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 Author: Iliketurtles1 View Messages Posted By Iliketurtles1
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 08:49
 Subject: Identification number 1
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Iliketurtles1 (3)

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Is there a piece with the identification number one if not what is the lowest
identification number?
 Author: Mr_Rofl View Messages Posted By Mr_Rofl
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 09:21
 Subject: Re: Identification number 1
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In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
  Is there a piece with the identification number one if not what is the lowest
identification number?

Nice to play with the numbers and learning myself something in the process.

On top of my head I knew

 
Part No: 8 Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* 		8 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
existed, but playing with it. Number 1 also does exist.

 
Part No: 1 Name: Homemaker Bookcase 2 x 4 x 4
* 		1 Homemaker Bookcase 2 x 4 x 4
Parts: Homemaker
 
Part No: 2 Name: Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4
* 		2 Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4
Parts: Homemaker
 
Part No: 3 Name: Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4 Drawer
* 		3 Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4 Drawer
Parts: Homemaker
[p=4]
 
Part No: 5 Name: Ladder Holder for Ladder 16 x 4 with Semi-Circular Pivot
* 		5 Ladder Holder for Ladder 16 x 4 with Semi-Circular Pivot
Parts: Ladder
[p=6]
[p=7]
 
Part No: 8 Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* 		8 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
[p=9]
[p=10]
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 09:43
 Subject: Re: Identification number 1
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In Catalog, Mr_Rofl writes:
  In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
  Is there a piece with the identification number one if not what is the lowest
identification number?

Nice to play with the numbers and learning myself something in the process.

On top of my head I knew

 
Part No: 8 Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* 		8 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
existed, but playing with it. Number 1 also does exist.

 
Part No: 1 Name: Homemaker Bookcase 2 x 4 x 4
* 		1 Homemaker Bookcase 2 x 4 x 4
Parts: Homemaker
 
Part No: 2 Name: Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4
* 		2 Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4
Parts: Homemaker
 
Part No: 3 Name: Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4 Drawer
* 		3 Homemaker Cupboard 4 x 4 x 4 Drawer
Parts: Homemaker
[p=4]
 
Part No: 5 Name: Ladder Holder for Ladder 16 x 4 with Semi-Circular Pivot
* 		5 Ladder Holder for Ladder 16 x 4 with Semi-Circular Pivot
Parts: Ladder
[p=6]
[p=7]
 
Part No: 8 Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
* 		8 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheel Holder Bottom
Parts: Plate, Modified
[p=9]
[p=10]

Now maybe we should question if those are really Design IDs or just mold numbers...
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 22:10
 Subject: Re: Identification number 1
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StormChaser (566)

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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  Now maybe we should question if those are really Design IDs or just mold numbers...

I don't know this for certain, but I strongly suspect someone pre-BrickLink
(LDraw? Peeron?) just went through and started numbering things without regard
to actual part numbers. BrickLink simply copied those item numbers from whomever
did the original numbering.

Search for all parts and order them by item number, up. It should become evident
that these are numbers somewhat randomly assigned to parts by fans prior to BrickLink's
use of bb* numbers.

On item numbers, BTW, we got shut down pretty quickly when we suggested introducing
order to the chaos of BL's literally hundreds of discrete systems of item
numbering. For example, here's something I posted privately regarding the
numbering of figures:

  I count 68 distinct numbering systems as follows:

1-Digit Letter + Number + 2-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
x4cx01

1-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
x30

1-Digit Torso Letter + 3-Digit Number
s003

2-Digit Generic Identifier + 4-Digit Number
bb0001

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
sc072

2-Digit Theme, Capitalized + 3-Digit Number
CL001

2-Digit Theme, Capitalized + 3-Digit Number + Letter
WC016s

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
dp029s

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 2-Digit Letter
sp085sb

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
pi013new

2-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter + Number
sp001new2

2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Number
sw0522

2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Number + Letter
sw0001d

2-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Set Number
cc4066

2-Digit Theme, One Number, One Letter + 3-Digit Number
4j001

2-Digit Theme, One Number, One Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
4j003a

