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 Author: velocity.rex View Messages Posted By velocity.rex
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 Subject: Keffiyeh vs Turban
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I get a little annoyed every time I encounter this piece.
 
Part No: 88287  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
* 
88287 Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

It's always the same cycle, I search "turban" because it's very similar
to a turban.
and all that pops up are these;
 
Part No: 40235  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
* 
40235 Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
&
 
Part No: 18822  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
* 
18822 Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

So then I remember that the piece I'm looking for is on a few of the Prince
of Persia minifigs so I go to catalog, minifigs, prince of persia, and then scroll
until I find one with the matching headgear, and then drill down into it's
inventory to find that it's called a "Keffiyeh"

to which my response is, "oh, well, I'll probably never remember that..."

I wish the description was "Headgear Headdress Cloth Wrap Keffiyeh (Turban)"
even if it's not technically a turban. It would help me find it faster in
the future.

At any rate, taking the time to type this all out should help me remember in
the future and I discovered that one only has to type "kef*" in the headgear
search and this pops up so I should be able to remember those 3 letters at least
going forward.

Took me awhile to remember "kepi" for this part too, but I remembered eventually.
 
Part No: 30135  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
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30135 Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Apr 8, 2019 11:24
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You want to try and remember bicorne - usually I have to search through pirates
minifigs to get that %^^$%@ name. You might want to bookmark this page. It at
least gives the starting point names of some hat/headdress styles with images,
since I can never remember any of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat



In Catalog, velocity.rex writes:
  I get a little annoyed every time I encounter this piece.
 
Part No: 88287  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
* 
88287 Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

It's always the same cycle, I search "turban" because it's very similar
to a turban.
and all that pops up are these;
 
Part No: 40235  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
* 
40235 Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
&
 
Part No: 18822  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
* 
18822 Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

So then I remember that the piece I'm looking for is on a few of the Prince
of Persia minifigs so I go to catalog, minifigs, prince of persia, and then scroll
until I find one with the matching headgear, and then drill down into it's
inventory to find that it's called a "Keffiyeh"

to which my response is, "oh, well, I'll probably never remember that..."

I wish the description was "Headgear Headdress Cloth Wrap Keffiyeh (Turban)"
even if it's not technically a turban. It would help me find it faster in
the future.

At any rate, taking the time to type this all out should help me remember in
the future and I discovered that one only has to type "kef*" in the headgear
search and this pops up so I should be able to remember those 3 letters at least
going forward.

Took me awhile to remember "kepi" for this part too, but I remembered eventually.
 
Part No: 30135  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
* 
30135 Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 8, 2019 11:56
 Subject: Re: Keffiyeh vs Turban
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In Catalog, bje writes:
  You want to try and remember bicorne - usually I have to search through pirates
minifigs to get that %^^$%@ name.

I’ll excuse your French as it so happens that “%^^$%@” could indeed be replaced
by “French”.

Bicorne = two horns
There are tricorne hats too (three horns).

   You might want to bookmark this page. It at
least gives the starting point names of some hat/headdress styles with images,
since I can never remember any of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat

You’ll note that on that page, keffiyeh is spelled keffiyah.
(While the wiktionary lists kaffiyah, kufiya, and kufiyah as alternative spellings,
but not keffiyah.)

Finding it through Prince of Persia minifigures might be quicker than searching
the wikipedia page then trying all the possible spellings
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Apr 8, 2019 12:18
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, bje writes:
  You want to try and remember bicorne - usually I have to search through pirates
minifigs to get that %^^$%@ name.

I’ll excuse your French as it so happens that “%^^$%@” could indeed be replaced
by “French”.

That will not do as my French writing is already limited to some swear words,
cooking terms from Larousse and a bit here and there from a few novels. Wish
I could read Proust, Balzac, Littel and few others in original French.
  
Bicorne = two horns
There are tricorne hats too (three horns).

Horny hats will be even more difficult to remember, it is not a concept I usually
associate with hats or caps.

