Wouldn't
the acutal minifigure end at the 3 actual minifigure parts, and not include the
random bricks?
 Author: novabrick View Messages Posted By novabrick
 Posted: Oct 22, 2020 07:18
 Subject: Re: Incomplete Minifigures?
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In Suggestions, steamingpile writes:
  I understand the desire to eliminate the incomplete minifigures from the listings.
But is there any chance that actual "minifigure" listings could come without
all the accessories?

For example sw0824 has 3 actual minifigure parts, and a 14 piece backpack. Wouldn't
the acutal minifigure end at the 3 actual minifigure parts, and not include the
random bricks?

Take
 
Minifig No: sw0106  Name: Luke Skywalker (Dagobah, Sand Green Tank Top, Backpack)
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sw0106 (Inv) Luke Skywalker (Dagobah, Sand Green Tank Top, Backpack)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6
 
Minifig No: sw0106a  Name: Luke Skywalker
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sw0106a Luke Skywalker
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6
Marked for Deletion
The later is marked for deletion since it's missing the backpack.
The figures are only listed as how they appear in the set instuctions. There
shouldn't be made any exceptons. This has probably already been discussed
anyway.

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 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Oct 22, 2020 07:44
 Subject: Re: Incomplete Minifigures?
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In Suggestions, steamingpile writes:
  I understand the desire to eliminate the incomplete minifigures from the listings.
But is there any chance that actual "minifigure" listings could come without
all the accessories?

For example sw0824 has 3 actual minifigure parts, and a 14 piece backpack. Wouldn't
the acutal minifigure end at the 3 actual minifigure parts, and not include the
random bricks?

Then you would need subsets or counterparts for minifigures in set inventories.
Which conceivably might be a good idea, but it will not happen since that would
probably require the ever elusive resources.

The case of
 
Minifig No: mba002  Name: MBA Level Two Minifigure
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mba002 (Inv) MBA Level Two Minifigure
Minifigures: Master Builder Academy
springs to mind - the minifgure (head, torso and legs
assemblies) used in three sets with three different sets of headgear but only
one minifigure assembly with the headgear in the first set is recognised in the
catalogue. Presumably there is a market for the other two sets' minifigures
included in the instructions for those sets, but until such time as these can
reasonably be accommodated in set inventories as alternate minifigures or counterparts,
it is doubtful that such a market can be explored by sellers as a reasonable
alternative.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Oct 22, 2020 08:28
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In Suggestions, bje writes:
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Minifig No: mba002  Name: MBA Level Two Minifigure
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mba002 (Inv) MBA Level Two Minifigure
Minifigures: Master Builder Academy

Aaaahhh my eyes!  A minifigure in their undies with a big tatoo on the torso
and a helmet!
 Author: novabrick View Messages Posted By novabrick
 Posted: Oct 22, 2020 09:00
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:

  Aaaahhh my eyes!  A minifigure in their undies with a big tatoo on the torso
and a helmet!

uhm...
 
Minifig No: sp007  Name: Classic Space - Yellow with Air Tanks
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sp007 (Inv) Classic Space - Yellow with Air Tanks
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space

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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Suggestions, novabrick writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:

  Aaaahhh my eyes!  A minifigure in their undies with a big tatoo on the torso
and a helmet!

uhm...
 
Minifig No: sp007  Name: Classic Space - Yellow with Air Tanks
* 
sp007 (Inv) Classic Space - Yellow with Air Tanks
Minifigures: Space: Classic Space

Nope, not the same effect: no white undies and the helmet is also yellow, making
it a whole Yellow suit.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Suggestions, steamingpile writes:
  I understand the desire to eliminate the incomplete minifigures from the listings.
But is there any chance that actual "minifigure" listings could come without
all the accessories?

For example sw0824 has 3 actual minifigure parts, and a 14 piece backpack. Wouldn't
the acutal minifigure end at the 3 actual minifigure parts, and not include the
random bricks?

If I were the king, we would make a category for Brick Built Minifigure Accessories
that would include backpacks and weapons that are official builds. Then the
minifigure listings would lose all backpacks and minifigs that come with a hat
and a hair option would have both in the inventory. A BUNCH of Chima minifigs
would disappear.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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   .. and minifigs that come with a hat
and a hair option would have both in the inventory.

That would be tough for used minifigures, since they would need to come with
both to be sold as the minifigure. Whereas built used figures in used lots normally
come with one (or zero) but rarely both.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, steamingpile writes:
  I understand the desire to eliminate the incomplete minifigures from the listings.
But is there any chance that actual "minifigure" listings could come without
all the accessories?

For example sw0824 has 3 actual minifigure parts, and a 14 piece backpack. Wouldn't
the acutal minifigure end at the 3 actual minifigure parts, and not include the
random bricks?

If I were the king, we would make a category for Brick Built Minifigure Accessories
that would include backpacks and weapons that are official builds. Then the
minifigure listings would lose all backpacks and minifigs that come with a hat
and a hair option would have both in the inventory. A BUNCH of Chima minifigs
would disappear.

I agree that some re-thinking should be considered as if we’re going to say that
multi-part backpacks and capes are an essential part of a minifigure build then
why stop at just those parts because if we’re saying we want minifigs to appear
exactly as they appear in the instructions then I agree that minifigs should
also include satchels, sword holders, weapons and accessories too?

The only obstacle I can see is where you have for example Indiana Jones iaj001
which appears in 12 sets and the accessories given by each set may vary from
including the whip, satchel and pistol to perhaps not including one of those
parts or perhaps even coming with him wearing handcuffs instead?

However logic says that you don’t accessorise and photo him wearing handcuffs
you simply accessorise him with the most common accessories for that minifig.
If the first uploader accessorises and photos him with satchel, whip, and pistol
then those should then become the MUST include parts for that minifigure or even
if the first photo uploader doesn’t include the pistol that may still seem a
valid upload to go with, On the other hand if someone photos and uploads without
the satchel or whip then someone may request to revise the photo to include what
they consider a vital component to the overall look of Indiana Jones so that
it does include these elements

I know it’s not a perfect solution but then does it really need to be? As long
as the photo includes the more relevant parts associated with the minifig in
question and buyers can see what they will get I think this is more helpful to
buyers than leaving them having to hunt around looking for a satchel or lightsaber
hilt?
When I first arrived here I found it strange that none of the minifigure photos
showed accessories and I really didn’t know what to expect would be included
either?

I think it’s fair to say that I think minifgs should either be properly fully
accessorised or listed barebone which for Indiana Jones would be just the hat,
head, torso and legs. Obviously not all minifigs are as simple as this so what
constitutes barebone would need careful consideration but minifigures are a huge
part of the market on Bricklink and so I feel having options would be of greater
benefit to the platform, in fact it would be nice if there were two options for
most minifigs for example iaj001 could be a fully accessorised Indiana Jones
with iaj001b (The ‘b’ representing the fact that the minifig is bare bone with
just the main minifig components head legs torso etc..