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| | | Author: | Hygrotus  | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 15:54 | | Subject: | What is the difference? | | Viewed: | 164 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I never thought that I will have problem with some parts. 
Can somebody show me the difference between:
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I'm looking at the renders of these two parts in yellow and I don't see
any difference.
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 17:13 | | Subject: | Re: What is the difference? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | I never thought that I will have problem with some parts.
Can somebody show me the difference between:
and
I'm looking at the renders of these two parts in yellow and I don't see
any difference.
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I looked at the two BL pics (official Lego renders?): I believe there’s a difference
around the stud hole (red circles) and, maybe at the top of the fender (orange
circles).
BUT 93587 at on top of 38224 on my comparison pic, so it’s the opposite of the
description (93587 is rounder).
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 17:19 | | Subject: | Re: What is the difference? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | I never thought that I will have problem with some parts.
Can somebody show me the difference between:
and
I'm looking at the renders of these two parts in yellow and I don't see
any difference.
|
I looked at the two BL pics (official Lego renders?): I believe there’s a difference
around the stud hole (red circles) and, maybe at the top of the fender (orange
circles).
BUT 93587 at on top of 38224 on my comparison pic, so it’s the opposite of the
description (93587 is rounder).
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I looked on Brickset, the images are the same but a bit bigger and placed the
same way, so going back and forth from one image to the other is possible and
shows the same differences PLUS 38224 seems a bit higher (the bottom of the parts
are at the same place but the studs aren’t).
That might help you find the differences on the real parts, if they exist because
renders….
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 18:16 | | Subject: | Re: What is the difference? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | I never thought that I will have problem with some parts.
Can somebody show me the difference between:
and
I'm looking at the renders of these two parts in yellow and I don't see
any difference.
|
I looked at the two BL pics (official Lego renders?): I believe there’s a difference
around the stud hole (red circles) and, maybe at the top of the fender (orange
circles).
BUT 93587 at on top of 38224 on my comparison pic, so it’s the opposite of the
description (93587 is rounder).
|
I looked on Brickset, the images are the same but a bit bigger and placed the
same way, so going back and forth from one image to the other is possible and
shows the same differences PLUS 38224 seems a bit higher (the bottom of the parts
are at the same place but the studs aren’t).
That might help you find the differences on the real parts, if they exist because
renders….
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Thanks for that
My doubts came because of this set
instruction parts list shows PCC 6184858 so part 93587 would be, but LEGO internet
parts list shows part 38224 being in this set.
So something is not quite right in inventories then
https://brickset.com/parts/design-93587
it is design from 2012 and it is shown in official LEGO inventories only in one
set in one color
in black
https://brickset.com/parts/design-38224
2018 design in all three sets from 2018 should be
in yellow
in red
in black
In our system set from 2018 - 70921 is inventoried with 93587
There is 6 years gap between these parts.
When you checking PCC is getting more interesting
93587 - PCC for black 4656765 given by both instruction for set 4438 and LEGO
internet inventory https://brickset.com/parts/design-93587
and here is everything OK
but
38224
In LEGO internet inventories are given these PCC
yellow - 6223495 in set 41456
red - 6223499 in set 70921
black - 6223500 in set 41195
in our system we have only these for black and yellow enetered
but in instructions for two of these 2018 sets PCC are completely different:
yellow - 6184858 in set 41456
red - 6186057 in set 70921
and they are currently entered under "older variant" 93587
I couldn't find sources for these PCC:
6188936 black 93587
4613118 red 93587
So one set from 2018 have "new variant" 38224 in inventory, PCC in instruction
and LEGO internet parts list is the same - 41195
One set from 2018 have in instruction different PCC than PCC in LEGO internet
parts list and have "old variant" in invetory - 70921
Third one 41456 is currently under checking old one or new one variant. PCC diffres
in instruction and LEGO internet parts list
Maybe also PCCs are wrongly applied here?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 18:20 | | Subject: | Re: What is the difference? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | I never thought that I will have problem with some parts.
Can somebody show me the difference between:
and
I'm looking at the renders of these two parts in yellow and I don't see
any difference.
|
I looked at the two BL pics (official Lego renders?): I believe there’s a difference
around the stud hole (red circles) and, maybe at the top of the fender (orange
circles).
BUT 93587 at on top of 38224 on my comparison pic, so it’s the opposite of the
description (93587 is rounder).
|
I looked on Brickset, the images are the same but a bit bigger and placed the
same way, so going back and forth from one image to the other is possible and
shows the same differences PLUS 38224 seems a bit higher (the bottom of the parts
are at the same place but the studs aren’t).
That might help you find the differences on the real parts, if they exist because
renders….
|
Thanks for that
My doubts came because of this set
instruction parts list shows PCC 6184858 so part 93587 would be, but LEGO internet
parts list shows part 38224 being in this set.
So something is not quite right in inventories then
https://brickset.com/parts/design-93587
it is design from 2012 and it is shown in official LEGO inventories only in one
set in one color
in black
https://brickset.com/parts/design-38224
2018 design in all three sets from 2018 should be
in yellow
in red
in black
In our system set from 2018 - 70921 is inventoried with 93587
There is 6 years gap between these parts.
When you checking PCC is getting more interesting
93587 - PCC for black 4656765 given by both instruction for set 4438 and LEGO
internet inventory https://brickset.com/parts/design-93587
and here is everything OK
but
38224
In LEGO internet inventories are given these PCC
yellow - 6223495 in set 41456
red - 6223499 in set 70921
black - 6223500 in set 41195
in our system we have only these for black and yellow enetered
but in instructions for two of these 2018 sets PCC are completely different:
yellow - 6184858 in set 41456
red - 6186057 in set 70921
and they are currently entered under "older variant" 93587
I couldn't find sources for these PCC:
6188936 black 93587
4613118 red 93587
So one set from 2018 have "new variant" 38224 in inventory, PCC in instruction
and LEGO internet parts list is the same - 41195
One set from 2018 have in instruction different PCC than PCC in LEGO internet
parts list and have "old variant" in invetory - 70921
Third one 41456 is currently under checking old one or new one variant. PCC diffres
in instruction and LEGO internet parts list
Maybe also PCCs are wrongly applied here?
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P.S. So also renders are probably messed too then if 9387 came only in black
Is there 93587 in sand blue exists?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2018 19:20 | | Subject: | Re: What is the difference? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | [… A very fine mess indeed …]
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And… that’s why admins are paid the big bucks and, my not having either of the
parts, why I can now go to sleep with a clear conscience 
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| | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Dec 9, 2018 14:27 | | Subject: | Re: What is the difference? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | I never thought that I will have problem with some parts.
Can somebody show me the difference between:
and
I'm looking at the renders of these two parts in yellow and I don't see
any difference.
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They differ...
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