  
   You might want to bookmark this page. It at
least gives the starting point names of some hat/headdress styles with images,
since I can never remember any of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat

You’ll note that on that page, keffiyeh is spelled keffiyah.
(While the wiktionary lists kaffiyah, kufiya, and kufiyah as alternative spellings,
but not keffiyah.)

Finding it through Prince of Persia minifigures might be quicker than searching
the wikipedia page then trying all the possible spellings
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, bje writes:
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Wish
I could read Proust, Balzac, Littel and few others in original French.

Me too

(I lack the courage.)


  
  Bicorne = two horns
There are tricorne hats too (three horns).

Horny hats will be even more difficult to remember, it is not a concept I usually
associate with hats or caps.

Well, I’m sure there’s peacockery somewhere (bad, bad pun) but “corne” is a common
term in French for angled/folded —wait for it— corners!
Yes the English “corner” is about horns too
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  Well, I’m sure there’s peacockery somewhere (bad, bad pun) but “corne” is a common
term in French for angled/folded —wait for it— corners!
Yes the English “corner” is about horns too

Of course, Little Jack Horner sat in the corner ...
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  You’ll note that on that page, keffiyeh is spelled keffiyah.
(While the wiktionary lists kaffiyah, kufiya, and kufiyah as alternative spellings,
but not keffiyah.)

Spellings and especially accents are a real pain.

My claim to fame is that I managed to get "Palantir" added to "Palantír".

 
Part No: 54821pb02  Name: Ball, Bionicle Zamor Sphere with Marbled Trans-Yellow Pattern (Palantír, Palantir)
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54821pb02 Ball, Bionicle Zamor Sphere with Marbled Trans-Yellow Pattern (Palantír, Palantir)
Parts: Ball

Not only didn't I know there was an accent on the i, as an English speaker/writer
I haven't a clue how to add an accent anyway so would never have been able
to search for it.

I tried similar for Joachim Low, Mesut Ozil, and so on, but they were rejected.

For some reason, Jérôme (Jerome) Boateng is allowed as a minifigure name only,
but as a set he is just Jérôme Boateng. The one that is a pain is André Schürrle,
as he has an accent in both names so cannot be searched unless you can enter
accents or cut and paste his name. Quicker to just search for "DFB" instead.

 
Set No: coldfb  Name: Jérôme Boateng, Deutscher Fussball-Bund / DFB (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
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coldfb-3 (Inv) Jérôme Boateng, Deutscher Fussball-Bund / DFB (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
2 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2016
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Deutscher Fussball-Bund / DFB

 
Minifig No: dfb003  Name: Jérôme Boateng, Deutscher Fussball-Bund / DFB (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
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dfb003 (Inv) Jérôme Boateng, Deutscher Fussball-Bund / DFB (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Deutscher Fussball-Bund / DFB
 Author: velocity.rex View Messages Posted By velocity.rex
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In Catalog, bje writes:
  You want to try and remember bicorne - usually I have to search through pirates
minifigs to get that %^^$%@ name. You might want to bookmark this page. It at
least gives the starting point names of some hat/headdress styles with images,
since I can never remember any of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat

LOL, I feel ya! Similar to my newly acquired "Kef*", I've remembered to type
"bi*" or "tri*" when looking for a pirate hat.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Catalog, velocity.rex writes:
  I get a little annoyed every time I encounter this piece.
 
Part No: 88287  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
* 
88287 Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

It's always the same cycle, I search "turban" because it's very similar
to a turban.
and all that pops up are these;
 
Part No: 40235  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
* 
40235 Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
&
 
Part No: 18822  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
* 
18822 Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

So then I remember that the piece I'm looking for is on a few of the Prince
of Persia minifigs so I go to catalog, minifigs, prince of persia, and then scroll
until I find one with the matching headgear, and then drill down into it's
inventory to find that it's called a "Keffiyeh"

to which my response is, "oh, well, I'll probably never remember that..."

I wish the description was "Headgear Headdress Cloth Wrap Keffiyeh (Turban)"
even if it's not technically a turban. It would help me find it faster in
the future.