3-Digit Time Period + 3-Digit Number
old021

3-Digit Time Period + 3-Digit Number + Letter
old046s

3-Digit Theme + Number + Letter
fab1a

3-Digit Theme, Capitalized + Number + Letter
Fab3e

3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number + Letter
fab10a

3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
colsh13

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Letter Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
scaFemA02

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Item Type + 3-Digit Number
dupfig001

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Item Type + 3-Digit Number + Letter
dupfig001r

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
tlm139

3-Digit Theme, All Caps + 3-Digit Number
LLP002

3-Digit Theme, All Caps + 3-Digit Number + Letter
LLP003a

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
agt020a

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + Number
rac036s2

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + 2-Digit Number
pln102s01

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 2-Digit Letter
cas046cm

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
cas050new

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter Capitalized
fab001BHP

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter + 2-Digit Number
bat011c01

3-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
coluni01

3-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
coltlbm01

3-Digit Theme + 7-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
dupmermaid01

3-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
hor019

4-Digit Name
pooh

4-Digit Part Number
5473

4-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number
4555pb135

4-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
4555pb142a

4-Digit Theme + 2-Digit Number
clik01

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number
uagt004

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + Letter
fire005s

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Number + 3-Digit Letter
post001new

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Number
belvFem2

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + Number + Letter
belvFem4a

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
belvFem10

4-Digit Theme + 3-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number + Letter
belvfem10a

4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + Number
belvBaby1

4-Digit Theme, Capitalization Reversed + 4-Digit Descriptor + Number + Letter
Belvbaby2a

4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number
belvFair02

4-Digit Theme + 4-Digit Descriptor + 2-Digit Number + Letter
belvFair01a

4-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
jred010

4-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number + Letter
jred024s

5-Digit Part Number
23048

5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter
23047b

5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter + 1-Digit Number
51991e1

5-Digit Part Number + 1-Digit Letter + 2-Digit Number
45219c01

5-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number
47205pb001

5-Digit Part Number + 2-Digit Letter + 3-Digit Number + Letter
47394pb018b

5-Digit Torso Identifier + 3-Digit Number
ncklc008

5-Digit Unknown Letters + 3-Digit Number
airdg001

6-Digit Name
Eeyore

6-Digit Name + 3-Digit Descriptor
Eeyorenew

6-Digit Torso Identifier
redsox
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 16, 2020 22:18
 Subject: Re: Identification number 1
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  the chaos of BL's literally hundreds of discrete systems of item
numbering.

Here's another message I posted regarding the use of letters in part numbers:


Letter C Used to Describe an Assembly
 
Part No: 69c02 Name: Tap 1 x 2 Base with Chrome Silver Spout (69 / 70)
* 		69c02 (Inv) Tap 1 x 2 Base with Chrome Silver Spout (69 / 70)
Parts: Tap

Letter C and "assy" Used to Describe Two Assemblies
 
Part No: 122c01assy3 Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Red Wheels with Black Tires 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium (122c01/ 4084)
* 		122c01assy3 (Inv) Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Red Wheels with Black Tires 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium (122c01/ 4084)
Parts: Wheel & Tire Assembly

Letter C Used as Part of Abbreviation for Classic
 
Part No: 823cl Name: Garage Door Solid with Fixed Counterweights - Classic
* 		823cl Garage Door Solid with Fixed Counterweights - Classic
Parts: Classic

Letter C Used to Describe a Hose
 
Part No: 78c32 Name: Hose, Ribbed 7mm D. 32L / 25.6cm
* 		78c32 Hose, Ribbed 7mm D. 32L / 25.6cm
Parts: Hose, Ribbed 7mm D.

Letter C Used to Describe a Multipack Part
 
Part No: 93080c Name: Friends Accessories Hair Dryer
* 		93080c Friends Accessories Hair Dryer
Parts: Friends

Letter C Used to Describe a Variant
 
Part No: 2609c Name: Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Shallow Notch
* 		2609c Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Shallow Notch
Parts: Magnet

But it all seems to make perfect sense to the site itself, of course.