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 Author: BHamBricks View Messages Posted By BHamBricks
 Posted: May 25, 2020 19:50
 Subject: Comments during instant Checkout
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BHamBricks (1175)

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I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: May 25, 2020 21:05
 Subject: Re: Comments during instant Checkout
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jennnifer (3531)

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In Suggestions, BHamBricks writes:
  I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.

Please excuse my ignorance, but where are comments left during Instant Checkout
viewable to sellers? I am wary of this system still and info like this makes
me even more uncertain.

thanks!
Jen
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: May 25, 2020 21:21
 Subject: Re: Comments during instant Checkout
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I have never seen a feedback, as long as, your most recent neutral. I thought
we were limited to 80 or so characters?

In Suggestions, BHamBricks writes:
  I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: May 25, 2020 22:11
 Subject: Re: Comments during instant Checkout
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jennnifer (3531)

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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  I have never seen a feedback, as long as, your most recent neutral. I thought
we were limited to 80 or so characters?


Wow! You can write a whole novel apparently. I just tried and was still limited
to 80. Maybe it was edited?

Jen
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: May 25, 2020 22:18
 Subject: Re: Comments during instant Checkout
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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  I have never seen a feedback, as long as, your most recent neutral. I thought
we were limited to 80 or so characters?

Yeah, what's up with that? I thought all feedback (positive, negative and
neutral) had the same character length limit.

David
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
 Posted: May 25, 2020 22:14
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In Suggestions, BHamBricks writes:
  I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.

Two neutral feedbacks within a week of each other?! You poor soul.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: May 26, 2020 01:30
 Subject: Re: Comments during instant Checkout
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In Suggestions, BHamBricks writes:
  I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.

In the order confirmation email under the shipping method is a 'Comments
from Buyer:' section. Below it are the items of the order.

The Comments from Buyer are also visible below the items on the orders details
page.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: May 26, 2020 03:49
 Subject: Re: Comments during instant Checkout
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Teup (6591)

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In Suggestions, BHamBricks writes:
  I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.

Did you put the BUYERCOMMENTS in your template? Then it should work.

Not even sure how you managed to have a different invoice for IC than for manual?
I wish there was a INSTANTCHECKOUT-EQ conditional macro tag to handle that, but
there isn't...
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: May 26, 2020 04:00
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, BHamBricks writes:
  I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.

Did you put the BUYERCOMMENTS in your template? Then it should work.

Not even sure how you managed to have a different invoice for IC than for manual?
I wish there was a INSTANTCHECKOUT-EQ conditional macro tag to handle that, but
there isn't...

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/message_templates.page

The one you want to edit is "Purchase Confirmation", that is supposedly an invoice
you issue for instant checkout. I am thinking of adding some lines to that so
it can serve as a sort of an invoice and a receipt in one, or well, just something
better than basically telling the buyer he has ordered a thing from somewhere
with not even a thank you for the payment and no terms.

You of course cannot edit the header and call the thing an invoice, grrr
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: May 26, 2020 05:02
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Teup (6591)

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In Suggestions, bje writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, BHamBricks writes:
  I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.

Did you put the BUYERCOMMENTS in your template? Then it should work.

Not even sure how you managed to have a different invoice for IC than for manual?
I wish there was a INSTANTCHECKOUT-EQ conditional macro tag to handle that, but
there isn't...

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/message_templates.page

The one you want to edit is "Purchase Confirmation", that is supposedly an invoice
you issue for instant checkout. I am thinking of adding some lines to that so
it can serve as a sort of an invoice and a receipt in one, or well, just something
better than basically telling the buyer he has ordered a thing from somewhere
with not even a thank you for the payment and no terms.

You of course cannot edit the header and call the thing an invoice, grrr

Ah I forgot, in the case of onsite payment, instant checkout does not trigger
an invoice, right? This is always a bit confusing because the invoice does show
up as checked, indicating that an invoice was sent.

Anyway the purchase confirmation is not an invoice as it's neither a payment
instruction (pro forma invoice) nor a valid receipt. You always need to get an
order confirmation first (in the EU it gives you rights to the items, provided
that the seller can deliver). Also, changing it to "invoice" would cause the
buyer to receive two "invoices" if they are not paying onsite.
 Author: paulvdb View Messages Posted By paulvdb
 Posted: May 26, 2020 05:29
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, BHamBricks writes:
  I recently decided to add instant checkout to my store. I received my first
ever neutral feedback because I didn't include a note as requested in the
buyer's comment section. My suggestion is to add the buyer's comments
section on the sellers invoice (like it always has been on the invoice when an
invoice was requested). There is no buyer's comments section on the email
I receive notifying me that an order has been placed. In this instance, this
caused an unpleasant experience for the buyer.

Did you put the BUYERCOMMENTS in your template? Then it should work.

Not even sure how you managed to have a different invoice for IC than for manual?
I wish there was a INSTANTCHECKOUT-EQ conditional macro tag to handle that, but
there isn't...

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/mystore/message_templates.page

The one you want to edit is "Purchase Confirmation", that is supposedly an invoice
you issue for instant checkout. I am thinking of adding some lines to that so
it can serve as a sort of an invoice and a receipt in one, or well, just something
better than basically telling the buyer he has ordered a thing from somewhere
with not even a thank you for the payment and no terms.

You of course cannot edit the header and call the thing an invoice, grrr

Ah I forgot, in the case of onsite payment, instant checkout does not trigger
an invoice, right? This is always a bit confusing because the invoice does show
up as checked, indicating that an invoice was sent.