At any rate, taking the time to type this all out should help me remember in
the future and I discovered that one only has to type "kef*" in the headgear
search and this pops up so I should be able to remember those 3 letters at least
going forward.

Took me awhile to remember "kepi" for this part too, but I remembered eventually.
 
Part No: 30135  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
* 
30135 Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

You can request a change, to add the word turban to it. https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=P

For example, Katana was added to this one:
 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

Fortunately, the more basic "sword" was also kept!
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, velocity.rex writes:
  I get a little annoyed every time I encounter this piece.
 
Part No: 88287  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
* 
88287 Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

It's always the same cycle, I search "turban" because it's very similar
to a turban.
and all that pops up are these;
 
Part No: 40235  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
* 
40235 Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
&
 
Part No: 18822  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
* 
18822 Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

So then I remember that the piece I'm looking for is on a few of the Prince
of Persia minifigs so I go to catalog, minifigs, prince of persia, and then scroll
until I find one with the matching headgear, and then drill down into it's
inventory to find that it's called a "Keffiyeh"

to which my response is, "oh, well, I'll probably never remember that..."

I wish the description was "Headgear Headdress Cloth Wrap Keffiyeh (Turban)"
even if it's not technically a turban. It would help me find it faster in
the future.

At any rate, taking the time to type this all out should help me remember in
the future and I discovered that one only has to type "kef*" in the headgear
search and this pops up so I should be able to remember those 3 letters at least
going forward.

Took me awhile to remember "kepi" for this part too, but I remembered eventually.
 
Part No: 30135  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
* 
30135 Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

You can request a change, to add the word turban to it. https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=P

For example, Katana was added to this one:
 
Part No: 30173b  Name: Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
* 
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir/Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt
Parts: Minifigure, Weapon

Fortunately, the more basic "sword" was also kept!

Thanks for posting that, there are a vast amount of heads in the 2010 era that
are really poorly named and I was just too lazy to look for this request. Hopefully
I will get to submitting some.
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In Catalog, velocity.rex writes:
  I get a little annoyed every time I encounter this piece.
 
Part No: 88287  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
* 
88287 Minifigure, Headgear Headdress Desert Head Wrap Keffiyeh
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

It's always the same cycle, I search "turban" because it's very similar
to a turban.
and all that pops up are these;
 
Part No: 40235  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
* 
40235 Minifigure, Headgear Turban with Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
&
 
Part No: 18822  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
* 
18822 Minifigure, Headgear Turban without Hole
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

So then I remember that the piece I'm looking for is on a few of the Prince
of Persia minifigs so I go to catalog, minifigs, prince of persia, and then scroll
until I find one with the matching headgear, and then drill down into it's
inventory to find that it's called a "Keffiyeh"

to which my response is, "oh, well, I'll probably never remember that..."

I wish the description was "Headgear Headdress Cloth Wrap Keffiyeh (Turban)"
even if it's not technically a turban. It would help me find it faster in
the future.

At any rate, taking the time to type this all out should help me remember in
the future and I discovered that one only has to type "kef*" in the headgear
search and this pops up so I should be able to remember those 3 letters at least
going forward.

Took me awhile to remember "kepi" for this part too, but I remembered eventually.
 
Part No: 30135  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
* 
30135 Minifigure, Headgear Cavalry Cap (Kepi)
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear

I requested during this thread to have the piece changed to its current name,
removing a word that didn't belong and adding some what will hopefully make
it more searchable. I would oppose adding the word "turban" to it. It isn't
a turban or even sort of a turban.

One of my first catalog requests several years ago was to change
 
Part No: 30154  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Sextant / Quadrant
* 
30154 Minifigure, Utensil Sextant / Quadrant
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
from
a sextant, which it isn't, to a quadrant. The catmin at the time compromised
by adding both words. I understand why it was done. Sextant IS a much better
known term and people are generally unaware of the difference, but it has always
stuck in my mind that it is too bad we need to have wrong words so that people
will find things in wrong searches.