Anyway the purchase confirmation is not an invoice as it's neither a payment
instruction (pro forma invoice) nor a valid receipt. You always need to get an
order confirmation first (in the EU it gives you rights to the items, provided
that the seller can deliver). Also, changing it to "invoice" would cause the
buyer to receive two "invoices" if they are not paying onsite.

That is not correct. There are three message templates related to orders being
placed. Purchase confirmation is used when the buyer pays at instant checkout.
Order Notification and Order invoice are sent if the buyer does not pay at checkout.
For example if they choose a shipping method and/or payment method that can't
pay at checkout.
 Author: paulvdb View Messages Posted By paulvdb
 Posted: May 26, 2020 05:36
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In Suggestions, paulvdb writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  Ah I forgot, in the case of onsite payment, instant checkout does not trigger
an invoice, right? This is always a bit confusing because the invoice does show
up as checked, indicating that an invoice was sent.

Anyway the purchase confirmation is not an invoice as it's neither a payment
instruction (pro forma invoice) nor a valid receipt. You always need to get an
order confirmation first (in the EU it gives you rights to the items, provided
that the seller can deliver). Also, changing it to "invoice" would cause the
buyer to receive two "invoices" if they are not paying onsite.

That is not correct. There are three message templates related to orders being
placed. Purchase confirmation is used when the buyer pays at instant checkout.
Order Notification and Order invoice are sent if the buyer does not pay at checkout.
For example if they choose a shipping method and/or payment method that can't
pay at checkout.

Further information on this: the order invoice is sent immediately when the order
is placed if the shipping method qualifies for instant checkout but the buyer
selects a payment method that does not qualify for instant checkout.

The seller has to manually send the invoice if the buyer selects a shipping method
that does not qualify for instant checkout.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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Teup (6591)

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In Suggestions, paulvdb writes:
  In Suggestions, paulvdb writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  Ah I forgot, in the case of onsite payment, instant checkout does not trigger
an invoice, right? This is always a bit confusing because the invoice does show
up as checked, indicating that an invoice was sent.

Anyway the purchase confirmation is not an invoice as it's neither a payment
instruction (pro forma invoice) nor a valid receipt. You always need to get an
order confirmation first (in the EU it gives you rights to the items, provided
that the seller can deliver). Also, changing it to "invoice" would cause the
buyer to receive two "invoices" if they are not paying onsite.

That is not correct. There are three message templates related to orders being
placed. Purchase confirmation is used when the buyer pays at instant checkout.
Order Notification and Order invoice are sent if the buyer does not pay at checkout.
For example if they choose a shipping method and/or payment method that can't
pay at checkout.

Further information on this: the order invoice is sent immediately when the order
is placed if the shipping method qualifies for instant checkout but the buyer
selects a payment method that does not qualify for instant checkout.

The seller has to manually send the invoice if the buyer selects a shipping method
that does not qualify for instant checkout.

Ooooh I see. I had no idea there were three. I think now I get it, and I see
why someone could want to make the purchase notification an invoice.

OK, so, the OP probably has in their Order Notification message the BUYERSCOMMENTS
macro tag. Now, it has to also be in the Purchase Confirmation message. The help
section shows that this macro tag is available to both:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=661

So, go to: My Store - Settings - Message Templates. Then, click "edit" on the
Order Notification message (sent for non-instant checkout purchases), look what
you have in there that you would like to have in the other one, copy it, then
click "edit" on the Purchase Confirmation and paste in there whatever was missing.
This should fix it.



By the way, I see that Bricklink's descriptions are a bit off and need improvement

"Purchase Confirmation: Sent to a buyer who made a purchase with Instant Checkout"

Not true, only when it is paid onsite. Otherwise it is not sent.

"Order Invoice: Sent to a buyer who you issued an invoice to"

...or sent instantly by Instant Checkout, unless the order is paid onsite.
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  

By the way, I see that Bricklink's descriptions are a bit off and need improvement

"Purchase Confirmation: Sent to a buyer who made a purchase with Instant Checkout"

Not true, only when it is paid onsite. Otherwise it is not sent.

"Order Invoice: Sent to a buyer who you issued an invoice to"

...or sent instantly by Instant Checkout, unless the order is paid onsite.

I reported the typo and the poor grammar on that page to BrickLink for 6 months
before I gave up. Even rewrote the whole thing correctly for them. No one was
interested.

Jen
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In Suggestions, paulvdb writes:
  In Suggestions, paulvdb writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  Ah I forgot, in the case of onsite payment, instant checkout does not trigger
an invoice, right? This is always a bit confusing because the invoice does show
up as checked, indicating that an invoice was sent.

Anyway the purchase confirmation is not an invoice as it's neither a payment
instruction (pro forma invoice) nor a valid receipt. You always need to get an
order confirmation first (in the EU it gives you rights to the items, provided
that the seller can deliver). Also, changing it to "invoice" would cause the
buyer to receive two "invoices" if they are not paying onsite.

That is not correct. There are three message templates related to orders being
placed. Purchase confirmation is used when the buyer pays at instant checkout.
Order Notification and Order invoice are sent if the buyer does not pay at checkout.
For example if they choose a shipping method and/or payment method that can't
pay at checkout.

Further information on this: the order invoice is sent immediately when the order
is placed if the shipping method qualifies for instant checkout but the buyer
selects a payment method that does not qualify for instant checkout.

And that uses the same template as the manual invoice, but you can set it up
for different payment methods. So you can make a conditional "invoice" for IBAN
(EQ:18), PayPal (EQ:11), Bank Transfer(EQ:16) and any other offsite payment method
that is available, but with very odd spacing.

  
The seller has to manually send the invoice if the buyer selects a shipping method
that does not qualify for instant checkout.